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AFRTS shortwave-how do military personnel receive it?

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redrum

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Jan 7, 2002, 7:57:30 PM1/7/02
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You know, I was wondering since AFRTS shortwave stations are in odd
places on the SW spectrum and the SSB they use is very sensitive-if
you're off by 1/10 khz you can't get it-do military personnel have
special radios made under military contract that are used just for
receiving AFRTS? Has anybody here actually served in the armed forces
(running around in cheap camos while carrying demilled AR15s doesn't
count) who knows?

CW

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Jan 7, 2002, 8:16:43 PM1/7/02
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AFRTS shortwave is not broadcast with the individual in mind. It's main
purpose is for ships, remote bases, ect. The signals are picked up by the
installations comms receiver and retransmitted for local personnel. This
retransmission may be by wire (ship intercom) or low power MW.
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CW
KC7NOD

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Wayne Hertel

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Jan 7, 2002, 8:52:05 PM1/7/02
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Didn't run around in camos - just ods and the original bellbottoms,
however, I could, and do pick it up on things like: Zenith T/0 7000Y
(with BFO), ATS-909 (in sideband), R-390A (with stock BFO (both in and
out of service). All you need is a stable receiver. Also, many sites use
the SSB signal for retransmission from local AM outlets.
Wayne

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> You know, I was wondering-do military personnel have

redrum

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Jan 7, 2002, 9:07:11 PM1/7/02
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In article <%Lr_7.24308$Sf2.222267@rwcrnsc52>, clinton...@attbi.com
says...

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>AFRTS shortwave is not broadcast with the individual in mind. It's main
>purpose is for ships, remote bases, ect. The signals are picked up by
the
>installations comms receiver and retransmitted for local personnel.
This
>retransmission may be by wire (ship intercom) or low power MW.

Ah. So it's a *feeder* signal. It goes through the comms guys who
retranslate it for the grunts. BTW, I've heard that a lot of military
comms gear is still made to boatanchor size and heft specs. OK, I guess
if you're in the Hindu Kush of Afghanistan you're gonna want a sturdy
radio. But the military doesn't have special radios made for the troops
to use off duty, like I thought. The reason I asked is because I once
saw on a website a pic of an AM only World War 2 rx made to mil
specs-same size as a civvie table radio but of gray painted metal. But I
guess special mfg was necessary since civvie radio production had
stopped.

Gray Shockley

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Jan 8, 2002, 5:03:43 AM1/8/02
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Just regular AM and FM radios - standard frequencies determined by SOFA
(Status of Forces' Agreements) with host countries. Standard AM or (more
normally FM) fairly low-powered transmitters. Good stations which are also
listened to by many of the nice folks in our host countries.

Nothing special - nothing expensive.

(And the TV channels are just regular TV channels except they're unusual in
some places as they're NTSC rather than PAL/SECAM).

The frequencies we discuss here in r.r.s. are "links", not broadcast freqs.


Gray Shockley
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Sergeant First Class, 33T4M
United States Army (retired)
Germany (twice), VietNam (twice),
Korea (once) and one hardship tour:
Fort Polk, Louisiana


atg

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Jan 8, 2002, 6:10:13 AM1/8/02
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When I was into DX'ing 15 years ago, I used to listen to AFRTS on my Yeasu
FRG7700. I haven't got around to it since I got back in. The content was a
lot like VOA, but obviously aimed at US listeners vs foreigners.

Todd


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Mike Andrews

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Jan 8, 2002, 11:24:16 AM1/8/02
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redrum <na...@na.da> wrote:
: You know, I was wondering since AFRTS shortwave stations are in odd

Don't know about now, but when I was overseas in 1968-70, we had
a regular BC-band station for our area. It was the AFRTS Far East
Network, Tokyo, run by Ssgt. Bud Boyd, on 640 KHz. IIRC, there
was an AFRTS BC-band station serving the Osan-Pyongtaek areas,
as well, and there may have been others in Japan and Korea. My
Navy guy here tells me that there was a BC-band AFRTS station on
Okinawa when he was there, too.

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Jim Vecchiola

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Jan 8, 2002, 3:18:01 PM1/8/02
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Actually, AFRTS shortwave is a "relay=type" service to bases which
convert the signal to AM or FM low-powered broadcasts .

dmt...@enter.net

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Jan 9, 2002, 5:39:55 AM1/9/02
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Hi All,

During the great war (WW2), I was a communications chief with the 10th
Air Force.

We used the BCB for direction finding on our aircrafts. All except the
Piper Cubs and L-5s) were equipped with DF equipment

The station I was involved with was WOTO (Wings Over The Orient) in
Bamo Burma. We broadcast all manner of local stuff. Even did a local
baseball game where the announcer was the first baseman who stuck the
mike in his back pocket while he was making a play. We had a record
collection that would be the envy of any stateside local broadcast
station.

Our transmitter was a BC-610 and the antenna was a special rig that
provided omnidirectional radiation. Not too much help in the
mountains of Burma, but we managed.

The troops had OD painted GI radios that tuned the BCB, so we got a
lot of good entertainment. Even had a request show that was very
popular.

We must have worn out ten copies of Glenn Miller’s “Moonlight
Serinade.” These were the old shellac records, and they didn't last
too long in commercial play.

The aircraft would also tune in for DF and entertainment when they
got close enough to pick up our signal. We had a ball with that
project. It was fun.

A few memories.

Don

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