Was wondering what you all thought about HD Radio
RobertStruble
on AM, but you guys are really learned, so I was hoping to get some
opinions about HD Radio. Sorry, that my greed gets in the way of
common sense, and all of radio's listening audience, but Vicki is very
high-maintenance. I hope that you all were not offended by my comment
that "half the AMs could disappear, and no one would notice".
Telamon
<10f62eb7-66ef-4dca...@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
RobertStruble <robertstru...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, Robert I have several questions. Why is this technology being
implemented at all? IBOC does not use enough bandwidth to have better
sound than analog and the technology as implemented has very poor
reliability or service not to mention the interference issues with
other stations be it an analog or digital broadcast. This poor service
and lack of significant improvement over analog will eventually kill
IBOC because who in their right mind is going to buy a new radio that
supports this problematic scheme? Seems to me that all the current
problems were easily forecasted so why was it implemented to begin
with?
1. Poor audio quality due to the use of digital compression in a bid to
overcome the limited bandwidth.
2. Poor service again due to the limited bandwidth.
3. Interference issues daytime and nighttime.
4. The cost to broadcasters of upgrading their transmitters and antenna
systems and the cost to listeners that have to purchase new radios that
as portables will generate more heat and have shorter battery life.
5. Phase related reception problems with mobile receivers that will
never be overcome.
It's all bad.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Johnny Borborigmi
<robertstru...@yahoo.com> said:
I don't know much about HD radio but if it has far less commercials I
am ALL FOR IT.
I have XM sat. radio and LOVE IT.
I am FUCKING SICK OF COMMERCIALS.
Telamon
Johnny Borborigmi <gr...@tummy.com> wrote:
You are not going to like HD then.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
Sigh...more idiocy from Tele
Most HD music channels have not commercials you idiot!
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
Same BS from you.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> In article <BMudnavWmem5CrLV...@comcast.com>,
> "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
>> > In article <482f82ff$0$31765$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
>> > Johnny Borborigmi <gr...@tummy.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2008-05-17 18:00:30 -0400, RobertStruble
>> >> <robertstru...@yahoo.com> said:
>> >>
>> >> > Sorry, I know that IBOC is trashing the broadcast bands, especially
>> >> > on AM, but you guys are really learned, so I was hoping to get some
>> >> > opinions about HD Radio. Sorry, that my greed gets in the way of
>> >> > common sense, and all of radio's listening audience, but Vicki is
>> >> > very
>> >> > high-maintenance. I hope that you all were not offended by my
>> >> > comment
>> >> > that "half the AMs could disappear, and no one would notice".
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I don't know much about HD radio but if it has far less commercials I
>> >> am ALL FOR IT.
>> >> I have XM sat. radio and LOVE IT.
>> >>
>> >> I am FUCKING SICK OF COMMERCIALS.
>> >
>> > You are not going to like HD then.
>>
>> Sigh...more idiocy from Tele
>>
>
> Same BS from you.
More idiocy from the village idiot...who deosn't know what he's talking
about.
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
Yeah I do but you don't.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
You've posted more incorrect information here as fact than anyone I know.
You're the newsgroup idiot.
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
You haven't posted anything on topic yet moron.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
The topic is telamon, the shortwave newsgroup idiot.
I think I've posted a lot on topic.
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > In article <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Hey you finally got my handle right congratulations.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Brenda Ann
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:BMudnavWmem5CrLV...@comcast.com...
Nearly 100% of AM HD stations have commercials. And since the OP seemed to
be referring primarily to AM HD...
Telamon
"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
That's correct on all counts Brenda.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
Sorry to expose your idiocy again Telahmun
MOST of the HD channels are on FM...therefore most of the HD channels
don't have commercials.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
And your designation too! The shortwave newsgroup idiot!
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
You have a small reading comprehension problem? OK we can work with that.
Read the above thread again.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > In article <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
Nope, I'm saving that one news group moron.
Well you failed but at least you finally tried. Better than nothing.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
cheley_b...@live.com
wrote:
HD Radio may become popular when it's sold in bins at remainder
stores;
- Possibly good for parts, Cabinets for speakers,
spare electronics,
etc.
RHF
= S N I P =
- Nearly 100% of AM HD stations have commercials.
- And since the OP seemed to be referring primarily to AM HD...
BAD,
Nearly Yes -but- Technically Not 100% since there are
the National Public Radio (NPR) Station and the so-called
Public Radio Stations -aka- Non-Commercial Radio
Stations as a 'group' and they are as a group part of the
Early Adapters of IBOC and FM "HD" Radio with the
speciffic intent to be HD-2 Second Audio Channel
Broardcasters to better serve 'their' Listeners.
http://www.kpbs.org/radio/myrland_digital_radio
* NPR Radio Station List
http://www.npr.org/stations/pdf/nprstations.pdf
Point-of-Fact - KOAL-AM 550 kHz in Portland, Oregon
is a "Commercial Free" National Public Radio Station.
