I work in CT, about two hours from both NY and Boston. I'm on the
lower floor and get mediocre AM/FM reception in my office from my run
of the mill boom box on my desk. I was looking for a replacement
radio and in the course of doing a search online found listings for WB
radios. The idea of being able to receive not only the CBC news
(being an refugee Canadian) but also getting the BBC and other news
sources intrigued me. That of course left me with more questions than
answers.
What I'm looking for is a decent radio I can keep in my office. I
don't travel much so it probably won't move from its spot on my desk.
I'd like to keep the price below $200 if possible. I'm not sure what I
can expect to hear. Might I be able to pull in stations from Europe
with a radio in that price range or will I be limited to those that
are getting some form of enhanced reception on the eastern US
seaboard? Since I'll be at work I won't be spending much time
fiddling with dials to pull in too many really esoteric stations, but
getting news directly from the Middle East or Japan on my desktop
would be amazing.
From the research I've done I looked at the Sony 2010 (a used one,
although most of the ones on Ebay appear to be pretty old models, very
low serial numbers). I also saw good reviews for the Grundig YB
400PE, which I can pick up new for less than the used 2010. Any other
suggestions? Also, if reception turned out to be poor, would I most
likely have to run some sort of wire attenna along my wall to my
window for better reception?
Thanks in advance for any information. If I get responses fast enough
maybe I can sneak this in as a late Christmas request. heh heh...
jwilliam wrote:
>
> I feel like apologizing right off the bat since I know this question
> must be asked regularly in this group. I've searched the older posts
> but still had questions.
Well, I'm not the most knowledgeable person in this group, but I may
be able to offer some help.
>
> I work in CT, about two hours from both NY and Boston. I'm on the
> lower floor and get mediocre AM/FM reception in my office from my run
> of the mill boom box on my desk.
The mediocre AM/FM respetion is almost certainly due to the fact
that you are in a steel frame building - no? That murders radio
reception sometimes (most of the time, in fact).
> I was looking for a replacement
> radio and in the course of doing a search online found listings for WB
> radios. The idea of being able to receive not only the CBC news
> (being an refugee Canadian) but also getting the BBC and other news
> sources intrigued me. That of course left me with more questions than
> answers.
The BBC would be no problem, if the type of radio you were looking
for was in your own home. CBC news is tougher - none of the few
Canadian SW outlets are terribly strong. Fine sometimes, weak or almost
nonexistent others. And I'm in a wood frame building in Michigan with a
longwire antenna hooked to a very sensitive receiver!
> What I'm looking for is a decent radio I can keep in my office. I
> don't travel much so it probably won't move from its spot on my desk.
> I'd like to keep the price below $200 if possible. I'm not sure what I
> can expect to hear. Might I be able to pull in stations from Europe
> with a radio in that price range or will I be limited to those that
> are getting some form of enhanced reception on the eastern US
> seaboard?
With any of the radios you mention below, when reception conditions
are good, you can occasionally do all of the things you hope for. But
again - in that steel frame building . . .
> Since I'll be at work I won't be spending much time
> fiddling with dials to pull in too many really esoteric stations, but
> getting news directly from the Middle East or Japan on my desktop
> would be amazing.
See above comment.
> From the research I've done I looked at the Sony 2010 (a used one,
> although most of the ones on Ebay appear to be pretty old models, very
> low serial numbers). I also saw good reviews for the Grundig YB
> 400PE, which I can pick up new for less than the used 2010.
Both are good radios in your price range, and might well give you the
results you are looking for on a whip antenna *when you are at home*.
But in a steel frame building, I doubt it.
Remember, others here may have more hopeful info for you - keep
checking this thread. And god luck to you, jwilliam.
Tony
I think you should consider this radio:
http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.php?productid=177
Good luck, B e
It doesn't cover shortwave.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
David wrote:
> If you have a South facing window you may want to consider an XM
> boombox. Flawless reception, including the BBC World Service 24/7.
Not shortwave... not even close.
Interesting that Tivoli has done a radio with digital tuning though.
I like the vernier dial on my Tivoli PAL, but unfortunately, the IF filters are wide enough that if you have a strong signal on each side of the one you want, the radio skips from one strong signal to the next. Its' vernier is more of a look and feel
thing than a useful feature.
The audio is beautiful, but it's not a radio I'd use for challenging signals.
I've got experience with radios in office buildings, so I'll be sending a reply about suitable radios and antennas in a couple hours.
Thanks for your reply. Actually, I may have overstated the poor
quality of AM/FM reception in my office. I can get WFAN pretty
clearly, ESPN comes in faint and with static, which probably speaks
more to the relative strength of their signal than to any issues with
reception. I've also added the Sony 7600GR to my list of possibilities
after reading some more reviews.
