K1MAN/IARN/AARA Prepare For War With FCC and ARRL
chann...@juno.com
FCC ISSUES A $21, 000 NOTICE OF APPARENT LIABILITY AGAINST K1MAN
In a "NAL" released 7 June 2005, the FCC has opened a pandora's box,
according to Glenn Baxter, Manager of IARN, the International Amateur
Radio Network, and AARA, the American Amateur Radio Association.
Mr. Baxter was recognized by the State of Maine legislature on March
13, 1991 and named as a Vermont Academy Distinguished Alumnus on
October 1, 1993 for international amateur radio communications work
with his IARN.
Mr. Baxter says that this whole charade is being driven by petty ham
jealousy and the blatent incompetence of ARRL in failing over the years
to come even close to the work of IARN in emergency communications
work.
Mr. Baxter welcomes these court actions since he has been trying to
"face off" with the Commission for over 15 years. "Many heads are
finally going to roll," acording to Baxter. K1MAN's response is
printed below together with the full text of the NAL.
In the matter of
Glenn A. Baxter, P.E.
Registered Professional Engineer
Herb
tells me a certain manager is, putting it mildly, furious that the
K1MAN NAL was issued. Look for one or more very quiet
early retirements and/or resignations.
<chann...@juno.com> wrote in message
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policy-ham
Glenn A. Baxter, P.E., K1MAM, (or as his parter and buddy Chris
Murdoch, WA1HOD, calls him - K1MAN-kind) has a long long history with
the FCC. For those of you just joining the debate, here is some
information that might help explain why so many hams are eager to sign
the Petition to Deny License Renewal to K1MAN at www.no2k1man.com
K1MAN, by his own actions, has made himself a very public figure. As a
public figure, he's been widely discussed by his fellow hams here, on
QRZ, and elsewhere on the internet, on amateur radio, in court rooms,
discussed by his employers, his neighbors, discussed by the FCC, at
CBS, and by the Department of Justice.
In reviewing the history of K1MAN and his qualifications to remain a
Commission licensee, we can go back many years, to May of 1986, when he
sued the advertising manager of QST and another employee of ARRL for
conspiring to damage his business reputation.
QST had received a complaint that showed that Baxter's Collins Repair
and Alignment Service had significantly overcharged a customer beyond
an amount they had previously agreed upon.
The advertising manager at the time wrote Baxter on QST letterhead,
saying, "When your service charges escalate from $75 to $225 and then
to $275 we become very much concerned about the manner in which you are
treating our members. You will recall that I discussed with you ... the
highly suspect illegal spending of deposits which members were sending
to you... unless you can convince me that your operation exists in the
best interests of our members, we shall be unable to carry further
advertising from you."
This exchange and the subsequent lawsuit by Baxter (dismissed) may help
to explain why Baxter has attacked the ARRL and its staff with such
zeal over the years. He says he wants to make IARN an "Alternative to
ARRL" but, discerning readers may recognize another agenda.
Some old timers may recall Baxter's lawsuit against the FCC to maintain
the old AM power output of 1,000 watts. That lawsuit was dismissed
because Baxter failed to exhaust administrative remedies through the
FCC before bringing suit. As the old adage goes, it appears there
really is a drawback to acting as your own attorney.
You may also recall Baxter's 10 million dollar lawsuit against the FCC?
He claimed he was defamed by the alleged suggestion by Riley
Hollingsworth that he was shut down by the FCC. Baxter reported at the
time that he had merely taken a break to teach high school. This case
was also dismissed because Baxter failed to exhaust his administrative
remedies before bringing suit. Baxter has threatened to sue Riley
personally, as well as other hams, including this writer. A threat that
has yet to materialize.
On January 23, 2003, Walter Cronkite's attorney wrote to Baxter asking
him to stop using Walter's voice ID over K1MAN's bulletin. "Mr.
Cronkite previously requested that you refrain from any further use of
the audiotape, or from any suggestion that he endorses your station,
Association, or other operations." He (Ronald S. Konecky) went on to
call Baxter's actions "a violation of Mr. Cronkite's rights, totally
improper, and a cause of serious damage to his name and reputation."
Baxter's actions, have not endeared him to CBS, The Maine Department of
Justice, Walter Cronkite, the FCC, or the countless hams who have
complained about Baxter's relentless interference to their ongoing
communications.
When Baxter began to send out his self-styled notices of Felony
Affidavit Complaints to those he perceived as interfering with his
bulletin service, it really hit the fan.
On January 5th, 1995, Jay McCloskey, the U.S. Attorney at the Maine
Department of Justice wrote to Baxter, telling him, "It is against the
law to write and mail this type of threatening communication,
especially when it has no basis in fact. If you continue sending this
type of letter, you may be subject to Federal criminal charges for
misrepresentation and for using the mails to make threats. You may also
jeopardize your amateur radio license; the FCC can use evidence of this
type of conduct to demonstrate that you no longer meet the character
requirements for a license."
Baxter responded to this letter on January 9, 1995 by writing to the
Assistant US Attorney, stating, "Your blatant and malicious abuse of
the power vested in you by the citizens of the United States is
despicable, unethical, criminal and unprofessional." Baxter went on to
demand a retraction, which, of course, he never received.
Baxter has hardly endeared himself politically to the members of the
Maine Department of Justice, but the lack of political goodwill doesn't
stop there. On January 23, 1995, FCC Counsel John Greenspan wrote to
Baxter regarding an insulting letter he wrote to the Assistant US
Attorney, "Your reply suggests to me that you may very well lack the
character qualifications to be an FCC licensee. You certainly lack the
maturity, but that is, unfortunately, not grounds for revocation. If it
is ultimately determined that you have made improper threats, that
determination could result in a hearing to examine your fitness to
remain an FCC license and/or criminal prosecution."
