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mc

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Jan 1, 2008, 9:05:04 PM1/1/08
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Sony makes a car stereo system that includes shortwave radio. How well does
it perform? Would I actually be able to hear at least the major
international outlets (BBC, RCI, etc.) while driving across town?

I'm a ham and have been an avid SWL in the past -- away from it recently --
but am also a linguist and would like to hear various languages regularly
(including something in Spanish with more intellectual content than the
local hit parade, or whatever it is). I understand that this radio would
not be for serious DXing.

Any experiences? Thanks.


mi...@sushi.com

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Jan 1, 2008, 11:35:07 PM1/1/08
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I saw the specs once. You would not be impressed. If you are just
going to listen to the BBC, then satellite would be your answer. From
a shortwave perspective, Sirius is better than XM. XM just has the
BBC.

Kenwood made a small DIN sized DC to daylight radio, with daylight
somewhere around 900Mhz. The last one I saw on ebay was being sold by
RadioMart (TM). I recall it was rare and most excellent. ;-)

mc

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Jan 2, 2008, 12:36:20 AM1/2/08
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> I saw the specs once. You would not be impressed. If you are just
> going to listen to the BBC, then satellite would be your answer. From
> a shortwave perspective, Sirius is better than XM. XM just has the
> BBC.
>
> Kenwood made a small DIN sized DC to daylight radio, with daylight
> somewhere around 900Mhz. The last one I saw on ebay was being sold by
> RadioMart (TM). I recall it was rare and most excellent. ;-)

Thanks. It occurred to me that one thing to do would be rig up a power
supply and external antenna for my Sony ICF-2010 and feed its audio into the
front input jack of a newer-style car stereo. That would give me the audio
amplification needed to overcome road noise, etc. The same could be done
with the Kenwood you describe; my handheld VHF scanner; and other things.

I'd like to hear from someone who actually has the Sony shortwave-compatible
car stereo. I wish the price increment weren't so big ($250 for the version
with shortwave, $100 for same features without shortwave). If it were just
a small percentage of the price I'd go for it.


GeorgeC

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Jan 2, 2008, 12:47:34 AM1/2/08
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That would be the Kenwood RZ-1, not too bad, but not exactly DIN sized, I
had one in the 90's. It was close but no cigar. Philips made the DC-777,
which was a pretty good one, DIN sized, 25W per chan apms, as I recall. I
had one in a Corvette and a Cougar. Pretty good, but 30-something inch
antenna is a bit small for weak DX, but still not bad.

I have now a Sony Xplod Series XR-4950 that I need to install one of these
days.

It has (again, I think I have this right) 40 watt amplifiers X4, but only
two RCA outs for external amplifiers.

Also called a XR-C5100

I got mine from Jacky's but I recently checked and that stuff is no longer
shown, and I could not find one...

But ebay may be a good place for a DC-777 or a XR-C5100, XR-4950X XR-4900

The Kenwood may be a better receiver, but now made for car radio
replacement. No Stereo on FM, etc. Does have AM, FM narrow, FM-Wide modes.

GeorgeC

george at d y b dot com

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cbx

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Jan 2, 2008, 8:56:03 AM1/2/08
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I have one of the Sonys, and it works just fine, as advertised.
I don't like it because it has a frequency gap which excludes
some of the domestic shortwave frequencies. Great for what you
want. There is a company in Canada selling them:

http://www.shortwavestore.com/sws/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=20

Radioguy

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Jan 2, 2008, 9:14:14 AM1/2/08
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A reasonable performer for a shortwave radio in an automobile.

junius

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Jan 2, 2008, 9:31:19 AM1/2/08
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On Jan 1, 9:05 pm, "mc" <l...@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote:

