Cold Water Faucet For Ground
Count Floyd
Sound, Fl, one mile from the ocean and our water table is very high.
I think that the pipes in the house are copper, but if I get a ground
rod, how long should it be? My radio is a tube boatanchor, fully
restored, HE-10 and my principle interest is listening to the BCB, as
it does great there, but some shortwave.
Thanks,
Bob
--
cuh...@webtv.net
much they cost though.If the water pipes are connected to plastic pipes
to your source of water, they wont work for grounding.
cuhulin
RHF
SWL -Newbies- Using a Cold Water Service Pipe For Grounding Point
CF / Bob,
READ : SWL -Newbies- The Ground Rod is First
and Formost for Electrical Safety and it can also
Help to Improve your Radio Reception.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3fc23d487859bed8
NEC Standard Ground Rod is Copper Clad Steel :
5/8" Diameter by 8 Feet Long
Pre-1960s Homes most like have 'old' Metal Water Pipes
and Post-1970s Homes may have Plastic "PVC" Pipes.
* Correcting Ground Wire Problems
http://tinyurl.com/4g7ecb
-IF- You can 'find' the Metal Cold Water Pipe that
is coming into the House : Usually Outside the
Foundation somewhere around the front ot side
of the House.
Hint - There is all ready a Ground Clamp attached there.
IIRC - This Water Service Pipe is usually 1 1/2" in Diameter
-IF- The Pipe is Plastic : It can NOT be used as a Ground.
-IF- The Pipe is Steel/Iron {Test with a Magnet} : It can be
used as a Ground. Clean the Outer Surface of the Pipe
with in a Few Inches of the Ground. Use a Brase Ground
Clamp around the Pipe
Steel/Iron Pipe Ground Clamp made of Cast Brass
Ground Clamp is designed for for Steel/Iron Pipe
http://www.doityourself.com/invt/u377358
-IF- This Pipe is Copper -Caution- Use the Right Clamp.
Thinner Copper Pipe type of Ground Clamp
http://www.doityourself.com/invt/2188167
Alternative -connection-to- Copper Water Pipe
Or simply use 3~4 SS Hose Clamps about a 1/2"
apart with a doubled-over Bare Copper Ground Wire.
* Water Service Pipe Installation - Underground Water Service
http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/admincode/077/077008900I11500R.html
* Domestic Water Service and Distribution
http://www.copper.org/applications/plumbing/apps/dom_h2o_distrn.htm
The Ground Wire should be one-continous-piece
of Copper Wire from your Grounding Point to your
Radio Shack or Antenna.
# 10 AWG -if- least than 8 Feet Long -then-
# 8 AWG -if- least than 16 Feet Long -then-
# 6 AWG -if- least than 24 Feet Long -then-
# 4 AWG -if- least than 32 Feet Long
-Note- Anything beyond 30 Feet consider
using a separate Ground Rod.
start by building your radio shack from the ground up
and be well grounded - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
.
Are You Interested in building a better Shortwave Listening*
(SWL) Antenna ? {SWL Group} => http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
GoTo => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
RHF's Standard "Shortwave Radio Listener (SWL) Antennas Group"
Reference Message Signature-Line => http://tinyurl.com/25zbrg
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/411dac3b4a1798e0
.
* Remember 55.5% of Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL)
is the Shortwave Antenna =>http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
.
RHF's Radio Shack in Twain Harte, California -USA-
SHACK INFO =>http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm
Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info
.
-=2SKMXM=-
-=25ZBRG=-
SWR3:SWL:INFO
.
Telamon
<ea7596ff-faae-4211...@n14g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Apr 18, 8:10 pm, "Count Floyd"
> <CountFl...@MonsterChillerHorrorTheater.com> wrote:
> > I am the OP, and wanted to put some more details in. I am in Hobe
> > Sound, Fl, one mile from the ocean and our water table is very high.
> > I think that the pipes in the house are copper, but if I get a ground
> > rod, how long should it be? My radio is a tube boatanchor, fully
> > restored, HE-10 and my principle interest is listening to the BCB, as
> > it does great there, but some shortwave.
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> > --
>
> SWL -Newbies- Using a Cold Water Service Pipe For Grounding Point
>
> CF / Bob,
>
> READ : SWL -Newbies- The Ground Rod is First
> and Formost for Electrical Safety and it can also
> Help to Improve your Radio Reception.
