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Jim

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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i have four radios from rat shack. a dx-100, two dx-390's and one
dx-392. there is something wrong with every one of the sangean models.
the dx-100 only suffers from design limitations. (there are several) one
dx-390 is deaf as a doorknob. (i know about the front end fet problem,
thats not the deal here) the other one works great but the speaker
rattles and it gets images of am stations here and there. the dx-392
works great also but it gets images like the other radio and the bfo
knob is out of calibration so that it is way off to the side when
zero-beat is found. both the dx-390's have had the fet replaced. i cant
wait till the dx-392 gets this too. i think that the quality control on
these radios is terrible. each one has different manufacturing flaws.
who is to blame, the shack or sangean? are sangean "brand" radios also
junk or do they just sell their "seconds" to rat shack?


Jon

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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> i have four radios from rat shack. a dx-100, two dx-390's and one
> dx-392. there is something wrong with every one of the sangean models.

This post sounds like a troll. If you bought them from the Shack, simply
return them. My experiences with Sangean and Radio Shack are about 180
degrees from yours.


Bill Fairbanks

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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I've owned several Radio Shack shortwave radios over the years and while
they work okay at the start, they just don't hold up very well. I've had
my DX-440 in the shop for frequency instability (a common problem, Iv'e
found out) and it needs to go back again. Admittedly, the repair held up
for 3 or 4 years but the repair no doubt has climbed from it's initial
$56.00 or so at the local RS Service Center.

Personally, I think the problem lies with the Quality Control at the
overseas factories. The problems with CCrane's, CCRadio are well known and
the GE SupeRadio is plagued with them as well. So, why should Radio
Shack's gear be any different? Those Chinese and Malayan plants make
product for just about everybody.

Bill


Jon

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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> I've owned several Radio Shack shortwave radios over the years and while
> they work okay at the start, they just don't hold up very well.....
> Admittedly, the repair held up for 3 or 4 years....

My Rat Shack radios have been more efficient and more reliable than all the
computers and cars I've bought in the last 20 years! ;-) We have a DX-390
that was purchased when the model was first introduced and it has seen
daily use with no problems. What kills radios is humidity and
condensation, cigarette smoke, and salty coastal air.


Andy S

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Why buy so many if you don't like them ?, then you speak about getting the
new model !!!!!
Spend your dosh on a decent rx and keep it for years.

"Jim" <inagadd...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> i have four radios from rat shack. a dx-100, two dx-390's and one
> dx-392. there is something wrong with every one of the sangean models.

Jim

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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troll my ass, JON. who the hell are you? i was commenting on my radio
collection. i keep buying them because i am trying to get a good one.
every time i go to the shack i come out angry. if you dont think other
people feel this way then do a deja search for radio shack and see the
mega threads commenting on them. why do i go back? because where i live
its the ONLY PLACE to buy electronic parts, or shortwave radios for that
matter. the radios i commented on were sangean radios and have a great
reputation. but each has SOMETHING wrong with it from the start. do i
blame the shack or sangean? i asked for opinions on that matter. i
suspect that the shack sells seconds. this is supported by the fact that
sangean wont support a rat shack labelled radio, even if it is theirs. i
was interested in discussing what people thought about the subject.
people are right, there is very little discussion here and a lot of
personal attacks. YOU ARE THE TROLL, JON. do you have a comment on the
substance of my post or do you just want to question my motives?


Jon

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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> troll my ass, JON. who the hell are you? i was commenting on my radio
> collection. i keep buying them because i am trying to get a good one.
> every time i go to the shack i come out angry.

You might want to rethink your approach to whatever you see in the hobby
and find another way to vent.


Ted

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Jon wrote:

I had good luck with my DX-390, except that my cat kicked it into a wall a
number of years back, eventually breaking the piece of metal which allows you
to use the adaptor. Seriously -- I had the receiver on the nighttable, and my
cat kept jumping up onto the table. One time when I tried to shoo her off, she
jumped off, using her hind paws to shove the receiver into the wall. That's
when the problems started with the contact between the adaptor and the internal
circuitry. Using batteries still worked. I didn't want to pay for the
repairs, since I'm on a tight budget, and since I also wanted a smaller
receiver anyway, I decided to buy a DX-375 when I saw it on sale for about 1/3
off. It's worked well, except that it doesn't have as many features as I'd
like. But you get what you pay for. I especially dislike the design flaw
which makes it impossible to have the antenna vertical unless you have the
panel on the back open.

At any rate, my cat died last February at the age of 19, so I don't think I'll
have any problems with the cat destroying my new receiver. :-)

--Ted
fe...@banet.net


Michael B. Tinsley

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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What, pray tell, is a "troll?" I have seen that thrown around here from
time to time. Excuse my ignorance on the latest net slang.

Mike
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mbtins...@mindspring.com
Remove "_nospam" from email address to reply.


Jon <jtec@#cnw.com> wrote in message
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> > i have four radios from rat shack. a dx-100, two dx-390's and one
> > dx-392. there is something wrong with every one of the sangean models.
>

Jim

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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ok, jon. i shouldnt vent. sorry. i dont appreciate being called a troll.
rethink my approach on whatever i see in the hobby? i dont think i
understand what you mean but lets try. i love the gadgetry. the radio
means more than the programs. the craftsmanship, the engineering, the
technology of the radio itself is fascinating. the programs are also
fascinating. i can learn about and experience exotic places that i can
never see any other way. other cultures, other ways of life, another
perspective. the ham guys are also entertaining. its like when i was a
kid and i used to listen to the adults talk around the dinner table. my
dad was a ham. w9klm. i heard shortwave from the day i was born. he
thought that radio was all there was, and he probably was right. and
last of all there is HATE RADIO! people say all manner of outrageous
things right out in public! the ugly underbelly of america on the world
wide airwaves! how i love shortwave radio. so much for so little.......
but........... i still dont understand how all this pertains to me being
a troll, and whats wrong with my approach to the hobby? and what better
way is there to vent anyway? right here where anyone who is interested
can see and participate. and what were YOU doing when you called me a
troll, if it wasnt a little vent of your own?


flyrule

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Sorry to hear about your cat, Ted. We had one for 19 years who
looked like Morris.