Some years back, I had picked up one of those Sony car stereos w/sw
tuner. Decent all-around product. The model I had purchased was #
XR-4950X. Got it from that jackys.com in Dubai. They no longer sell
Sony's SW-capable car stereos. I believe there is a Canadian firm
that does, however. At the time that I had purchased, Sony had a
number of
models out there, and basically, the tuner internals were the same,
according to what info I was able to gather. Frequency coverage for
the model I had used included some gaps. The gaps were kind
of annoying, but not horrendously bad: SW1 : 2940 - 7735 kHzSW2 :
9500
to 10140 kHz plus 11575 to 18135 kHz. Tunes only in 5 kHz
increments.
Selectivity adequate for listening to major broadcasters. At the
time
that I installed the unit, I had also installed a power line filter
and
antenna line filter purchased from Crutchfield. Given that I put
these
in at the same time that I installed the Sony, I can't say one way or
another if either of the line noise filter REALLY helped any. But,
in
any case, reception was pretty decent for the time that I was using
it.
Driving at night in the U.S. southeast and mid-Atlantic regions,
there
was generally plenty to pick up: V. of Russia, China R. Int'l., V.
of
Vietnam, R. Canada Int'l, R. Prague, Radio Bulgaria, R. Australia, R.
Austria, R. Taiwan Int'l, R. Havana, KBS, R. Vilnius, R. Netherlands,
R. NZ, V. of Turkey, BBC, R. Japan... Mornings could yield some
interesting stuff, too: I used to listen to R. Australia, BBC's
Caribbean service, KBS on the way to work. Also, if interested,
domestic U.S. sw broadcasters were easy to pick up.
At that time, I also had one of those C. Crane car antennas (designed
for enhanced MW reception) hooked up
to the car's antenna jack.


Anyway, it provided respectable performance overall, both on the
interstate and in city traffic. The car was an old one, so I guess I
didn't have to worry about computer generated noises and that sort of
thing.


MW reception was decent on the Sony, with one exception: it was
impossible to scan in any useful way (it would stop on EVERY
frequency,
regardless of whether there was anything to be heard or not...perhaps
the C. Crane antenna was doing too good a job). The FM reception was
pretty decent, too.

Junius


mc

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Jan 2, 2008, 10:21:01 AM1/2/08
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Thanks to everyone for the information!


mi...@sushi.com

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Jan 3, 2008, 12:40:32 AM1/3/08
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On Jan 1, 9:47 pm, "GeorgeC" <spamd...@dyb.com> wrote:
> That would be the Kenwood RZ-1, not too bad, but not exactly DIN sized, I
> had one in the 90's. It was close but no cigar. Philips made the DC-777,
> which was a pretty good one, DIN sized, 25W per chan apms, as I recall. I
> had one in a Corvette and a Cougar. Pretty good, but 30-something inch
> antenna is a bit small for weak DX, but still not bad.
>
> I have now a Sony Xplod Series XR-4950 that I need to install one of these
> days.
>
> It has (again, I think I have this right) 40 watt amplifiers X4, but only
> two RCA outs for external amplifiers.
>
> Also called a XR-C5100
>
> I got mine from Jacky's but I recently checked and that stuff is no longer
> shown, and I could not find one...
>
> But ebay may be a good place for a DC-777 or a XR-C5100, XR-4950X XR-4900
>
> The Kenwood may be a better receiver, but now made for car radio
> replacement. No Stereo on FM, etc. Does have AM, FM narrow, FM-Wide modes.
>
> GeorgeC
>
> george at d y b dot com
>
> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in message

>
> news:3eb5603c-d696-4879...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jan 1, 6:05 pm, "mc" <l...@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote:
> > > Sony makes a car stereo system that includes shortwave radio. How well
> does
> > > it perform? Would I actually be able to hear at least the major
> > > international outlets (BBC, RCI, etc.) while driving across town?
>
> > > I'm a ham and have been an avid SWL in the past -- away from it
> recently --
> > > but am also a linguist and would like to hear various languages
> regularly
> > > (including something in Spanish with more intellectual content than the
> > > local hit parade, or whatever it is). I understand that this radio
> would
> > > not be for serious DXing.
>
> > > Any experiences? Thanks.
>
> > I saw the specs once. You would not be impressed. If you are just
> > going to listen to the BBC, then satellite would be your answer. From
> > a shortwave perspective, Sirius is better than XM. XM just has the
> > BBC.
>
> > Kenwood made a small DIN sized DC to daylight radio, with daylight
> > somewhere around 900Mhz. The last one I saw on ebay was being sold by
> > RadioMart (TM). I recall it was rare and most excellent. ;-)

