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Dumbing down licensing will just let in people that really don't want to be hams.

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Slow Code

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Aug 20, 2006, 6:50:37 PM8/20/06
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So why do it?

SC

Bakb0ne

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Aug 20, 2006, 10:35:23 PM8/20/06
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Slow Code wrote:
> So why do it?
>
> SC

Just wondering...

Do you really think what you post on a newsgroup is going to make ANY
difference in the real world...

Just because you bitch and moan on here, isnt going to make them revise
the licensing rules..

Get over it and move on...

Douche Bag

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:06:27 PM8/20/06
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Because Ham radio is dying. If you make it easier, you can attract more
losers who may have joined earlier. Shortwave and Ham radio is dead. If
you ask the man on the street what AM or FM is? They can answer you
,it"s what the hear on their car radio. The difference is the buttons
on the radio. If you ask them what shortwave is? They would not have a
fucking clue. It's DEAD. Get a life.

Brenda Ann

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:17:33 PM8/20/06
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Just say NO to HD/IBOC!
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Maybe if you ask the average lame clueless bastard in the US. Shortwave and
amateur radio are alive and well and flourishing in other parts of the
world. Indeed, in many countries SW is still the system of choice to cover a
wide area.


an old friend

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Aug 21, 2006, 1:55:45 AM8/21/06
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Slow Code wrote:
> So why do it?
but nobody is proposing to do that
>
> SC

EchoBlip

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Aug 21, 2006, 10:34:08 AM8/21/06
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> Because Ham radio is dying.

E V E R Y T H I N G D I E S

I also hear the buggy whip industry is doing pretty lousy except in
Lancaster, PA.


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MnMikew

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Aug 21, 2006, 4:04:20 PM8/21/06
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They don't call him slowcode for nothing.


Ma...@kb9rqz.com

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Aug 21, 2006, 4:54:26 PM8/21/06
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:20 -0500, "MnMikew" <mnmi...@aol.com>
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his other nick saying better that is one is Hey Stupid
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

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Slow Code

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Aug 21, 2006, 7:44:48 PM8/21/06
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"EchoBlip" <E...@ruckmail.com> wrote in
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Why do we want to let in people that don't want to be hams?

SC

Ma...@kb9rqz.com

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Aug 21, 2006, 7:50:46 PM8/21/06
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:44:48 GMT, Slow Code <my....@no.spam> wrote:

>"EchoBlip" <E...@ruckmail.com> wrote in
>news:AvjGg.9708$%j7....@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
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>>> Because Ham radio is dying.
>>
>> E V E R Y T H I N G D I E S
>>

>>
>>
>
>
>


>Why do we want to let in people that don't want to be hams?

red herring

why are we exclding people able to be ham nd that want to for no
reason at all
>
>SC

mikeFNB

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Aug 21, 2006, 7:55:27 PM8/21/06
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all sounds a bit fishy to me
eal issue
red herring

mike

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Douche Bag

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Aug 21, 2006, 9:01:26 PM8/21/06
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IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?

an old friend

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Aug 21, 2006, 9:04:43 PM8/21/06
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Douche Bag wrote:
> IT'S DEAD. Get a life. You learned code for nothing. Where's my iPod?
wel you got that part aprt Code being dead but the ARS is still alive
dispite the efforts of Sloaw code Robeson and others to kill it

Bakb0ne

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Aug 21, 2006, 10:19:19 PM8/21/06
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Isnt that the main point tho.... they have no power to do anything...

They are just sad ppl with nothing better to do. Next they will be
saying that
you should have to pay a monthly fee to use the airwaves...

Maybe have a subscription fee, that would stop most of the scum (yeh
right)

an old friend

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Aug 21, 2006, 10:56:49 PM8/21/06
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well a GMRS like license would surely do better asa filter than the
code test look at the code tested ham we have on the air now

Bakb0ne

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Aug 21, 2006, 11:22:15 PM8/21/06
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What part of the GMRS license would be a better filter?

The 5 year duration between renewals, the $75/£40 charge or just the
general way of applying for it?

Im not saying i disagree, just wondering what you meant..

an old friend

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Aug 21, 2006, 11:26:57 PM8/21/06
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having to pay to use the ARS freqs might be more of a deterant to those
with bad attiudes than a code test

not to say it would be a good filter but fee for license with the
license fee used for enforcement here in the state the license is free
(the tests cost something) and the FCC is always complaining it laks
any funding to go after ham violators I suspect you are a brit and so
this might escape you I should have been clearer

nice to see someone serious paying attention here I had assume the
flamers and trolls had driven them off

Bakb0ne

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Aug 22, 2006, 10:34:12 PM8/22/06
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Yep, im british.

