Eduardo radio is off 5% year to date
pocket-radio
5.23.2008
RAB used the words “growth” and “steady” in its announcement headline; but
overall revenue continues to be down for U.S. commercial radio in the first
quarter.
Radio revenue was off 5% in the quarter compared to the same period last
year, it reported, dragged down by a drop of 11% in national business and a
6% drop in local. Network business was up 7%, though, and off-air ntr
continues to be the star for radio, increasing 15%.
Overall revenue in the quarter was estimated at just under $4.5 billion; if
that pace were to hold, the year would end at around $18 billion total.
But RAB says several industries increased their investment in radio in the
quarter, “becoming the new growth leaders for the medium. The influx of
these dollars, combined with the steady escalation of advertiser spending in
the network and off-air sectors, helped radio curtail the effects of today’s
unstable economy.”
Its announcement captures RAB’s view of the numbers: “Network, Off-Air,
Political Help Steady Radio in 1st Quarter 2008; Insurance, Specialty
Retail, Professional Services, and Beverages Emerge as Growth Category
Leaders.”
President/CEO Jeff Haley said he is “encouraged that first quarter has
brought new and returning advertisers to radio.”
gallant17
Actually, radio stocks are down at least 50%, and some are down 90%.
This goes to show that with iPods, cell phones, etc the long-term
outlook for radio is grim.
David Eduardo
"gallant17" <gall...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<Actually, radio stocks are down at least 50%, and some are down 90%.
<This goes to show that with iPods, cell phones, etc the long-term
<outlook for radio is grim.
Stock price often has little to do with a business and more to do with
market trends and hot and cold sectors.
I'm going to retire enjoyable due to buying "value stocks" which are simply
companies throwing off lots of cash and paying dividends which are
undervalued by various metrics. Profitability and dividends tend to pay off
in capital appreciation plus the dividends over time, and the underlying
cash flows insure lower risk. Radio is undervalued, which is why several
companies have gone private... there is enormous value there.
gallant17
> "gallant17" <gallan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Companies that go private are in a retreat strategy - radio is going
down the toilet, and everyone knows it.
David Eduardo
Companies that go private do so because a group of investors with money spot
value in excess of the market capitalization.
dxAce
David Frackelton Gleason, whilst posing as 'Eduardo', shipped out another load
when he wrote:
> "gallant17" <gall...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9ced0d22-adc5-49dc...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> <Actually, radio stocks are down at least 50%, and some are down 90%.
> <This goes to show that with iPods, cell phones, etc the long-term
> <outlook for radio is grim.
>
> Stock price often has little to do with a business and more to do with
> market trends and hot and cold sectors.
>
> I'm going to retire enjoyable due to buying "value stocks" which are simply
> companies throwing off lots of cash and paying dividends which are
> undervalued by various metrics.
Didn't you say sometime back that you'd have to keep working due to the fact
that radio firms didn't have much of a pension plan? Something along the lines
of being 70 years old or so?
"retire enjoyable" at 70 or so doesn't seem too enjoyable.
Or is this merely another shipment of your BS?
D Peter Maus
>
> David Frackelton Gleason, whilst posing as 'Eduardo', shipped out another load
> when he wrote:
>
>> "gallant17" <gall...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:9ced0d22-adc5-49dc...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> <Actually, radio stocks are down at least 50%, and some are down 90%.
>> <This goes to show that with iPods, cell phones, etc the long-term
>> <outlook for radio is grim.
>>
>> Stock price often has little to do with a business and more to do with
>> market trends and hot and cold sectors.
>>
>> I'm going to retire enjoyable due to buying "value stocks" which are simply
>> companies throwing off lots of cash and paying dividends which are
>> undervalued by various metrics.
>
> Didn't you say sometime back that you'd have to keep working due to the fact
> that radio firms didn't have much of a pension plan? Something along the lines
> of being 70 years old or so?
Radio wasn't very big on pension or thrift plans, as a rule, but they
do exist. And after the mid 80's, for executives with a specified time
in service, profit sharing, thrift and pension plans became more common
among very large firms. And they exist with different plans for
different levels of service, or rank within the company.
I had both a 401k and a company pension plan when I exited the
business, in addition to my portfoli, and my own financial plan for
retirement.
Generally, front line employees, like disk jockeys, and support staff
like banner hangers, don't last long enough to have much in the way of
vested interest in company assets and plans, so, for most, in radio,
there are no pensions.
Then, again, if you really do well in Radio, you don't need a company
pension...you've covered that on your own.
My own plan was far better than any company offerings in which I was
vested. I simply cashed out my company plans when I exited, because my
own plans were so much better.
dave
>
> Actually, radio stocks are down at least 50%, and some are down 90%.
> This goes to show that with iPods, cell phones, etc the long-term
> outlook for radio is grim.
They need to rethink "content" and "public service" and "localism".
m II
> Didn't you say sometime back that you'd have to keep working due to the fact
> that radio firms didn't have much of a pension plan? Something along the lines
> of being 70 years old or so?
>
> "retire enjoyable" at 70 or so doesn't seem too enjoyable.