Jon
If you're getting mediocre performance in your office from a boom box
at this time, you'll probably be getting the same type reception even
from an upscale receiver. The problem is you need to get the antenna
outside of the building in order for either radio to receive better.
Having said that -- it's still fun (and necessary) to try. I've tried
several radios in my office/building enviroment and settled on the Sony
7600GR. I especially like the 7600GR because it has sync detect
capabilities and I've found just this alone will bypass 80% of any
whines from office equipments, at least in my enviroment. Understand
though: there is an endless debate as to performance of three
radios....YB400, Sangean 909/DX398, and the 7600GR. All three are great
"portables" -- and it depends on your personal preferences and needs as
to which is the best. Regardless, you WON'T go wrong with any of these
3, including the 7600GR. If you check around (and from other posters on
this board), a 7600GR can be had for about 130 dollars. A GREAT price!
(Normally sells for about 170 dollars or so). It does NOT come with an
AC adaptor. The Sony 2010 is a great radio of course, but in my case,
I've found it a bit large for work use -- just my opinion.
As for receiving the CBC and shortwave in general in an office
enviroment during day hours; well maybe not much luck, but there are
many foreign relays via Canadian transmitters that you should have no
problem receiving in an office. I'm in northern Ohio and they come in
like local at work with the whip simply extended. (I work nights by the
way). Right now, while typing this at home, I'm listening to Radio
Austria on 13675 which is relayed through Canada. You "should" be able
to pick this station up during the day hours while at work. As for
Canadian broadcasts, you still have Radio Canada Internationl, and
there's also a neat little frequency during the day hours, 6.070 that
is a simulcast of CFRB and you have a good opportunity of picking that
up during day hours in an office.
Well, too much said already. My recommendation would be to try the Sony
7600GR, especially if you shop around a little and get that 130 dollar
price. A very good deal and you won't be disappointed. Let us know if
you get any SW radio. Good luck!!
You should have similar results with a YB400PE or one of the Degen or
Kaito 1103 radios.
On 17 Dec 2004 08:30:16 -0800, "johndobbs" <johndo...@yahoo.com>
David wrote:
> If a 5" wave ain't short, I don't know what is.
Oh, I'm sure you do!
You get more and more stupid every day, don't you?
dxAce
Michigan
USA
David wrote:
> You could always listen on the internet.
Yeah, that's 'real' radio all right.
Now you just hustle on down the road, toting your portable, 'tard boy.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Hi
I'm also in Connecticut, and I've got some experience with setting up
radios in offices.
The inside of a typical commercial building isn't a good place to find
the signals you're looking for. Masonry walls have rebar, wood frame
office buildings often have foil lined insulation. Apparently, when
they design these buildings, suitability for radio listening isn't high
on the list.
If you can't get decent MW reception with a good portable, don't expect
much shortwave reception either, unless you do something about an antenna.
The antenna is at least 90% of the answer.
For lower frequencies, something like a Quantum Loop is probably your
best bet for a desk top antenna. Other companies have made similar
products over the years. Unless you get very lucky, they are likely to
put you over budget.
For an in the window antenna you can get very thin coax if you want to
hide the wire, or you could choose coax that looks like a network cable
if you'd rather try to have it "blend in". Hook it up to a big loop of
wire that goes around the perimeter of the window. The wire for the
loop can be anything from thin magnet wire to the foil tape they use for
burglar alarms.
If you can put up an antenna outside, you can couple your radio to it
with a capacitive link so you don't need to drill a hole in the wall.
It's as simple as a square of foil hooked up to your coax on one side of
the window, and another hooked up to your antenna lined up on the other
side of the glass.
For the radio, I use an old Standard STR-428. You're not likely to find
one for sale, but it's a 1970's vintage commercial marine radio. Not a
lot of dials or controls, but it's quite sensitive and it's the sort of
thing clients will ask about.
The difference between a good inexpensive portable and a high end
tabletop radio isn't likely to be nearly as significant for your office
as the difference between a whip antenna on your desk and an antenna
that's away from the metal shielding that seems to be hidden in the
walls of just about every commercial building.
Popular portables worth looking at include the Degen 1103, the Grundig
YB400 and the Sony 7600gr.
Good luck.
> I think you should consider this radio:
>
> http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.php?productid=177
Looks like a sweet piece of design, but it ain't shortwave.
--
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Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who voted for George W. Bush.
The more you know, the less likely you were to vote for Bush.
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For the facts on Iraq, see <http://optruth.org>.
The Tivoli "Song Book" sounds (reads) like a nice Travel Radio.
SONG-BOOK => http://www.tivoliaudio.com/pdf/SBook-manual-web.pdf
However, it has good 'quality' FM Radio Reception Listening Features
with "Un-Mentioned" AM Radio reception features.
