Status of Shortwave.
Vijay
Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave Radio
Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years ago. (one of
my favorites wsas Radio Netherlands, Jonathan Marks). Had collected
some QSL cards back then but no longer have them.
However, after I moved to North America I got a shortwave radio and
tried listening just once. It was an average SW Radio from Phillips.
Just got BBC and VOA. That was it.
With Internet and Cable TV, I assume that SW has greatly decreased in
the US from my past experience. Based on the same, SW Radio is
expected to have become more prominent in other parts of the World or
atleast have remained the same as it was in the long term past. What
is the current status of SW Radio ? Perhaps others here with more
hands on experience currently can confirm this. This will be a great
learning for the rest of us.
Thanks.
Vijay
David
Frank Dresser
"Vijay" <rvi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There's still plenty of activity on SW radio. You should have heard
much more than the BBC and VOA. But some bands are better at different
times than others. And some days are better than others. There's alot
of stations just above the old standard SW bands now, and your radio
might not tune them. Your radio may have a problem causing poor
sensitivity.
Which bands were you tuning across and what times were you trying to
listen?
What model Philips radio do you have?
Frank Dresser
Fred Garvin
Shortwave is alive and well. You should hear a lot more than those 2
stations. Tell us your set-up and folks will give you tips.
Diverd4777
Shortwave is evolving rapidly..
It WAS the only way to get news years back;
( history snipped)
Now it is a very good source for news, entretainment, information;
Bouncing down off the Ionosphere from Antigua, or Ascension Island, Or
Australia..
& besides; - Shorwave is just Cool !!
http://www.complexvariablesstudio.com/wbcqtheplanet_001.htm
Dan
In article <bs04m4$tvj$1...@216.221.129.15>, Fred Garvin <Gar...@Truss.net>
writes:
Tony Meloche
Diverd4777 wrote:
>
> Vijay:
>
> Shortwave is evolving rapidly..
>
> It WAS the only way to get news years back;
> ( history snipped)
> Now it is a very good source for news, entretainment, information;
> Bouncing down off the Ionosphere from Antigua, or Ascension Island, Or
> Australia..
>
> & besides; - Shorwave is just Cool !!
Agreed. I started in 1965, and back then there were countless
international broadcast stations, and they stayed with the same
broadcast frequencies for years (there is a reason why old shortwave
radios frequently have "countries"
marked in varous places around the dial. Today, the Intl. broadcasters
are fewer, overall. But a much better radio and antenna than I had in
1965 allows me to hear much more that is (in many cases was) always out
there, too. Overall, it is a good time for shortwave right now.
Tony
>
> http://www.complexvariablesstudio.com/wbcqtheplanet_001.htm
>
> Dan
>
> In article <bs04m4$tvj$1...@216.221.129.15>, Fred Garvin <Gar...@Truss.net>
> writes:
>
> >
> >> Hi everyone:
> >>
> >> Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave Radio
> >> Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years ago. (one of my
> >> favorites wsas Radio Netherlands, Jonathan Marks). Had collected some QSL
> >> cards back then but no longer have them.
> >>
> >> However, after I moved to North America I got a shortwave radio and tried
> >> listening just once. It was an average SW Radio from Phillips. Just got
> >> BBC and VOA. That was it.
> >>
> >> With Internet and Cable TV, I assume that SW has greatly decreased in
> >> the US from my past experience. Based on the same, SW Radio is expected
> >> to have become more prominent in other parts of the World or atleast have
> >> remained the same as it was in the long term past. What is the current
> >> status of SW Radio ? Perhaps others here with more hands on experience
> >> currently can confirm this. This will be a great learning for the rest of
> >> us.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Vijay
> >
> >
> >Shortwave is alive and well. You should hear a lot more than those 2
> >stations. Tell us your set-up and folks will give you tips.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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WShoots1
<< However, after I moved to North America I got a shortwave radio and tried
listening just once. It was an average SW Radio from Phillips. Just got BBC and
VOA. That was it. >>
In what part of North America are you presently located? That makes a big
difference in what can be heard and when.