Idiocy is your second nature, isn't it Lare?
Any person who tries to show their self worth by the kind of watch they
wear, is worth less than the watch.
First, you insult people for the type of radios they use by telling them
to 'tote' their portables. Then you call people you don't like 'nigger'
and 'niggah'. Telling Mexicans they can they can gas themselves with
tacos was pretty bad. Never tired of insulting, then you went on to call
half the world's population 'chinks' and 'slant eyes'.
Calling daughters of people you've never met 'bitches' and 'c*nts' was a
real class act.
Now, you've sunk to a new low, attempting to make someone look less than
human because of their retirement funds and state of finances.
Not all of us can or want to leech government funding and insurance
settlements like you can. We are getting paid for the work we do in the
community and are able to point to our accomplishments with pride.
You have nothing to show for your entire miserable life. You are a waste
of skin.
You are a complete failure as a human being while being a complete,
perfect and unadulterated asshole.
Go ahead with your insults of Canada and Canadians. It's what's expected
from you and your limited cranial resources. Finish that bottle. It
really brings out your wit.
But you already know that, having woken up on the floor for the third
time this week.
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
At any rate, it would be better than waking up on the floor for the seventh time
this week like you obviously did this morning.
Now take a hike, dumbass!
m II
> Now take a hike, dumbass!
I'm not finished with you yet, you drunken, racist retard.
Did you get your sphincter fixed after that drunken party with the Greek
sailors got 'out of hand'? The Navy tells me you left immediately after
that little episode.
Let's make these little social calls more often, ok? You don't want to
act like a human being and I need the entertainment.
It's a match made in heaven.
Please, keep up the insults. It's easy for you as there are so limited
in scope and number.
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
> dxAce wrote:
>
> > Now take a hike, dumbass!
>
> I'm not finished with you yet, you drunken, racist retard.
>
> Did you get your sphincter fixed after that drunken party with the Greek
> sailors got 'out of hand'? The Navy tells me you left immediately after
> that little episode.
Our Navy wouldn't tell you s**t, boy. You're a dumbass Canuck.
> Let's make these little social calls more often, ok? You don't want to
> act like a human being and I need the entertainment.
Jerking off not enough for you, boy?
m II
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander, United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA
during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:
> Jerking off not enough for you, boy?
You told me you'd never mention those pictures to ANYONE. When you told
me you actually wear the bras Cuhulin sends you (especially the red
one), I trusted you to keep your little gay secret out of the public forum.
What exactly will your State police say when they find out I am twelve
years old? Will they appreciate your 'art' collection?
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
> dxAcehole, aka Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
> SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander, United Counties of Michigan Militia)
> Michigan
> USA
>
> during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:
>
> > Jerking off not enough for you, boy?
>
> You told me you'd never mention those pictures to ANYONE.
I didn't tell you s**t, boy.
> When you told
> me you actually wear the bras Cuhulin sends you (especially the red
> one), I trusted you to keep your little gay secret out of the public forum.
>
> What exactly will your State police say when they find out I am twelve
> years old?
They'll laugh their ass's off because you're a dumbass Canuck!
> Will they appreciate your 'art' collection?
The question really is, will the RCMP appreciate yours, boy?
m II
>
> m II wrote:
>
>> dxAcehole, aka Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
>> SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander, United Counties of Michigan Militia)
>> Michigan
>> USA
>>
>> during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:
>>
>>> Jerking off not enough for you, boy?
>> You told me you'd never mention those pictures to ANYONE.
>
> I didn't tell you s**t, boy.
You were planning to humiliate me all along? We would NEVER have gone to
the motel with you and your Second in Command if we knew you couldn't be
trusted. Nothing sadder than old lying drag queen, such as yourself.
I have to leave now, a little wiser yet still hurt by your betrayal,
Steve. I won't be answering any more classified ads from Holland MI in
the future.
Please, feel free to have the last word.
dxAce
m II wrote:
> dxAce wrote:
> >
> > m II wrote:
> >
> >> dxAcehole, aka Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
> >> SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander, United Counties of Michigan Militia)
> >> Michigan
> >> USA
> >>
> >> during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:
> >>
> >>> Jerking off not enough for you, boy?
> >> You told me you'd never mention those pictures to ANYONE.
> >
> > I didn't tell you s**t, boy.
>
> You were planning to humiliate me all along?
You humiliate yourself, 'tard boy.
> We would NEVER have gone to
> the motel with you and your Second in Command if we knew you couldn't be
> trusted.
I've never been to a motel with you, boy!
> Nothing sadder than old lying drag queen, such as yourself.
Nothing sadder? Try Dumbass Canuck!
> I have to leave now, a little wiser yet still hurt by your betrayal,
> Steve. I won't be answering any more classified ads from Holland MI in
> the future.
Plenty of your ilk to play with close to home in CanaDuh, right?
> Please, feel free to have the last word.
I'm free to do as I please, boy. After all, I'm not a dumbass Canuck.
pocket-radio
The trends are towards more voice tracking, yes more, not less and cyber
jocking. Hello Rent-A-Jock.