I can see your point about the FCC complaints, lack of funding is the
usual reason for them not to bother to go after ham violators. If they
charged users then they would be able to use that money to go after the
retards who clog todays airwaves...

And the flamers/trolls havent driven us all off, we just go into hiding
until we see something of interest, and just ignore the rest...

an Old friend

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Aug 22, 2006, 10:40:06 PM8/22/06
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indeed but you can't discuss any changes as I suspect you have ntoiced

and for that matter I have never seen why we have to have all of us
geting our license by the same path

indeed I have always liked an idea with some folks talking a rule and
safety test (and being confined to built equipment) and pay a fee while
others would takerigourous test and no fees

Bakb0ne

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Aug 22, 2006, 10:46:56 PM8/22/06
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So basically ur saying that you should be able to either

1. Pay for your license and Take a beginner test (to prove your
competent)
or
2. Take a Intermediate Test and get free license after passing

If this is what you mean, then i can see your logic and i would fully
support a system like this...

Only problem is that just like Slow Code and the other trolls who try
to change the Ham world, we wouldnt be able to do anything either, its
down to the corporations, not us little people...

Ma...@kb9rqz.com

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Aug 22, 2006, 11:44:42 PM8/22/06
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basicaly yes

>
>Only problem is that just like Slow Code and the other trolls who try
>to change the Ham world, we wouldnt be able to do anything either, its
>down to the corporations, not us little people...

well maybe I am naive but if Ham could get it together to support
something different that was not hard to run (from the FCC's point of
view) I suspect we would get it

mk...@yahoo.com

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Aug 23, 2006, 3:17:26 PM8/23/06
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I have been into Shortwave and Police communications since the days of
putting crystals into my 8 channel regency scanner from Montgomery
Wards.

I am 41, college educated, and technically savy. Today I am going to
go and take my license to be a certified Technician no code ham. So
far every test I have taken online I have achieved a passing score
without doing any studying other that the knowledge I have accumulated
over the past 30 years of being a shortwave, military comm, and police
comm listener.

I hope that others in the hobby do not have the same attitude that you
possess and are favorable to me being new to the hobby (I am a bit shy
out the gate but warm up quickly).

The fact that the fcc has made this test so much more attainable is a
good thing because it invites those (like myself) who decide to join
this hobby as a result of the test being passable with a basic
understanding of the radio spectrum and laws of using the spectrum for
which you are licensed to use.

More people available to be a part of the hobby is a good thing. So
why would you want to try to weed them out?? Almost sounds like you
are being a bit of a radio snob.

Just my 2 pennies worth.

Keith

Ma...@kb9rqz.com

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Aug 23, 2006, 3:23:15 PM8/23/06
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he is like a number you will find on the air he can be rduer here of
course
but most will be better

ntoice he lack the nerve to sign his name


>
>Keith
>
>
>On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:50:37 GMT, Slow Code <my....@no.spam> wrote:
>
>>
>>So why do it?
>>
>>SC

Dee Flint

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Aug 23, 2006, 6:10:12 PM8/23/06
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<mk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It sounds like you want to be a ham so you will be welcome.

The point that some people are trying to make is that attracting people who
do not want to be hams is rather pointless. They'll be talked into getting
a license by some overzealous person telling them how easy it is and then
will end up not participating because they don't have an interest in it.

Dee, N8UZE


an old freind

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Aug 23, 2006, 6:26:32 PM8/23/06
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Dee Flint wrote:
> <mk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6t9pe2l02j0cm946c...@4ax.com...
> >I have been into Shortwave and Police communications since the days of

> > Just my 2 pennies worth.


> >
> > Keith
> >
>
> It sounds like you want to be a ham so you will be welcome.

not by you most likely if he expresses an opinion you don't like


>
> The point that some people are trying to make is that attracting people who
> do not want to be hams is rather pointless.

is that the point?
then you are worng

It far from pointless although it is less valueble than atracting and
retaining those that realy want to be hams

> They'll be talked into getting
> a license by some overzealous person telling them how easy it is and then
> will end up not participating because they don't have an interest in it.