< SNIP >
Never take technical advice from an idiot.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
RHF
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <ea7596ff-faae-4211-a340-6152ee761...@n14g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > On Apr 18, 8:10 pm, "Count Floyd"
> > <CountFl...@MonsterChillerHorrorTheater.com> wrote:
> > > I am the OP, and wanted to put some more details in. I am in Hobe
> > > Sound, Fl, one mile from the ocean and our water table is very high.
> > > I think that the pipes in the house are copper, but if I get a ground
> > > rod, how long should it be? My radio is a tube boatanchor, fully
> > > restored, HE-10 and my principle interest is listening to the BCB, as
> > > it does great there, but some shortwave.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob
> > > --
>
> > SWL -Newbies- Using a Cold Water Service Pipe For Grounding Point
>
> > CF / Bob,
>
> > READ : SWL -Newbies- The Ground Rod is First
> > and Formost for Electrical Safety and it can also
> > Help to Improve your Radio Reception.
>
-
- Never take technical advice from an idiot.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-
Telamon -recommends- "Never take technical advice from an idiot."
Then Tealamon - Never Talk To Yourself ~ RHF
-ps- polluting another thread again
with your personal attacks on me.
.
Telamon
<7b575486-a537-4cac...@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Telamon -recommends- "Never take technical advice from an idiot."
>
> Then Tealamon - Never Talk To Yourself ~ RHF
>
> -ps- polluting another thread again
> with your personal attacks on me.
Come up with a valid reason then retard. You can't do that can you.
You give bad advice and you can't back it up. What a freaking retard.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
RHF
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <7b575486-a537-4cac-8151-ae8fe7828...@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
- You give bad advice and you can't back it up. What a freaking
retard.
-
- --
- Telamon "The Chief Resident-in-Charge of Alt.Local.Village.Idiot"
- Ventura, California
-
PONG : Telamon - "You give bad advice and you can't back it up.
What a freaking retard."
.
-ps- polluting another thread again
with your personal attacks on me.
.
--pps-- Telamon I see that you have taken up the role
of "The Chief Resident-in-Charge of Alt.Local.Village.Idiot"
again by posting your Follow-Up Replies to your Homies.
.
Telamon
<1dace610-3db6-4a0a...@a5g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
Pong right back at ya retard. I don't see any technical backup of your
statements above so put a sock in it until you can do it. Retard.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
m II
> Never take technical advice from an idiot.
>
or abuse from an alcoholic
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
Om Shanti Om
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
m II
So? The ninety nine percent asshole portion makes the point moot, you drunk.
Does Lincoln turn over in his grave every time you say 'nigger' and
'niggah'?
The Wit and Wisdom of Steve Lare, aka dxAce,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander, United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA
(Updated regularly):
=================================================
I ain't white, but unlike you, I dislike no one.
Fuckin' dumbass.
You are certainly an SOB, you stupid, MF'ing, liar and poseur!
WRNO FM 99.5 became Rush Radio today.
Rush mentioned it on the show, and also seemed to say that at least
for a while they'd be carrying his show for 18 hours a day.
Your birth trait is that you're a MORON, dumbass.
Wonder why.... could it be that the Canucky Niggah is timid, afraid...?
Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
Sorry, I'm not a racist like you, Edweenie...
In your case that must mean Hispanic Retard department.
Damn, the Canucky Niggah didn't have a damn thing to say...
Something for your faux Hispanic cock sucking brain to think about, eh?
Blow it out yer ass, Canuck!
All your talk comes from within the contours of your ass.
You dumb sand niggers (sorry, I categorize ya all this way) need to
understand that you need to get your collective shit together...
Yes, I am witty, and I am wise!
my mommy blew it out her ass II wrote:
I prefer genuine ROLEX!
True, ain't it, little faux Hispanic BOY.. (Heavy emphasis on the BOY!)
I said it before, and I say it again... Vicente Fox
is a stinking piece of Mexican shit.
Stuff a taco in it, Ramon!
And don't forget SAMBLA, South American Man Boy Love Association.
Mouth wide open, ready to take a load.
Difficult for moi?
After eating the taco's wouldn't they be capable of gassing themelves?
It is then my patriotic friend, you must reach in the closet,
place your hands upon the weapon, and blow the cock sucking,
bean blower back into Mary's arms....