Yes, that was the beast. The dimensions listed here are DIN.
http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/rz1.htm

ve3...

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Jan 3, 2008, 11:30:53 AM1/3/08
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On Jan 2, 10:21 am, "mc" <l...@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for the information!

The Power Hour announced yesterday that they had some Sony short wave
car radios to sell. They claimed that they were the only source in the
US. The phone number was 877-817-9829. I think the price was 249.95.


Mike Terry

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Jan 3, 2008, 2:22:39 PM1/3/08
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Any sources in the UK please?

Mike

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dxAce

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Jan 3, 2008, 2:31:23 PM1/3/08
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Mike Terry wrote:

Here's a link:

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news3/sony_radio.htm

dxAce
Michigan
USA


RHF

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On Jan 3, 8:30 am, "ve3..." <ve3...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 10:21 am, "mc" <l...@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for the information!

- The Power Hour announced yesterday that they had some
- Sony short wave car radios to sell. They claimed that they
- were the only source in the US. The phone number was
- 1-877-817-9829. I think the price was 249.95.

VE3 - This may be technically correct.

ABOUT - The Power Hour on Shortwave Radio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_Hour
THE POWER HOUR - http://www.thepowerhour.com/
Welcome to The Power Hour with Joyce Riley and Dave VonKleist!
http://www.thepowerhour.com/welcome.htm#
CopyRight © 2007 - The Power Hour - All Rights Reserved.

WWCR Shortwave Program Guide - Monday ~ Friday
http://www.wwcr.com/wwcr_program/ProgGuide.htm
"The Power Hour" with Joyce Riley and Dave VonKleist

KAIJ Shortwave Program Guide - Monday ~ Friday
http://24.151.207.180/k/kaij/pages/programs.php
"The Power Hour" with Joyce Riley and Dave VonKleist

The Power {Hour} Mall - http://www.thepowermall.com/
* Sony Car Radio - Model # CDX-GT160S
http://www.thepowerhour.com/news3/sony_radio.htm
Sony In-Dash {Auto} AM/FM Shortwave Radio with CD Player
CopyRight © ThePowerMall.com


as always more than you wanted to know ~ RHF
.

RHF

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Jan 3, 2008, 3:01:52 PM1/3/08
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On Jan 3, 8:30 am, "ve3..." <ve3...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 10:21 am, "mc" <l...@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for the information!

- The Power Hour announced yesterday that they had some
- Sony short wave car radios to sell. They claimed that they
- were the only source in the US. The phone number was
- 1-877-817-9829. I think the price was 249.95.

VE3 - This also may be technically correct since :

The Shortwave Store : Shortwave Receivers :
- - - Car Stereos with Shortwave - - -
http://www.shortwavestore.com/sws/home.php?cat=42
The Shortwave Store - Sony In-Dash {Auto} AM/FM Shortwave Radios
* Sony Model # CDXGT260S
* Sony Model # CDXGT360S
Technically these are Auto-Car AM & FM-Stereo Shortwave* Radios
with MP3 + WMA + CD Player and MP3 Player Input Jack.
* Note the Shortwave Radio Band Coverage is in two Bands
SW1 : 2,940 - 7,735 kHz = 120m, 90m, 75m, 60m, 49m, 41m
SW2 : 9,500 - 18,135 kHz = 31m, 25m, 22m, 19m, 16m
Except for SW2 the Frequency Range : 10,140 - 11,575 kHz
is not covered by these Radios.