John Greenspan went on to add, "Although you have not used lawyers in
the past, I suggest that you consult with an attorney knowledgeable in
FCC procedures about your alleged conduct. To provide some incentive
for you to do this, let me say that if you wish to speak with me for
any reason, it must be through an attorney. I will not accept any calls
or letters from you personally."
Not exactly a love letter is it?
Over the past 5 years Baxter has been contacted by the FCC on numerous
occasions and his station has been inspected by the FCC. Baxter says he
has received FOUR (4) NAL's to date. The FCC has writtent to him about
allegations of broadcasting, deliberate interference, failure to
identify, poor signal quality, erratic starting and stopping times,
recording conversations without permission, and the list goes on...
Even Baxter's neighbors are not immune from his tendency toward trying
to use the courts to settle what some might consider silly disputes
that would be better handled by a personal phone call. More often than
not, Baxter has lost in the courts due to procedural defects in his
lawsuits. He is not, contrary to a popular myth, fabulously wealthy, or
a lawyer.
According to staff at the IRS, his IARN charity did not even make
enough money to require that he file taxes last year. An underfunded
organization like IARN that engages in irresponsible activities like
calling for jump teams to visit disaster areas who don't even request
assistance, does not seem to me, to be an alternative to the ARRL,
except perhaps in the mind of Mr. Baxter.
On May 4, 1983, Baxter sued a neighbor of his, Camp Runoia, a camp for
little girls, because they stacked cordwood on the side of the road.
The case was dismissed. The camp had removed the wood prior to the case
being heard.
Baxter's other neighbors have apparently also had reason for concern
regarding his allegedly threatening behavior. According to reports
gleaned from court records in December of 2003, Baxter was dismissed
from his job (fired) as station engineer for FM 95.3 in Augusta, Maine.
When he applied for unemployment compensation, the attorney for the
station advised his clients not to attend the unemployment hearing.
"Because Mr. Baxter has demonstrated offensive behavior similar to that
which prompted his termination, I have advised the Bouchards not to
attend Monday's hearing. I indicated to you in our conversation that
the Bouchards' fear for their safety as a result of Mr. Baxter's
threatening behavior. Mr. Bouchard terminated Mr. Baxter from
employment when Mr. Baxter repeatedly acted in a threatening manner to
his supervisor and to other employess at the job site.Mr. Baxter
demonstrated his inability to act responsibly and to exert self-contol
at the last hearing."
The attorney (Robert J. Stolt of Lipman, Katz & McKee) goes on to say,
"Payments of benefits to Mr. Baxter is a lesser evil than someone being
harmed by him."
Baxter sued regarding these comments, but the court held that the
comments made by the attorney were completely privileged in nature and
were therefore protected by law.
Ironically, Baxter's objections have ensured that they will reside in
the annals of the Maine courts in perpetuity, for anyone with the
desire to read them.
For all of these reasons, and the reasons in the present NAL, I will
sign the petition to deny license renewal to K1MAN. I don't believe
K1MAN is capable of engaging in good Amatuer practice, as we are all
compelled by law to do.
Although I hold no malice toward Mr. Baxter personally, and I believe
him when he says he suffers from mental illness, I believe that Mr.
Baxter has already amply proven that he does not deserve to remain a
Commision licensee.
K1MAN has pending enforcement issues. K1MAN has already been warned by
the FCC that he may be referred to the ALJ due to ongoing enforcement
issues.
K1MAN's renewal anniversary is on October 17th of this year. Here is an
excerpt from an FCC letter to K1MAN dated January 29, 2002.
"The rules of the Amateur Service are straightforward and easy to
understand. To the extent that you do not comply with Commission rules
regarding the Amateur Radio Service, then to that extent enforcement
action will be taken against your licenses. That enforcement action may
include revocation of your station license, suspension of your operator
license, a modification proceeding to restrict your operating
privileges, or monetary forfeiture.
It is also important for you to understand that if these matters are
not resolved, your operator/primary station licenses will not be
routinely renewed; but instead will be designated for hearing before an
Administrative Law Judge. In such a proceeding, you would have the
burden of proof to show that your licenses should be renewed."
It's time for Baxter and all of his associates to stand before a Judge.
Lloyd
"policy-ham" <hamo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Pure bullshit! Grow up and get a life!
and stop being obsessed with another's ham's life.
N7ZZT - Eric Oyen
gee, sounds like another one looking to get probed by the system for
unprofessional behavior on (and off) the air......
I hate to say this Lloyd, but K1MAN earned whatever actions is being taken
against him. in fact, he demanded this action by his very threats.
in any case, I think I will sign that petition myself, just because Mr.
baxter's actions draw negative attention to the service as a whole.
--
DE N7ZZT
Eric Oyen
Phoenix, Arizona
e-mail: n7zzt(at)hotmail(dot)com
the difference between intelligence and stupidity is that intelligence
has its limits.
an_old_friend
cut para
> K1MAN, by his own actions, has made himself a very public figure. As a
> public figure, he's been widely discussed by his fellow hams here, on
> QRZ, and elsewhere on the internet, on amateur radio, in court rooms,
> discussed by his employers, his neighbors, discussed by the FCC, at
> CBS, and by the Department of Justice.
So what? John Kerry and GW Bush are public figures each throughly hated
in certian circles (although rarely the same circles)
>
> In reviewing the history of K1MAN and his qualifications to remain a
> Commission licensee, we can go back many years, to May of 1986, when he
> sued the advertising manager of QST and another employee of ARRL for
> conspiring to damage his business reputation.
Ok so?
>
> QST had received a complaint that showed that Baxter's Collins Repair
> and Alignment Service had significantly overcharged a customer beyond
> an amount they had previously agreed upon.
>
> The advertising manager at the time wrote Baxter on QST letterhead,
> saying, "When your service charges escalate from $75 to $225 and then
> to $275 we become very much concerned about the manner in which you are
> treating our members. You will recall that I discussed with you ... the
> highly suspect illegal spending of deposits which members were sending
> to you... unless you can convince me that your operation exists in the
> best interests of our members, we shall be unable to carry further
> advertising from you."