They are mere asswipes, suitable for flushing.
How many American lives were affected by the
slant eyed shit throughout the entire war?
Dumbass Canucks, sure ain't Rolex wearin' respectable folk...!
Or better yet, go get yourself some IBO Cock!
Yeah, after all, you're the Queen of your drug addled world.
And that has exactly what to do with the fact that CanaDuh is a
Third World Country?
Canucks need to be castrated.
Shame? Sorry, I'm not a dumbass Canuck. Blow me, boy.
Hey, buttfuck boy... try to pay attention, you little piece of
non-listening excrement.
Actually VA facilities are quite good, but if you Canucky niggahs poke
around one might find a lot of things wrong.
Why are the retards mostly dumbass Canucks?
Run along little Canucky dweeb.
One of my nicknames, starting around 1975 or so has been 'Raoul'
Well, now you know them, and you know me, Karl Mauritania!
Obviously you're just a retard boy who failed as a corporate manager.
Did I say it was, shit for brains?
I thank the Great Spirit every day for the fact that I'm not white like
you.
Because you're a moron, Druggie!
Ace is doing ok!
They don't call me 'Ace' for nothing!
And you, just another retard on the short bus.
All of my DX is better than your DX no matter what I do.
Well, I cann assure most everyone here that I've done 100% of my DX'ing
without the help from anyone here, and I've had a moderate amount of
success.
You claim to be 'Cherokee'... I think you're just 'Wannabee'...
No need to do anything more productive than cash the checks,
invest the money, do some DX'ing, and rile up the
mentally ill Canucks!
Why is it that you queers always seem to **SIGH** a lot? (1)
LOLOLOLOLOLOL... what a damn dumb cunt you are!
Now get your homo ass working on that documentation, boy!
Give it a shot queer boys, I dare ya!Very tasty!
Cocksuckers such as your self.
Hit the road, 'tard.
Toss 'em all, especially the Canucks!
So, just why is it that you queers always seem to **SIGH** a lot? (2)
Now go suck on some sushi, you little miscreant.
I just asked you to have the cunt send me a letter, boy.
So, just why is it that you queers always seem to **SIGH** a lot? (3)
"I'm so obese I had to get the extra heavy duty plastic blow-up doll"
Let me sum up, you Canucks are assholes!
So, just why is it that you queers always seem to **SIGH** a lot? (4)
Hit the road, drug addled fool.
Shame on CanaDuh for killing thousands of people every day.
Be sure to tell the bitch to send me that letter, faggot!
get your bitch *daughter* to send me a letter
Inquiring minds want to know just why is it that you queers always
seem to **SIGH** a lot? (5)
Have the bitch send me the letter!
Well, go tell your other cocksucking countrymen.
Hey, have the bitch send me a letter
I can show her mine, and she can show me yours?
Ain't gonna happen, ya got no air farce, ya got no ne vuy, va goy
nuthitin?
If you think for a moment that they'll listen to a drunken dumbass
Canuck you'd be sadly mistaken!
Have the bitch send me a f00kin letter!
You folk really think ya got balls?
Now run along to wherever it is you little debutantes run off to...
I'll be waiting for that letter from your *daughter*, asshole!
Oh yeah, tell me baby...
Hey, little pussy boy, we spell it "cunt" out here, just like I think I
spelled it originally, boy.
Never touched the skanky,,,
If I don't get that letter, boy, then you and your *daughter* must
both be drunk, eh?
Finally shut you up, eh boy?
Have the bitch send me a letter on whatever letterhead YOU
might make up.
Ain't that just speshul! He's got to go find somewun to
fake him a lettter.
Have the bitch send me a letter on her firms letterhead, boy.
Great, then get your bitch *daughter* to send me a letter on her firms
letterhead within the next two weeks!
Have your *daughter* draw up a contract, BOY!
Hey, 'Edurado', have your *daughter* get in touch with me, amigo
Guess that shut the little boy up!
Stuff it up your prancing ass, 'Tardo!
I'm LMFAO, since I've busted the f00kin faggot!
You are after all a drug addled 'tard boy who
obviously knows little about the SWL/DX hobby.
Go blow some IBO Cock, and leave the real radio hobbyists alone, OK?
Let the faggot boy prove it!
LMFAO at the f00kin faggot
Yes, I learn more and more with each passing day!
LMFAO at the pathological liar!
