CB linear amps 4 Sale
tyler
In article <323c9fe6...@news.interlog.com>, ron...@interlog.com says...
>
>HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>100 watt $100.00
>300 watt $150.00
>600 watt $300.00
>1000 watt $500.00
>2000 watt $700.00
>5000 watt enquire
>CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
Just what everyone needs! A bunch of CBers running hundreds of watts!!! tyler
Ron Katz
Hay Tyler maybe my news server is a bit slow and this stuff below has
not yet made it to my ISP but I never posted this and am yet to see
the orginal post. Your not the type of guy who whould post or try to
start such a thing are you?
Maybe you can shed some light on this for me.
bill kotarski
Ron Katz wrote:
>
> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
> 100 watt $100.00
> 300 watt $150.00
> 600 watt $300.00
> 1000 watt $500.00
> 2000 watt $700.00
> 5000 watt enquire
> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
Ron Katz
George L. Vetterle
SWEET JEEZUZ KATZ! I just saw your ad. What are you trying to do?
Don't you have any scruples at all? All we need is some more good
buddies running illegal power on their rigs. Some people will do
anything for a buck, I guess.
In <323F1F...@genesee.freenet.org> bill kotarski
<bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> writes:
>Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
--
George L. Vetterle
geo...@ix.netcom.com
"A man has to know his limitations."-Dirty Harry Callahan, MAGNUM
FORCE, Malpaso (1973)
Ron Katz
Hay about forwarding it to me first. Its not on my server. Someone
having fun?
Ron Katz
Now tell me something here...What stops someone from rewriting the
headder in the body of their posts?
I can also tab down and change a few things.
I still have not seen an orginal post on my server.
Secnod, I'm In canada, Call the DOC no not the FCC If anyone.
no.spammi...@null.com (King Kamehameha) wrote:
>In article <323f101c...@news.interlog.com>,
> ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz) wrote:
>>Hay Tyler maybe my news server is a bit slow and this stuff below has
>>not yet made it to my ISP but I never posted this and am yet to see
>>the orginal post. Your not the type of guy who whould post or try to
>>start such a thing are you?
>>
>>Maybe you can shed some light on this for me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>ty...@cyberia.com (tyler) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <323c9fe6...@news.interlog.com>, ron...@interlog.com
>says...
>>>>
>>>>HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>>>>100 watt $100.00
>>>>300 watt $150.00
>>>>600 watt $300.00
>>>>1000 watt $500.00
>>>>2000 watt $700.00
>>>>5000 watt enquire
>>>>CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>>>>email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>>>
>>>Just what everyone needs! A bunch of CBers running hundreds of watts!!!
>tyler
>>>
>>
>
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>From: ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz)
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
>Subject: CB linear amps 4 Sale
>Date: Mon, 17 Sep 1996 00:29:56 GMT
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>HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>100 watt $100.00
>300 watt $150.00
>600 watt $300.00
>1000 watt $500.00
>2000 watt $700.00
>5000 watt enquire
>CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>
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>Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
>Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale
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>Pretty damning, I'd say.
Robert J Batina
Jerry Christopher (musta...@carolina-chat.com) wrote:
: > Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
: Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
: And it's only illegal if you get caught.
And even if you DO get caught, the FCC doesn't give a shit anymore...
they have bigger fish to fry... the FCC said this themselves in a recent
tv-consumer-complaint TV show thing... TV show tried to help clear CB
'noise' from neighborhood... FCC didn't give a shit. Period.
Jerry Christopher
bill kotarski wrote:
>
> Ron Katz wrote:
> >
> > HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
> > 100 watt $100.00
> > 300 watt $150.00
> > 600 watt $300.00
> > 1000 watt $500.00
> > 2000 watt $700.00
> > 5000 watt enquire
> > CB radios all kinds $35 & up
> > email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
And it's only illegal if you get caught.