This (Friday) morning, at 1400 UTC, I tuned in to Clay Douglas on 12160 kHz. I
didn't hear him but there were many other stations on that frequency, several
being about the same strength.
That was on my little jWIN, using my metal chandelier as an antenna in my
metal-sheathed mobilehome. I was tempted to get serious with my DX-392, but I
had some work I had to do.
73,
Bill, K5BY
SE Texas
Clint
Other than the BBC making a formal decision quit broadcasting to the
United States due to the internet & satellite communications as well
as a few others doing the same, there is still LOTS of shortwave
activity... or, rather, at least plenty for the shortwave enthusiast
to tune into. Like a few others here suggested, you may be listening
at the wrong place at the wrong time or using a reciever that isn't
up to snuff anymore do to some needed maintenance.
You should try buying (or looking up online) a shortwave
broadcast guide that gives you broadcast times, frequencies, formats,
callsigns, etc of shortwave stations worldwide so you can track
them down. Also try putting up a better antenna, or more antennas
cut for different parts of the shortwave spectrum for more effecient
reception.
try this guide that I use... it's fairly comprehensive...
http://www.anarc.org/naswa/swlguide/
Clint
KB5ZHT
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But... bear in mind it has not been updated since June 8. It has information for the a03 season, and not the current b03.
Frank White
rvi...@yahoo.com says...
>
>Hi everyone:
Howdy!
>Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave Radio
>Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years ago. (one of
>my favorites wsas Radio Netherlands, Jonathan Marks). Had collected
>some QSL cards back then but no longer have them.
>
>However, after I moved to North America I got a shortwave radio and
>tried listening just once. It was an average SW Radio from Phillips.
>Just got BBC and VOA. That was it.
That's odd. Normally you can get all sorts of stations, even
with an average radio. At the least you should have gotten the
domestic shortwave broadcasts, commonly known as the 'land of
the free from reality and the home of the whackos'.
Maybe your set-up needed work.
> With Internet and Cable TV, I assume that SW has greatly decreased in
>the US from my past experience.
Cable TV? Why would that decrease shortwave?
Now the Internet, and the tendancy of broadcasters (like the
BBC) to abandon the airwaves for streaming audio, THAT is
a threat to broadcast shortwave.
Although internet broadcasts are sometimes no more dependable
than airwaves. I've had trouble getting the BBC, at times;
and for the past few days, Radio Iran's transmission has been
unintelligable...
>Based on the same, SW Radio is
>expected to have become more prominent in other parts of the World or
>atleast have remained the same as it was in the long term past. What
>is the current status of SW Radio ? Perhaps others here with more
>hands on experience currently can confirm this. This will be a great
>learning for the rest of us.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Vijay
Broadcast shortwave is alive and well, and STILL the best
source of non-U.S. oriented and dominated news, opinion,
and entertainment available!
And, domestically, of views from some of the nuttiest
fruitcakes this side of the asylum.
I hope you resume listening. It's a fun hobby...
FW
R Vijay
Fred Garvin <Gar...@Truss.net> wrote:
> Shortwave is alive and well. You should hear a lot more than
> those 2 stations. Tell us your set-up and folks will give you
> tips.
I agree with all the other posters here that shortwave is very
cool !!! I listened on my SW Radio in India several years ago as
the Berlin Wall came down. Radio DW sent me even a piece of the
wall !!! Don't have it anymore.
I was also sent books to learn Russian from Radio Moscow
(long before the USSR broke). Didn't followup on that though.
I moved several times and gave things away during the move.
Hence, don't have that SW Radio anymore. Had it like 10 years
back. Never really had an external Antenna for it. It was an
Indian model, most stations had local relay in India and so it
probably wasn't that great.
For the present I have several activities. However, in the long
term future I might look again at SW radio. It is so relaxing. No
need to stare at the screen like when using a PC or seeing TV.