>
> This exchange and the subsequent lawsuit by Baxter (dismissed) may help
> to explain why Baxter has attacked the ARRL and its staff with such
> zeal over the years. He says he wants to make IARN an "Alternative to
> ARRL" but, discerning readers may recognize another agenda.
Ok so he wants an alterenitve to the ARRL? I would like one myself
>
> Some old timers may recall Baxter's lawsuit against the FCC to maintain
> the old AM power output of 1,000 watts. That lawsuit was dismissed
> because Baxter failed to exhaust administrative remedies through the
> FCC before bringing suit. As the old adage goes, it appears there
> really is a drawback to acting as your own attorney.
realy? sounds it saved himself some money
>
> You may also recall Baxter's 10 million dollar lawsuit against the FCC?
> He claimed he was defamed by the alleged suggestion by Riley
> Hollingsworth that he was shut down by the FCC. Baxter reported at the
> time that he had merely taken a break to teach high school. This case
> was also dismissed because Baxter failed to exhaust his administrative
> remedies before bringing suit. Baxter has threatened to sue Riley
> personally, as well as other hams, including this writer. A threat that
> has yet to materialize.
>
Lots of threats are made parts of living these days. Indeed can one
even live much of a life without someone threatening you. It does not
seem so.
> On January 23, 2003, Walter Cronkite's attorney wrote to Baxter asking
> him to stop using Walter's voice ID over K1MAN's bulletin. "Mr.
> Cronkite previously requested that you refrain from any further use of
> the audiotape, or from any suggestion that he endorses your station,
> Association, or other operations." He (Ronald S. Konecky) went on to
> call Baxter's actions "a violation of Mr. Cronkite's rights, totally
> improper, and a cause of serious damage to his name and reputation."
Gald to know ham radio still has such High standing in the world
>
> Baxter's actions, have not endeared him to CBS, The Maine Department of
> Justice, Walter Cronkite, the FCC, or the countless hams who have
> complained about Baxter's relentless interference to their ongoing
> communications.
ok does sound like folks don't like him
>
> When Baxter began to send out his self-styled notices of Felony
> Affidavit Complaints to those he perceived as interfering with his
> bulletin service, it really hit the fan.
>
> On January 5th, 1995, Jay McCloskey, the U.S. Attorney at the Maine
> Department of Justice wrote to Baxter, telling him, "It is against the
> law to write and mail this type of threatening communication,
> especially when it has no basis in fact. If you continue sending this
> type of letter, you may be subject to Federal criminal charges for
> misrepresentation and for using the mails to make threats. You may also
> jeopardize your amateur radio license; the FCC can use evidence of this
> type of conduct to demonstrate that you no longer meet the character
> requirements for a license."
the quote is inconsistant it says it is illegeal and then goes on to
say it may be ilegal may jeopardize etc.
>
> Baxter responded to this letter on January 9, 1995 by writing to the
> Assistant US Attorney, stating, "Your blatant and malicious abuse of
> the power vested in you by the citizens of the United States is
> despicable, unethical, criminal and unprofessional." Baxter went on to
> demand a retraction, which, of course, he never received.
Ok not so I agree beyond calling it unprofessional but that is matter
of opinion
>
> Baxter has hardly endeared himself politically to the members of the
> Maine Department of Justice, but the lack of political goodwill doesn't
> stop there. On January 23, 1995, FCC Counsel John Greenspan wrote to
> Baxter regarding an insulting letter he wrote to the Assistant US
> Attorney, "Your reply suggests to me that you may very well lack the
> character qualifications to be an FCC licensee. You certainly lack the
> maturity, but that is, unfortunately, not grounds for revocation. If it
> is ultimately determined that you have made improper threats, that
> determination could result in a hearing to examine your fitness to
> remain an FCC license and/or criminal prosecution."
"If it is determined" then FCC is not saying it was improper (impling
it a better choice for a Lawyer than the letter of McCloskey
>
> John Greenspan went on to add, "Although you have not used lawyers in
> the past, I suggest that you consult with an attorney knowledgeable in
> FCC procedures about your alleged conduct. To provide some incentive
> for you to do this, let me say that if you wish to speak with me for
> any reason, it must be through an attorney. I will not accept any calls
> or letters from you personally."
Given that the FCC Consel has started this contact, I question wether
or not the FCC Consel was in afct violating either the law or the
cannon of legal ethics. People have the right to be there own consel. I
may question Baxter Wisdom in representing himself but not his right
>
> Not exactly a love letter is it?
No your point
>
> Over the past 5 years Baxter has been contacted by the FCC on numerous
> occasions and his station has been inspected by the FCC. Baxter says he
> has received FOUR (4) NAL's to date. The FCC has writtent to him about
> allegations of broadcasting, deliberate interference, failure to
> identify, poor signal quality, erratic starting and stopping times,
> recording conversations without permission, and the list goes on...
and this emans the due procees of law is grinding its way through
>
> Even Baxter's neighbors are not immune from his tendency toward trying
> to use the courts to settle what some might consider silly disputes
> that would be better handled by a personal phone call. More often than
> not, Baxter has lost in the courts due to procedural defects in his
> lawsuits. He is not, contrary to a popular myth, fabulously wealthy, or
> a lawyer.
so?
>
> According to staff at the IRS, his IARN charity did not even make
> enough money to require that he file taxes last year. An underfunded
> organization like IARN that engages in irresponsible activities like
> calling for jump teams to visit disaster areas who don't even request
> assistance, does not seem to me, to be an alternative to the ARRL,
> except perhaps in the mind of Mr. Baxter.
this is at worst statement of principles and plans certainly within his
rights
>
> On May 4, 1983, Baxter sued a neighbor of his, Camp Runoia, a camp for
> little girls, because they stacked cordwood on the side of the road.
> The case was dismissed. The camp had removed the wood prior to the case
> being heard.