--
___ Jerry Christopher ___
__/ o.\___ AKA ___/.o \__
*-O----O-* Musta...@Carolina-Chat.Com *-O----O-*
Bill Cheek
bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote:
>Ron Katz wrote:
>>
>> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>> 100 watt $100.00
>> 300 watt $150.00
>> 600 watt $300.00
>> 1000 watt $500.00
>> 2000 watt $700.00
>> 5000 watt enquire
>> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
Wouldn't matter. He's in Canada.
Bill Cheek
ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz) wrote:
>Now tell me something here...What stops someone from rewriting the
>headder in the body of their posts?
Nothing. But that would be ignorant, because it would appear as a
part of the message, not the header.
Jim
ty...@cyberia.com (tyler) wrote:
>Just what everyone needs! A bunch of CBers running hundreds of watts!!! tyler
>
That's as opposed to a bunch of hams on 75 phone running
hundreds of watts?
King Kamehameha
In article <323f101c...@news.interlog.com>,
ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz) wrote:
>Hay Tyler maybe my news server is a bit slow and this stuff below has
>not yet made it to my ISP but I never posted this and am yet to see
>the orginal post. Your not the type of guy who whould post or try to
>start such a thing are you?
>
>Maybe you can shed some light on this for me.
>
>
>
>
>ty...@cyberia.com (tyler) wrote:
>
>>In article <323c9fe6...@news.interlog.com>, ron...@interlog.com
says...
>>>
>>>100 watt $100.00
>>>300 watt $150.00
>>>600 watt $300.00
>>>1000 watt $500.00
>>>2000 watt $700.00
>>>5000 watt enquire
>>>CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>>>email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>>
tyler
>>
>
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From: ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
Subject: CB linear amps 4 Sale
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 1996 00:29:56 GMT
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Status: N
HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
100 watt $100.00
300 watt $150.00
600 watt $300.00
1000 watt $500.00
2000 watt $700.00
5000 watt enquire
CB radios all kinds $35 & up
email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
Rich & Katy Mulvey
On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:16:11 -0400, Jerry Christopher <musta...@carolina-chat.com> wrote:
>Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
Not quite, Einstein. Posession is considered sufficient proof of
intent to use, according to the FCC.
>And it's only illegal if you get caught.
You're not a criminal unless you get caught? Sorry, but your feeble
attempts to justify yourself don't help. A criminal is a criminal, no
matter how many people know about the crime.
CRONIN
In article <323c9fe6...@news.interlog.com>, ron...@interlog.com says...
>
>HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>100 watt $100.00
>300 watt $150.00
>600 watt $300.00
>1000 watt $500.00
>2000 watt $700.00
>5000 watt enquire
5000 watts? Give me a break...
Darren Stevens
>
> : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
>
>
Wrong, If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs. Just do it and learn
something new for yourself!!!
Rich & Katy Mulvey
On 18 Sep 1996 17:15:56 GMT, Jim <jst...@texas.net> wrote:
>ty...@cyberia.com (tyler) wrote:
>
>>Just what everyone needs! A bunch of CBers running hundreds of watts!!! tyler
>>
>
>hundreds of watts?
>
Yes, because the nature of propagation tends to require higher power
on 75M, and because the operators have at least had a passing familiarity
with the safety and RFI issues associated with using amps.
- Rich
--
My mailer has the unfortunate tendency to bounce 10,000 copies of any
junk mail I receive back to the sender. Be warned.
Doug D
ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz) wrote:
>Hay about forwarding it to me first. Its not on my server. Someone
>having fun?
>bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote:
>>Ron Katz wrote:
>>>
>>> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>>> 100 watt $100.00
>>> 300 watt $150.00
>>> 600 watt $300.00
>>> 1000 watt $500.00
>>> 2000 watt $700.00
>>> 5000 watt enquire
>>> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>>> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>>Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
It's yours Katz, you even spell "Hay" the same way.
McInnis
In article <323FE8...@carolina-chat.com>, Jerry Christopher <musta...@carolina-chat.com> writes:
> xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > xxxx xxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
> > > 100 watt
> > > 300 watt
> > > 600 watt
> > > 1000 watt
> > > 2000 watt
> > > 5000 watt
> > > CB radios all kinds $35 & up
> > > email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
> > Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
>
> Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
> And it's only illegal if you get caught.