Gives a feeling of being connected to the rest of the World.
One of my favorite Stations in India was the Christian Science
Monitor from Boston for its clear reception.
Presently I live in Quebec, Canada.
What would be a fairly decent but not too high end shortwave
Radio to look at for a beginner ?
Thanks.
Vijay
R Vijay
> Hi everyone:
>
> Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave
> Radio Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years
> ago. (one of my favorites wsas Radio Netherlands, Jonathan
> Marks). Had collected some QSL cards back then but no longer
> have them.
>
Also I would like an answer to this question.
Someone mentioned that while watching too much TV decreases IQ,
Radio listening is actually shown to increase IQ. Is there any
concrete evidence/sites/publishings in this regard ?
TV has so many commercials that repeat and keep going on and on
and on ....
SW is a blessing in that regard. Very little commercials.
Thanks.
Vijay
R Vijay
rvi...@yahoo.com (Vijay) wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
> Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave
> Radio Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years
> ago. (one of my favorites wsas Radio Netherlands, Jonathan
> Marks). Had collected
I am seeing a lot of North Americans here and am very surprised.
There are so many other activites to do these days here. Regular
radio, TV, DVDs, Movies, other hobbies, collectibles etc., etc.,
Why shortwave ? What motivates a North American to listen to
Shortwave and participate so much in detail here on the Usenet ?
What is the average profile of the SW listener in North America ?
Is this person someone who can't afford a PC, has a lot of
free time, lives in a fairly remote region etc., ? I feel this
way as jobs, chores and other activities fill ones life.
I was deep into SW in India. Reasons being no Internet access,
curious to know about the World, Great Clean Hobby, Once you had
the Radio there was no other recurring investment etc., After
comming to North America, getting poor signals with a bad
receiver, I got discouraged and gave up as otehr activities took
over my life. So curious.
Vijay
Fred Garvin
>
> SW is a blessing in that regard. Very little commercials.
AMEN TO THAT!
Tom Randy
> On 19 Dec 2003 04:32:14 -0800
> rvi...@yahoo.com (Vijay) wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone:
>>
>> Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave Radio
>> Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years ago. (one of my
>> favorites wsas Radio Netherlands, Jonathan Marks). Had collected
>
>
> I am seeing a lot of North Americans here and am very surprised. There
> are so many other activites to do these days here. Regular radio, TV,
> DVDs, Movies, other hobbies, collectibles etc., etc., Why shortwave ?
> What motivates a North American to listen to Shortwave and participate so
> much in detail here on the Usenet ?
Better news, unbiased, commercial free for the most part. Just plain FUN
to do! I love radio in general except internet radio. I have umpteen
portable am/fm radios, ham radios,XM satellite radio, shortwave radios.
Radio rules!
> What is the average profile of the SW listener in North America ? Is this
> person someone who can't afford a PC, has a lot of free time, lives in a
> fairly remote region etc., ? I feel this way as jobs, chores and other
> activities fill ones life.
I have 3 PC and run linux,Winblows XP,Mac OS9/10, mostly I run Linux
though. I live in a rural area 60 miles north of NYC. I have PLENTY to keep
me busy, radio takes up very little time, just tune and listen.
> I was deep into SW in India. Reasons being no Internet access, curious to
> know about the World, Great Clean Hobby, Once you had the Radio there was
> no other recurring investment etc., After comming to North America,
> getting poor signals with a bad receiver, I got discouraged and gave up
> as otehr activities took over my life. So curious.
Don't be a quitter, there is TONS of info on the net to help you pull in
the stations. Do a Google search.
> Vijay
R Vijay
rvi...@yahoo.com (Vijay) wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
> Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave
> Radio Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years
> ago. (one of
The only SW Radios sold that I have seen in North America are in
Radio Shack, they carry only the Grundigs. Walmart, Kmart etc.,
in the US and Canadian Tire etc., in Canada don't carry them. Is
my observation correct ? If not what are the other stores in
North America that carry SW Radios ? What is the average price of
a good SW Radio. I have seen the Grundig Satellite. It looks good
but is quite expensive and very attractive to a thief, lot of
home breakins in my area.