Lying 'tard boy, much like the other debutante, malcontent, faux boys
who inhabit the lace we call RRS.
You, on the other hand are nothing more than a sorry little
homosexual 'tard
Liar, liar, pantalunes on fire! (1)
New history will be made when we crush CanaDuh!
Kan you just imagining that, you little faggot Cannucky boy?
Anybody, even Bozo, is worth more than some dumbass, faggot, Canuck!
Get busy, boy!
But you can't prove it, retard boy!
I know you faggots have dreams
Blow it out your ass, you dumbass Canadian! You and the rest of your
dumbass countrymen, and women too!
You'd not be very happy if I returned, little bitch boy!
Go get some IBOCock, 'tard boy, and bring home a taste for yer mama.
If you'd like to call me, I'm here to help you until 0330 GMT at:
616 335-9762
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Go give your boyfriend a blow job!
Talk about misery, you're in f00kin CanaDuh, boy!
Poor little cocksucker just had it handed to him
Eh? You sum dumass Canucuy bithyboy...
As long as it screws you Canucks, I'm a happy camper!
That's because you're a fucking liar!
Cry me a f00kin river.
Awwwww... the poor whiny dumbass Canuck is back at it again today.
Huh... you be just another stupid white boy outta Cleveland...
I suggest you get together with your "significant other" and bump butt
with each other,
Because I hate White Boy Canucks who suck cock...
Best you shuffle down the alley! That's what your mama wanted!
Crazy Retarded Australian People?
"Even 2 cents is more than a totally worthless Canuck"
Funny how the US Govt. sent me over $50,000 last year
You can preDICK all you want, you fraudulent cock sucking,
pathologically lying old bastard boy!
Hey, dumbfuck Canuck, I was not asked to leave!
I don't use Chink stuff
I went and bought ammo... I still gots it case them tard boys such as
edweena gets stirred up.
And 10,000 rounds isn't a lot.
It was Russian ammo. I don't like the Chinese stuff.
Now where did I put that other case of ammo..
I don't use Chink ammo.
That's not Canuckian, boy!
Kiss my ass, pedant!
I'm LMFAO, Mr. Gay-Lick!
Obfuscate, you little prancer!
LMAO at the 'tard.
Thing is, you 'tards are pretty fixated upon one set of parameters.
That is after all why you are considered to be 'tards!
As always, your head is up your f00kin ass.
You fuckin' Liberal asswipes are always ready to give somebodys else's
goodies away...
And, hopefully, my dumbass cousin in Mill Valley will leave me her
Corvette.
Obviously, you leep your head up your f00kin ass all day long.
I don't 'fear' homos, oh faux one!
Liar, liar, pantalunes on fire! (2)
Apparently you are the 'bendover boy'....
Do you spit or swallow?
Oh, I certainly have, time after time.
At least I went farther than you!
Good lubricant for you and the boys?
It's what dxAce uses!
that's good enough for me!
One can never slide the BS by dxAce
Not as well as you, fudge pack.
Go for it, dumbass!
Oh come on... it's Fall forward and Spring back. Everyone knows that!
Hit the road, drug addled fool.
Hey, I love kickin' gay-lick ass!
Pretty much what I indicated to you a while back, you f00kin prancer.
The only thing you know about short wave is that that is what your
mother gave you when she sent your f00kin ass packin' outta Cleveland.
Screw the drug addled retards.
Nah, I only attack the messenger when he/she/it is
obviously drug addled.
So, beat the rush and get the hell off of RRS, you f00kin retard.
Well, in you, we have a drug addled retard in our midst.
Get over it, you fake Hispanic piece of excrement.
And when you do confront HD, you'll have Cocksucker Dave and
The Prancer Boys to thank for it.
Damn... I'm of mixed race ancestry myself, what ever should I do?
Next time we come over the pond once again to save your sorry ass's
we'll have to dismantle that stuff.
Heck, I bought 1000 shares of FSEAX the other day.
Don't do business with the Huntington Investment Company,
in particular a fellow named Joseph Klein.
Not at all, we are both Miami Indians. ya got a problem with that, boy?
Ya right, suck my dick...
Believe it, it's like a dream to be with you again...
Very tasty!
Then hit the road, you drug addled retard.
Just like you wish that you worked for me, retard!
Proven time and time again, fudge pack.
Get it, retard?
