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Paul W. Schleck
Jan 16, 2013, 5:26:41 PM1/16/13
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This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated
newsgroup rec.radio.noncomm.
Newsgroups Line:
Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
Distribution:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.radio.info
rec.radio.noncomm
Proponent: Paul W. Schleck <psch...@novia.net>
Charter:
rec.radio.noncomm unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.
Subjects discussed might include
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
- carrier current and cable based radio
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of Broadcasters/BEA
meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate Broadcasters Society in NY
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The Public
Radio Expansion Task Force
- the FCC and its regulations
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants
Rationale for removal:
A low-volume newsgroup for many years, activity on rec.radio.noncomm has
recently diminished to just an arguably off-topic periodic bulletin with
a subject of "Top 10 Dance Chart", that does not appear to correspond to
any current programming on any radio station or network, that is also
widely and indiscriminantly crossposted to many other radio and music
newsgroups. The last two on-topic posts to the newsgroup were on
September 15, 2010 and May 4, 2007. The last two on-topic posts to the
newsgroup that generated on-topic followup discussion were on March 19,
2007 and July 30, 2005. Therefore, there have been no on-topic posts
without followup discussion in over two years, no on-topic posts with
followup discussion in over five years, and judging from the minimal
on-topic posting history over at least the last ten years, there is no
realistic chance of significant on-topic activity returning.
History of the Group:
rec.radio.noncomm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its
vote for creation by 143:30 as reported in
news.groups on March 21, 1990.
For your newsgroups file:
rec.radio.noncomm Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
The charter, culled from the call for votes:
rec.radio.noncomm unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.
Subjects discussed might include
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
- carrier current and cable based radio
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of Broadcasters/BEA
meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate Broadcasters Society in NY
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The Public
Radio Expansion Task Force
- the FCC and its regulations
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants
Procedure:
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups
History of this RFD:
2013-01-16: Initial proposal
newsgroup rec.radio.noncomm.
Newsgroups Line:
Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
Distribution:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.radio.info
rec.radio.noncomm
Proponent: Paul W. Schleck <psch...@novia.net>
Charter:
rec.radio.noncomm unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.
Subjects discussed might include
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
- carrier current and cable based radio
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of Broadcasters/BEA
meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate Broadcasters Society in NY
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The Public
Radio Expansion Task Force
- the FCC and its regulations
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants
Rationale for removal:
A low-volume newsgroup for many years, activity on rec.radio.noncomm has
recently diminished to just an arguably off-topic periodic bulletin with
a subject of "Top 10 Dance Chart", that does not appear to correspond to
any current programming on any radio station or network, that is also
widely and indiscriminantly crossposted to many other radio and music
newsgroups. The last two on-topic posts to the newsgroup were on
September 15, 2010 and May 4, 2007. The last two on-topic posts to the
newsgroup that generated on-topic followup discussion were on March 19,
2007 and July 30, 2005. Therefore, there have been no on-topic posts
without followup discussion in over two years, no on-topic posts with
followup discussion in over five years, and judging from the minimal
on-topic posting history over at least the last ten years, there is no
realistic chance of significant on-topic activity returning.
History of the Group:
rec.radio.noncomm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its
vote for creation by 143:30 as reported in
news.groups on March 21, 1990.
For your newsgroups file:
rec.radio.noncomm Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
The charter, culled from the call for votes:
rec.radio.noncomm unmoderated discussion of noncommercial radio.
Subjects discussed might include
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
- carrier current and cable based radio
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of Broadcasters/BEA
meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate Broadcasters Society in NY
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The Public
Radio Expansion Task Force
- the FCC and its regulations
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants
Procedure:
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news:news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.
If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.
For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/wiki/Removing_newsgroups
History of this RFD:
2013-01-16: Initial proposal
Paul W. Schleck
Jan 26, 2013, 9:37:46 AM1/26/13
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This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the unmoderated
newsgroup rec.radio.noncomm.
Newsgroups Line:
Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
Distribution:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.radio.info
rec.radio.noncomm
The proponent will also post pointers to this RFD to:
newsgroup rec.radio.noncomm.
Newsgroups Line:
Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
Distribution:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.radio.info
rec.radio.noncomm
alt.radio.broadcasting
alt.radio.college
alt.radio.networks.npr
rec.radio.broadcasting (Moderated)
In response to the initial RFD, no followup to either rec.radio.noncomm
or news.groups.proposals has been posted after 10 days, suggesting that
no one is reading rec.radio.noncomm, or that no one objects to its
removal, or both.
2013-01-16: Initial proposal
Scott Dorsey
Jan 26, 2013, 12:51:32 PM1/26/13
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Paul W. Schleck <psch...@novia.net> wrote:
>
>In response to the initial RFD, no followup to either rec.radio.noncomm
>or news.groups.proposals has been posted after 10 days, suggesting that
>no one is reading rec.radio.noncomm, or that no one objects to its
>removal, or both.
I'm reading rec.radio.noncomm at least, and I did not see the initial RFD
>
>In response to the initial RFD, no followup to either rec.radio.noncomm
>or news.groups.proposals has been posted after 10 days, suggesting that
>no one is reading rec.radio.noncomm, or that no one objects to its
>removal, or both.
which appears not to have arrived here on panix.
rrn was a very popular newsgroup in the days when Usenet was very popular
on college campuses and it was quite popular among students at college
radio stations to discuss issues related to those stations. As mentioned,
however, the traffic has dropped down to nil.