Vijay
R Vijay
rvi...@yahoo.com (Vijay) wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
> Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave
> Radio Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years
> ago. (one of
I used listen to CBC sometimes early in the mornings about two
years or so ago. They used to broadcast programs from DW, Swiss
Radio, Radio from Poland etc., early in the mornings. Each for
about 30 minutes or so. Mostly, European programs. Was fun to
listen to them. So, this is my small touch with Foreign Radio
though not via ShortWave directly.
Sometimes, I see people spending a lot of money on an AM/FM Radio
and can't help smiling. An average Radio would serve this
purpose. Better to invest this money on a SW Radio.
Vijay
R Vijay
rvi...@yahoo.com (Vijay) wrote:
Great Answer to my Question online at:
http://www.speedline.ca/grundig/
Also, lots of SW Radio's on ebay under $20 and some even around
$10 !!! However, they are not in Canada.
Vijay
David Eduardo
"R Vijay" <spam...@noemail.com> wrote in message
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SW radios are at nearly every electronics and gadget store. Frys in the West
has many; Sharper Image, Hammacher-Schlemmer, etc., have them, too. Have
even seen the multi-band one at Bed, Bath and Beyond in an
emergency-preparedness all-band, crank to power radio.
R Vijay
"David Eduardo" <radio...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> SW radios are at nearly every electronics and gadget store.
> Frys in the West has many; Sharper Image, Hammacher-Schlemmer,
> etc., have them, too. Have even seen the multi-band one at Bed,
> Bath and Beyond in an emergency-preparedness all-band, crank to
> power radio.
I truly can't believe this at all !!! Do so many people still buy
and listen to them ? I have not known any friend who has a SW
Radio in North America.
Vijay
Frank White
spam...@noemail.com says...
Curiosity is precisely the point. We - or at least, I - want
to find out more about other people and cultures, what THEY
feel is important, what their opinions are. You can also
hear music, stories, and discussions that would never make it
onto mainline media in the U.S. And - for those of us
dubious about what our government and news media are telling
us - shortwave provides a second source of information about
what's going on in the world...
FW
starman
>
> Also I would like an answer to this question.
> Someone mentioned that while watching too much TV decreases IQ,
> Radio listening is actually shown to increase IQ. Is there any
> concrete evidence/sites/publishings in this regard ?
If it were true, it might be because the more intelligent people
*choose* to listen to radio instead of television. The radio doesn't
make them smarter. They find radio more interesting because of their
intelligence.
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R Vijay
Fred Garvin <Gar...@Truss.net> wrote:
>
> AMEN TO THAT!
Glad you agree. On TV, in one hour, there are sometimes even as
much as 8 interrupts for ads. Almost half about cars !!
On SW, in those days (late 1980's) it was a pleasure to
listen to commercials as they were so rare.
I have listened to some very rare Gems such as Radio Mangolia or
Radio Ulan Bator, Radio Pyong Yang etc., etc., Clandestine
broadcasts were not that many.
However, as TV was still expensive and SW Radio within common
reach, almost a huge majority of the Indian Population in cities
had and listened to SW Radio.
Vijay
Tony Meloche
Absolutely. And another thing - one that I love about SW,
especially the Latin and South American countries, is the lack of
"gloss". I remember live local radio in the fifties, and that's what a
lot of SW reminds me of - all live, all the time, and all the slip-ups
and off-the-cuff stuff that goes along with that.
Tony
R Vijay
"David Eduardo" <radio...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> SW radios are at nearly every electronics and gadget store.
> Frys in the West has many; Sharper Image, Hammacher-Schlemmer,
> etc., have them, too. Have even seen the multi-band one at Bed,
> Bath and Beyond in an emergency-preparedness all-band, crank to
> power radio.