The Shortwave Store - http://www.shortwavestore.com/
http://www.shortwavestore.com/sws/home.php
Is actually : Durham Radio Sales & Service Inc. {Canada}

-dba- The Shortwave Store from Canada not the USA.
http://www.shortwavestore.com/sws/help.php?section=contactus&mode=update
Address : 10-1380 Hopkins St.,
Whitby, Ontario L1N 2C3 -Canada-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitby%2C_Ontario
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Whitby,+ON,+Canada&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title

Telephone International : 905-665-5466
Area Code "905" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_905
Telephone Dialing Area Code 905 is for South Central Ontario, Canada.

The Shortwave Store "Shortwave Radios and More"
Copyright (c) 1993-2008 The Shortwave Store
All Rights Reserved - Durham Radio Sales & Service Inc.

dxAce

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dxAce wrote:

I made an attempt to look up the specs on this radio and could not find anything
related to shortwave. The only thing the 'S' denotes in the model number is the
fact that it's silver in colour.

Buyer beware!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Brenda Ann

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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.thepowerhour.com/news3/sony_radio.htm
>
> I made an attempt to look up the specs on this radio and could not find
> anything
> related to shortwave. The only thing the 'S' denotes in the model number
> is the
> fact that it's silver in colour.
>
> Buyer beware!
>


It does indeed have SW, though I can't find any detailed information from
Sony as to what frequency range(s) it has. This link does say it has 12
presets for SW, though.

http://www.sony-asia.com/product/cdx-gt160s/sku/cdx-gt160s%252F%252Fc+e?site=hp_en_AP_i


Brenda Ann

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"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote in message
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I hate links that are only good once....

You need to go to the Sony Asia site, choose in-car entertainment, CD
receivers, and choose the model number.


>
>


dxAce

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Jan 3, 2008, 3:29:32 PM1/3/08
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Brenda Ann wrote:

Interesting! I had looked at that page, but didn't notice what you've seen. Click on the
specs however and it seems to make no mention of SW.

Brenda Ann

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"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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Apparently, it's not a major sellling point. Notice on the box on the
original link, it does say SW also.

msg

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mc wrote:

> Sony makes a car stereo system that includes shortwave radio. How well does
> it perform? Would I actually be able to hear at least the major
> international outlets (BBC, RCI, etc.) while driving across town?

<snip>
This got me looking for alternatives; a quick web search produced references
to the Becker Europa radio, (presumably DIN form factor) which includes
shortwave in various models covering at least 40 years.

Here is a photo of a vintage version:
http://www.mbzponton.org/images/mb_radio_Becker_Europa_TR_190SL.jpg

Here is an eBay listing of a more current version (quite inexpensive):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Becker-Europa-LMKU-Radio_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80741QQihZ003QQitemZ130186119409QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Also quite popular were converters; one of the most visually attractive
was made by Reims and had pushbutton selection of various band segments.
www.mbzponton.org/valueadded/other/radios.htm (scan down the page)

There certainly were aftermarket converters for continuous SW coverage with features
to be found in communication receivers; but the Reims unit seems to be one
of the few stock options available for a car.

Anyone know of other brands or options for various automobile makes?

Regards,

Michael


RHF

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On Jan 3, 12:55 pm, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
>
> news:477D45AC...@milestones.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Brenda Ann wrote:
>
> >> "dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
> >>news:477D3F89...@milestones.com...
> >> >>http://www.thepowerhour.com/news3/sony_radio.htm
>
> >> > I made an attempt to look up the specs on this radio and could not find
> >> > anything
> >> > related to shortwave. The only thing the 'S' denotes in the model
> >> > number
> >> > is the
> >> > fact that it's silver in colour.
>
> >> > Buyer beware!
>
> >> It does indeed have SW, though I can't find any detailed information from
> >> Sony as to what frequency range(s) it has. This link does say it has 12
> >> presets for SW, though.
>
> >>http://www.sony-asia.com/product/cdx-gt160s/sku/cdx-gt160s%252F%252Fc...