Here are a few more "Commercial Free" National
Public Radio Stations (NPR) on the AM Radio Band
From the NPR Radio Station List
http://www.npr.org/stations/pdf/nprstations.pdf
* WILL-AM 580 kHz from the UOI in Urbana, IL
* WNYC-AM 820 kHz New York Public Radio
* WNED-AM 970 kHz in Buffalo NY
* WGVU-AM 850 kHz in Muskegon, MI
* WOUB-AM 1340 kHz in Athens, OH
* WXXI-AM 1370 kHz in Rochester, NY
* WSUI-AM 910 kHz in Iowa City, IA
* KOPT-AM 1600 kHz in Eugene, OR
Note - The State of Alaska has 8 NPR AM Radio Stations.
Remember the Primary Intent of IBOC and "HD" Radio
is it use and application in the FM Radio Band; and
Public Radio Stations are a major broadcaster on the
FM Radio Band.
-but- Even on a Non-Commercial Public Radio Station
you will still hear about there 'corporate underwriters'.
.
.
the truth is out-there - riding on a radio-wave ~ RHF
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-band_on-channel
.
Find-Out-for-Yourself - Google Search Results :
HD-Radio - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
Read-the-News-for-Yourself Google News Results :
HD-Radio - http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
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RobertStruble
> On May 17, 8:23�pm, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
>
> = S N I P =
>
> - Nearly 100% of AM HD stations have commercials.
> - And since the OP seemed to be referring primarily to AM HD...
>
> BAD,
>
> Nearly Yes -but- Technically Not 100% since there are
> the National Public Radio (NPR) Station and the so-called
> Public Radio Stations -aka- Non-Commercial Radio
> Stations as a 'group' and they are as a group part of the
> Early Adapters of IBOC and FM "HD" Radio with the
> speciffic intent to be HD-2 Second Audio Channel
> * NPR Radio Station Listhttp://www.npr.org/stations/pdf/nprstations.pdf
>
> Point-of-Fact - KOAL-AM 550 kHz in Portland, Oregon
> is a "Commercial Free" National Public Radio Station.
>
> Here are a few more "Commercial Free" National
> Public Radio Stations (NPR) on the AM Radio Band
> * WILL-AM 580 kHz from the UOI in Urbana, IL
> * WNYC-AM 820 kHz New York Public Radio
> * WNED-AM 970 kHz in Buffalo NY
> * WGVU-AM 850 kHz in Muskegon, MI
> * WOUB-AM 1340 kHz in Athens, OH
> * WXXI-AM 1370 kHz in Rochester, NY
> * WSUI-AM 910 kHz in Iowa City, IA
> * KOPT-AM 1600 kHz in Eugene, OR
> Note - The State of Alaska has 8 NPR AM Radio Stations.
>
> Remember the Primary Intent of IBOC and "HD" Radio
> is it use and application in the FM Radio Band; and
> Public Radio Stations are a major broadcaster on the
> FM Radio Band.
>
> -but- Even on a Non-Commercial Public Radio Station
> you will still hear about there 'corporate underwriters'.
> �.
> �.
> the truth is out-there - riding on a radio-wave ~ RHF
> �.
> �.
> Find-Out-for-Yourself - Google Search Results :
> �.
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"Nearly Yes -but- Technically Not 100% since there are
the National Public Radio (NPR) Station and the so-called
Public Radio Stations -aka- Non-Commercial Radio
Stations as a 'group' and they are as a group part of the
Early Adapters of IBOC and FM "HD" Radio with the
speciffic intent to be HD-2 Second Audio Channel
Broardcasters to better serve 'their' Listeners. "
"HD Radio: Will More Awareness Translate To Sales?"
"Unfortunately, Ibiquity does not: Yes, they have gotten many radio
stations to make the $100,000 or so investment required to add HD
Radio broadcasting, but what the leave out of their PR spin is that
MANY of these stations were Public Radio/NPR stations that had their
equipment paid for by special funding from Congress. So tell me,
senior executives from, say, Sony, Mitsubishi, Best Buy, etc.: How do
you feel about Ibiquity''s lobbyists getting US taxpayers to pick up
the tab for many of their transmitter sales? Wouldn''t it be great if
your lobbyists could get Congress to mandate that US taxpayers be
required to buy your products, too? Do you even slightly care?
Ibiquity will take their money and run, and HD Radio will join a long
list of failed formats, like Dolby FM radio, Elcassete, mini disk (in
the US), etc."