I need to visit more Mom and Pop Electronic Stores to see if they
carry SW Radios. This has me really curious. Most I went to
didn't have them at all. I thought SW was dead in North America
until I came here.
Vijay
RedOctober90
I started in SW in late 2001 and I tell you that the bands are always
packed with stations when I listen in the evening/night time. I like
listening to Voice Of Russia and it's mailbag program. You find
opinions and news here that you won't find off cable TV. The cable
system channels are all controlled by the elite corporations so your
not going to get the same openness you would get from certain SW
stations.
R Vijay
"David Eduardo" <radio...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> SW radios are at nearly every electronics and gadget store.
> Frys in the West has many; Sharper Image, Hammacher-Schlemmer,
> etc., have them, too. Have even seen the multi-band one at Bed,
> Bath and Beyond in an emergency-preparedness all-band, crank to
> power radio.
You are very correct. I couldn't contain my curiosity. Went to a
nearby Electronics Store. Then had a half a shelf full of SW
Radios. I was not looking in the right places before. I asked the
employee and he said that SW Radios are still popular but not as
much as before.
There were some nice Grundigs priced around $120 Canadian !! This
is very good to know for the future.
Vijay :))
Fredric J. Einstein
"entertainment mainstream" with the introduction of "digital
shortwave" using the DRM system.
I have the facility to listen to the "pioneering" transmissions of DRM
from BBC, Radio Canada, Vatican Radio, Radio Nederland, Radio Sweden,
China Radio International and Deutsche Welle every afternoon and
early evening from 2055 UTC till 0300 UTC.
I also, (on good nights), receive the DRM transmissions from Radio
Luxembourg here in Detroit, proving that DRM is feasible over
trans-Atlantic conditions. It's amazing that after a more than 10
year abscence from shortwave, Radio Luxembourg is back on the bands.
The fidelity, while not "audiophile" quality, is absolutely amazing,
approaching the sound quality of a decent FM mono table radio. No
static, no hetrodynes, no selective fading etc. Non-SWL'ers who I've
had over actually enjoy listening to it!
Since DRM uses the non-proprietary MPEG-4 digital audio compression
system, it is conceivable that inexpensive chipsets for decoding it
will be developed over the next couple of years and put into Sangean,
Sony, and Grundig receivers.
I don't mean to be a "shill" for DRM, but I am truly blown away by it
and its potential for making shortwave broadcasting viable again.
Fred E.
N8UC -- Detroit, MI
Dan Say
A good start in Canada is the advice and references at
the CIDX messenger and the ODXA Listening In (Google them)
http://www.odxa.on.ca/li.html
http://www.anarc.org/cidx/messenger.html
Frank Dresser
"starman" <sta...@tech.net> wrote in message
news:3FE67875...@tech.net...
> R Vijay wrote:
>
> If it were true, it might be because the more intelligent people
> *choose* to listen to radio instead of television. The radio doesn't
> make them smarter. They find radio more interesting because of their
> intelligence.
>
I'm not sure we are more intelligent, but I figure we are more
imaginative. We have to fill in the blanks during fadeouts, and the
conspiratorialists have us connecting the dots.
Why, the mere mention of floride can put me into a mental be-bop of
ideas, images and conspiracies. The NWO gets me into a Charlie Parker
swirl.
Radio hosts expose what they claim are the real powers behind the
scenes, and every day the Last Day Prophet of God tells the world as we
know it will be ending very soon.
And what do our couch potato brethren watch? A Victoria's Secret
underwear show which leaves little to the imagination, perhaps?
I think the intelligent choice is clear.
Frank Dresser
R Vijay
RedOct...@space.com (RedOctober90) wrote:
> I started in SW in late 2001 and I tell you that the bands are
> always packed with stations when I listen in the evening/night
> time. I like listening to Voice Of Russia and it's mailbag
> program. You find opinions and news here that you won't find
> off cable TV. The cable system channels are all controlled by
> the elite corporations so your not going to get the same
> openness you would get from certain SW stations.
