Re: GOP: We'll cut. . ah. . .we'll cut. . .something people don't like
Stephen Young
> http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/10/06/gop-well-cut-ah-well-cut-
something-people-dont-like/
>
> October 6, 2010
>
> GOP: We’ll cut. . ah. . .we’ll cut. . .something people don’t like
>
> by ctucker
>
> The liberal blog Think Progress
> http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/04/video-gop-no-idea-cuts/ has put
> together a damning video of Republicans, showing off their hypocrisy on
> spending cuts.
>
> A compendium of news clips, it shows a host of Republicans, candidates
> and elected officials, who are either unwilling or unable to name a
> single program they would cut:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-qPE8AfqQ&feature=player_embedded
>
> Harry
Crist! this is funny!
Boohner squirming like a snake and calling for the mostly returned tarp
money to be ... returned!!! LOL I can't imagine how stupid you have to
be to vote republican! It's like asking to be hit in the head with bricks
DogDiesel
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Too bad for you you idiots didn't throw the working people a bone before you
shoved death car and fines up their ass. After the fact you refused to kick
out the murdering illegals. And of course there's the Kenyan village idiot.
Nope, you're gonna get what you deserve. Kicked back in your fucking
closet.
lab~rat >:-)
<EvilErran...@gmail.com> puked:
>On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:03:19 -0400, Harry Hope wrote:
>
>> http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/10/06/gop-well-cut-ah-well-cut-
>something-people-dont-like/
>>
>> October 6, 2010
>>
>> GOP: We?ll cut. . ah. . .we?ll cut. . .something people don?t like
>>
>> by ctucker
>>
>> The liberal blog Think Progress
>> http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/04/video-gop-no-idea-cuts/ has put
>> together a damning video of Republicans, showing off their hypocrisy on
>> spending cuts.
>>
>> A compendium of news clips, it shows a host of Republicans, candidates
>> and elected officials, who are either unwilling or unable to name a
>> single program they would cut:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-qPE8AfqQ&feature=player_embedded
>>
>> Harry
>
>Crist! this is funny!
>Boohner squirming like a snake and calling for the mostly returned tarp
>money to be ... returned!!! LOL I can't imagine how stupid you have to
>be to vote republican! It's like asking to be hit in the head with bricks
>
Right, it's much smarter to vote for higher taxes and more spending.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
dave
>
> Right, it's much smarter to vote for higher taxes and more spending.
> --
You're going to get "more spending" with either party. I prefer "higher
taxes" to "deficit spending".
John Harbl
That's like saying it's better to have cancer than AIDS.
- J.
lab~rat >:-)
I would suggest that voting for someone that promises lower taxes and
less spending is better than voting for someone that wants more taxes
and more spending.
--
John Smith
> ...
> Too bad for you you idiots didn't throw the working people a bone before you
> shoved death car and fines up their ass. After the fact you refused to kick
> out the murdering illegals. And of course there's the Kenyan village idiot.
>
> Nope, you're gonna get what you deserve. Kicked back in your fucking
> closet.
Well, toss the damn queer republicans in that closet too; They are no
better and we are tired of it all.
We are still stuck with the problem of how to get a decent persons name
on the ballot ...
Regards,
JS
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:27:37 -0800, dave <da...@dave.dave> puked:
>
>> lab~rat >:-) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Right, it's much smarter to vote for higher taxes and more spending.
>>> --
>>
>> You're going to get "more spending" with either party. I prefer "higher
>> taxes" to "deficit spending".
You are saying that there's no such thing as cutting spending?
John Smith
> ...
> You are saying that there's no such thing as cutting spending?
NOT while there is a republi-crat or demo-can occupying the office
promising the cuts!
Regards,
JS
Sid9
"John Smith" <assembl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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.
Another desperate attempt to equate and excuse Republicans for the mess they
created.
John Smith
> ...
> Another desperate attempt to equate and excuse Republicans for the mess
> they created.
Whatever has a republi-crat done which a demo-can has not? Whatever has
a republi-crat NOT DONE which a demo-can HAS NOT?
The puppet masters "play" is served equally as well by both.
When clinton replaced bush, we were told great benefits would be on us.
When bush replaced clinton, we were told great benefits would be on
us. When obama replaced bush, once again, we were told great benefits
are upon us. Indeed, until Kennedy, it has been but one long downhill run.
The problems are still all the same ... now fools start screaming a
change of party is "going to bring great benefits."
I say, the rich will get richer, wall street and the shadow government
will get stronger and eviler, people will begin dying from lack of
medical care, illegal aliens will decorate the landscape, jobs will be
overseas, etc. -- but, we WILL have an abundance of poverty and
homelessness here. And, the new world order will march on ... while
idiots and morons keep electing the same treasonous "crook type" which
the elite populate our ballots with ...
To put it simply, until people take to the streets to take NO MORE, it
will worsen and blacken ... fools, morons and idiots, ONLY, will find
argument with the true altruism's above!
Regards,
JS
dave
> On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:27:37 -0800, dave<da...@dave.dave> puked:
>
>> lab~rat>:-) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Right, it's much smarter to vote for higher taxes and more spending.
>>> --
>>
>> You're going to get "more spending" with either party. I prefer "higher
>> taxes" to "deficit spending".