Most of these so called 'quality' Music Listener's Radios:
- Bose Wave
- Cambridge Sound Works
- Tivoli
all have 'fair' to 'good' FM Tuners;
but have 'very poor' to 'poor' AM Tuners.
Most do NOT have 'separate' External Antenna Inputs for
an AM {External} Antenna and an FM {External} Antenna.
IMHO - For a 'good' Office Radio in a Building that has
low signal levels and High RFI/EMF Noise Levels:
The Radio needs 'very good' AM & FM Tuners and separate
External AM & FM Antenna Inputs and two Antennas;
- one designed for FM (Very High Frequency) Radio Reception
- the other designed for AM {Medium Wave} Radio Reception
+ READ - Three Different Bands AM/FM/SW and Three Different Antennas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1038
* On-the-Window Random Wire / Loop Antenna
for 'portable' Shortwave Radios
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/964
* AM/MW DXing : Three Loop Antennas and Three 'portable' Super Radios
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/775
TIP - Consider the Grundig S350 "Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000
+ READ - About - External Antennas for the Grundig S350
"Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1786
* * Dual Tuners & Dual Antennas - Grundig S350
for both AM & FM Radio Reception
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/877
* Around-the-Window Frame Loop Antennas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1682
* Grundig S350 Antenna & Ground for 'reduced' AM/MW Interference
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1173
* Grundig S350 AM/MW Random Wire Antenna Tuner
using a AM/MW Loop Antenna
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1150
* Grundig S350 / Tecsun BCL-2000 and AM/MW Loop Antennas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/505
Check-Out the Grundig S350 "Super Radio" Tecsun BCL-2000
eGroup on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-S350/
NOTE: The CCRadio and CCRadio Plus have a 'very poor'
External Antenna Input. For a Radio with it's 'claimed' "High
Performance" and very HIGH PRICE - C Crane Co. {Sangean}
should have designed in two separate External Antenna Inputs
that actually worked [.]
CCRADIO-eGROUP => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CCRadio/
.
.
All are WELCOME at the Shortwave Listener (SWL) "Antenna Ashram"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/502
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night . . .
You Can Hear Forever and Beyond, The BEYOND !
[ With the a SWL Antenna of your own making. ]
.
.
Three 'different' Radio Bands and two to three 'different' Antennas
1. SW - For 'improved' Shortwave {SW} High Frequency Radio
Reception try a simple Random Wire Antenna .
OR - Try an On-the-Window Shortwave Antenna that is 'taped' to an
outside looking Window. Keep the Antenna Wire element about
3"-6" away from the Frame of the Window.
READ - Three Different Bands AM/FM/SW and Three Different Antennas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1038
* On-the-Window Random Wire / Loop Antenna
for 'portable' Shortwave Radios
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/964
The Sony AN-LP1 Shortwave Antenna
and the Crane {Justice} AM/MW Antenna ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/849
* Try a Compact 'portable' Shortwave Reel {Roll-Up} Antenna
for 'improved' Reception and Mobility
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1687
* Consider the Shielded & Magnetic Loop Antennas
for Shortwave Reception
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1539
* Two Vertical "Drop" Antennas for Tall Building Dwellers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1535
* Thru the Window Antennas for Shortwave and Medium Wave
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/653
2. FM - For 'improved' FM Radio Reception try a simple FM Folded
Dipole
Antenna that is 'taped' to an outside looking Window. Keep the
Dipole about 3"-6" away from the Frame of the Window. Or try
placing the Dipole on the Window at a Diagonal Corner-to-Corner.
+ READ - FM Antenna Ideas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1053
* Out of Sight - Out of Mind - The [Hidden] FM Antenna
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/499
* External FM Antenna "Hook-Ups" for most 'portable' AM/FM/SW Radios
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/544
* Improved FM Reception with 'portable' Radios
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/101
3. AM - For 'improved' AM Radio Reception try a simple AM/MW Loop
Antenna about 4-8 Turns that is 'taped' to an outside looking
Window. Use very thin #30 AWG Magnet Wire that is placed
on the Window about 3"-6" away from the Frame of the Window;
with about 1/2" between the individual Loops.
+ READ - AM/MW Reception requires the 'right' AM/MW Radio
and matching AM/MW Antenna
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1743
* GE Superadio - Think "Larger" AM/MW Loop Antenna {Two Plus Feet}
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1512
* "On-the-Wall" Loop Antenna and more . . .
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1459
* AM/MW Loop Antennas: Your best 'connection' may be NO Connection
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1174
* Passive and Active AM/MW Loop Antennas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1134
* "Long LoopStick Antenna"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/1043
On 17 Dec 2004 16:54:20 -0800, "RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net>
wrote:
David wrote:
> This is why Satellite Radio is the wave of the future.
Guess you better grab that board, and go 'hang ten' on that wave, 'tard boy.