Where are you located ? What receiver do you use ?
Thanks.
Vijay
CW
radios.
"R Vijay" <spam...@noemail.com> wrote in message
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starman
> imaginative. We have to fill in the blanks during fadeouts, and the
> conspiratorialists have us connecting the dots.
"When television came roaring in after the war (World War II) they did a
little school survey asking children which they preferred and why -
television or radio. And there was this 7-year-old boy who said he
preferred radio because the pictures were better."
Alistair Cooke- BBC radio
'Letter from America'
Mike Terry
power dx.
Mike
R Vijay
rvi...@yahoo.com (Vijay) wrote:
> Hi everyone:
>
> Newbie to this group.
I decided to listen to the SW relay from CBC Early in the morning
today. Heard DW and Radio Poland. It was great.
For now I don't feel I will listen to SW consistently. Hence, I
have decided to listen in on the Net as well as on the relay.
Doesn't matter thru what device I get the programs, as long as I
can listen to them.
In the long term future, when I feel that I will listen to SW a
lot, I might go ahead and get a SW Radio. In the meantime, I can
also look for good deals in pawn shops.
Vijay :)
R Vijay
True, but one will need a lot better equipment. Besides, without
standard, regular broadcasts, most average listeners will vanish.
Vijay
Telamon
R Vijay <spam...@noemail.com> wrote:
Well this is where we part company. It matters to me how I get the
programming. I won't listen to Internet broadcasts as long as SW is
around. I don't care for the SW relays either. I'm interested in hearing
broadcasts with my radio from the country of origin directly with only
the ionosphere in between.
What I want to hear is programming from a foreign transmitter to my
radio with no mitigating infrastructure (including DRM) in between.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Fredric J. Einstein
>What I want to hear is programming from a foreign transmitter to my
>radio with no mitigating infrastructure (including DRM) in between.
I don't know.... I listen to DRM broadcasts directly from
Junglinster, Luxembourg (there's no "mitigating infrastructure") here
in Detroit. DRM enticed RTL back onto shortwave when they had
previously abandoned it. Same with BBC to North America, Deutsche
Welle to North America, and Radio Sweden.
Unfortunately, relay stations will now be a part of shortwave
broadcasting due to financial constraints and the high cost of land
for the antenna site. Just because a station uses a relay
transmitter doesn't mean that the editorial comment will be affected.
However, it's your choice as to whether you want to listen or not.
You can certainly boycott Radio Sweden or China Radio and listen
exclusively to the huckster Gene Scott since there's no "mitigating
technology" such as relay stations or DRM involved.
Telamon
DRM uses proprietary codex's, which afford the broadcaster control of
who can listen. There is plenty to listen to on SW without relays. The
Gene Scott comment was stupid.
Strike 1
So lets see you purport to be intelligent enough to put together a setup
that lets you decode DRM but you are totally ignorant of the social
ramifications of this type of system.
Strike 2
Then you make asinine comments about relays.
Strike 3
I was replying to posters preferences in relation my own. You decided to
chine in making fun of my choices. This does not endear you to me and
relegates you to bafoon status.
Do you have any idea what I do about obnoxious people I run into on
Usenet? I ignore them.
< Plonk >
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
R Vijay
Telamon <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> Well this is where we part company. It matters to me how I get
> the programming.
Given my present personal
situation, I feel that something is better than nothing. By using
the Internet Broadcast and relay atleast I hear some SW Radio.
However, I agree with you that the real SW Radio broadcast is a
great pleasure and unique experience. Should my circumstances
change, certainly I will opt for it.
Vijay
Frank Dresser
> "When television came roaring in after the war (World War II) they did
a
> little school survey asking children which they preferred and why -
> television or radio. And there was this 7-year-old boy who said he
> preferred radio because the pictures were better."
>
> Alistair Cooke- BBC radio
> 'Letter from America'
>
>
Stan Freiberg likes that story, too. Now I'm trying to picture Fred
Allen passing himself off as a 7 year old.