>
> I would suggest that voting for someone that promises lower taxes and
> less spending is better than voting for someone that wants more taxes
> and more spending.
Wants?
Grow up.
lab~rat >:-)
That's exactly what the Democrats are running on. With the exception
of the ones that are distancing themselves from Obama.
John Smith
> ...
> You're going to get "more spending" with either party. I prefer "higher
> taxes" to "deficit spending".
Well, actually, there wouldn't be much harm there, if done correctly.
Since about 80+% of the people fight over only ~7% of the money, we
would have to tax the rich. This would be the solution for awhile,
until they no longer had the money to pay them.
It is obvious, any new taxes on those stricken with poverty, living
paycheck-to-paycheck, they will simply fail and be forced on
welfare--which the rich will also have to pick up the tab on--so, those
rich are going to start running out of money in pretty short order ...
but hey, it will work for awhile.
Indeed, the above will force the people into the street in open
rebellion a lot sooner ... it might be a way to shorten the length of
time we are stuck in this whole mess ... I mean, it just might
work--hungry people get pretty desperate and mean ...
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> On 10/7/2010 8:27 AM, dave wrote:
> ...
> Well, actually, there wouldn't be much harm there, if done correctly.
> ...
> Regards,
> JS
I should point out, I have always had a handgun around and never could
imagine I would ever see a time I would have to use it. A few months
ago I took the old military .45 in and traded it, with some cash, for a
new 9mm auto on a titanium frame for me and a little .32 auto on an
aluminum frame for the wife. Sent her through a training course, and we
both now carry ... times have changed ...
Regards,
JS
amdx
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2007.
This is when the economy started it's dive. Note: Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac
were pushed by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and this started the snowball
rolling.
Checkout this youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=
MikeK
amdx
"lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote in message
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Most of them are distancing themselves from Obama and healthcare and
they don't even say they are democrats in most of their ads, or government
webpages.
MikeK
John Smith
> The democrats have had a majority in the house and the senate since Jan,
> 2007.
> This is when the economy started it's dive. Note: Fannie Mae and Freddie
> Mac
> were pushed by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and this started the snowball
> rolling.
> Checkout this youtube.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=
> MikeK
Your problem is you see everything in the immediate. By the time you
notice something "starts its' dive" bad policy and people have been at
work a decade to cause it!
The truth is, NOTHING has gotten better since the 1960's, each year it
only worsens. However, the top 10% or at least 5% of the population
have never had it so good ... they are certainly NOT for changing
anything, except to worsen it for the rest of us. And, the 1%
richest-elite are drowning in the money which has been stolen from the
other 90% of the population ...
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> Most of them are distancing themselves from Obama and healthcare and
> they don't even say they are democrats in most of their ads, or government
> webpages.
> MikeK
When you see them standing beside or behind Ron Paul, begin to take them
seriously--it will be the first time they have been honestly sincere.
Regards,
JS
amdx
What are you talking about, I'm lower middle or middle class and I have a
house,
4 vehicles, 3 tv's, 3 vcr's, a daughter in college, my 16 yr old son drives
a Lexus,
it's a 98 but it's beautiful and in great condition. I have radios, I have
a work bench
with a scope and all the test equipment I need for now. I have 2 computers,
my son
has a XBOX360, PS3 and a Wii. (Need to sell the PS3 and Wii, don't get much
use.)
We have a riding lawn mower, an electric gokart, a storage shed for both. I
have a
shed for my tools and to work in. My wife has a shed for her stuff. We have
a washer and
dryer, heat and air conditioning. Indoor plumbing :-)
I have health insurance that I'm comfortable with, and a Health Savings
Account
that seems to work well, everyone should have one, that would lower
healthcare costs.
I suspect Obamacare will screw up my health insurance before it's over.
What more should I want?
I have enough money saved to live very frugally the rest of my life.
Ya, I watched my house go from $83,000 to $260,000 and back down to under
$150,000.
All caused by bad government policy.
I could go on, but you get the point, if you want get ahead in America the
opportunity is here.
I do expect to continue saving* another 10 years or so to make retirement
more
comfortable. I'm 55 so I think I might get in on the SS ponzy scheme, but
you youngsters
should expect it to change drastically.
I don't have any debt except insurance and taxes.
This is a wonderful place to live if you live under your means and try to
get
ahead rather than digging yourself into debt. Everything is available, it is
an amazing place. I'm pretty much agnostic, but God Bless America.
I think I hear the Star Spangled Banner Playing.
MikeK
* sorry if I offended anyone with that saving for my own future.
amdx
learning the ins and outs before I get the wife started.
MikeK
Beam Me Up Scotty
It's a tool like a power saw and almost as dangerous so be alert and enjoy.
John Smith
>> ...
> * sorry if I offended anyone with that saving for my own future.
>
>
Well, congratulations on owning a bunch of chinese junk, if you like
that sort of stuff, sounds like you are set ... I'd think in the near
future that house will hit 83K again, don't worry ... you are not doing
as well as my family, but then we always knew to own our own businesses
to fall back on. Of course, I only own one SUV and the wife has a tiny
town car ... I don't like a bunch of chinese junk laying around ... but
electronics is the downfall of the wife and me. Since it is all
plastic-chinese junk now, we think of it as just having "backups."