Ok your point. he like many americans engages in litagation
>
> Baxter's other neighbors have apparently also had reason for concern
> regarding his allegedly threatening behavior. According to reports
> gleaned from court records in December of 2003, Baxter was dismissed
> from his job (fired) as station engineer for FM 95.3 in Augusta, Maine.
> When he applied for unemployment compensation, the attorney for the
> station advised his clients not to attend the unemployment hearing.
>
> "Because Mr. Baxter has demonstrated offensive behavior similar to that
> which prompted his termination, I have advised the Bouchards not to
> attend Monday's hearing. I indicated to you in our conversation that
> the Bouchards' fear for their safety as a result of Mr. Baxter's
> threatening behavior. Mr. Bouchard terminated Mr. Baxter from
> employment when Mr. Baxter repeatedly acted in a threatening manner to
> his supervisor and to other employess at the job site.Mr. Baxter
> demonstrated his inability to act responsibly and to exert self-contol
> at the last hearing."
>
> The attorney (Robert J. Stolt of Lipman, Katz & McKee) goes on to say,
> "Payments of benefits to Mr. Baxter is a lesser evil than someone being
> harmed by him."
>
> Baxter sued regarding these comments, but the court held that the
> comments made by the attorney were completely privileged in nature and
> were therefore protected by law.
I likely would have sued regardin them myself OTOH I do enough about
the law to undersatnd the result but a better action might have been to
complain to Bar assoication
However I am glad to hear he tried the action of the Attorney were
clearly borish and sometimes it is neccasary to act go down in flames
on principle
>
> Ironically, Baxter's objections have ensured that they will reside in
> the annals of the Maine courts in perpetuity, for anyone with the
> desire to read them.
>
> For all of these reasons, and the reasons in the present NAL, I will
> sign the petition to deny license renewal to K1MAN. I don't believe
> K1MAN is capable of engaging in good Amatuer practice, as we are all
> compelled by law to do.
>
> Although I hold no malice toward Mr. Baxter personally, and I believe
> him when he says he suffers from mental illness, I believe that Mr.
> Baxter has already amply proven that he does not deserve to remain a
> Commision licensee.
>
> K1MAN has pending enforcement issues. K1MAN has already been warned by
> the FCC that he may be referred to the ALJ due to ongoing enforcement
> issues.
he may be refered, meaning it seem he isn't even indicted yet
>
> K1MAN's renewal anniversary is on October 17th of this year. Here is an
> excerpt from an FCC letter to K1MAN dated January 29, 2002.
>
> "The rules of the Amateur Service are straightforward and easy to
> understand. To the extent that you do not comply with Commission rules
> regarding the Amateur Radio Service, then to that extent enforcement
> action will be taken against your licenses. That enforcement action may
> include revocation of your station license, suspension of your operator
> license, a modification proceeding to restrict your operating
> privileges, or monetary forfeiture.
BTW this letter would require that the FCC Conel accept a letter from
Baxter if he chooses to write it
>
> It is also important for you to understand that if these matters are
> not resolved, your operator/primary station licenses will not be
> routinely renewed; but instead will be designated for hearing before an
> Administrative Law Judge. In such a proceeding, you would have the
> burden of proof to show that your licenses should be renewed."
>
> It's time for Baxter and all of his associates to stand before a Judge.
there prehaps you are right, sometimes things are best taken to court
John Smith
You wrote, "So what? John Kerry and GW Bush are public figures each
throughly hated in certian circles (although rarely the same circles)"
Frankly, I'd say it was a "staged fight", with both owned by the same
"promoters."
John
"an_old_friend" <kons...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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N7ZZT - Eric Oyen
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:43:43 -0700, N7ZZT - Eric Oyen <n7...@127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>> Lloyd wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Pure bullshit! Grow up and get a life!
>> > and stop being obsessed with another's ham's life.
>>
>> gee, sounds like another one looking to get probed by the system for
>> unprofessional behavior on (and off) the air......
>>
>> I hate to say this Lloyd, but K1MAN earned whatever actions is being
>> taken against him. in fact, he demanded this action by his very threats.
>
> I hate to say this, Eric, but trying to revoke anyone's license by
> this means is an invitation to anarchy. You have quite a few enemies,
> don't you, Eric?
I see you aren't up on all the facts. its not a revocation, its a petition
to deny a renewal. a revocation requires an entire process to be initiated
(which so far, has been started with the investigation and the notice of
apparent liability). However, I digress, this isn't a revocation.
as for my enemies, well, they have been mitigated or otherwise marginalized
into obscurity (can you say the same?).
>
> Would you feel that they were justified in petitioning the FCC not to
> renew your license? Is there anyone else whose license "we" should
> petition the FCC not to renew? Pretty soon we can all be gathering
> signatures in an attempt to silence our perceived on-the-air enemies.
well, you would have to justify it and show evidence before the fcc why it
should be allowed. in fact, I welcome the challenge from you to attempt to
do so. However, I would suggest you make sure all your I's are dotted and
your T's crossed.
Just to make this point clear, Mr. baxter has violated a fair number of
rules and regs over the years, and even continues to do so given the
current circumstances. can you show anywhere in ham radio (on the air)
where I have done so? didn't think so.
>
> This petition thing is a piss poor idea, invented by those who would
> unwittingly harm amateur radio itself.
and you base this opinion on what facts?
fact:
1. mr baxter has repeatedly and with intent violated part 97 on numerous
occasions
2. he has violated other rules and regulations related to the above
3. he has issued frivolous threats through the mail (some of which is
amateur radio related)
4. his statements in the public record indicate that he has no interest in
helping the service, just trashing it.
lastly, he has used his station in a manner that suggested a pecuniary
interest.
in this day of paranoia and distrust, people like him can always be pointed
to as the worst possible example (and thus, give those in power a reason to
take away what we worked so hard to achieve. which is the worse threat?
well you seem to think that the petition is a bad idea, perhaps you need to
further review the facts before you go spouting off.