"HD Radio: Fun with Math"
"I think it is fair to say that the audiophile community, those people
who take their FM seriously, is dead set AGAINST HDRadio. Not only do
most people never intend to buy a radio, unless as a plaything for
early adopters and collectors, but are aghast at the FCC for even
allowing IBOC to thrash up the FM bandwidth. Plus, people with enough
technical savvy to read the specs are insulted by the false claims of
'CD sound quality' or even 'near-CD sound quality'. These are
transparent marketing hype, beyond mean puffery. Sorry, but HDRadio
has sworn enemies. This goes beyond just business but has political
reprecussions for FCC and for Congress. This has the whiff of
political scandal - and I'm a rock-ribbed Republican! The Corporation
for Public Broadcasting is especially vulnerable. My advice for any
businessman is to avoid any association with HDRadio."
http://www.hear2.com/2006/06/hd_radio_fun_wi.html
Most of my HD conversions were done by NPR stations, who rippped off
Congress - I am really worried about Senator Dingell's investigation
of that crook Kevin Martin. Martin promised to keep his mouth shut,
after we paid him off.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
No, I think everyone sees you for the nincompoop you are...
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
OK Ron, the thread is about AM. It is written several times above so I
don't know how you can miss it.
Now if you want to talk about FM HD it is no different from analog FM.
It has the same commercials and the same programming. These days even
public radio has commercials along with their beg-a-thons.
And your sentence is a non sequitur. Maybe you can further explain that
logic so I can understand it.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-5...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > In article <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
I don't think so but you have demonstrated a huge knowledge deficit on
IBOC and you still want to argue about it so your posts are pointless.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
<ff6ef242-39d0-4c00...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Well news group retard I listen to NPR and I hear commercials all the
time. You know the this program is brought to you by the $$$$
corporation. Then after corporate money and the government grants they
get from our tax dollars they beg for more money.
By the way I have the commercial rights to this news group so your
copyright notice is null and void.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
<51d8e45d-57ff-4ab1...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
RobertStruble <robertstru...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 18, 10:17?am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > ?.
> > ?.
> > the truth is out-there - riding on a radio-wave ~ RHF
> > ?.
> > - - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - -
> > -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-band_on-channel
> > ?.
> > Find-Out-for-Yourself - Google Search Results :
> > HD-Radio -http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
> > ?.
> > Read-the-News-for-Yourself Google News Results :
> > HD-Radio -http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
> > ?.
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > CopyRight ? RHF {Radio High Frequency} All Rights Reserved.
> > ?.
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> > ?.
Impressive and lucid post.
Don't expect RHF to make any sense.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
No, the thread is about commercials.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Well, not evberyone is a nutball DX-er in Ventura....so you can stop with
the one-note tune.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Those are called underwriter announcements you dope.
RHF
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <lS_Xj.1707$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Radio Ron" <dew1pk...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:telamon_spamshield-4...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > > In article <z46dnXCC6eknUbLVnZ2dnUVZ_s_in...@comcast.com>,
> > > "Radio Ron" <dew1pk...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> > >>news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> > >> ..
> > >> > In article <uPednUBgi7ulPLLVnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@giganews.com>,
> > >> > "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> "Radio Ron" <dew1pk...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>news:BMudnavWmem5CrLV...@comcast.com...
>
> > >> >> > "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> > >> >> > message
> > >> >> >news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy
> > >> >> > .ne
> > >> >> > t..
> > >> >> > .
> > >> >> >> Johnny Borborigmi <gr...@tummy.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >>> On 2008-05-17 18:00:30 -0400, RobertStruble
- Now if you want to talk about FM HD it is no different
- from analog FM.
- It has the same commercials and the same programming.
-
- These days even public radio has commercials
Telamon - liar, Liar. LIAR ! - Public Radio Is Commercial Free*
* Legally there are NO Commercials [.]
FWIW - The FCC 'polices' Non-Commercial Radio Stations
to ensure their Non-Comercial status.
- along with their beg-a-thons.
What You call Beg-a-thons -are- In-Fact Listener Support :
Local Community Support and Underwriting :
Which puts the "Public" in Public Broadcasting.
-
- And your sentence is a non sequitur.
- Maybe you can further explain that logic so I can understand it.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-
Teli -wrt- 'non sequitur'
Telamon - "Non" and "Sequitur" are Your Middle and Last Names
.
RHF
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <ff6ef242-39d0-4c00-bc57-15bec2cd4...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> > .
> > Read-the-News-for-Yourself Google News Results :
> > .
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > CopyRight © RHF {Radio High Frequency} All Rights Reserved.
> > .
> > Fair Use Notice : This Entire Message in Part or Entirety
> > may be Copied and Reposted on/in All Media : Provided
> > the Source the "Rec.Radio.Shortwave" Newsgroup and
> > the Author RHF {Radio High Frequency} are both identified.
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > .
- Well news group retard I listen to NPR and
- I hear commercials all the time.
- You know the this program is brought to you
- by the $$$$ corporation.