I don't know how much of a cushion you have, but it might save you if
you settle in the right area--good neighbors in a country setting close
to a clean dependable water supply--our vacation home doubles as our
bomb shelter and safe house ... I'd suggest plenty of guns, secure
shelter, food, medicine, gold and not necessarily in that order ... a
home in the city/suburbs is just something you are going to have to dump.
I pity those who either cannot or will not be prepared ... but then, I
learned that in Boy Scouts.
Regards,
JS
John Smith
>> ...
> Hmm... we just bought our first gun two weeks ago (her idea), and I'm
> learning the ins and outs before I get the wife started.
> MikeK
In my high school years, we lived in a small town, in the country. I
used to take a .22 rifle to school with me, toss it in my locker, when
school was out, go off shooting and exploring out gold mines, and such.
I went hunting with my father ever since I was ten.
The wifes' family have always owned gun stores, and still do. So she
pretty much grew up with a gun in her hand since childhood. And, nice
to have the family able to supply us with many and discounted weapons.
I am fond of automatics and have went a bit overboard in holding on to
them. I once even owned a 50 caliber cannon ... try to find a place to
shoot that nowadays!
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> It's a tool like a power saw and almost as dangerous so be alert and enjoy.
>
Well, all that, and that IS the best reason for owning one--to make the
"other guy give up his life" if he comes for yours, to protect yourself
from an oppressive government, etc.
But, also a toy, like a car, motorcycle, etc. And, just as capable of
great harm if not "played with" properly ...
Regards,
JS
cuh...@webtv.net
the TCM channel.
That's a Good one! ~ Walter Brennan - Rio Bravo movie.I have been to Rio
Bravo,Mexico before.I went to a Saloon in Rio Bravo.They had a lot of
deep sawdust all over the floor in that Saloon, and those double
swinging doors too.I Likes that.
cuhulin
John Smith
> ...
> That's a Good one! ~ Walter Brennan - Rio Bravo movie.I have been to Rio
> Bravo,Mexico before.I went to a Saloon in Rio Bravo.They had a lot of
> deep sawdust all over the floor in that Saloon, and those double
> swinging doors too.I Likes that.
> cuhulin
>
Well, out in the country, with her little gun belt, holster, extra clips
and bullets in the belt, the wife fool more like Annie Oakley than
Walter Brennan!
Well, I think she is a LOT cuter than Walter, anyway.
Regards,
JS
David Fritzinger
"amdx" <am...@knology.net> wrote:
OK, I will present my challenge again (Thus far, all the conservatives
have run from it).
First, temporal correlations are not strong at all. If you want anyone
to believe your temporal correlation, you need to present some reason
for them to do so.
So, this is your chance. Please list the bills that the Democratic
majority got through the Senate that caused all of these problems.
Please concentrate on the time between Jan, 2007 and Jan, 2009, since
that is when our economy went to hell in a handbasket. Now, please tell
me how the Democrats in the Senate managed to persuade enough
Republicans to overcome the inevitable filibuster. Then, please tell us
how the Democrats were able to get 7 more Republicans to override the
inevitable veto from President Bush. I expect you to name names of the
Senators who voted for these apparently horrible bills, and to point out
the bills they voted for.
MikeK, the floor is yours...
Ray Fischer
> Stephen Young
>>Boohner squirming like a snake and calling for the mostly returned tarp
>>money to be ... returned!!! LOL I can't imagine how stupid you have to
>>be to vote republican! It's like asking to be hit in the head with bricks
>>
>
>Right, it's much smarter to vote for higher taxes and more spending.
No, it's NOT smart to vote GOP. Pay attention.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:27:37 -0800, dave <da...@dave.dave> puked:
>
>>lab~rat >:-) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Right, it's much smarter to vote for higher taxes and more spending.
>>> --
>>
>>You're going to get "more spending" with either party. I prefer "higher
>>taxes" to "deficit spending".
>
>I would suggest that voting for someone that promises lower taxes and
>less spending is better than voting for someone that wants more taxes
>and more spending.
And how stupid is it to vote for the party that uses the same lies
again and again.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>
>"John Smith" <assembl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:i8l535$17k$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 10/7/2010 11:26 AM, John Smith wrote:
>>> On 10/7/2010 8:27 AM, dave wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> Well, actually, there wouldn't be much harm there, if done correctly.
>>> ...
>>> Regards,
>>> JS
>>
>> I should point out, I have always had a handgun around and never could
>> imagine I would ever see a time I would have to use it. A few months ago
>> I took the old military .45 in and traded it, with some cash, for a new
>> 9mm auto on a titanium frame for me and a little .32 auto on an aluminum
>> frame for the wife. Sent her through a training course, and we both now
>> carry ... times have changed ...
>
>learning the ins and outs before I get the wife started.
The GOP thrives on fear and hate. It's how they get votes.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
John Smith
> ...
> And how stupid is it to vote for the party that uses the same lies
> again and again.
>
Huh?
Read my lips, "NO NEW TAXES!"
Well, other than on the poor, the homeless, the destitute, the
suffering, etc. It would be funny ... if it weren't so sick ...
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> The GOP thrives on fear and hate. It's how they get votes.