>
> > Interesting! I had looked at that page, but didn't notice what you've
> > seen. Click on the
> > specs however and it seems to make no mention of SW.
>
> Apparently, it's not a major sellling point. Notice on the box on the
> original link, it does say SW also.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

FO&A,

Since the Basic Model Numbers are CDX-GTxxxS
http://www.sony.com.sg/productcategory/ice%2Bcd%2Breceiver?site=hp_en_SG_i

All Three Compared - http://tinyurl.com/23cre3
1 - Sony Model # CDX-GT160S
2 - Sony Model # CDX-GT260S
3 - Sony Model # CDX-GT360S

Could the "S" at the end of the Model Number
simply mean 'Shortwave' ?

I would suspect that the Shortwave Radio Frequency
Coverage would be the same for all :


SW1 : 2,940 - 7,735 kHz = 120m, 90m, 75m, 60m, 49m, 41m
SW2 : 9,500 - 18,135 kHz = 31m, 25m, 22m, 19m, 16m
Except for SW2 the Frequency Range : 10,140 - 11,575 kHz
is not covered by these Radios.

eBay.Co.HK {Hong Kong} is an alternative source
for these Sony CDX-GTxxxS Radios
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=Sony+CDX-GT*

Example Sony Model # CDX-GT160S
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ220161510338
Price : £62.99 + S&H £22.99 = £86 = US$170

Also eBay Australia has some of these
Sony CDX-GTxxxS Radios
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/_W0QQitemZ190140690426
Price : AU$145 + S&H AU$45 = AU$190 = US$167

~ RHF
.


RHF

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On Jan 3, 1:23 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
> mc wrote:
> > Sony makes a car stereo system that includes shortwave radio.  How well does
> > it perform?  Would I actually be able to hear at least the major
> > international outlets (BBC, RCI, etc.) while driving across town?
>
> <snip>
> This got me looking for alternatives; a quick web search produced references
> to the Becker Europa radio, (presumably DIN form factor) which includes
> shortwave in various models covering at least 40 years.
>
> Here is a photo of a vintage version:
>    http://www.mbzponton.org/images/mb_radio_Becker_Europa_TR_190SL.jpg
>
> Here is an eBay listing of a more current version (quite inexpensive):
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Becker-Europa-LMKU-Radio_W0QQcmdZViewI...

>
> Also quite popular were converters; one of the most visually attractive
> was made by Reims and had pushbutton selection of various band segments.
>    www.mbzponton.org/valueadded/other/radios.htm (scan down the page)
>
> There certainly were aftermarket converters for continuous SW coverage with features
> to be found in communication receivers; but the Reims unit seems to be one
> of the few stock options available for a car.
>
> Anyone know of other brands or options for various automobile makes?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael

Becker Radio$ Expen$ive ?

What was it they use to say many years ago . . .

The only 'acce$$ory' that you could get with your
Becker Radio is a Mercede$ Benz ! :o) ~ RHF
.

AussieDrifter

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Jan 3, 2008, 11:29:41 PM1/3/08
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Guys,

I originally had the Sony XR-5100 SW/AM/FM Car Radio. It worked great as
long as I had the car engine stopped. A length of wire added to the car
antenna was used to allow the radio to reach it full potential. A
couple of CONS was that it was Tape Deck cd a CD Player and there was no
AUX input.

Well the wifes radio finally died in her Suzuki ~2 months back, so we
went to the local auto shop (Supercheap) and too my surprise there was
the Sony CDX-GT160 SW/AM/FM radio. I though Bugger me, looked at the
price and had to look twice as it was priced AUD$136. It was a CD Player
and it also had AUX input jack on the front. Turned to the wife and
said, "DARLS" here a nice little radio for yer :) Well the price was
perfect and I still did not beleive it till I got to the till and it
rang up as AUD$136. JACKPOT!!