Thus pseaks Dee Flint Like Robeson a supreme judge of other people

as I have an elitist bitch

to the original poster you find these number they can not be escaped
but they are not the majority
>
> Dee, N8UZE

Truth

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Aug 23, 2006, 7:05:45 PM8/23/06
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> I have an elitist bitch
>
Your she-male wife. Sober up before you post, you drunken fool.


an old freind

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Aug 23, 2006, 7:11:34 PM8/23/06
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Truth wrote:

> >
> Your she-male wife. Sober up before you post, you drunken fool.

no wismen I don't have a she male wife

inded she male are by and large the sole pruview and scared wannabe
gays that lack the guts to just come out and have sex with another man

to sober up I would have to get druk first
that is the facts

deal with it or shove you monitor up your ass and plug it in

Truth

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Aug 23, 2006, 7:16:04 PM8/23/06
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"an old freind" <kb9rq...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Truth wrote:
>
>> >
>> Your she-male wife. Sober up before you post, you drunken fool.
>
> inded she male
>
All that booze in your rotten skull is finally make you tell the truth this
one time. Check yourself into a dry out clinic you pathetic lush.

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> inded she male


an old freind

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Aug 23, 2006, 7:22:17 PM8/23/06
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not Truth wrote:

> All that booze in your rotten skull is finally make you tell the truth this
> one time. Check yourself into a dry out clinic you pathetic lush.

no booze is there or my system at al
I said she males you preview of scared men like yourself

I don't don't have a shemale wife, shemale are fun but they are by and
large pretty fucked up mentaly rather like you wismen

If I want a cock I go for a man if I want pussy I go fo r a fmeale
simple as that

Slow Code

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Aug 23, 2006, 7:25:48 PM8/23/06
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mk...@yahoo.com wrote in news:6t9pe2l02j0cm946c...@4ax.com:

>
> The fact that the fcc has made this test so much more attainable is a
> good thing because it invites those (like myself) who decide to join
> this hobby as a result of the test being passable with a basic
> understanding of the radio spectrum and laws of using the spectrum for
> which you are licensed to use.

If you had to use CW to save someone's life, would that person die?


SC

Ma...@kb9rqz.com

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Aug 23, 2006, 7:28:02 PM8/23/06
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no they would not

I can use CW well enough to save someone life with if that should
occour

Slow Code

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Aug 24, 2006, 8:52:23 AM8/24/06
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Markie, Just ignore them.

They only tease you because of the stupid things you say when you
follow up. Just ignore them and they'll give up.

Stop giving them reasons to tease you. It only makes you look
more stupid.

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[censored]

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Aug 27, 2006, 12:26:50 PM8/27/06
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Slow Code wrote:
> So why do it?
>
> SC

You got in...are YOU worried?

an_old_friend

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Aug 27, 2006, 12:47:20 PM8/27/06
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having gotten his he wants to blow up the feild so nobody else can have
it

Woody

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Aug 27, 2006, 6:56:22 PM8/27/06
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Ok, what if you were stranded on a desert island, and had to use code to
save someone's life?
Could you use the coconuts to build a radio in order to send said code?
And if you could build the radio out of coconuts, why not just build one
with a mic and speak
the miracle of life into being?

rb


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Ma...@kb9rqz.com

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Aug 27, 2006, 7:03:54 PM8/27/06
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:56:22 GMT, "Woody" <ts...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Ok, what if you were stranded on a desert island, and had to use code to
>save someone's life?

well it would neer i don't ravel much


>Could you use the coconuts to build a radio in order to send said code?

surething the range would....suck


>And if you could build the radio out of coconuts, why not just build one
>with a mic and speak
>the miracle of life into being?

of course

Jack Ricci

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Aug 27, 2006, 7:23:03 PM8/27/06
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> Could you use the coconuts to build a radio in order to send said code?
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...Remember the smoke signals...remember the smoke signals...remember the
smoke signals...

Jack

Slow Code

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Aug 27, 2006, 9:22:35 PM8/27/06
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"Woody" <ts...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:qqpIg.7318$Xl5.4731@trnddc06:

> Ok, what if you were stranded on a desert island, and had to use code to
> save someone's life?
> Could you use the coconuts to build a radio in order to send said code?
> And if you could build the radio out of coconuts, why not just build one
> with a mic and speak
> the miracle of life into being?
>
> rb


Markie could. He learned out to do it watching Gilligans Island.

SC

an old freind

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Aug 27, 2006, 9:41:44 PM8/27/06
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Slow Code wrote:

>
>
> Markie could. He learned out to do it watching Gilligans Island.

why don't you just admit it you care about people safety or the public
just your own petty staus

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