>
Then, for now, and the foreseeable future, they should be in good health
... this time it is for real! I am not so sure they even realize that
... but the game became reality ... a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you
will.
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> No, it's NOT smart to vote GOP. Pay attention.
>
Open your ballot, study it closely, now ask yourself, "Is any one of
these candidates really going to improve my standard of living, my
familys' standard, my friends?"
Ask yourself, "Are any of these propositions really going to change
things for the better, cure any of the real underlying problems, bring
prosperity back to America, improve jobs, health care, crime, etc."
Now, doesn't the question, "What the hell am I voting for?" Sound like
the only intelligent question? And, "Why is somebody saying that?"
Regards,
JS
John Smith
>> And, "Why is somebody saying that?"
>
> Regards,
> JS
NOT is missing, of course ...
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On 10/7/2010 7:26 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>
>> ...
>> The GOP thrives on fear and hate. It's how they get votes.
Is there a reason the Democrats are attacking Republicans for personal
issues rather than running on your Democrat policy records.
Did Democrats come up short on successful legislation to brag about or
is it just that you have no successful policies......
How's that Border problem panning out for your Democrats? How's that
TAX plan working, is VAT a big hit or is the Carbon tax taking-off for you.
I suppose the Obamacare thing could have gone better too..... But the
Trillion dollar bailout plan is one you need to use on all your note
getting escapades.
cuh...@webtv.net
forced to move to another County because Rankin County says she has not
met all of the requirements to keep her pit bull dogs.
Oh Boo Hoo, she Should be forced to move (Deported) to another Country
if she wants to keep her Stupid dogs!
People who own those kinds of dogs, those people don't have ''anything
upstairs'' if you know what I mean?
cuhulin
John Smith
> ...
> I suppose the Obamacare thing could have gone better too..... But the
> Trillion dollar bailout plan is one you need to use on all your note
> getting escapades.
As I say, again, I am just here for the laughs. Damn fools wanna' lead
others to believe there is one bit of difference between republi-crats
and demo-cans need their fool heads examined ... but it is funny to watch.
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> Allot was done in congress and the only people unhappy are teabagging
> republicans
> ...
A lot was done? Well, let me see, trillions were given to billionaires,
that is the same as has been happening ... the amount is staggering though.
The rich-rip-off insurance corps have been guaranteed clients ... a new
twist in how that is being done.
Tax breaks have been guaranteed for the richest of the rich ... that is
pretty old news ...
No, I can't say a lot has been done here ... indeed, the landscape looks
pretty much the same, except for a bunch more losing their retirement,
homes, wealth, etc.
I wouldn't say "a lot" has been done ... indeed, if I didn't know a
demo-can was in office, I'd have thought it was a republi-crat!
Regards,
JS
John Smith
>> ...
> if you know what I mean?
>> ...
> cuhulin
>
I do know what you mean, I wouldn't trust one of 'em around my dog!
Regards,
JS
Ray Fischer
>
>> On 10/7/2010 7:26 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> The GOP thrives on fear and hate. It's how they get votes.
>
>Is there a reason the Democrats are attacking Republicans for personal
>issues rather than running on your Democrat policy records.
Why are you using lies to attack Democrats?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
John Smith
> ...
> Why are you using lies to attack Democrats?
>
Why worry? The same attacks used on demo-cans will be able to be used
on republi-cans next time they step into office. Same problems will
still exist, same plans will still be in effect and they will be
carrying them out for the same puppet masters ...
Regards,
JS
Beam Me Up Scotty
explain why you are hiding from your record.
cuh...@webtv.net
about thirty something years old, nice looking figure on herself.Rankin
County is just across the mighty Pearl River, (if you are heading East
on Highway 80, or I-20) about five miles East (behind) doggy's couch.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
Anna Steen Rankin County,Mississippi
Rankin County Refuses Family's Pit Bulls.They ought to just shoot those
Pit Bulls.
cuhulin
dave
>>> I would suggest that voting for someone that promises lower taxes and
>>> less spending is better than voting for someone that wants more taxes
>>> and more spending.
>>
>> Wants?
>>
>> Grow up.
>
> That's exactly what the Democrats are running on. With the exception
> of the ones that are distancing themselves from Obama.
How do you propose cutting the deficit without raising taxes? Cut
grandma's Social Security? Veteran's benefits? The military?
dave
> The democrats have had a majority in the house and the senate since Jan,
> 2007.
Not true. You need 60 votes to move anything in the Senate. The
Democratics have not had 60 since Scott Brown was swore.
There are 420 bills passed by the house, stuck in the senate, due to
Republican obstruction. Normal people are aware of this; bubble puppies
are not.
dave
>
> Most of them are distancing themselves from Obama and healthcare and
> they don't even say they are democrats in most of their ads, or government
> webpages.
People love the compnent parts of insurance reform just fine. When
characterized as a package e.g. "Obamacare" they don't like it. This is
a matter of perception.
dave
Old Tucson movie ranch.
dave
>
> Is there a reason the Democrats are attacking Republicans for personal
> issues rather than running on your Democrat policy records.
>
>
Because the Republicans are running more-dangerously-psychotic-than
usual candidates for office this time?