If radio rises out of the ashes is may come back better than ever, so far
leadership is still moving towards cutting more fat.
Localism and being a part of the community is a thing of the past.
Consolation was the worst thing ever to happen to radio.
I was great for the greed mongers (Mays family) who run Clear Channel, Cox
Broadcasting and the rest of the radio morons. But in the end they've
destroyed the industry. HD so far is dead because of lack of interest from
listeners. And more gadgets are on the horizon.
While HD struggles to be standard equipment in most vehicles, you watch the
internet will be the gadget of choice. And cheap wimax wireless access will
be everyplace.
The best thing that could happen is stations go dark and station values hit
rock bottom. Like the housing bubble. Then real radio operators will come in
and start over again. We might have a chance but the above must happen
first..
Bain/lee the suckers who bought Clear Channel may very well be the first
group to fall. These guys are investors not radio operators.
David Eduardo
"dxAce" <dx...@milestones.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> David Frackelton Gleason, whilst posing as 'Eduardo', shipped out another
> load
> when he wrote:
>
>> "gallant17" <gall...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:9ced0d22-adc5-49dc...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> <Actually, radio stocks are down at least 50%, and some are down 90%.
>> <This goes to show that with iPods, cell phones, etc the long-term
>> <outlook for radio is grim.
>>
>> Stock price often has little to do with a business and more to do with
>> market trends and hot and cold sectors.
>>
>> I'm going to retire enjoyable due to buying "value stocks" which are
>> simply
>> companies throwing off lots of cash and paying dividends which are
>> undervalued by various metrics.
>
> Didn't you say sometime back that you'd have to keep working due to the
> fact
> that radio firms didn't have much of a pension plan? Something along the
> lines
> of being 70 years old or so?
No, I did not. You, in typical fachion, reversed the data points:
In the 60's and 70's, few radio companies, because they were so small, had
any kind of benefits... health insurance was not common, and benefits even
less common.
Today, most larger radio companies have full benefits menus. To the extent
that if we want to work beyond regular retirement ages, it is only because
we enjoy the business and want to keep working.
> "retire enjoyable" at 70 or so doesn't seem too enjoyable.
Many people do not want to be retired and doing nothing.
>
> Or is this merely another shipment of your BS?
>
No, it is just an example of your poor reading comprehension. You must have
gone to a bad US public school.
>
>
David Eduardo
"D Peter Maus" <DPete...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:bgc_j.27717$we7....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> Radio wasn't very big on pension or thrift plans, as a rule, but they do
> exist. And after the mid 80's, for executives with a specified time in
> service, profit sharing, thrift and pension plans became more common among
> very large firms. And they exist with different plans for different levels
> of service, or rank within the company.
>
> I had both a 401k and a company pension plan when I exited the business,
> in addition to my portfoli, and my own financial plan for retirement.
>
> Generally, front line employees, like disk jockeys, and support staff
> like banner hangers, don't last long enough to have much in the way of
> vested interest in company assets and plans, so, for most, in radio, there
> are no pensions.
Generally, any of the medium and larger companies today has a 401k with a
percentage match. Very few companies that were not unionied back before the
60's or so have pension plans; they are the product of unionism of the
post-war boom years and today's post-consolidation companies did not exist
then and acquired no such burden.
Everywhere I look, 401k participation begins as soon as 90 days after
starting employment, and they can roll over if a person changes employment.
>
> Then, again, if you really do well in Radio, you don't need a company
> pension...you've covered that on your own.
This is true, and covers the best talent, sellers and managers.
>
> My own plan was far better than any company offerings in which I was
> vested. I simply cashed out my company plans when I exited, because my own
> plans were so much better.
Even better is to enjoy the tax benefits of deferred taxation vehicles and
to have taxable accounts which are additionally funded.
dxAce
David Eduardo wrote:
Ah, but unlike you, I graduated!
dave
audiences; experimentation; etc.
pocket-radio
jocks who say nothing. Other than the station ID over and over and music
intros.. talk to me like I'm person and say something worth listening to.
David Eduardo
>
>
> David Eduardo wrote:
>
>> >
>> No, it is just an example of your poor reading comprehension. You must
>> have
>> gone to a bad US public school.
>
> Ah, but unlike you, I graduated!
>
And unlike you, I studied on my own and made a rather significant career out
of it. You, on the other hand, do basically nothing. How boring.
RHF
Mike [M II],
Even for a Canadian the Use of The-N-Word is Un-Acceptable [.]
[[Then you call people you don't like 'n*gg*r' and 'n*ggah'.]]
-or- has The-N-Word become the newly 'coined' word for
all Ameican {USA} Citizens in Canada ?
canada - don't spread the sick-ness of canadian
national racial hatred and american envy ~ RHF
.
dxAce
David Frackelton Gleason, fresh in from a stint standing on a corner posing as
'Eduardo', wrote:
Uh-huh.
k35454
"RHF" <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:97ee6821-2889-4095...@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Mike [M II],
Think od old Anglo-Saxon proverb
regarding "nigger in the woodpile". Has been
circulating in Canada for years and years.
miki. .