- Then after corporate money and the government
- grants they get from our tax dollars
Telamon - liar, Liar. LIAR ! - Public Radio Is Commercial Free*
* Legally there are NO Commercials [.]
FWIW - The FCC 'polices' Non-Commercial Radio Stations
to ensure their Non-Comercial status.
- they beg for more money.
What You call 'beg-for-more-money' -is- In-Fact Legally Required
Listener Support : Local Community Support and Underwriting :
Which puts the "Public" in Public Broadcasting.
- By the way I have the commercial rights to this news group
- so your copyright notice is null and void.
Teli -wrt- 'null and void'
Telamon - "Null" and "Void" are Your Middle and Last Names
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-
Telamon
<24e93b27-ebbd-493d...@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Teli -wrt- 'non sequitur'
>
> Telamon - "Non" and "Sequitur" are Your Middle and Last Names
> .
If they are mentioning private corporations names as supplying money for
the programming how is that different than a paid commercial? It is just
legal semantics. Since you are the news group retard I would not expect
you to understand that.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
At least you have a sense of humor.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <lS_Xj.1708$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-5...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr03.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
Well see you also got that wrong. I'm not a DX'er.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
The very first word used is CopyRight silly.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
That seems to be your one-note complaint....over and over again....
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
I have Teliemom to keep me chuckling....with his nonsense.
dave
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> I don't think so but you have demonstrated a huge knowledge deficit on
>> IBOC and you still want to argue about it so your posts are pointless.
>
> Well, not evberyone is a nutball DX-er in Ventura....so you can stop with
> the one-note tune.
>
Some of us are nutball DXers in Santa Clarita.
dave
Telamon
<a0798e35-0e2b-4987...@y18g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
And how is our news group retard doing today?
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <g0q4a3$kf8$2...@aioe.org>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1708$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-5...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr03.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <BMudnavWmem5CrLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-88E47B.18191217052008@newsclstr03
I'm a program listener not a DX'er.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
Why the stuff you write is funnier.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
I never hear the word copyright on NPR dude...
But I do hear underwriter announcements
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
I would asume you can get the programs on these stations without too much
difficulty...IBOC and all.
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/locate?select=city&city=ventura&state=CA&sid=&x=0&y=0
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
You must be from the funny farm.
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <g0q6h6$s7l$1...@aioe.org>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <g0q4a3$kf8$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.c
> >> >> om.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1708$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-5...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr03.ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-84D6BA.19484117052008@newsclstr03
Yes that is a good site.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
<telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
Telamon <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <g0q6h7$s7l$2...@aioe.org>,
> "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com..
> > .
> > > In article <g0q4a2$kf8$1...@aioe.org>,
> > > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> > >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.co
> > >> m.
> > >> ..
> > >> > In article <lS_Xj.1707$BL6...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> > >> >> message
> > >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-4...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy
> > >> >> .n
> > >> >> et.
> > >> >> ..
> > >> >> > In article <z46dnXCC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> > >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> > >> >> >> message
> > >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prod
> > >> >> >> ig
> > >> >> >> y.n
> > >> >> >> et.
> > >> >> >> ..
Well the stuff I write is intentionally funnier.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <g0q6h7$s7l$2...@aioe.org>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <g0q4a2$kf8$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.c
> >> >> om.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1707$BL6...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-4...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
Nope, Ventura CA. not far from the beach.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
I posted about this "CopyRight © RHF {Radio High Frequency} All Rights
Reserved."
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
WOw...a response without any name calling?
Maybe there's hope for this newsgroup after all!
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
I'm glad you keep youself entertained.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
I was referring to: "I listen to NPR and I hear commercials all the time."
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > In article <4C1Yj.485$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <g0q6h6$s7l$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.c
> >> >> om.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <g0q4a3$kf8$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1708$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-5...@newsclstr03.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F...@newsclstr03.ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C5DFCE.20030117052008@newsclstr03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-84D6BA.19484117052008@newsclst
You made an intelligent on topic post. What else would you expect?
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Maybe spend some more time on the beach under the sun...and less time on the
computer...?
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
Well I do. I hear it all the time on my local NPR stations.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <z46dnXCC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <uPednUBgi7ulPLLV...@giganews.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:BMudnavWmem5CrLV...@comcast.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > news:telamon_spamshield-88E47B.18191217052008@newsclstr03.
I had some time on the beach this morning.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Brenda Ann
"RobertStruble" <robertstru...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:51d8e45d-57ff-4ab1...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 18, 10:17?am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On May 17, 8:23?pm, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
>
> = S N I P =
>
> - Nearly 100% of AM HD stations have commercials.
> - And since the OP seemed to be referring primarily to AM HD...