> --
> ___ Jerry Christopher ___
> __/ o.\___ AKA ___/.o \__
> *-O----O-* Musta...@Carolina-Chat.Com *-O----O-*
Actually, it's generally illegal in the US to manufacture amps capable
of operating in this frequency range unless you have certain types of
FCC approval. This was changed a few years back.
--
Mickey McInnis - mci...@austin.ibm.com
--
All opinions expressed are my own opinions, not my company's opinions.
Gus
bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote:
>Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
why forward it to the FCC to sell CB amps is not illegal. only to
use them. I know a lot of shops that are continually visted by the
FCC and see the amps and never say anything other than don't use them
Dwayne S. Byrd
>bill kotarski wrote:
>>
>> Ron Katz wrote:
>> >
>> > HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>> > 100 watt $100.00
>> Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
>
>Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
>And it's only illegal if you get caught.
No, silly, it's illegal whether or not you get caught.
Ron Katz
Maybe the one responsible for all this also uses forged email
addresses. (By the way, when I try to reply to yours, its returned
'not found')
Its not on my server because it ordinates elsewhere. When my server
sees the path contains "interlog" in it, its ignored thinking its
already here. Thing is, its not. That's why I did not see it and only
the replies of others.
I have no way of proving this but then again I don't care to waste any
more time on this issue. The one responsible is getting just what he
wants. A few laughs and the attention. I guess when your up against a
wall resorting to forging posts is the only way out.
Shall we think hard, really hard who would waste so much time? How
about looking at rec.radio.scanners Do I need to spell it out for
you?
Thanks for your concern.
no.spammi...@null.com (King Kamehameha) wrote:
>In article <323f101c...@news.interlog.com>,
> ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz) wrote:
>>Hay Tyler maybe my news server is a bit slow and this stuff below has
>>not yet made it to my ISP but I never posted this and am yet to see
>>the orginal post. Your not the type of guy who whould post or try to
>>start such a thing are you?
>>
>>Maybe you can shed some light on this for me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>ty...@cyberia.com (tyler) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <323c9fe6...@news.interlog.com>, ron...@interlog.com
>says...
>>>>
>>>>HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>>>>100 watt $100.00
>>>>300 watt $150.00
>>>>600 watt $300.00
>>>>1000 watt $500.00
>>>>2000 watt $700.00
>>>>5000 watt enquire
>>>>CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>>>>email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>>>
>>>Just what everyone needs! A bunch of CBers running hundreds of watts!!!
>tyler
>>>
>>
>
>
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>From: ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz)
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.swap
>Subject: CB linear amps 4 Sale
>Date: Mon, 17 Sep 1996 00:29:56 GMT
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>
>HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>100 watt $100.00
>300 watt $150.00
>600 watt $300.00
>1000 watt $500.00
>2000 watt $700.00
>5000 watt enquire
>CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>
>
plu...@imap1.asu.edu
Darren Stevens (Dste...@tate.com) wrote:
: >
: > : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
: Wrong, If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
: argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs. Just do it and learn
: something new for yourself!!!
Hey rec.radio.cb readers... For those of you not familiar with the
flamewar BS which has been taking place on rec.radio.scanner (and spilled
over to alt.radio.scanner) it is now spilling over to here. If you are
not familiar with it, I'd suggest you go check out the continual forged
(and now obscene) posts before replying to this thread. If you must,
could you at least remove rec.radio.cb from the newsgroups? I don't want
to have to unsubscribe to this group also when the flame wars spill over
to here.
--
--Patrick
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Andy Domonkos
Rich & Katy Mulvey (mul...@ll.aa2ys.ampr.org) wrote:
:
: Yes, because the nature of propagation tends to require higher power
: on 75M, and because the operators have at least had a passing familiarity
: with the safety and RFI issues associated with using amps.