Mark S. Holden
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:52:58 -0700, N7ZZT - Eric Oyen <n7...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>Christy D wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This petition thing is a piss poor idea, invented by those who would
>>>unwittingly harm amateur radio itself.
>>
>>and you base this opinion on what facts?
>
>
> about the very bad notion that vigilanteism should be used by radio
> amateurs to expunge those with whom they disagree.
>
> There is already a system in place, but it isn't giving them the
> results they want, so they seek to find ways to take things into their
> own hands.
>
> That is the path to anarchy. That is the path chosen by fools.
I think the fact Baxter routinely violates the rules might have
something to do with this petition.
Net
"Michael Coslo" <mj...@enoughalready.psu.edu> wrote in message
news:d9sak9$vhk$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu...
>
> How is this "taking into their own hands? The petition has no legal
> binding for the FCC. All this is doing is giving the message that a lot of
> people do not think Mr. Baxter is deserving of having his license renewed.
> It is their opinion, and they may express that opinion because it is
> protected by the Constitution.
>
> And it is an opinion that can reasonably be reached by reasonable people.
>
>
> Freedom of speech is the path to anarchy? Oy.
>
> - Mike KB3EIA -
>
Opinions are like Assholes. Everybody has one, and yours
is hanging out in the open, when it comes to K1MAN. You
had better pull up your pants, before you become the
laughing stock, if you aren't already. You had better read
up on the Holegergenski case and petitions, before you make
yourself look even stupider than you are now. And when
were you given permission to trim newsgroups? You should
spend more of your time studying to upgrade from that
no-code tech license you have held for years.
Net
Vinnie S.
wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:52:58 -0700, N7ZZT - Eric Oyen <n7...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> Christy D wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > This petition thing is a piss poor idea, invented by those who would
>> > unwittingly harm amateur radio itself.
>>
>> and you base this opinion on what facts?
>
>And you miss the point that my criticism IS NOT ABOUT Baxter; it is
>about the very bad notion that vigilanteism should be used by radio
>amateurs to expunge those with whom they disagree.
What a crock. According to the FCC letters, this guy is a walking violation. If
someone plays by the rules, no petition will deny them renewal.
>There is already a system in place, but it isn't giving them the
>results they want, so they seek to find ways to take things into their
>own hands.
>That is the path to anarchy. That is the path chosen by fools.
Holy shit. It's a freemdom of choice. Don't sign it.
Anarchy? That is what is going on in Iraq. This ain't no fucking anarchy.
Vinnie S.
Vinnie S.
>
>"Michael Coslo" <mj...@enoughalready.psu.edu> wrote in message
>news:d9sak9$vhk$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu...
>>
>> How is this "taking into their own hands? The petition has no legal
>> binding for the FCC. All this is doing is giving the message that a lot of
>> people do not think Mr. Baxter is deserving of having his license renewed.
>> It is their opinion, and they may express that opinion because it is
>> protected by the Constitution.
>>
>> And it is an opinion that can reasonably be reached by reasonable people.
>>
>>
>> Freedom of speech is the path to anarchy? Oy.
>>
>> - Mike KB3EIA -
>>
>
>
>Opinions are like Assholes. Everybody has one,
I forgot about that one. But that is a great line, and perfectly described.
Sorry I snipped the rest.
Vinnie S.
N7ZZT - Eric Oyen
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:52:58 -0700, N7ZZT - Eric Oyen <n7...@127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>> Christy D wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > This petition thing is a piss poor idea, invented by those who would
>> > unwittingly harm amateur radio itself.
>>
>> and you base this opinion on what facts?
>
> And you miss the point that my criticism IS NOT ABOUT Baxter; it is
> about the very bad notion that vigilanteism should be used by radio
> amateurs to expunge those with whom they disagree.
ok then, explain the "felony afidavits" that k1man sent out. you want to
talk about maliciousness and vigilantism, there you go.
The problem is, you attempted to divert the point from the thread.
>
> There is already a system in place, but it isn't giving them the
> results they want, so they seek to find ways to take things into their
> own hands.
huh?
ever hear of bureaucratic inertia?
besides, the petition is just an alternate means to the same end (and its
valid under fcc procedures).
>
> That is the path to anarchy. That is the path chosen by fools.
step in line....
N7ZZT - Eric Oyen
me thinks you think this is a popularity contest (boy are you going to find
out the hard way).
The Old Man
<davie...@nospam.alvillage.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:43:43 -0700, N7ZZT - Eric Oyen <n7...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> Lloyd wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Pure bullshit! Grow up and get a life!
>> > and stop being obsessed with another's ham's life.
>>
>> gee, sounds like another one looking to get probed by the system for
>> unprofessional behavior on (and off) the air......
>>
>> I hate to say this Lloyd, but K1MAN earned whatever actions is being taken
>> against him. in fact, he demanded this action by his very threats.
>
>I hate to say this, Eric, but trying to revoke anyone's license by
>this means is an invitation to anarchy. You have quite a few enemies,
>don't you, Eric?
>
>Would you feel that they were justified in petitioning the FCC not to
>renew your license? Is there anyone else whose license "we" should
>petition the FCC not to renew? Pretty soon we can all be gathering
>signatures in an attempt to silence our perceived on-the-air enemies.
>
>This petition thing is a piss poor idea, invented by those who would
>unwittingly harm amateur radio itself.
Well said CHristy. But it IS the trend.
We want goverment to beat up "criminals" really hard for us.
We want the police to really HURT people when they arrest them.
We want the army to really HURT those prisoners in Abu Graib and
Guantanamo and the other prisons. That kind of toughness
will teach that K1MAN guy not to mess with US!
WE are #1 - and we are big and TOUGH and VERY masculine!
LOL!