The border is safer and ore secure than any time in history. Oil is
killing us. You are a tool.
Beam Me Up Scotty
A guy was just killed on a jet-ski at a BORDER LAKE.
Oil is here whether we drill for it or not, and I am more of a free
thinker than you.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Yes you will need to cut Government spending.
John Smith
> ...
> How do you propose cutting the deficit without raising taxes? Cut
> grandma's Social Security? Veteran's benefits? The military?
Cut programs to all special interest groups, homosexuals, lesbians,
womens, prisoners, etc. Cut ALL foreign aid. Cut all minority
programs. All arts, music funding ... programs to help post office
workers buy homes ... TARP ... corporate welfare ...
It would be easy, with money left over ...
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> Because the Republicans are running more-dangerously-psychotic-than
> usual candidates for office this time?
>
> The border is safer and ore secure than any time in history. Oil is
> killing us. You are a tool.
More 60-80 lb backpacks of drugs are coming over than border than any
other time in history. Illegals serve as mules for this purpose to get
their first grubstake of money here ... most in law enforcement can tell
you about this ... if they aren't involved in it, themselves! With the
kind of money we are talking about, the financial lure just tends to be
too much for many of them.
Regards,
JS
Sid9
.
Peanuts.
You omitted the military and our Republican wars....that's where the real
money is.
You also omitted the cheap tax rates we have for the benefits all Americans
receive from our government
Sid9
.
Take the profit out of drugs by killing our drug laws.
Tax and regulate the shit the way we do with alcohol and tobacco.
Results?
Fill up the treasury and empty out the jails. End drug crime...because
there'll be no money in it.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Do the same with the IRS and TAX laws by amending the constitution and
getting rid of income tax and replacing it with a NEW ITEM sales tax.
The Prisons will have enough room to fill with Muslim terrorists who
kill people.
Beam Me Up Scotty
Growing Marijuana may be a help to the JOB market.
Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what stifles
commerce, the more regulations, the more it costs our economy. Most
regulations are used by existing businesses to reduce competition, and
competition would help us get out of this depression.
End the "war on drugs" make them legal(increase competition) and sold
at any drug store and push for prostitution to be legal too, that will
take the BIG money out of trafficking in drugs, and that will reduce the
gangs/dealers income and that should reduce the value of sex slaves and
hurt the human trafficking business income also. Why have illegal
prostitutes when there are so many legal tax paying prostitutes out there?
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=12541&title=portugal-legalizes-drugs--crime-usage-falls
Create Bi-color money, Red money for inside the USA and Original Green
money outside the USA..... NOTHING BUT A COLOR/INK difference, and
suddenly sending red money home to Mexico would be useless as the RED
money would be useless in Mexico since the Banks and etc wouldn't accept
it abroad. All electronic money leaving the USA would be debited the
Sales tax when the money is sent/spent.
The Drug dealers would have Red money that they need to exchange for
green money, makes it hard to do in large amounts and hard to spend and
more expensive to deal with….. that *makes Drug smuggling less*
*profitable* as would dropping the income tax and installing a NATIONAL
“NEW ITEM” SALES TAX *NOT* IMPLEMENTING A VAT TAX WHICH WILL HELP THE
DRUG DEALERS and illegals by making their tax free money leaving the
country even more valuable. If they had to buy/exchange the RED money
for GREEN money then you would charge the sales tax at that point.
Have the States Ratify an amendment withdrawing the 16th amendment...
Maybe enact something similar to the http://fairtax.org (Federal sales
tax) *BUT NOT A VAT or VALUE ADDED TAX* with the same amendment that
removes income tax and the IRS, preferably a Federal *NEW ITEM* sales tax.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7AgwtSzxt8
This will reduce the number of tax crimes that people are in jails for
and it will give the people back their privacy. It will also promote
*GREEN* living where people will save more and waste less and buy second
hand and wear things out rather than discard and buy new. Then add to
the amendment that if congress raises tax by 1% they are forced to cut
every single expenditure of the government by 3%.
Begin to draw down troops as needed from around the world. Put half
of our military bases along the southern Border to minimize the amount
of border that the Border patrol needs to watch, the military and
Federal trespassing laws will push the illegals to spaces between the
military bases.
This tax/border policy will financially assault the drug dealers and
hookers and other underground economy's by forcing them to have to pay
tax when they *spend their money* , which will further reduce the
benefit of dealing in other illegal stuff. There needs to be one type
of dollar for use inside America and one type(color) of dollars for use
outside the USA. That will make it harder for smugglers to get money out
of the country and if they do spend it here then they will pay the sales
tax and that money is used to enforce the laws to catch smugglers. We
are "right now" taking money from peoples pay checks before they get
them and at the same time we don't tax drug dealers or hookers and
illegals or others at all, we are penalizing the working Americans and
giving a bonus to illegal activity. Sales tax will also encourage saving
money rather than encouraging the leveraging of every dime you can
borrow like income tax does.
This will drive people in the underground economy to become part of the
real economy. It will stop most of the turf killings and end our
immigration problems with illegals stealing identities since they will
be paying tax(as sales tax). Offer illegals less welfare and charge them
tax and they won't be so eager to come here and we won't need to chase
them......
End Social Security/Medicare, grandfather it out of existence.