>
> BAD,
>
> Nearly Yes -but- Technically Not 100% since there are
> the National Public Radio (NPR) Station and the so-called
> Public Radio Stations -aka- Non-Commercial Radio
> Stations as a 'group' and they are as a group part of the
> Early Adapters of IBOC and FM "HD" Radio with the
> speciffic intent to be HD-2 Second Audio Channel
> Broardcasters to better serve 'their'
> * NPR Radio Station Listhttp://www.npr.org/stations/pdf/nprstations.pdf
>
> Point-of-Fact - KOAL-AM 550 kHz in Portland, Oregon
> is a "Commercial Free" National Public Radio Station.
>
> Here are a few more "Commercial Free" National
> Public Radio Stations (NPR) on the AM Radio Band
> From the NPR Radio Station
> * WILL-AM 580 kHz from the UOI in Urbana, IL
> * WNYC-AM 820 kHz New York Public Radio
> * WNED-AM 970 kHz in Buffalo NY
> * WGVU-AM 850 kHz in Muskegon, MI
> * WOUB-AM 1340 kHz in Athens, OH
> * WXXI-AM 1370 kHz in Rochester, NY
> * WSUI-AM 910 kHz in Iowa City, IA
> * KOPT-AM 1600 kHz in Eugene, OR
> Note - The State of Alaska has 8 NPR AM Radio Stations.
>
I'm very aware of public broadcasting stations on the AM band. Portland
proper has one: KBPS 1450.
I don't know where you got your information. KOAL is in Price, Utah, and on
750 KHz, and is a commercial talker.
The only 550 in Oregon is indeed a part of the OEPBS network, but is not in
Portland, and cannot even be heard easily in Portland. It is located in
Corvallis, home of Oregon State University, which is between Salem and
Eugene.
1600 in Eugene IS now a part of OEPBS, but it's call is KOPB, not KOPT.
This station used to be a commercial station, back when I used to do a lot
of DX from the Portland area. At the time it was called KASH. That call
has since moved to an FM in Alaska.
On a related trivia note, a one time commercial TV station in Salem, then
KVDO, on Channel 3 was purchased by OEPBS and moved to Bend, OR, and given
the call KOAB-TV.
tom k in L.A.
and the other is the Sony tabletop hd radio. The sangean is great--
paired with the ccrane fm reflect antenna i get excellent reception in
a midtown manhattan steel and glass midrise apartment building. CD
101.9 hd2 is great, 104.3 hd1 and 2 are great (2 is the deep cuts), to
name just a couple. AM HD is really cool -- 710 am sounds like FM.
880 wcbs is impossible to receive (even regular signal in my apt).
1010 WINS is going HD AM later this month.
The Sony had a noisy power supply so I sent it back-- replacement/
repair is on the way. The Sangean receiver has been flawless. I
really like the extra content on HD radio. Almost sounds like the
jocks are programming the extra HD feeds for now, which is a blast.
RHF
-
- I have 2 hd radios...one is a Sangean receiver hooked
- into my stereo and the other is the Sony tabletop hd radio.
- The sangean is great-- paired with the ccrane fm reflect
- antenna i get excellent reception in a midtown manhattan
- steel and glass midrise apartment building.
- CD 101.9 hd2 is great, 104.3 hd1 and 2 are great
- (2 is the deep cuts), to name just a couple.
-
- AM HD is really cool -- 710 am sounds like FM.
- 880 wcbs is impossible to receive
- (even regular signal in my apt).
- 1010 WINS is going HD AM later this month.
-
- The Sony had a noisy power supply so I sent it back
- - replacement/ repair is on the way.
-
- The Sangean receiver has been flawless. I really like
- the extra content on HD radio. Almost sounds like the
- jocks are programming the extra HD feeds for now,
- which is a blast.
-
Tom-K in L.A.,
You are a Shinning Example of a Satisfied Free Over-the-Air
Audio Consumer : Who makes-up the Two-Sigma segment
of the US Population that the 'concept' of IBOC and HD Radio
was sold-on to the FCC.
Two-Sigma -aka- The Vast Majority {~95%} - With the full
understanding that some Radio Listeners will Not Be Served.
Basically the same 'criteria' that present day Analog Radio
Listeners have had to deal with : You can't hear everything
and you can't always hear what you want :
So Hear What You Can - When You Can :
Can It All . . . It's Only Radio !
Whether 'we' here as AM/MW Radio DXers like it or not :
In the long run HD-Radio will serve the American Audio
Consumer : Who is a regular Listener of Free Over-the-Air
AM & FM Radio.
HD-Radio will meet the 'needs' of the "Vast Majority" of
the American Audio Consumers : Who Choose HD-Radio.
You also point out one of HD-Radio major problems :
quality e-q-u-i-p-m-e-n-t .
The 'other' on going problem is the HD-Radio Signal Delivery.