I don't want to imply imagination is a universal attribute of radio
listeners. Consider the small subset who consider the entertaining
radio talk show blowhards to be some kind of great modern philosophers.
Sheesh. Better to learn physics from Warner Brothers cartoons.
Frank Dresser
Fredric J. Einstein
<telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
Just because someone disagrees with you and presents intelligent and
realistic reasoning, you lash out with uncontrollable rage and
insults. Control your rage! UseNet is a forum where people are
allowed freedom to strongly disagree.
Listen to whatever you wish. DRM doesn't restrict any editorial
opinoins and uses MPEG-4 compression scheme which is totally
non-proprietary. DRM brought several long-lost broadcasters back to
shortwave and will be the salvation of the medium. Your
pseudo-intellectual arrogance doesn't change that fact.
Frank Dresser
"Fredric J. Einstein" <fein...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:c023af9f210ca707...@news.teranews.com...
[snip]
>
> Listen to whatever you wish. DRM doesn't restrict any editorial
> opinoins and uses MPEG-4 compression scheme which is totally
> non-proprietary. DRM brought several long-lost broadcasters back to
> shortwave and will be the salvation of the medium. Your
> pseudo-intellectual arrogance doesn't change that fact.
Salvation from what?
Frank Dresser
starman
Wiley Coyote has always been on the forefront of physics.
Frank Dresser
>
> Wiley Coyote has always been on the forefront of physics.
>
>
True! But his plans never would have gotten off the ground if not for
the fine products found in the Acme catalog. And since a deaf guy has
already been a talk show host, I have to figure Acme has a gadget to
help a mute coyote enter the exciting world of radio babble.
Imagine the possibilitles! The coyote could use half his show to
mischaracterize road runners, and the other half to expose those
mischaracterized road runners as evil unpatriotic fools.
There's good money in that, too. The coyote need never again worry
where his next meal is coming from. It would only be a matter of months
before the coyote developed the rotund physique so fashionable among the
talkalti.
Frank Dresser
RHF
= = = wrote in message news:<3FE937D8...@bluesky.net>...
>
> Wiley Coyote has always been on the forefront of physics.
>
Starman,
It was suggested that I study Theatrical Physics in Collage.
jftfoi ~ RHF
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Ken Thomas
signs 101".
RHF
? Have I become your """""Personal Whipping Boy"""""" ?
Will 'singling' Me out as the OBJECT of Your Attention.
+ Make You FEEL Important ?
+ + Add to Your Social Stature ?
+ + + Improve Your Self-Esteam ?
All Things Being ===== Equal =====
What You have Said is NOT a +++++ Plus +++++ or ----- Minus -----
I remain "Free" to 'go' >>>>> Here >>>>> or <<<<< There <<<<<
IF (Big 'if') I have 'failed' to Communicate with You . . .
Well That Is Life = You Can't Please Everyone [.]
NOTE: My Personal RANT about "Illustrated English" follows:
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* * * * * BACKGROUND MESSAGES * * * * *
= = = Ken Thomas <bermi...@ananzi.co.za>
= = = wrote in message news:<8uljuv42inlsp5r0f...@4ax.com>...
FWIW: In this Message I did NOT 'use' any +s, -s, and/or =s.
Just the "~" for "Signed By" -or- "Signing Off"
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KW,
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Say... Get Real Dude !
- Can't Attack the Idea
- - Can't See the Humor
- - - So You Attack the Grammar
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* * * * * * * * * *
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On the Internet I 'write' to be 'Read' in "Illustrated English".
- - - To Quote Myself: "On the Internet I 'write' to be 'Read' in
"Illustrated English"."
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NOTE: The 'use' of Capital Letters and "Quotation" Marks to add
emphasis to the written word; to intone a sense of emotion to
the writing for both English Speakers (Readers) and those for
Whom English is a Second Language. (After All, This Is the
World Wide Web.) What Victor Borge did with the Spoken Word
is what I attempt to do in the Written Word in my Web Writings.