Pass an amendment to the constitution that makes all
*laws_and_treaties* have a seven year sunset clause, and it requires
that each law/treaty be voted by a separate roll call vote every seven
years to continue to be maintained in our laws.
There should also be some constitutional amendments to stifle congress'
borrowing and spending making it more difficult for that process. And a
constitutional amendment to limit the Interstate Commerce Clause. The
politicians use that clause to justify all sorts of socialist crap. The
founding fathers never meant for it to be so broadly applied. Limit it
with an amendment, so government can't justify every crazy idea by
saying its legal under the interstate commerce clause.
Pass another amendment creating term limits on congress so the House
has 6 terms and the Senate has 2 terms, for a total of 12 years in
either side of congress. WE NEED TO STOP CONGRESS FROM PASSING FRIVOLOUS
LAWS TAXES AND BORROWING AND ENDLESSLY PRINTING MONEY.
To quit filling the jails with people over *social taboos* , we
need to take away congress' ability to "social engineer" businesses or
private people by removing the governments use of tax code to manipulate
people.
Government needs to spend 10% less every year until they meet the
income of the government. The best way, is to
*use_both_cutting_and_taxing* , the Congress should implement a rule to
force an across the board spending freeze and then across the board cuts
on the government spending, to do that we have to include a law in our
TAX amendment to the constitution that can't be easily circumvented, to
force them to cut spending 3% for every 1% Congress raise taxes. So any
federal sales tax increase would result in automatic spending cuts using
a baseline of 10% taxes.
And we need to give up our roll as the police man of the world, let
them fight their own fights. We also need fewer crimes for people to be
committing, we need fewer police and prisons to support.... the above
drug and tax plan, will reduce police and prison needs by at least that
10% that this plan suggested cutting each year.
NO welfare to corporations, and cut welfare to private people by 10%
each year until it is 10% of today's cost. Any way you look at it, we're
in DEEP for a long time.
John Smith
NOTHING in the Constitution gives government the right to regulate
plants which God placed on the earth. It is the height of abuse,
control, illegal actions, etc. for any government to claim rights above
God ... ignorance is the only reason we now find ourselves in all this
crime and corruption ... perhaps, the feds could legitimately tax drugs
going over state lines, but that is the extent of any legal authority
they could ever argue.
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
I think any argument further than that the government simply has no
right to say anything, in the least, about plants placed here by the
creator is simply diverting truth and helping the criminals in government.
Education in schools about drugs is an excellent use of government ...
government serves a valuable service there. The illegal laws government
is unable to enforce are not ...
Regards,
JS
Beam Me Up Scotty
Low taxes benefit the government since the more the economy grows the
more money comes into the government, and the more jobs for people.
Cutting the military is NOT a bad idea if done intelligently, for
instance cutting NATO out of the Budget totally is a great idea.
Stop any military assistance/intelligence to the UN.
Bring troops home to bases built along OUR SOUTHERN BORDER, so we don't
need to hire more border patrol officers.
John Smith
>> ...
> You also omitted the cheap tax rates we have for the benefits all
> Americans receive from our government
>
>
Unfortunately, if we are to allow the illegal aliens and the export of
jobs overseas, the money in the few remaining hands will be forced to
support all of America. That simply can't be cut without bloodshed and
the outright destruction of society. If the funds become unavailable to
support society, then the society falls ... but then, in looking at what
is happening, certainly more than myself must suspect this may be the
ultimate plan ... frankly, I'd like to skip the hunger and poverty which
causes outright murder in the streets from occurring!
Cutting the ability of masses of people to obtain shelter, food,
clothing, medicines, etc. would create dangers which would restrict one
to a safe bunker! I tire of bunkers very quickly ...
Regards,
JS
Sid9
.
I see you have a complaint about American corporations.
These are the very same corporations that support Republicans in elections
and ship jobs overseas.
dave
By Mexican druglord pirates. Arrh! (Legalize drugs and end Mexican
violence overnight)
I'm not free, but I am competitive.
Beam Me Up Scotty
It seems a bit like cutting our redwood forest, when they try to
eliminate a naturally growing marijuana weed. It is equivalent to our
government going out and clubbing baby seals to keep us all safe from
seals, since they are destroying Marijuana plants just to make us safe.
John Smith
>> ...
> It seems a bit like cutting our redwood forest, when they try to
> eliminate a naturally growing marijuana weed. It is equivalent to our
> government going out and clubbing baby seals to keep us all safe from
> seals, since they are destroying Marijuana plants just to make us safe.
Oh, it is much, much worse than that. If drug addicts are left alone,
they usually only harm themselves or those who are willingly involved
with them.
With the government involved, and inflating the cost of drugs, the drug
addicts are committing crimes to get the money to afford their drugs.
They take a gun into a liquor store and make a "withdrawal" to get their
drugs. Or, they are down on a corner at your local school attempting to
sell drugs to kids to get the money to buy drugs. Or, they are
importing drugs, and exporting our money, to foreign countries to get
their drugs.
If you look at the whole picture, I'd say about 90% of all the dangers
associated with drugs, for the normal population, are created by
government itself! Up until the turn of the 1900's all drugs were
"legal." Some people became unwittingly addicted because these
addictive drugs were in medicines and foods they consumed and they were
not aware of it. So, government decided to save us all and make the
drugs illegal ... and now we are where we are at.