The 1% Solution Ain't No Solution At All : with a Bump to
4% the First in a Series of Digital Power 'adjustments' over
several Years { ~ Decade} toward the Full Transition to
All Digital AM & FM HD-Radio with the end of all Analog
AM & FM Radio Broadcasting.
The FCC 'claims' that they will let the Market Place "Decide"
* The Fact-Is that the Market Place is the Radio Broadcasters
and Their Advertisers : Not the Radio {Consuming} Listeners.
* Presently Analog Radio is Paying the Bills and HD {Digital}
Radio -is- a "Cost".
* In the Future there will come a "Time" when HD {Digital}
Radio is Paying the Bills and Analog Radio -is- a "Cost".
* When That "Time" Comes : The Radio Broadcasters and
Their Advertisers will 'petition' the FCC to drop the imposed
Cost of continued Analog Radio Broadcasting and the FCC
will readily agree : Since by doing so the FCC would itself
eliminate an Administrative Function and achieve a Cost
Saving for the Government.
Telamon
<26a700c9-ccc2-4a79...@k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
< SNIP >
And you are a shining example of a news group retard.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Well, I haven't been expecting much from you.
I was hoping that not everyone has to either agree with Telemon....or be
subjected to name calling.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Sounds good! Reality is always a good thing....
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Non-Comm's are forbidden from having commercials...that's why they have
underwriter announcements.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
And this is an example of an on-topic post?
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > In article <tM1Yj.492$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <4C1Yj.485$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.c
> >> >> om.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <g0q6h6$s7l$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <g0q4a3$kf8$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1708$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-5...@newsclstr03.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F4DC8F.20132417052008@newsclstr03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C5DFCE.20030117052008@newsclst
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-84D6BA.19484117052008@newsc
The smart people would agree with me.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-E...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net...
> > In article <g0qa3q$bms$1...@aioe.org>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <4C1Yj.486$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.c
> >> >> om.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <g0q6h7$s7l$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr02.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <g0q4a2$kf8$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1707$BL6...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-4...@newsclstr03.news.
It's all I usually deal with present company excluded.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
Yeah. What RHF posted is baseless.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
And reality is that there is no difference.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Well, you'll never know, becuase you crap over anyone who disagrees with
you.
Not to mention calling people very non-pc names.....
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Check with a lawyer....there is.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Again, you set yourself up to be the arbiter of others....thats what makesz
newsgroups disintegrate.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Looks like you spend too much time name-calling....and not enough time on
the beach.
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-2...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <g0qnbc$q5b$3...@aioe.org>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <tM1Yj.492$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <4C1Yj.485$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr02.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <g0q6h6$s7l$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <g0q4a3$kf8$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1708$BL6....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-5...@newsclstr03.ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A0709D.20223317052008@newsclstr03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F4DC8F.20132417052008@newsclst
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C5DFCE.20030117052008@newsc
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lst
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-84D6BA.19484117052008@ne
That's no true. An opinion based if fact can differ from mine and I
would think nothing wrong with it. The news group retard comes along
with BS every day. He can't back it up the statements of fact he makes
or his conjecture based on misunderstandings. Doesn't matter how many
time you point it out to him tomorrow he reposts the same crap.
Go ahead and find out for yourself.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
What do you call "retard" and "moron"?
If you ever had a retarded family member, you would know this is an
offensive name.
> Doesn't matter how many
> time you point it out to him tomorrow he reposts the same crap.
There is no law against being dumb.
I think the same can be said for you. Name calling over and over again.
Part of using usenet is the 'ignore' feature. You read what you want to
read and ignore the rest.
Most news readers have 'twit' filters.
> An opinion based if fact can differ from mine and I
> would think nothing wrong with it. The news group retard comes along
> with BS every day. He can't back it up the statements of fact he makes
> or his conjecture based on misunderstandings. Doesn't matter how many
> time you point it out to him tomorrow he reposts the same crap.
Welcome to usenet.
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <g0qnbb$q5b$2...@aioe.org>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-E...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <g0qa3q$bms$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <4C1Yj.486$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <g0q6h7$s7l$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr02.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <g0q4a2$kf8$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1707$BL6...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-4...@newsclstr03.ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <z46dnXCC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-8628C9.20285717052008@newsclstr03
I spent several hours on the beach today, did you?
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
Hey knock yourself out then. You deal with the RHF bull crap and we will
see how you do with it.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Not the time of year for the beach in Wisconsin.