Then you can leave the shortwave to the big boys.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
CUHULIN,
Simpler is to place a Near-the-Window-Radio 'next' to a window
in the Office Building.
Turn the Radio to the Station that you want to Listen to.
Connect an FM Re-Broadcast Transmitter to the Window Radio.
Set an "In-the-Office-Radio" on your Desk {in your Office}
and 'turn' it to the FM Re-Broadcaster Frequency.
Wah La - Your have Clean Clear Sound be it Music or Talk :o)
{ Wah La = Voila - I don't 'do' French. }
PS: Share the Sounds with Others - Invite them to Turn-In :o)
.
what could be more simple - not ~ RHF
.
.
On 18 Dec 2004 19:12:54 -0800, "RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net>
wrote:
http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/LastDaysEndTimes/page2.html
Where Three or More are Gathered . . .
Turn the Radio On ! and Praise The Lord - Amen
.
pal ~ RHF
.
.
http://www.cambridgesoundworks.com/store/category.cgi?category=search&item=c1pdxmr2
Cambridge SoundWorks - Playdock XM Portable Speaker System
Not much more that an "Add-On" Speaker, Amplifier and Battery
[Enclosure] for an XM Satellite Receiver { But... Is It a Radio ? }
.
~ RHF
.
.
RHF wrote:
It sounds like it's portable, so I'm certain he'll be able to tote it.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
''Most "boomboxes" are junk on a platter. Get a YB400PE Grundig.
Darren''
On 20 Dec 2004 02:35:40 -0800, "RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net>
wrote:
Consider getting the Sony ANLP-1 loop antenna with the 7600GR. Locate
the loop on one of the windows in your office. This should give you
better reception than the whip antenna on the radio. You could use the
loop with other portables too.
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David, so far it looks like the satellite radio business model is still
rather shaky.
XM has over 1,000,000 subscribers -- they're still not profitable.
Sirius is bleeding even more cash and has just over 600,000 subscribers.
They're betting people will subscribe to hear Howard Stern or the NFL, both
of which they have signed for big dollars. Stern may be able to bring some
people in, but the size of his salary will continue to make it tough to
climb out of the red.
The NFL choice doesn't make sense to me -- most people will want to listen
to the slant from their local stations for free. Here in the New Orleans
area, we like to listen to WWL radio while we watch the games on TV, just
for the local flavor. It can be hilarious -- after all, it is the Saints.
The "digital" part is misleading as well. The quality (kbs) is not up to CD
standards at all -- it's more like medium-quality MP3's. Most home-audio
people won't be happy with that, either. This will have to improve, but
250+ kbs streaming audio is already available on the net for free.
-- Stinger
XM=3 million subs
Sirius=1 million subs
(DirecTV has 14 million subs and still loses money, while DiSH has
almost 10 and pays quarterly dividends. Go figure.)
What if you're a Saints fan and not within range of WWL?
The audio quality can be fairly sucky, but not usually.
Where I live, I have a choice between AM hate radio, the Cal State
Northridge too-poor-for-NPR station on FM, weak HF (inless you want to
listen to Japan, Korea or China the shortwave here is very DXer grade
at best), or 220 channels of crystal clear satellite radio.
If you listen to HF Broadcast for the content, Sirius has WRN 24/7.
***lots of good information snipped***
>
>Well, too much said already. My recommendation would be to try the Sony
>7600GR, especially if you shop around a little and get that 130 dollar
>price. A very good deal and you won't be disappointed. Let us know if
>you get any SW radio. Good luck!!
I did end up buying the 7600GR. Purchased it online today from
JR.com. I imagine after I try it out I'll be asking for information
on antennas, but in the meantime I'm anxious for it to come in.
(In case I sent my original reply to your private email; or I replied
and I sent the message to who knows where; or I'm starting to have
senior moments and only thought I replied: let me try again.....)
Congrats on your new radio! After it arrives, please share with us some
of your thoughts and likes/dislikes about the radio. I hope it improves
radio reception at your office. By the way, just as a reminder, as I'm
sure you're already aware of this, but...you do know that when
receiving MW signals (AM BCB), you need to swivel the radio one way or
another to align the internal loopstick with the broadcasting
station(?) I only mention this because you had said you used a boombox
in your office, and I just didn't know if you were able to swivel the
boombox (which is normally a large radio in an office enviroment) for
improved reception. It's one of the advantages of using a smaller
travel radio like a 7600GR or YB400 -- to swivel and/or position as
needed. Anyways...let us know how it goes, and have fun!
heh, Actually I have swiveled my radio before to get better reception,
not knowing why I did it, simply knowing 'something' happened that
improved the quality of the signal. I'll be sure to post back when it
comes in after I've fiddled with it some.
Happy New Year to all.
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Donal