Educate people and legalize drugs ... there simply is not another sane
path to take.
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> By Mexican druglord pirates. Arrh! (Legalize drugs and end Mexican
> violence overnight)
>
> I'm not free, but I am competitive.
>
If the billions, and most likely trillions, were spent here instead of
in foreign countries, making them rich and us impoverished, it would
sure help the situation here! Legalizing drugs would have a positive
effect. In the countries where drugs are legal, these problems we have
are almost non-existent ... greatest kept secret, from the American
people, I have ever seen.
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> Low taxes benefit the government since the more the economy grows the
> more money comes into the government, and the more jobs for people.
>
>
> Cutting the military is NOT a bad idea if done intelligently, for
> instance cutting NATO out of the Budget totally is a great idea.
>
>
> Stop any military assistance/intelligence to the UN.
>
>
> Bring troops home to bases built along OUR SOUTHERN BORDER, so we don't
> need to hire more border patrol officers.
>
I'd say, "Good ideas!"
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> I see you have a complaint about American corporations.
> These are the very same corporations that support Republicans in
> elections and ship jobs overseas.
>
>
Yep, a real problem!
Regards,
JS
bpnjensen
> "John Smith" <assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Huzzah!
RHF
>
>"John Smith" <assembl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:i8njif$h97$7...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 10/8/2010 9:41 AM, Sid9 wrote:
>>
>> >> ...
>>> You also omitted the cheap tax rates we have for the benefits all
>>> Americans receive from our government
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, if we are to allow the illegal aliens and the export of
>> jobs overseas, the money in the few remaining hands will be forced to
>> support all of America. That simply can't be cut without bloodshed and
>> the outright destruction of society. If the funds become unavailable to
>> support society, then the society falls ... but then, in looking at what
>> is happening, certainly more than myself must suspect this may be the
>> ultimate plan ... frankly, I'd like to skip the hunger and poverty which
>> causes outright murder in the streets from occurring!
>>
>> Cutting the ability of masses of people to obtain shelter, food, clothing,
>> medicines, etc. would create dangers which would restrict one to a safe
>> bunker! I tire of bunkers very quickly ...
>>
>> Regards,
>> JS
>.
>.
-I see you have a complaint about American corporations.
-These are the very same corporations that support
- Republicans in elections and ship jobs overseas.
>
Last US Prez-A-Duntzal Election in 2008 : Prez Obama
Got More CorpaRATion Cash then Johnny McCain.
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/543
I wants one.I wants me a warbling Wartburg car, the Sporty model.
Jay Leno is getting a Garage Mahal makeover.The Do It Yourself channel.
cuhulin
John Smith
> ...
> I see you have a complaint about American corporations.
> These are the very same corporations that support Republicans in
> elections and ship jobs overseas.
>
>
Well, come on, the ONLY problem we have had, going back decades, is
republic-crats and demo-cans involved in politics ... if these two
groups would be left out, we would actually make some progress!
John Smith
Yanno'? Things tend to go in circles. Ya got your hula hoops. Ya got
your tops. You have your yoyos (and NOT all yoyos are objects), ya got
yer social circles, ya got, ya got, etc. ...
It happens, and some break loose and change things!
Regards,
JS
John Smith
>> ...
>> Fill up the treasury and empty out the jails. End drug crime...because
>> there'll be no money in it.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Huzzah!
Aye captain, full speed ahead!
Regards,
JS
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
>On 10/8/2010 8:35 AM, dave wrote:
>
>> ...
>> How do you propose cutting the deficit without raising taxes? Cut
>> grandma's Social Security? Veteran's benefits? The military?
>
>Cut programs to all special interest groups, homosexuals, lesbians,
>womens, prisoners, etc. Cut ALL foreign aid. Cut all minority
>programs. All arts, music funding ... programs to help post office
>workers buy homes ... TARP ... corporate welfare ...
And that would amount to maybe 5% of the deficit.
What else?
>It would be easy, with money left over ...
You're a moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>> You also omitted the cheap tax rates we have for the benefits all
>> Americans receive from our government
>
>Low taxes benefit the government since the more the economy grows the
>more money comes into the government, and the more jobs for people.
That's never worked.
Why do you cling to fairy tales that have been shown to be failures
again and again? Are you stupid or insane?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destro...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>> The GOP thrives on fear and hate. It's how they get votes.
>>>
>>> Is there a reason the Democrats are attacking Republicans for personal
>>> issues rather than running on your Democrat policy records.
>>
>
>Because you haven't told us the truth,
Where?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is there a reason the Democrats are attacking Republicans for personal
>>> issues rather than running on your Democrat policy records.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> usual candidates for office this time?
>>
>> The border is safer and ore secure than any time in history. Oil is
>> killing us. You are a tool.
>
Just one?!? Golly! There are about 20,000 murders every year in the US.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
cuh...@webtv.net
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=296815
When I was at boot camp, Fort Gordon,Georgia, Company Delta, 5th
Battlion,2nd Regiment, us lean mean fightin machines were told by a DI,
If you lose your Rifle (World War Two era MI-Garand Rifles were what we
trained with) or damage your Rifle, $147.00 WILL come out of your pay!