Dey done unnerstannn that us nateev boyyys R real Mericans!
I sure he is.
Insert your Gay-Lick reply here, boy:
And yet another Liberal rant
Nah, he was fake little cock sucker like you!
Your pathological lying is an offense to me, and more than likely an
offense to God as well.
No medications here, cock sucker boy..
Stuff a watermelon up it
But that stuff isn't what dxAce uses!
Come on now, you being a nice Liberal, Carbon Footprint, Al Gore, Cock
Sucking kinda Canuck Bastard..
I won R plantation up nord, dat dem dum ass Canuckys be oween us, ya be
'standin me?
CanaDuh is stupidity!
Stupid little pussy faggot!
Liar, liar, pantalunes on fire! (3)
Mr. Edweenie, the forces of Good are gonna come visit your sorry fake
Hispanic White Boy Ass if you keep it up!
Pay attention, cock sucker...
LMFAO as I sit and look at my royalty cheques...
You've done this before, cock sucker...
LMFAO at yet another dumb friggin Canuck..
I know it may be hard, but as you withdraw, it will shrink away..
I spit a wee bit of Guinness earlier!
Oh damn, I guess we pissed another wanker off, Cuz..
I get my ride be fixed, I be cruisin to be givin ya da shake, yu be
knowin, eh?
Try again, shithead.....
Dem Canucky boyz are dumaz rasissts..
We gone be sen u to sumplac bad boy... u be so bad weben the reel
Canuckys won wan u.
Fookin bustards! Like Edweenie!
Best you wake up soon... fookin retard leetle beetch..
Fookin 'retard.
Indeed, I'm now at WAR with Canuckistan..
May the Great Spirit help the hapless bastards.
At any rate, I'd bet it beats the Canucky Third World state of care...
CanaDuh sucks...
Wanna go to war, shit head?
Think you might win? Think you got a chance?
If you don't... I'd keep my fookin Canucky mouth shut, boy...
Meanwhile, I plan for the Spring campaign, looking forward to the
Blind River Massacre.
I collect stamps!
*********************************************
=============================================
08/02/15 10:58 PM
I really don't want to say this, my many shortwave friends, but I find
that I am giving up far to much of my increasingly valuable time here
on RRS trying to educate the faux, the debutantes, and those who tote..
Therefore, I've simply decided to give up RRS.
Goodbye, I sincerely hope that you all find your niche in
the world of SW.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
=============================================
*********************************************
dxAce
m II wrote:
> dxAce wrote:
> >
> > m II wrote:
> >
> >> Telamon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Never take technical advice from an idiot.
> >>>
> >> or abuse from an alcoholic
> >
> > Om Shanti Om
> >
> > dxAce
> > Michigan
> > USA
> >
> > Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
> >
>
> So? The ninety nine percent asshole portion makes the point moot, you drunk.
And you, 100% dumbass Canuck!
m II
>>> Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
>>>
>> So? The ninety nine percent asshole portion makes the point moot, you drunk.
>
> And you, 100% dumbass Canuck!
You dropped something, drunk.....
here it is:
Does Lincoln turn over in his grave every time you say 'nigger' and
'niggah'?
The Wit and Wisdom of Steve Lare, aka dxAce,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander, United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA
(Updated regularly):
=================================================
I ain't white, but unlike you, I dislike no one.
Fuckin' dumbass.
You are certainly an SOB, you stupid, MF'ing, liar and poseur!
WRNO FM 99.5 became Rush Radio today.
Rush mentioned it on the show, and also seemed to say that at least
for a while they'd be carrying his show for 18 hours a day.
Your birth trait is that you're a MORON, dumbass.
Wonder why.... could it be that the Canucky Niggah is timid, afraid...?
Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
Sorry, I'm not a racist like you, Edweenie...
RHF
> m II wrote:
> > Telamon wrote:
>
> > > Never take technical advice from an idiot.
>
> > or abuse from an alcoholic
>
> Om Shanti Om
>
> dxAce
> Michigan
> USA
- Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
Nancy Hanks Lincoln*
http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/Lincoln81.html
* Mother of President Lincoln
* * The Legend of a Mountain Girl and her Baby
http://www.melungeons.com/articles/mar2005.htm
* * * Melungeon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melungeon
http://www.melungeons.com/
http://www.melungeon.org/
http://www.melungeons.com/articles/jan2003.htm
A Challenge to Abraham Lincoln's {Lily White} Ancestry
http://www.genealogytoday.com/us/lincoln/index.html
http://www.genealogytoday.com/us/lincoln/indpress.html
http://www.genealogytoday.com/us/lincoln/abepart3.html
.
m II
> - Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
>
> Nancy Hanks Lincoln*
Any record of her being raped by a braying jackass?
mike
dxAce
m II wrote:
Your momma?