KØHB
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2005, 4:01 AM
To: All Radio Amateurs [mailto:a...@arra.com]
Subject: Important Organizational Announcement
ARRA Founder Glen Baxter cuts a deal with Washington
Belgrade Lks, Maine., July 1, 2005 - In a surprise deal, ARRA Founder K1MAN and
FCC legal representatives at Dewey, Cheatum, & Howe, announced today that all
charges and NAL pending against K1MAN would be dropped contingent on a merger
agreement between ARRA and ARRL. Under the proposed arrangement, ARRL would
acquire the American Amateur Radio Association (ARRA), a leading provider of
Amateur Information Bulletin Services. The deal would unite the two most
prominent Amateur Radio organizations in the United States. Financial terms of
the proposed acquisition have not been finalized.
"The acquisition of ARRA complements ARRL's already extensive offerings to
include up-to-the-minute information and interactive discussion on what is
happening in the world of Amateur Radio," said Jim Haynie, W5JBP, president
of ARRL. "Together, we will be more effective in taking on some of the
challenges facing Amateur Radio, such as BPL and Spectrum Defense. This
brings us one step closer to being the national membership association for
Amateur Radio operators."
The acquisition also brings the strong leadership skills of Glenn Baxter,
K1MAN, to the ARRL organization. Baxter has been named ARRL Third Vice
President in the move. "Mr. Baxter is a welcome addition to our management
team here at ARRL," said David Sumner, K1ZZ, and ARRL Chief Executive
Officer. "I look forward to his fresh perspectives and enthusiastic
approach to running a service organization like the ARRL."
"Water under the bridge," said Glenn Baxter of ARRA about past frictions
between the two organizations. "Today marks a new beginning for all of us.
We're in this together now." Plans for collocating Mr. Baxter and Mr. Sumner
in adjoining offices at ARRL headquarters are currently underway.
In an official statement, Mr. Riley Hollingsworth, K4ZDH, FCC Legal Advisor
for Enforcement added, "Over the years, Glenn and I have become very close.
I look forward to continuing our professional relationship as he assumes his
new position."
In an effort to accelerate the shift to its new on-the-air image, ARRL has
already filed the paperwork necessary to make W1MAN the official call sign
of the combined organization. Joe Carcia, NJ1Q, ARRL station manager was
thrilled with the change, saying, "What a creative way to reflect our
traditional roots while also letting our bold, new face shine through!"
Broadcast operations at the facilities of ex-W1AW will be shutdown
immediately. ARRA's state-of-the-art studios in Belgrade Lakes, ME will
become the new source of all ARRL transmissions.
Amateur Radio insiders applauded the move. "These are interesting times for
Amateur Radio," said Gordon West, WB6NOA. "I sense a likely shift in the
ARRL views on many areas of the service. I think we'll be feeling the
positive impact of this merger for years to come."
"This is big . . . really big," said Joe Walsh, WB6ACU, lead guitar player
for the Eagles. It's exactly the kind of thing that will send our ticket
sales through the roof. With Glenn on vocals, and Sumner on drums . . .
this tour season will be our best since '73"
Audio aficionado and Amateur Radio entrepreneur Bob Heil, K9EID, also
supported the move. "This is a good thing for Heil, and it's about time
these guys got together", said Mr. Heil. "We are already working on a
special commemorative W1MAN microphone to honor the event."
ARRL was founded in May 1914 by Percy Maxim, a leading Hartford,
Connecticut, inventor and industrialist. Today ARRL, with approximately
152,000 members, is the largest not-for-profit organization of radio
amateurs in the United States.
Web links:
http://www.arrl.org
http://www.k1man.com
http://www.joewalsh.com
http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/Images/Joe-visits-Lab-One.sm.jpg
http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/Images/Bob-and-Jeff-Beck.jpg
Jim Leonard
their main goal is the termination of all new advances and demanding
everyone have a brass key on their desk
nancy regan had it right, just say NO!
"KXHB" <grou...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Michael A. Terrell
>
> ARRL is the cemetery of dead amateurs
>
> their main goal is the termination of all new advances and demanding
> everyone have a brass key on their desk
>
> nancy regan had it right, just say NO!
I think it shoud read: "Just say PLONK" Don't hit your head on the
way down the troll hole!
--
Former professional electron wrangler.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Marco van de Voort
You freaking fool, your plonk list is most likely every progressive
mind there is on usenet, time for you to go to the ARRL cemetery
yourself...
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Michael A. Terrell
You sound kind of cute. Did I mention i'd like to plonk your cute
little butt?
Former gay-nude wrestler.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Marco van de Voort
You are one sick puppy, but that is the best offer I have had all day
long, OK. Where do you want to meet at?
Marco
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Michael A. Terrell
>
> Michael:
>
> You freaking fool, your plonk list is most likely every progressive
> mind there is on usenet, time for you to go to the ARRL cemetery
> yourself...
Why would I care about the ARRL? I am not a ham and the ARRL is one
reason I never bothered with ham radio. I went into broadcast and
electronic manufacturing instead. If the people I have kill filed are
the best example of ham radio, it can die for all I care. As far as the
cemetery, I don't have that many years left so I will kill file whatever
reprobate I have to, to enjoy them in peace.
One thing is obvious. You have no manners, and no social skills.
Michael A. Terrell
>
You are so damn stupid that you fake a message, then reply from the same
news server. What a fucking idiot.
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Michael:
Marco
May you die by whatever means causes you to suffer the most, and may
your family have to watch every minute of it as it haopens, you low life
jackass.
Diego Nunez
"KØHB" <grou...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Hey Hans, that was a good one. did you cook that up last
night down at the Legion Hall, while you were telling radio
hero stories?
Diego Nunez
"Jim Leonard" <Moby...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ARRL is the cemetery of dead amateurs
>
> their main goal is the termination of all new advances and demanding
> everyone have a brass key on their desk
>
>
The ARRL and the FCC have been involved in illegal and
unethical collusion for decades, which is one reason K1MAN
will come out the winner!