- - - - - - - - - -
note to me illustrated english is better that the common practice
of no capitals & no punctuation that is evidence by many in their
web writing
- - - - - - - - - -
"Victor Borge hilariously illustrated the importance of punctuation
markers for spoken language by giving them audible pronunciation.
In normal spoken English, the hearer depends on the intonation
patterns of the speaker to determine both the punctuation markings
and the mood of the sentence."
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But . . . Thank You for the Opportunity for Commenting on
"Illustrated English" and the Written Word Style of 'MY'
Web Writings.
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NOTE: If We Can Have WEBLOGS . . .
- - - Then Why "Oh WHY" Can We Not Find a Place for
"Illustrated English" as a 'positive' form of Web Speak
(Writing) on the Internet (WWW) ? ? ?
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Remember: Logic and Reality
- Can Only
- - Come Together
- - - In Our Minds
Now That Requires Thought !
- - - - H U M m m m m m m m
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Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature by Living ~ RHF
[ Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Tovarisch ]
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As my Daddy would often remind me:
"Remember to Always Say Something Nice and Be Kind."
- - - KW, Nice to Hear(Read) a Divergent View from "ZA" Land :o)
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- SAY DUDE... Live Long and Prosper !
- - A Little Bart Simpson -&- A Little Mr. Spock
- - - An American Cultural Fusion
LBJ's Great Society Takes On 'New Meaning'
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OBTW: KW, You have one of the Greatest Freedoms in the World.
* The Freedom Not To Read Anything I Write.
* * Thing About It - You Are In Control of Your Own Life.
* * * But Please... Do Not Try and CONTROL "My Life".
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Whats the Expression "Live and Let Live"
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The Bottom Line (TBL): I Remain ~ RHF
= = = Retired, Healthy and Free !
= = = In-Search-Of a Radio High Frequently :o)
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AV
>
>
> It would only be a matter of months
> before the coyote developed the rotund physique so fashionable among the
> talkalti.
>
> Frank Dresser
Not to mention a drug habit.
av
Charles Hawtrey
wrote:
>On the Internet I 'write' to be 'Read' in "Illustrated English".
>- - - To Quote Myself: "On the Internet I 'write' to be 'Read' in
>"Illustrated English"."
Which "Makes" >>you<< ^~Look~^ like a complete moron.
--
hambu n hambu hodo
Telamon
rhf-...@pacbell.net (RHF) wrote:
> ken thomas, Ken Thomas. KEN THOMAS !
>
> ? Have I become your """""Personal Whipping Boy"""""" ?
>
> Will 'singling' Me out as the OBJECT of Your Attention.
> + Make You FEEL Important ?
> + + Add to Your Social Stature ?
> + + + Improve Your Self-Esteam ?
>
> All Things Being ===== Equal =====
>
> What You have Said is NOT a +++++ Plus +++++ or ----- Minus -----
>
> I remain "Free" to 'go' >>>>> Here >>>>> or <<<<< There <<<<<
>
> IF (Big 'if') I have 'failed' to Communicate with You . . .
>
> Well That Is Life = You Can't Please Everyone [.]
>
> NOTE: My Personal RANT about "Illustrated English" follows:
You are getting feedback from regulars in the group telling you that
your posting style makes it harder for them to read your posts contrary
to your stated goals.
You could just write without substituting punctuation for words and
meaning. It may look good to you because you originated the "code" but
it takes everyone else extra mental processing to understand what you
meant when it could have just been written in words.
Often less is better. Try to confine the extra punctuation to just part
of your posts you want to emphasize instead of peppering it throughout.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Vijay
> Hi everyone:
>
> Newbie to this group. I have listened to several short wave Radio
> Stations and used to be a DXer in India almost 15 years ago. (one of
> my favorites wsas Radio Netherlands, Jonathan Marks). Had collected
Here is the link to all the stations I was able to listen to recently
thru relay. Perhaps, this might benefit someone here.
Vijay