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Sandrasues

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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Do the thru the window antennas perform poorly when put on a tinted window? I
have heard they do and wondered what you experienced people can tell me about
that.
Sandra

PLLO2A

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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if the glass is tinted from the factory, (tint in the glass), there will be no
interference.
if the tint was put on the glass, put the inside piece on the glass and
carefully cut around it with a razor blade and skin the tint off the window.
if you don't eventually, it will come off the window with all the tint.
as far as antenna performance, don't expect miracles from that antenna.
they arn't very good regardless of who makes it.
good luck.
jeff

Gary Danaher

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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Through the glass antennas work OK for frequencies in the uhf bands and
up. For 11 meters, one would never even consider using such a thing
seriously to communicate any distance at all. As for the plastic
coating, it would be as transparent as the glass electrically, but might
be subject to pulling loose.

Barry

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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Sandrasues <sandr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Do the thru the window antennas perform poorly when put on a tinted
window? I
> have heard they do and wondered what you experienced people can tell me
about
> that.
> Sandra

I have used one on my Windstar with factory tint and the antenna performed
fine. The performance compared to mag mount is poor. But if you only want
to communicate 1-2 miles they work for that. I leave it on the van as a
backup antenna. (also because I am unsure of how to remove it.) If I am
going into Toronto I usally disconnect the MAG on hook up the thru-glass due
to the low under ground parking etc.

Barry

John Jenkins

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:54:09 GMT, Gary Danaher <gdan...@flash.net>
wrote:

>Through the glass antennas work OK for frequencies in the uhf bands and
>up. For 11 meters, one would never even consider using such a thing
>seriously to communicate any distance at all. As for the plastic

How do thru-the-glass antennas work? I mean, how is the connection
made? Is it based on the two pieces being so close?

Gary Danaher

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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Keeping this real simple, the bracket you glue to the inside of the
glass to which the coax is attached is in fact the base of an
antenna--it is radiating to some extent. the antenna glued to the
outside of the glass forms the balance of the antenna. I believe you
could call this an inductive relationship. You can see similar reactions
when you have large metallic objects positioned near an existing
antenna. The extra metal will affect the pattern, etc. In any event,
don't waste your time and money on a glass mount for CB. It might tune
to 11 meters, but it is best described as a dumbie load.

John Jenkins

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Aug 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/29/99
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On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:08:31 GMT, Gary Danaher <gdan...@flash.net>
wrote:

>Keeping this real simple, the bracket you glue to the inside of the


>glass to which the coax is attached is in fact the base of an
>antenna--it is radiating to some extent. the antenna glued to the

Yikes. This definately doesn't sound like something even worth
manufacturing....

Handy Andy

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Aug 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/30/99
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Greetings!

Check to see if your windows use some form of defogging.

You know, wires in the window, or a "copper" or "gold" tint to the
window. This may indicate that the window uses a polycarbonate
material that acts like a big resistor - and when current is applied
across two embedded electrodes, it heats up and removes ice, snow and
fogging on the glass. Avoid placing the antenna on these types of
windows.

Other "sandwiched" laminate glass from the factory, contains a
metallic cobalt-based or polyacrylic which can goof up trying to get a
low SWR. Can work - just no guarantee.

High-curve glass [AMC Pacer, Dodge, Lincoln, GM] cars, the different
styles offer some problems in getting the thing to stick. Too much
curve on the glass for the thing to get a good grip.

Use the type of Thru-the-glass that offers a ground connection at the
mount to help improve the performance. Apply and install the mount
according to the directions.

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:+> Do the thru the window antennas perform poorly when put on a tinted window? I
:+> have heard they do and wondered what you experienced people can tell me about
:+> that.
:+> Sandra


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Sandrasues

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While Dancing with the Mouse on 29 Aug 1999 01:09:01 GMT, the Modem
interrupted with an MNI from "sandr...@aol.com (Sandrasues)", and
the MotherBoard buffered this to Video RAM:
MR CODY ANDY SIR

this sounds pretty serious !

I thank you for a point of view not expressed yet but rest assured there is no
defogging wires on the side windows or windshield.
sandra

Toll Free

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Aug 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/30/99
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Actually,

You have the theory right, but the statement about the type of relationship
should have read a capacitive relationship.

The mount capacitively couples to the antenna.


Toll Free

Gary Danaher <gdan...@flash.net> wrote in message
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> Keeping this real simple, the bracket you glue to the inside of the
> glass to which the coax is attached is in fact the base of an
> antenna--it is radiating to some extent. the antenna glued to the

> outside of the glass forms the balance of the antenna. I believe you
> could call this an inductive relationship. You can see similar reactions
> when you have large metallic objects positioned near an existing
> antenna. The extra metal will affect the pattern, etc. In any event,
> don't waste your time and money on a glass mount for CB. It might tune
> to 11 meters, but it is best described as a dumbie load.
>
>
> John Jenkins wrote:
> >

Toll Free

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Aug 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/30/99
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Plastic does nothing to signals at 27 megs.


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Daniel

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Aug 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/31/99
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It is possible for certain types of window tint to interfere with glass mount
antennas,
many of the higher quality window films contain a metal based layer normally
titanium.
We have also had problems with newer BMW's with in glass radio/tv antennas,
and had to use a lower grade polyester based film on the rear window to stop
interference.
You can always cut the tint away from the window where the base mounts.


Sandrasues wrote:

> Do the thru the window antennas perform poorly when put on a tinted window? I

> have heard they do and wondered what you experienced people can tell me about

> that.
> Sandra


Wildcat

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Aug 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/31/99
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Isn't an Aluminum Oxide used as a base material in the tint? Wouldn't the %
of Aluminum in the tinting have an adverse reaction to operation of the
antenna? I realize that I am splitting hairs here, however I would think
that depending on the tinting material, the antenna wouldn't operate to its
design efficiency.

Wildcat

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Aug 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/31/99
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Hey Sandra, are you a former/current PAD member?

Sandrasues

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Sep 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/1/99
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>
>Hey Sandra, are you a former/current PAD member?
>
>
>

What in the H E double hockey sticks is that? I guess the answer is no

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