Cmd Buzz Corey
>
> Why would I care about the ARRL? I am not a ham and the ARRL is one
> reason I never bothered with ham radio. I went into broadcast and
> electronic manufacturing instead.
Why would you let the ARRL stand in the way of your getting a ham
license? That's a pretty weak excuse, you don't have to have a single
thing to do with the ARRL as a ham.
Opcom
arrangements will be completed very early in April!
KŘHB wrote:
> From: ARRA [mailto:pr...@ARRA.COM]
> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2005, 4:01 AM
> To: All Radio Amateurs [mailto:a...@arra.com]
> Subject: Important Organizational Announcement
>
--
rest begards,
Patrick Jankowiak
- reply to r e c y c l e r AT s w b e l l DOT n e t
Michael A. Terrell
It was all their loyal members who put me off amateur radio. I
quickly tired of their bickering, and pissing contests over who spent
the most on their station, who had the biggest antenna farm, and which
brand of radio was the only one fit to be used on the air. I wanted to
design and build high end receivers in the microwave range, then I got
drafted and never considered a ticket again. I was awarded broadcast
engineer as a civilian acquired skill while in basic training, and had
enough hours keeping multiple transmitters on the air, along with two
studios. Amateur radio had lost its appeal for me. I am still
interested in receivers, but I don't have much time to work on them, and
the hurricanes last year destroyed most of my test equipment. So, I'll
have to see if I can afford to replace the equipment, repair the benches
and put a new roof on the shop before I can do any serious work again.
I am 100% disabled and can't climb a ladder, so I'll have to wait till i
can afford to hire someone to do it for me.
Michael A. Terrell
mental condition and chasing little green aliens away from the
equipment here!
Professional mud-wrestling wrangler.
Michael A. Terrell
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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N7ZZT - Eric Oyen
> From: ARRA [mailto:pr...@ARRA.COM]
> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2005, 4:01 AM
> To: All Radio Amateurs [mailto:a...@arra.com]
> Subject: Important Organizational Announcement
>
> ARRA Founder Glen Baxter cuts a deal with Washington
>
> Belgrade Lks, Maine., July 1, 2005 - In a surprise deal, ARRA Founder
> K1MAN and FCC legal representatives at Dewey, Cheatum, & Howe, announced
> today that all charges and NAL pending against K1MAN would be dropped
> contingent on a merger
<SNIP>
ROFLMAO!
someones idea of an April fools joke (only 3 months late). :)
I guess the law firm kinda gave it away, eh? :)
Cmd Buzz Corey
> Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Why would I care about the ARRL? I am not a ham and the ARRL is one
>>>reason I never bothered with ham radio. I went into broadcast and
>>>electronic manufacturing instead.
>>
>>Why would you let the ARRL stand in the way of your getting a ham
>>license? That's a pretty weak excuse, you don't have to have a single
>>thing to do with the ARRL as a ham.
>
>
> It was all their loyal members who put me off amateur radio. I
> quickly tired of their bickering, and pissing contests over who spent
> the most on their station, who had the biggest antenna farm, and which
> brand of radio was the only one fit to be used on the air.
So what, just because you may not agree with everyone who goes to
movies, does that stop you from going to movies? What made you think you
had to pay any attention to those "loyal members". What do you care who
has the biggest antennas or what brand of radio some other ham uses? I
think it is all just a weak excuse about something you didn't want to
put any effort into.
Michael A. Terrell
>
> So what, just because you may not agree with everyone who goes to
> movies, does that stop you from going to movies? What made you think you
> had to pay any attention to those "loyal members". What do you care who
> has the biggest antennas or what brand of radio some other ham uses? I
> think it is all just a weak excuse about something you didn't want to
> put any effort into.
Look, we've been through this before. I was interested in equipment
design and construction, not operating it. I was planning on trying to
market a 160 through 6 meter AM and SSB receiver I had designed when I
was drafted. After I left the service I got home to find that my shop
building had been damaged and torn down while I was in the army. All my
notes, prototypes, parts and test equipment were gone. I didn't have
the money to replace them at the time, and I had to find a job, buy a
home and get on with my life. During my years of working in electronics
I spent a lot of years working with RF. I was setting up a shop in my
four car garage to have a place to work when i retire. The hurricanes
last year soaked everything, and most of it is beyond salvage. I am 100%
disabled and can't repair the roof.
You can think whatever you want. I had lost interest then, just like
a number of licensed hams I know here in Florida. They haven't been on
the air in years and most of them aren't bothering to renew their
license when they expire. Are you going to bitch at them, too?
As far as movies, I have been to two movies since 1987, and I doubt
that I will ever go back to a movie theater. My ears rang for three
days from the excessively loud sound system, and I had a headache for a
week.
I started the project below to keep myself busy a few hours a week,
and to help others, rather than sit around and bitch about everyone
else.
--
http://home.earthlink.net/~computersforvets/
Cmd Buzz Corey
I am 100%
> disabled
And you keep telling us that, over and over. So you want a medal or
something?
>
> You can think whatever you want. I had lost interest then, just like
> a number of licensed hams I know here in Florida. They haven't been on
> the air in years and most of them aren't bothering to renew their
> license when they expire. Are you going to bitch at them, too?
All that has nothing to do with the ARRL being some reason for *you* not
getting a license. If you really wanted to put forth the effort to get a
license you would, ARRL or no ARRL. You just want to whine.
>
> As far as movies, I have been to two movies since 1987, and I doubt
> that I will ever go back to a movie theater. My ears rang for three
> days from the excessively loud sound system, and I had a headache for a
> week.
Poor baby.
>
> I started the project below to keep myself busy a few hours a week,
> and to help others, rather than sit around and bitch about everyone
> else.
>
Now if you could just fing a project so you wouldn't sit around and
whine about being disabled.
K1MAN
wrote:
Terrell wrote:
>> that I will ever go back to a movie theater. My ears rang for three
>> days from the excessively loud sound system, and I had a headache for a
>> week.
>
>Poor baby.