Installed it in her car and done a few tests with and without the ext.
antenna wire and it WORKED fine. Ran in side and said the wife "I WANT
ONE" she busted out laughing and we headed of to get one.

But to our shock it was the last one hence the sell out price. We
finally tracked down once at another store but it was the GT260/360
can't remember now, and was $199, but the bloke at the store knew the
other bloke and bingo said if I wanted it now he could give it to be for
AUD $149. SOLD!!! Raced over and picked it up and installed it in to
the Pajero. The only difference between the two models appears to be
EQUALIZER modes I thinks apart from that they are identical :)

So from me and my Wifey, we can both say they and the (XR-5100) are
great SW/AM and FM car radios. But remember to always keep a bit of
hook wife to get its full potential when stopped at the side of the road
/ camping.

Regards
Mark

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Brenda Ann

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"AussieDrifter" <mark__ru...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Well the wifes radio finally died in her Suzuki ~2 months back, so we
> went to the local auto shop (Supercheap) and too my surprise there was
> the Sony CDX-GT160 SW/AM/FM radio.

Could you cue us in as to the band(s) covered on SW?

AussieDrifter

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G'day,
Sorry, I'm not near the vehicles, however from memory I believe
RHF's post was fairly accurate if not pretty dam close:

>> Coverage would be the same for all :
>> SW1 : 2,940 - 7,735 kHz = 120m, 90m, 75m, 60m, 49m, 41m
>> SW2 : 9,500 - 18,135 kHz = 31m, 25m, 22m, 19m, 16m
>> Except for SW2 the Frequency Range : 10,140 - 11,575 kHz
>> is not covered by these Radios.

As if I remember correctly I can't quiet tune in ABC Alice Springs which
is 2310 khz. But I've tune 4, 5, 6, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15, 17 mhz Shortwave
stations :) Even heard the ham operators on 14 mhz but obviously it
hasn't got SSB :(

Regards
Mark

Patty Winter

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In article <13nqk7h...@corp.supernews.com>,


msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
>mc wrote:
>

>This got me looking for alternatives; a quick web search produced references
>to the Becker Europa radio, (presumably DIN form factor) which includes
>shortwave in various models covering at least 40 years.

Sorry, I've forgotten what the various car radio form factors are,
so this might not be the right one for you, but a company in Florida
called Continental Imports sells the Becker Mexico:

http://www.continentalimports.com/be_radios.html

I got the cassette version 2-3 years ago, and it has very good
sensitivity. (Except when my antenna connection goes loose, but
that's another story...)


Patty

RHF

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On Jan 25, 11:59 pm, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> In article <13nqk7h8qphf...@corp.supernews.com>,

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Jan 27, 2008, 9:49:31 AM1/27/08
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On Jan 1, 9:05 pm, "mc" <l...@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote:
> Sony makes a car stereo system that includes shortwave radio.  How well does
> it perform?  Would I actually be able to hear at least the major
> international outlets (BBC, RCI, etc.) while driving across town?
>
> I'm a ham and have been an avid SWL in the past -- away from it recently --  
> but am also a linguist and would like to hear various languages regularly
> (including something in Spanish with more intellectual content than the
> local hit parade, or whatever it is).  I understand that this radio would
> not be for serious DXing.
>
> Any experiences?  Thanks.