Rusty Nutsack
> dxAce wrote:
>
>>>> Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
>>>>
>>> So? The ninety nine percent asshole portion makes the point moot, you drunk.
>>
>> And you, 100% dumbass Canuck!
>
>
>
> You dropped something, drunk.....
>
>
> here it is:
>
>
> Does Lincoln turn over in his grave every time you say 'nigger' and
> 'niggah'?
Get a room you two....
Telamon
Then you should not be posting here.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
No, he is only 50% dumbass Canuck. The other 50% is Labatt's doing the
talking.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
> dxAce wrote:
>
> >>> Proud to be Miami and a blood relative of Abraham Lincoln
> >>>
> >> So? The ninety nine percent asshole portion makes the point moot, you
> >> drunk.
> >
> > And you, 100% dumbass Canuck!
>
>
>
> You dropped something, drunk.....
< SNIP >
Being drunk and hung over is your problem so stop projecting.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
Rusty Nutsack <Ru...@sack.net> wrote:
I'll get the room number so you join them.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
Why are you asking him? Perverted subject matter is your territory.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
John Kasupski
<rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>-IF- You can 'find' the Metal Cold Water Pipe that
>is coming into the House : Usually Outside the
>Foundation somewhere around the front ot side
>of the House.
>
>Hint - There is all ready a Ground Clamp attached there.
>
>IIRC - This Water Service Pipe is usually 1 1/2" in Diameter
>
>-IF- The Pipe is Plastic : It can NOT be used as a Ground.
>
>-IF- The Pipe is Steel/Iron {Test with a Magnet} : It can be
>used as a Ground. Clean the Outer Surface of the Pipe
>with in a Few Inches of the Ground. Use a Brase Ground
>Clamp around the Pipe
>
>-IF- This Pipe is Copper -Caution- Use the Right Clamp.
You forgot one:
-IF- There is a thunderstorm and you have done this, run for the
hills, and pray that lightning doesn't strike a fire hydrant down the
street from you, so that you might actually have a home to return to
after the storm has passed.
Cold water pipes make poor grounds in most cases. Electrical service
joints also make poor grounds, and it's for the same reasons - the
leads are too long and the wire size is too small. That's before you
even begin to consider that the integrity of the ground connection is
often compromised by age, poor initial installation, corrosion,
dissimilar metal conversion, loose screws, etc.
Remember that whatever you use for a ground becomes part of the
antenna structure. Using a cold water pipe for a ground virtually
guarantees that you are going to suck in a ton of ground-level
radiation in the form of RF noise - and should you ever transmit on an
antenna that's grounded to a cold water pipe, you're certain to cause
interference to other services or neighbors.
The Phone Company ground at the network interface) is not a good
choice either. It may not even be attached to anything.
For what it's worth, the National Electrical Code NFPA 70-2002,
Section 250.130(C) does not permit the equipment grounding conductor
of a nongrounding receptacle or branch circuit extension to be
connected to a cold-water pipe, and prohibits using interior metal
water piping more than 5 feet from the point of entrance to a building
as part of the grounding electrode system. The use of water pipes as
an equipment grounding conductor also violates OSHA 1910.303(a), as
they are not listed for this purpose by nationally recognized testing
laboratories such as UL.
Don't screw around with shortcuts. Make the effort to construct a good
RF ground. in the long run, you'll be glad you did.
73 DE KC2HMZ
RHF
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It is best not to Think of the Antenna and the Ground as two
separate things -but- as the Antenna-&-Ground System.
A Chain of Items forming a Complete Low Resistance Path
-from- Antenna-in-the-Air -to- Ground-Rod-in-the-Ground.
The Eight Foot Copper-Clad Steel Ground Rod is not
the last Link in the System : The Ground {Soil} itself is.
The amount of Surface Area and it's Effectiveness
between the Ground Rod and the Ground {Soil} is
every bit as important as the Size (Length Thicknees)
of the Ground Wire-Strap.
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