Personally I am in favor of keeping the newsgroup in spite of the low
traffic, because I feel that in the future it may be able to meet an
actual need, and having it takes up no bandwidth or administrative
overhead.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Big 8 Management Board
Feb 23, 2013, 3:57:34 PM2/23/13
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THIRD REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)/LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS
There has been one post opposing the removal of this newsgroup from
Scott Dorsey in Message-ID <ke0rr7$ji3$1...@panix2.panix.com>.
In response to Scott Dorsey, Bobb Rudd asked what perceived future need
was foreseen for rec.radio.noncomm in Message-ID
<kk89g8d6eq0t31ng3...@4ax.com>. No reply was posted.
2013-02-26: LCC - Also updated discussion so far
Scott Dorsey in Message-ID <ke0rr7$ji3$1...@panix2.panix.com>.
In response to Scott Dorsey, Bobb Rudd asked what perceived future need
was foreseen for rec.radio.noncomm in Message-ID
<kk89g8d6eq0t31ng3...@4ax.com>. No reply was posted.
Big 8 Management Board
Mar 16, 2013, 4:53:36 PM3/16/13
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RESULT
rec.radio.noncomm will be removed
The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2013-02-26 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big 8
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the group
rec.radio.noncomm.
RATIONAL FOR REMOVAL:
A low-volume newsgroup for many years, activity on rec.radio.noncomm has
recently diminished to just an arguably off-topic periodic bulletin with
a subject of "Top 10 Dance Chart", that does not appear to correspond to
any current programming on any radio station or network, that is also
widely and indiscriminantly crossposted to many other radio and music
newsgroups. The last two on-topic posts to the newsgroup were on
September 15, 2010 and May 4, 2007. The last two on-topic posts to the
newsgroup that generated on-topic followup discussion were on March 19,
2007 and July 30, 2005. Therefore, there have been no on-topic posts
without followup discussion in over two years, no on-topic posts with
followup discussion in over five years, and judging from the minimal
on-topic posting history over at least the last ten years, there is no
realistic chance of significant on-topic activity returning.
Discussion so far:
There has been one post opposing the removal of this newsgroup from
Scott Dorsey in Message-ID <ke0rr7$ji3$1...@panix2.panix.com>.
In response to Scott Dorsey, Bobb Rudd asked what perceived future need
was foreseen for rec.radio.noncomm in Message-ID
<kk89g8d6eq0t31ng3...@4ax.com>. No reply was posted.
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
rec.radio.noncomm Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.radio.info
rec.radio.noncomm
CHARTER:
Subjects discussed might include
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
- carrier current and cable based radio
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of
Broadcasters/BEA meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate
Broadcasters Society in NY
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The
Public Radio Expansion Task Force
- the FCC and its regulations
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
rec.radio.noncomm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its
vote for creation by 143:30 as reported in
news.groups on March 21, 1990.
For your newsgroups file:
rec.radio.noncomm Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
PROPONENT:
Paul W. Schleck <psch...@novia.net>
CHANGE HISTORY:
2013-03-16: RESULT
rec.radio.noncomm will be removed
The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2013-02-26 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big 8
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the group
rec.radio.noncomm.
RATIONAL FOR REMOVAL:
A low-volume newsgroup for many years, activity on rec.radio.noncomm has
recently diminished to just an arguably off-topic periodic bulletin with
a subject of "Top 10 Dance Chart", that does not appear to correspond to
any current programming on any radio station or network, that is also
widely and indiscriminantly crossposted to many other radio and music
newsgroups. The last two on-topic posts to the newsgroup were on
September 15, 2010 and May 4, 2007. The last two on-topic posts to the
newsgroup that generated on-topic followup discussion were on March 19,
2007 and July 30, 2005. Therefore, there have been no on-topic posts
without followup discussion in over two years, no on-topic posts with
followup discussion in over five years, and judging from the minimal
on-topic posting history over at least the last ten years, there is no
realistic chance of significant on-topic activity returning.
Discussion so far:
There has been one post opposing the removal of this newsgroup from
Scott Dorsey in Message-ID <ke0rr7$ji3$1...@panix2.panix.com>.
In response to Scott Dorsey, Bobb Rudd asked what perceived future need
was foreseen for rec.radio.noncomm in Message-ID
<kk89g8d6eq0t31ng3...@4ax.com>. No reply was posted.
rec.radio.noncomm Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
rec.radio.info
rec.radio.noncomm
CHARTER:
Subjects discussed might include
- non-commercial AM/FM radio of the college and NPR variety
- carrier current and cable based radio
- do trade journals such as CMJ and Rockpool manipulate or aid?
- upcoming conventions such as the Nat'l Assoc. of
Broadcasters/BEA meeting in Atlanta and the Intercollegiate
Broadcasters Society in NY
- the newly released "Public Radio in the 1990s" report by The
Public Radio Expansion Task Force
- the FCC and its regulations
- obtaining and managing non-commercial grants
rec.radio.noncomm is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its
vote for creation by 143:30 as reported in
news.groups on March 21, 1990.
For your newsgroups file:
rec.radio.noncomm Topics relating to noncommercial radio.
Paul W. Schleck <psch...@novia.net>
CHANGE HISTORY:
2013-03-16: RESULT
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