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Feb 7, 2008, 5:02:51 AM2/7/08
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> Since the Basic Model Numbers are CDX-GTxxxShttp://www.sony.com.sg/productcategory/ice%2Bcd%2Breceiver?site=hp_en...
>
> All Three Compared -http://tinyurl.com/23cre3

> 1 - Sony Model # CDX-GT160S
> 2 - Sony Model # CDX-GT260S
> 3 - Sony Model # CDX-GT360S
>
> Could the "S" at the end of the Model Number
> simply mean 'Shortwave' ?
>
> I would suspect that the Shortwave Radio Frequency
> Coverage would be the same for all :
> SW1 : 2,940 - 7,735 kHz = 120m, 90m, 75m, 60m, 49m, 41m
> SW2 : 9,500 - 18,135 kHz = 31m, 25m, 22m, 19m, 16m
> Except for SW2 the Frequency Range : 10,140 - 11,575 kHz
> is not covered by these Radios.
>
> eBay.Co.HK {Hong Kong} is an alternative source
> for these Sony CDX-GTxxxS Radioshttp://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satit...
>
> Example Sony Model # CDX-GT160Shttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ220161510338

> Price : £62.99 + S&H £22.99 = £86 = US$170
>
> Also eBay Australia has some of these
> Sony CDX-GTxxxS Radioshttp://cgi.ebay.com.au/_W0QQitemZ190140690426

> Price : AU$145 + S&H AU$45 = AU$190 = US$167
>
> ~ RHF
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Telamon,

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Your Vast Knowledge and Great Expertise.

but alas you were once again 'mia' ~ RHF

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On Tuesday, January 1, 2008 at 6:05:04 PM UTC-8, mc wrote:
> Sony makes a car stereo system that includes shortwave radio. How well does
> it perform? Would I actually be able to hear at least the major
> international outlets (BBC, RCI, etc.) while driving across town?
>
> I'm a ham and have been an avid SWL in the past -- away from it recently --
> but am also a linguist and would like to hear various languages regularly
> (including something in Spanish with more intellectual content than the
> local hit parade, or whatever it is). I understand that this radio would
> not be for serious DXing.
>
> Any experiences? Thanks.

I

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Sep 3, 2019, 6:10:34 PM9/3/19
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I have the 2 band Sony xplod but SW is just static.
Can I put antenna inFront input jack or what do I do?
Ignoramus about SW

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On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 3:10:34 PM UTC-7, nornor...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have the 2 band Sony xplod but SW is just static.
> Can I put antenna inFront input jack or what do I do?

I had a DC777 in my previous car. I found that the most important thing for reducing ignition noise was to make sure the coax was well-grounded to the car chassis where it connected to the exterior antenna. This was not necessary to receive the local stations on the AM and FM bands, but it was absolutely required for SW reception. The antenna was mounted on the rear fender, so this may have helped since it was as far away from the engine as possible.

I was able to get all the usual powerhouse broadcasters (BBC, RHC, VoA) from my QTH in the SF bay area, and even some of the less common broadcasters like Radio Singapore, VOA Trincomalee, and BBC Ascension Island. As usual, the time of day and the propagation conditions were important. I never tried to go for real exotic DX while I was driving.

I don’t think you need to worry too much about sensitivity because the car will have a high electronic noise floor (making it harder to receive weak signals) and because of the high acoustic noise. My guess is that your Sony will be more limited by your installation rather than its intrinsic technical capabilities.

Frank

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Sep 4, 2019, 4:06:37 PM9/4/19
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On Tue, 03 Sep 2019 15:10:32 -0700, nornornorman wrote:

> I have the 2 band Sony xplod but SW is just static.
> Can I put antenna inFront input jack or what do I do? Ignoramus about SW

There really isn't much SW broadcasting anymore. You can try scanning the bands with the car not running. The usual thing to try is lower frequencies, say below 9 Mhz during the evening and higher frequencies during the day. There can be local exceptions, such as Toronto's CFRB, at 6.something Mhz frequently makes it to the Chicago area in the afternoons. If your radio can receive 5, 10, 15 and/or 20 Mhz, try tuning in the time station WWV. They broadcast 24/7 on those frequencies.

Try the radio with the key in the accessory position and the car parked as far from buildings and power lines as reasonably possible.

I'm assuming the existing antenna is OK. During the evenings, you should be able to hear many out of town AM stations in between the local powerhouse AM stations, if the antenna is OK.
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