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-4...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <bi5Yj.5786$r82....@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-7...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <g0q9ei$8qp$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <pw1Yj.484$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-1...@newsclstr02.news.prodig
Sorry bud, a private corporation pays and gets mentioned as supporting
the program. You think that's done for altruistic reasons? If it was
their name and what they do or manufacture would not be mentioned. They
want to be thought well of so you will buy the product or service. This
is very transparent and if you don't see it I don't hold much hope for
you. I don't care about the legalese.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <_M6Yj.4842$nW2....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-2...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <g0qnbc$q5b$3...@aioe.org>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <tM1Yj.492$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <4C1Yj.485$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr02.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <g0q6h6$s7l$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-579A77.00003418052008@newsclstr03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A0709D.20223317052008@newsclst
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <7bydnR4ER_DMArLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F4DC8F.20132417052008@newsc
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lst
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <QrOdnWw0O8qFALLV...@comcast.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C5DFCE.20030117052008@ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wsc
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lst
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <DvqdnTHfDrQ_B7LV...@comcast.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>news:telamon_spamshield-84D6BA.19484117052008@
< SNIP >
The news group has one named RHF that has become offensive enough to
drive off most of the technical people that used to post here. There
used to be some good conversations here but retard drove them off.
You deal with him and we will see how that works out. Go for it Ron.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
easy.....'plonk!'
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
> > In article <_M6Yj.4844$nW2...@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
> >> ..
> >> > In article <g0qnbb$q5b$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-E...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
> >> >> et.
> >> >> ..
> >> >> > In article <g0qa3q$bms$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
> >> >> >> y.n
> >> >> >> et.
> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> > In article <4C1Yj.486$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.news.pro
> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> > In article <g0q6h7$s7l$2...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr02.news.
> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <g0q4a2$kf8$1...@aioe.org>,
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C...@newsclstr02.ne
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.c
> >> >> >> >> >> >> om.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article <lS_Xj.1707$BL6...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-4E04B5.23580217052008@newsclstr03
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Telamon"
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > news:telamon_spamshield-88E47B.18191217052008@new
I can see you are probably not wearing shorts there.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
"Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
That only works if everyone else does that. Let's say someone subscribes
to the news group and asks a question. You answer it giving some good
advice and Retard post some of his bull crap. Now what is the OP going
to believe you or Retard?
Well you have to correct the news group retard or the OP gets bad
advice. How many times do you think you will have to do that? The answer
is every time.
So go for it Ron.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Well, the truth always wins out.
> Well you have to correct the news group retard or the OP gets bad
> advice.
Like most things on the internet, it's the resp of the user to distinguish
bad information from good information.
WRT medical information, there is a lot of good stuff...there are a lot of
quack stuff too.
People who use the internet have to be able to distinguish sources.
I would assume if you know more...and are a better authority on the subject,
your information will win out.
> How many times do you think you will have to do that? The answer
> is every time.
Nope...once or twice, then you have to let your information stand for
itself.
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
Hardly..... ;-)
Radio Ron
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> In article <G07Yj.4849$nW2....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:telamon_spamshield-3...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
>> > In article <_M6Yj.4842$nW2....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>,
>> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:telamon_spamshield-2...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com.
>> >> ..
>> >> > In article <g0qnbc$q5b$3...@aioe.org>,
>> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-8...@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.n
>> >> >> et.
>> >> >> ..
>> >> >> > In article <tM1Yj.492$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
>> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-D...@newsclstr03.news.prodig
>> >> >> >> et.
>> >> >> >> ..
>> >> >> >> > In article <4C1Yj.485$Q57...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
>> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-B...@newsclstr02.news.pro
>> >> >> >> >> y.c
>> >> >> >> >> om.
>> >> >> >> >> ..
>> >> >> >> >> > In article <g0q6h6$s7l$1...@aioe.org>,
>> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > <z46dnXGC6eknUbLV...@comcast.com>,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-A0709D.20223317052008@newsclst
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-F4DC8F.20132417052008@newsc
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:telamon_spamshield-C5DFCE.20030117052008@ne
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lst
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> r03
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> .ne
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ws.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> pro
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> dig
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> y.n
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> et.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ..
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In article
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Radio Ron" <dew1...@sneakemail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Telamon"
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>news:telamon_spamshield-84D6BA.19484117052008@
>
> The news group has one named RHF that has become offensive enough to
> drive off most of the technical people that used to post here. There
> used to be some good conversations here but retard drove them off.
And you don't think using words like 'moron' and 'retard' don't drive people
off?
David Eduardo
"Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> Non-Comm's are forbidden from having commercials...that's why they
>> >> have
>> >> underwriter announcements.
>> >
>> > And reality is that there is no difference.
>>
>> Check with a lawyer....there is.
>
> Sorry bud, a private corporation pays and gets mentioned as supporting
> the program. You think that's done for altruistic reasons? If it was
> their name and what they do or manufacture would not be mentioned. They
> want to be thought well of so you will buy the product or service. This
> is very transparent and if you don't see it I don't hold much hope for
> you. I don't care about the legalese.