Anyway, you could supply external power to your DX-390 by running
the power thru the battery compartment from an AC adaptor. I did
that many years ago with a radio that was powered by a 9-volt
battery. Still have a couple of the pos/neg snap-on thingies for
the battery that fit the pos/neg thingies in the battery
compartment. Got 'em from rat shack.

Your radio is powered by four 1.5 volt D cells in series which
comes out to 6 volts. Correct me if I'm wrong about the
batteries.

The savings from not buying batteries will pay for the AC adaptor
many times over.

Just gotta figure out how to attach the power leads...

Kev

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jimk2000

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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You state that RS is the only place in your area where you can buy
shortwave radios and electronic supplies, Why not buy some other brand
of radios. You obviously have access to the internet. Why not use it to
your advantage. There are several retail radio stores, Universal Radio,
Grove, AES to name a few that have web sites that specialize in most
major brands, Sony, Grundig, Sangean, Lowe, Drake etc. in addition to
selling quality used gear. If you prefer not to order over the internet
they have phone numbers or e-mail addresses to order their catalogs. It
seems to me the amount of money you have spent on those radios you
could have bought a quality shortwave receiver that could last you
years.

Jon

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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> What, pray tell, is a "troll?"

One who posts an outrageous and/or abrasive comment with the specific
intent of creating friction within the group and wasting bandwidth.
Trolling--as in fishing with a lure.

The post from gent with all the bad Radio Shack radios smelled like a troll
because it was so illogical.

The blatantly racist posts in this NG are trolls. Tiny, short guys with
bad skin, really gross teeth and dirty beards who live under bridges are
also trolls.


GrtPmpkin32

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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Against my (usually) better judgement, I'd like to try and defuse this
situation, if I may.
I don't think Jon was announcing outright that you were a troll, not as a
matter of fact. He was saying that your post "smelled like a troll", or words
to that effect... and this does not mean he was accusing you of trolling. He
was making an observation, and it was a bit extreme but not illogical, based on
a few observations of my own.
There are many people on this group who enjoy RS's radios and patronize RS as
often as they need. Yes, there are plenty who decry RS as crap, and I agree
with them most of the time. But to state in a room full of RS 'users' that all
of their radios are crap COULD BE SEEN as trolling, a simple trigger post to
fire things up. Not any proof, just the result of newsgroup experience.
I do not believe Jon ever accused you outright of that.
Also, the post seemed illogical for the fact that you seem to be ever disgusted
with their radios and yet you kept (or still keep) buying from RS. Nothing
wrong with this either, but it seems ON ITS FACE a bit illogical. If you can't
stand them, why keep hitting your head into the wall, is how some see sich
posts. Now, you have a point about continuing the quest for a decent product,
and that's entirely fair and valid.
His statement was not a "troll" of his "own", but a question and an
observation.
Having read your latest post, I'd say your approach to the hobby is very
similar to mine, and a lot of other people into SWLing. Your love for the
"gadgetry" in particular jibes with my likes.
Best of DX to you-
Linus

Leonard Martin

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000
6:46 PM

I understand why he bought so many. I learned the deadly lure of Radio
Shack back in the '70s. It's such fun to go in and ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY
LOOK at obscure electronic equipment like short wave radios. So much
more enjoyable than buying by mail or internet! Thus, it's only a step
from gazing with interest to actually buying something. However, Radio
Shack has long had a reputation of selling shoddy merchandise. This is
confirmed by my experience. Of five things more substantial than little
bubble-wrapped parts I bought there over the years before I got wise,
three were wretched. One was their first digital receiver (DX-300?)
which had such a "crunchable" front end that it really was not necessary
to tune down to the AM band to hear local AM stations! The other was a
turntable that broke in six months, and they tried twice to fix, to no
avail. I think they are this way because, for millions of Americans who
don't know the electronic mail order/Internet outlets, Radio Shack has a
working monopoly on obscure electronic equipment

Since the turntable, I've made it a simple rule of my life, "Only buy
parts at Radio Shack."

Oh yeah, they're batteries are overpriced too.

Len
WD5DNQ


Andy S wrote:
>
> Why buy so many if you don't like them ?, then you speak about getting the
> new model !!!!!
> Spend your dosh on a decent rx and keep it for years.
>
> "Jim" <inagadd...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:6572-38F...@storefull-113.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

> > i have four radios from rat shack. a dx-100, two dx-390's and one
> > dx-392. there is something wrong with every one of the sangean models.

J Rob

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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>Oh yeah, they're batteries are overpriced too.

I quit buying them when they stopped selling single batteries and started
selling packages only. You always wound up with a stray.

Rob Mills ~~~

Michael B. Tinsley

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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. Tiny, short guys with
> bad skin, really gross teeth and dirty beards who live under bridges are
> also trolls.
>

That last one I find most puzzling! :)

Brian Denley

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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Jon <jtec@#cnw.com> wrote in message
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Tiny, short guys with
> bad skin, really gross teeth and dirty beards who live under bridges are
> also trolls.
>

No that's Billy Goat gruff!...Trolls are big! <G>
Brian Denley

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