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Replacement dial lamps for Satellit 650?

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Dan

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Apr 11, 2004, 7:37:40 PM4/11/04
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Has anyone here successfully replaced the front panel bulbs on a 650?
I'm down to one working bulb - the one on the preselector dial.

I ordered some bulbs from Mouser, and they are the correct size. But
the base is just a tad too wide and they will not fit into the sockets.
So I'm thinking of replacing the sockets. But I thought I'd ask here
first if anyone knows a source of true replacement bulbs.

According to this page:

http://www.geocities.com/grundig_satellit/

they are OSRAM bulbs, 6-7 volt. Three of them are rated at 30ma, and
one is rated at 80ma. The 30ma bulbs are Osram #2306. I don't know
the number of the 80ma bulb.

The bulbs I got from Mouser are Chicago Miniature Incandescent bulbs,
6.3V and 20ma. These were the closest I could find.

Any ideas?

Dan

Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440,
Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400
Tecsun PL-230 (YB550PE), Kaito KA1102
Hallicraters S-120 (1962)
Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937)
E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936)

Mark S. Holden

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Apr 11, 2004, 7:51:03 PM4/11/04
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Dan wrote:
> Has anyone here successfully replaced the front panel bulbs on a 650?
> I'm down to one working bulb - the one on the preselector dial.
>
> I ordered some bulbs from Mouser, and they are the correct size. But
> the base is just a tad too wide and they will not fit into the sockets.
> So I'm thinking of replacing the sockets. But I thought I'd ask here
> first if anyone knows a source of true replacement bulbs.
>
> According to this page:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/grundig_satellit/
>
> they are OSRAM bulbs, 6-7 volt. Three of them are rated at 30ma, and
> one is rated at 80ma. The 30ma bulbs are Osram #2306. I don't know
> the number of the 80ma bulb.
>
> The bulbs I got from Mouser are Chicago Miniature Incandescent bulbs,
> 6.3V and 20ma. These were the closest I could find.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Dan
>

Have you considered white LED's?

If you're concerned about keeping it original for collector purposes
it's a bad idea, but they'll last a very long time.

Dan

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Apr 11, 2004, 7:56:58 PM4/11/04
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In article <2cOdnT3mb5H...@adelphia.com>,

"Mark S. Holden" <ma...@bmas.org> wrote:

> Have you considered white LED's?
>
> If you're concerned about keeping it original for collector purposes
> it's a bad idea, but they'll last a very long time.

No, I hadn't thought of that. I'm not really concerned about keeping
it "original". I'd rather have it working!

I'll look into LEDs. Thanks for the suggestion.

starman

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Apr 11, 2004, 10:08:02 PM4/11/04
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Dan wrote:
>
> In article <2cOdnT3mb5H...@adelphia.com>,
> "Mark S. Holden" <ma...@bmas.org> wrote:
>
> > Have you considered white LED's?
> >
> > If you're concerned about keeping it original for collector purposes
> > it's a bad idea, but they'll last a very long time.
>
> No, I hadn't thought of that. I'm not really concerned about keeping
> it "original". I'd rather have it working!
>
> I'll look into LEDs. Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Dan

Remember that you will have to add a series resistor to limit the
current in each LED, otherwise they won't last long. Use Ohms law to
calculate the resistor value based on the source voltage and the
voltage/current ratings of the LED. I replaced the fifty-six (no typo!)
green LED's in my R8B display with just four bright white ones. The
display now looks blue-green with white charecters. The R8 was designed
before there were bright LED's, so Drake had to use an array of many
dozens of less bright ones to backlight the LCD display.


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Dan

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Apr 11, 2004, 11:11:21 PM4/11/04
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In article <4079FA02...@tech.net>, starman <sta...@tech.net>
wrote:

> Remember that you will have to add a series resistor to limit the
> current in each LED, otherwise they won't last long. Use Ohms law to
> calculate the resistor value based on the source voltage and the
> voltage/current ratings of the LED. I replaced the fifty-six (no typo!)
> green LED's in my R8B display with just four bright white ones. The
> display now looks blue-green with white charecters. The R8 was designed
> before there were bright LED's, so Drake had to use an array of many
> dozens of less bright ones to backlight the LCD display.

I *think* I might have found some original lamps for a decent price. I
have emailed them, and will report my findings.

Burr

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Apr 11, 2004, 11:40:19 PM4/11/04
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Wait for Brenda Ann, she put some in my radio.

Burr

T Breslin

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Apr 12, 2004, 12:17:51 AM4/12/04
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You can purchase replacement bulbs at:

BulbDirect.com

Part Number: 0084-WI

Description:

84 01-I2 EIKO 6.3v .04A

I've put them in. They work. $.85 a piece

Dan

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Apr 12, 2004, 8:15:27 AM4/12/04
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In article <126k705hl1416itn0...@4ax.com>,
T Breslin <TBresl...@aol.com> wrote:


> You can purchase replacement bulbs at:
>
> BulbDirect.com
>
> Part Number: 0084-WI
>
> Description:
>
> 84 01-I2 EIKO 6.3v .04A
>
> I've put them in. They work. $.85 a piece

Are you sure of those numbers? None of these numbers appear in their
lists. I searched on 0084-WI, 84 01-I2, EIKO, etc.

Thanks

T Breslin

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Apr 12, 2004, 1:49:05 PM4/12/04
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-------------------------

http://www.miniaturelamps.com/en-us/dept_26.html

Look for BULB LAMP P/N "84"

Looks the same.


T Breslin

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Apr 12, 2004, 1:42:28 PM4/12/04
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:15:27 -0400, Dan <m...@here.net> wrote:


Looks like bulbdirect may has changed their site. Can't find Eiko
lamps there using search. I'm looking at my receipt so I know I
purchased them there. Anyway, the manufacturer site is:

http://www.eiko-ltd.com/eiko/item.asp?qid=166&lid=84

That's th actual bulb on that page. It fits. You can probably find
it at Mouser or DigiKey.

Hope that helps. I'll keep looking and post if I find it. Regards

DK

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Apr 12, 2004, 3:35:50 PM4/12/04
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I replaced the dial bulb with a 8 V / 80 mA, the scale and LED ones with 12
V 80 mA ones a long time ago ... and it works splendid. They are available
in Europe at www.conrad.de & www.conrad.fr .
All the best from Normandy / France

D. KREMP
49:03:31N / 1:26:14W - Normandy / France
dominique dot kremp at wanadoo dot fr

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Dan

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Apr 12, 2004, 6:37:08 PM4/12/04
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In article <34ll709vj8f6srekq...@4ax.com>,
T Breslin <TBresl...@aol.com> wrote:

Yeah, that number is valid. A search turns up Atlanta Light Bulbs as
having them for $1 each, unfortunately they have a $35 minimum order.
I'm going to try the local "Bulb Depot" here in town, I just assumed
they wouldn't have it.

If that fails, I have confirmed via email that MTS in Texas has the
original OSRAM bulbs for $2 each, with a $15 minimum. I think they also
have the *other* bulb (for the preselector dial) that is a higher
wattage bulb. They have the OSRAM 2306 and the 2321. They are at:

http://www.mtsmicroscopes.com/

Click on the Bulbs link.

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