>
Non coms can have "commercials" but there are restrictions on them, such as
no "call for action" and no price-item type ads. However, a commercial can
describe the merits of a business or product. An example would be Mercedes
can describe the design and careful attention to detail and safety and the
power of its engines, but not the $399 a month lease terms for well
qualified customers. It's an ad, but with restrictions.... very significant
restrictions.
As was said, check with a lawyer... any communications attorney can tell you
the differences between ads on a commercial and non commercial station.
dxAce
David Eduardo wrote:
They can tell a real Hispanic from a faux Hispanic such as yourself as well.
RHF
> "Telamon" <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
* * * * * Five Star Snip * * * * *
Telamon -wrote-
- - - - Yeah. What RHF posted is baseless.
Radio Ron -wrote-
- - - Again, you set yourself up to be the arbiter of others....
- - - thats what makesz newsgroups disintegrate.
Telamon -wrote-
- - Hey knock yourself out then.
- - You deal with the RHF bull crap
- - and we will see how you do with it.
Radio Ron -wrote-
- easy.....'plonk!'
Radio Ron - Brilliant ! - now that was easy ~ RHF
Telamon - Please Get a "Clue" [ Filter It and Forget It ]
Telamon - Whiner Relies 39 out of 89 Posts ~ Newsgroup Noise Level
43.8%
=PS= Radio Ron - Looks like you have Acquired a . . .
Teli-Monkey On-a-String ! - You just Ping Him and
Teli predictably Pongs Back time and time again
-cause- Teli Can't Help Himself for He is a . . .
Teli-Monkey On-a-String ! -and- That Is What They Do.
--pps-- Enjoy Your New Pet ;-} :-}
.
dave
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> And reality is that there is no difference.
>
> Check with a lawyer....there is.
>
Check with a listener; a commercial's a commercial.
The NCEFM is less likely to talk about gun crime when the Olin
Foundation is writing the checks.
dave
>
> And you don't think using words like 'moron' and 'retard' don't drive people
> off?
>
I'm a retard and I'm still here.
dave
> I remember back when there actually were non-commercial stations.
David Eduardo
"Bart Bailey" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:483139c6...@bart.spawar.mil...
> In Message-ID:<xw9Yj.3948$ah4....@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com> posted on Sun,
> 18 May 2008 23:56:31 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin
>
>>Non coms can have "commercials"
>
> regardless of what they say.
> I remember back when there actually were non-commercial stations.
There certainly are commercials, but the content is severely limited.
From today's Inside Radio, a news item that defines to some extent what can
and can't be in a non-com's "underwriting" announcements which are simply
commercials without the hype.
Non-commercial station fined for plugging sponsors' products. Contemporary
Christian "92.7 The River" WCVZ, South Zanesville, OH is being hit with a
$9,000 FCC fine for broadcasting prohibited underwriting announcements in
2003. The case involves underwriters Tastee Freeze and Prindle-GMAC Real
Estate. In the Tastee Freeze instance, WCVZ asked listeners whether they are
"planning a special occasion" - a move the FCC says "might require use of
the underwriter's products." Owner Christian Voice of Central Ohio argues
the comments are acceptable because they don't contain price information or
calls to action. But WCVZ is fined because the FCC says announcements that
feature "comparative or qualitative descriptions, price information, calls
to action, or inducements to buy, sell, rent or lease" are prohibited. The
station has since converted to a commercial operation.
David Eduardo
> In Message-ID:<XTeYj.2640$aS1...@fe097.usenetserver.com> posted on Mon,
> 19 May 2008 06:02:44 -0700, dave wrote: Begin
>
>>Bart Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> I remember back when there actually were non-commercial stations.
>>
>>http://www.pacifica.org/
>
Not true. KPFK is protected only to the extent of a conforming B contour,
which ends in deep Orange County. No LA FM is protected into San Diego
County. XHLNC is a legal operation.
Second, XHLNC (there is no XLNC) is moving to another frequency.
m II
> They can tell a real Hispanic from a faux Hispanic such as yourself as well.
....yawnnnnnnn....
m II
> And how is our news group retard doing today?
....yawnnnnn......
Radio Ron
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
news:GihYj.1312$mh5...@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>
>>>Non coms can have "commercials"
>>
Sorry that was a typo....should've been "can't" have commercials.
(One typo can change the whole meaning of a sentence....)
Radio Ron
>
> "Telamon" <telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote in message
> news:telamon_spamshield-0...@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Non-Comm's are forbidden from having commercials...that's why they
>>> >> have
>>> >> underwriter announcements.
>>> >
>>> > And reality is that there is no difference.
>>>
>>> Check with a lawyer....there is.
>>
>> Sorry bud, a private corporation pays and gets mentioned as supporting
>> the program. You think that's done for altruistic reasons?
Absolutely not....
But it's like someone getting their name listed as a donor at a museum.
But it's more a question of what you call it. Semantics.
As Eduardo pointed out, there are things that can make a difference as
defined by law.