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Charles J. Coumbe

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May 26, 2002, 12:29:57 PM5/26/02
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I have a Radio Shack dipole antenna I have been using on my BC855XLT
for the past few years with no problems (except for the fact that
there's really not much to listen to up here in Fairbanks, Alaska!).
I am in the process of acquiring a new BC245XLT next week and am
wondering if I can connect both scanners to the same antenna. One of
the reasons I'm getting a new scanner is related to the fact that I'm
getting ready to move to Omaha, Nebraska next month and will
most-likely have a lot more to listen to once all my stuff arrives
and I get everything setup again.

Anyway, if connecting both scanners to the same antenna is not a
problem, what kind of splitter should I use? I suppose it would be
quite similar to connecting two TVs to the same antenna except for
the fact that the cables are quite different.

I've got a Radio Shack up here where I can purchase the required
parts, but the folks who work there aren't very technically
proficient. :-(

Thanks!!!!

Charles
Fairbanks, Alaska

p.s.--If anyone wants the Eielson AFB military freqs, email me.

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JohnL

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May 26, 2002, 1:15:11 PM5/26/02
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On Sun, 26 May 2002 04:29:57 -0400, Charles J. Coumbe wrote:

> Anyway, if connecting both scanners to the same antenna is not a
> problem, what kind of splitter should I use? I suppose it would be
> quite similar to connecting two TVs to the same antenna except for
> the fact that the cables are quite different.

Take a look at www.stridesberg.com/prod01.htm. Unfortunately you won't
find these at Radio Shack, however these are the splitters you are looking
for. They protect each rig from the other(s) and come in passive and
amplified models covering HF, VHF, UHF, and 800 MHz in different models.

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GeorgeF

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May 26, 2002, 4:41:58 PM5/26/02
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Hi,
I wrote an article about connecting 2 ants to one scanner. You can read
this artical at http://www.milaircomms.com/review_stridsberg_mca204.html

Thanks,
George
http://www.MilAirComms.com <- HF, VHF, UHF Military Freqs and MORE!

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Charles J. Coumbe

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May 26, 2002, 4:37:06 PM5/26/02
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I didn't think I could just use a standard BNC "T".

Thanks for the info, guys!!!

Charles

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>
> A multicoupler will do the job.
>
> http://www.grove-ent.com/page36.html
>


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May 26, 2002, 8:37:31 PM5/26/02
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I assume your using coax. Easiest would be a (cable) A/B switch at your
listening station.

Hank

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GeorgeF

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May 26, 2002, 9:13:51 PM5/26/02
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Charles J. Coumbe wrote:

> I didn't think I could just use a standard BNC "T".
>
> Thanks for the info, guys!!!
>
> Charles


Actually you can however there are costs to doing so. Just check out
my artical on this subject at
http://www.milaircomms.com/review_stridsberg_mca204.html as I mention
in the artical when you can and can't use a BNC T connector.

Thanks,
George
http://www.MilAirComms.com <- HF, VHF, UHF MilAir Freqs and MORE!


Max Imo

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May 27, 2002, 8:08:23 AM5/27/02
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What would be wrong with using a VHF/UHF amplifier and an inexpensive
splitter?


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Jake Brodsky

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May 28, 2002, 10:26:16 AM5/28/02
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On Mon, 27 May 2002 08:08:23 -0400, "Max Imo" <n...@this.com> wrote:

>What would be wrong with using a VHF/UHF amplifier and an inexpensive
>splitter?

In a word: "isolation"

Your scanners will leak a certain amount of it's local oscillator.
For the purposes of most immediate listeners, it's only a milliwatt or
two. However, when you apply that kind of signal on the same coaxial
cable as another scanner, you'll start hearing all sorts of
interference products from each of the two scanners.

These interference products will result in phantom signals with dead
air or possibly IMD products with other existing signals.

My suggestion is that since these scanners are different brands, with
different IF and LO systems: try it. If it doesn't work, get a real
multicoupler with an appropriate high isolation splitter. And by the
way, beware of those inexpensive amplifiers. They often increase IMD
problems. As amplifiers go, you don't need much gain. If your
multicoupler has only four ports, you should have no more than seven
dB of gain from the amplifier (a signal split four ways would see six
decibels of attenuation plus an additional one decibel for connector
and other miscellaneous losses).


Jake Brodsky, AB3A mailto:fru...@erols.com
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Hank

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May 28, 2002, 11:22:57 AM5/28/02
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Not that I'm an expert, but as I had posted, a cable A/B switch would
provide total isolation, and be much cheaper than an amplifier and splitter.

Hank

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GeorgeF

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May 28, 2002, 2:25:53 PM5/28/02
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Hank wrote:

> Not that I'm an expert, but as I had posted, a cable A/B switch would
> provide total isolation, and be much cheaper than an amplifier and splitter.
>
> Hank


But with an A/B switch you couldn't use both scanners at the same
time.... Want cheap, just unscrew the connector from one scanner and
screw it to the other.... can't get much cheaper....


George
http://www.MilAirComms.com <- HF VHF UHF Military Freqs and more.


Hank

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May 28, 2002, 4:11:06 PM5/28/02
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GeorgeF wrote in message <3CF3CBB1...@licensed4fun.com>...

I don't believe he wants to listen to 2 at a time. BTW, isn't unscrewing
from one and connecting to another, one at a time?

Me again
>
>


Charles J. Coumbe

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May 29, 2002, 1:51:38 AM5/29/02
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Sheesh! I didn't think I was going to really start something with a simple
question. :-)

I think I have learned quite a bit just by reading everyone's various
responses.

Once I get moved to Nebraska next month, I'll have to get one of the
couplers so I can use both scanners simultaneously. Until then, I'll use
the "cheap" method - disconnect the antenna from one scanner and connect it
to the other.

Thanks for everything, guys!!!

Charles
Fairbanks, Alaska -- Soon-to-be Omana, Nebraska :-)

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Book

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May 29, 2002, 3:41:29 AM5/29/02
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My local council would have something to say about that...

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Book
"Glenn" <ggr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Charles,
>
> You just need to put up a second antenna! You never can have
> too many antennas.
>
>
> Glenn


mike_m.

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Jun 1, 2002, 6:46:38 AM6/1/02
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I've been using a regular TV hybrid splitter with good results for
several years. I use RG-6 coax and "F" to BNC adapters to connect to
the scanners. There is some signal loss, but unless you are in a
really weak signal area it works fine.

Ed Rodrigues

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:06:45 PM6/2/02
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Mike M. wrote in message news:<3cf877d5...@news.charter.net>...

Using the TV Splitter is no real problem and works just fine with the
RG-6 75ohm cable. About the only problems you get into running
passive splitters occurs when certain frequencies generated by one
scanner gets into the other scanner and locks it up. If you're in a
real hot-bed of transmitters (like you live next to the Police
Dispatch Office) you can have problems where the energy from those
transmitters goes into your receiver and mixes with other frequencies
subsequently generating frequencies (intermodulation frequencies)
which once again locks up your scanners or makes a bunch of crazy
noise.
I personally am running 12 (twelve) scanners via 3 passive TV
splitters with a 30db amplifier in front of the splitters. I do not
have a lot of trouble with "on-site" interference though there is
some. I do not live in or near an RF HOTBED. As long as you live in
a fairly benign RF area it isn't a real killer issue.

Ed/Atwater, CA
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> >
> >

michael

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Jun 8, 2002, 3:30:06 AM6/8/02
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what kind of amplifier ?

make, model, freq range ?

Thanks


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