>>
>> I started the project below to keep myself busy a few hours a week,
>> and to help others, rather than sit around and bitch about everyone
>> else.
>
>Now if you could just fing a project so you wouldn't sit around and
>whine about being disabled.
Yeah - it didn't work well. He ended up sitting around bitching all
day anyway (grin!)
LittleGreenAlien
get a life
quit sniveling
get a job
do not let your whining be a burden to others.
LGA
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Jerseyj
Too bad you weren't into the hobby and didn't have some helpful ham
buddies to help fix the roof.
Scott in Baltimore
Opcom wrote:
>
> that was so funny I almost sh*t my pants! No doubt the final
> arrangements will be completed very early in April!
Like April 1st, 2006...
AKC owns this NG
the dam and play together as it becomes springtime in MD. Maybe
mopathetic will join you.
Michael A. Terrell
>
> Too bad you weren't into the hobby and didn't have some helpful ham
> buddies to help fix the roof.
Every ham I know in the area is either inactive, retired, or
disabled. The others moved out of the state when the Microdyne plant was
moved to Pennsylvania.
On the other hand, If I had charged them for repairs to their radios
over the last couple years that I was able to work I would have the
money to pay for a new roof.
It will happen, I just have to be patient. In the mean time I will
try to work in the 10' X 10' office in the back corner. I managed to
put the undamaged parts and tools in there. Now, if I can just arrange
it enough to set up a workbench.
Ian
take a check from a ham, cash only. Hams will always stiff you, but
I never met a freebander whose check did not clear. A Frebander's
check is always good.
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Steveo
> One thing I learned in the electronic repair business was to never
> take a check from a ham, cash only. Hams will always stiff you, but
> I never met a freebander whose check did not clear. A Frebander's
> check is always good.
>
Michael A. Terrell
>
> One thing I learned in the electronic repair business was to never
> take a check from a ham, cash only. Hams will always stiff you, but
> I never met a freebander whose check did not clear. A Frebander's
> check is always good.
I got some bad checks from CBers when I did 2-way radio and
commercail sound systems about 20 years ago in Ohio. I got even with
one jerk. He would put just enough in his checking account to pay his
rent and utilities so I waited till the first of the month to resubmit
the check. It cleared, and his rent check bounced. Boy, was he pissed!
;-)
After that, it was cash only, unless it was a commercial account.
Most of my customers were schools, churches and factories who didn't pay
in cash, but wouldn't write a bad check because you could file papers to
seize assets to cover a check and they weren't returned till the payment
was made.
N7ZZT - Eric Oyen
> One thing I learned in the electronic repair business was to never
> take a check from a ham, cash only. Hams will always stiff you, but
> I never met a freebander whose check did not clear. A Frebander's
> check is always good.
>
>
>
fascinating. its rather funny. you don't have to be a ham to bounce checks
(seen plenty of them from the likes of: little old ladies, young couples,
professionals and even freebanders and regular cb'ers AND hams. doesn't
matter which group you are in, a check bouncer comes in any form.
perhaps you should reconsider your overgeneralization?
Michael A. Terrell
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> I am 100%
> > disabled
>
> And you keep telling us that, over and over. So you want a medal or
> something?
No, it means that I am still learning to function, in spite of my
physical disabilities. I spent two years that I couldn't walk without
help, and didn't have the strength in my hands to hold on to tools or
lift anything over about a half pound. I have made a lot of progress WRT
my recovery, but it appears that you will always be a useless pain in
the ass. Just pray that you don't reach a point in your life where you
would welcome your own death.
--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.
Michael A. Terrell
Yawn. D-
--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Phil Kane
> No, it means that I am still learning to function, in spite of my
>physical disabilities. I spent two years that I couldn't walk without
>help, and didn't have the strength in my hands to hold on to tools or
>lift anything over about a half pound. I have made a lot of progress WRT
>my recovery, but it appears that you will always be a useless pain in
>the ass. Just pray that you don't reach a point in your life where you
>would welcome your own death.
Good for you. I spent two months in that condition last summer and
it was no fun. Good to see that you made it through. I still limp
a little.
Don't take any crap from bozos.
--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Michael A. Terrell
Thanks, Phil. I have to walk with a cane and can't do much, but I
haven't given up.
The Bozos are just sore that their TV show was canceled and that no
one wants the tired old clowns in their way. ;-)
Greg
> From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net>
> Organization: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/
> Reply-To: mike.t...@earthlink.net
> Newsgroups:
> rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.shortwave
> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:01:14 GMT
> Subject: Re: K1MAN/IARN/AARA Prepare For War With FCC and ARRL
>
(Snip)
> Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
> after threats were telephoned to my church.
>
> Michael A. Terrell
> Central Florida
Michael, that sucks. What happened?
You can email me directly if you want.
Greg
Lakeland
ka...@sonic.net
wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:38:08 -0400, "Net" <n...@whoanetscntro.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael Coslo" <mj...@enoughalready.psu.edu> wrote in message
>>news:d9sak9$vhk$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu...
>>>
>>> How is this "taking into their own hands? The petition has no legal
>>> binding for the FCC. All this is doing is giving the message that a lot of
>>> people do not think Mr. Baxter is deserving of having his license renewed.
>>> It is their opinion, and they may express that opinion because it is
>>> protected by the Constitution.
>>>
>>> And it is an opinion that can reasonably be reached by reasonable people.
>>>
>>>
>>> Freedom of speech is the path to anarchy? Oy.
>>>
>>> - Mike KB3EIA -
>>>
>>
>>
>>Opinions are like Assholes. Everybody has one,
>
>I forgot about that one. But that is a great line,
What rock have you been under since that dumb line was first
used in the seventies?
ka...@sonic.net
wrote:
>
>Opinions are like Assholes. Everybody has one,
Trying to sound tough by using trite sayings just lets
everyone know what a weenie you are.
Wogie Two Shoes
<ka...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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>
It takes one to know one.
Trite enough?