Those shootin irons are getting pricier and more pricier every day.
cuhulin
dave
>>
>
> Last US Prez-A-Duntzal Election in 2008 : Prez Obama
> Got More CorpaRATion Cash then Johnny McCain.
>
Why would they give money to the loser?
dave
Herbert Herbert Bush called it Voodoo Economics
dave
>>> The border is safer and ore secure than any time in history. Oil is
>>> killing us. You are a tool.
>>
>> A guy was just killed on a jet-ski at a BORDER LAKE.
>
> Just one?!? Golly! There are about 20,000 murders every year in the US.
>
Anybody who goes to Mexico, let alone a well known smuggling corridor,
on a pleasure craft, deserves a Darwin Award. WTF were these people
thinking?
Beam Me Up Scotty
Well DDDDdddddaaaahhhhhh. But the BORDER is Obviously not safer than
ever before.
Beam Me Up Scotty
H. W. Bush and his family are closet Progressives.
cuh...@webtv.net
and that was when I went down town to buy a license plate for my 1983
Dodge van I bought about three years ago, there is nothing down town I
care about, I may never go down town again.Screw that!) I might amble
around to that street (that street is in an area I really don't care to
go to, if you get me drift?) and see if that old dusty 1960's British
convertible sports car is still sitting in that garage by that old house
over there.
cuhulin
Ray Fischer
Statistics show that you're still wrong, rightard.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
dave
One incident is not a trend.
cuh...@webtv.net
Look and SEE.
cuhulin
John Smith
Moron? I suppose you are now going to tell me that the rich pay most of
the taxes for my roads, water, power, etc.?
The rich will tell you, the only cure is for them to get richer! When
money finally begins falling out of their bottoms, you can pick up all
you want! ROFLOL
DAMN FOOLS!
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> Statistics show that you're still wrong, rightard.
>
There is group on the web, they have spy cams placed all along the
borders in high traffic areas. You can actually sit their and count the
backpacks of drugs entering the US. It is funny to watch the little
indians struggle under the crushing weight of the drugs! I will try to
find that page and post it here ... should clear up any myths about it
being hard to smuggle anything in here. The amount of illegals crossing
with the drugs is staggering also ... if anyone stumbles across that
page, please post it here ... I forgot to bookmark it or even which
friend showed it to me ... I will be looking. I'd love to shut these
jack-arses up!
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> Regards,
> JS
Here is a similar page:
http://borderinvasionpics.com/
but the really good page has infrared night vision, real time cams,
along trails and cuts they are sneaking though.
Not like the worthless government cams, such as this:
http://www.texasborderwatch.com/
You'll know it when you see it ...
Regards,
JS
Ray Fischer
> Ray Fischer wrote:
>> John Smith<assembl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/8/2010 8:35 AM, dave wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...
>>>> How do you propose cutting the deficit without raising taxes? Cut
>>>> grandma's Social Security? Veteran's benefits? The military?
>>>
>>> Cut programs to all special interest groups, homosexuals, lesbians,
>>> womens, prisoners, etc. Cut ALL foreign aid. Cut all minority
>>> programs. All arts, music funding ... programs to help post office
>>> workers buy homes ... TARP ... corporate welfare ...
>>
>> And that would amount to maybe 5% of the deficit.
>>
>> What else?
>>
>>> It would be easy, with money left over ...
>>
>> You're a moron.
>
>Moron?
Moron, halfwit, liteweight, dimwit, cretin, idiot, stupid, slow ...
> I suppose you are now going to tell me that the rich pay most of
>the taxes for my roads, water, power, etc.?
I'm saying that you have no idea how to balance the federal budget.
All you can do is list all of the programs that you don't like. You
just parrot right wing propaganda.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>On 10/9/2010 10:54 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Statistics show that you're still wrong, rightard.
>>
>
>There is group on the web, they have spy cams placed all along the
>borders in high traffic areas. You can actually sit their and count the
>backpacks of drugs entering the US.
No you can't.
> It is funny to watch the little
>indians struggle under the crushing weight of the drugs! I will try to
You're a moron.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
DEFCON 88
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[...]
>
> I'm saying that you have no idea how to balance the federal budget.
>
[...]
Neither does Prezuhdink Imam Omaumau and the criminal Marxist Mafia
currently running our so-called "government".
John Smith
> ...
> Moron, halfwit, liteweight, dimwit, cretin, idiot, stupid, slow ...
>
>> I suppose you are now going to tell me that the rich pay most of
>> the taxes for my roads, water, power, etc.?
>
> I'm saying that you have no idea how to balance the federal budget.
> All you can do is list all of the programs that you don't like. You
> just parrot right wing propaganda.
>
Ya' know? The more I start thinkin' about chit, I'm a' thinkin' yer'
part of that group that's the problem! Don't 'cha know?
Regards,
JS
John Smith
> ...
> Neither does Prezuhdink Imam Omaumau and the criminal Marxist Mafia
> currently running our so-called "government".
It makes you wonder. Doesn't it? Just how long will we go on before
people figure out we are running on and no one is paying any attention?
When we hit the first "iceberg?"
The pilots' drunk and the crew have abandoned ship!
Regards,
JS