:
: - Rich
Excuse me, the nature of prop requires higher power on 75M? Everyone else
running A kilowatt+ makes it impossible to hold a decent QSO without at
least 1KW. If everyone shut off their amps and ran under 100 watts 75
would become useful.
Why is it that I get outstanding results with less than 5 watts on 80M CW,
especially since the antenna I use is an end loaded half sloper? At least
everyone down on the CW end has more sense to turn the wick down.
Andy
Mustang Maniac
In article <323FE8...@carolina-chat.com>, musta...@carolina-chat.com
says...
>Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
Sorry, Jerry, you're wrong here. If you are caught with an amplifier
capable of being used on 11m CB, and you're not a licensed ham radio
operator, the FCC will PRESUME that you intend to use the amp with
your CB, and you are guilty. If you're a ham, and you get caught
with an amp connected to an 11m CB, you're guilty also. You do NOT
have to be caught operating the amp on CB to get "busted"!
The FCC occasionally sets up at truck weight stations along the
interstates and busts truckers who are using amps. Most of them have
the amps just sitting in plain view on top of their CBs on the dash
of the tractor.
This information comes directly from the FCC Field Office in Dallas!
73 de KC5NG (Dean Hemphill)
Peter Gottlieb
Andy Domonkos <domo...@access4.digex.net> wrote in article
<51r8sg$r...@news3.digex.net>...
> Rich & Katy Mulvey (mul...@ll.aa2ys.ampr.org) wrote:
> :
> : Yes, because the nature of propagation tends to require higher power
> : on 75M, and because the operators have at least had a passing
familiarity
> : with the safety and RFI issues associated with using amps.
> :
> : - Rich
> :
>
> Excuse me, the nature of prop requires higher power on 75M? Everyone else
> running A kilowatt+ makes it impossible to hold a decent QSO without at
> least 1KW. If everyone shut off their amps and ran under 100 watts 75
> would become useful.
>
This has been considered long time ago when the FCC regs were written, in
the form of: use the least power necessary to achieve the communications.
Also, less power means fewer complaints from neighbors.
I believe the real problem with most of the CB amps is that they are
technically
terrible and tend to cause disproportionate interference. They are cheap,
often
having little or no filtering. And... they are often driven by
overmodulated overdriven
and clipping radios. If these CB'ers would be putting out clean carriers
on
frequency, then there should be little technical reason to differentiate
them from
10 meter amateur operation.
...Peter
Phil
The reason you can buy and own one is due to the fact that the unit is
generally broadbanded enough to be tuned to cover 10 meters where you can
legally run more power thru a linear.
I once called Motorola to get some MRF454's to build a 160 Watt linear. I
was basically grilled by the sales person asking questions like:
Are you a CBer?
Is the device for commercial or personal use?
Are you a licensed Amateur operator?
Do you hold a radiotelephone operators license?
Kind of sounds to me like they want to make sure that the parts are not
sold for CB use. But they will sell them.
-> Phil KKC4849 (Calamity) & KA1NHZ
Phil
If only one non-commercial person complains about TVI/RFI then you're
right. They don't care.
But if a whole neighborhood complains or a business is disrupted, They
WILL get involved.
I had the local FCC authority knocking on my door over a local complaint
and it was hell trying to prove it wasn't me. I was away on vacation at
the time of the original complaint (saved my ass). The complaint was
generated from a group of three local citizens who were experiencing Phone
trouble.
As far as wether they care? You are right. They do have bigger fish to fry
but by the same token the field offices have to prove that their existence
is required. So to maintain their jobs, most will investigate even
miniscule claims if there is enough people complaining.
I reported a single local business for splattering on on VHF-FM after
trying to convince the 'Oil Delivery Service' of their problem. The FCC
was on them like a fly on sh**. The problem got rectified (dirty final in
the base station radio).
I think it is a very dangerous statement to make that the FCC doesn't care
for at some point any one of us may find ourselves being scrutinized. And
if we don't take the possibility seriously, then we have no right to cry
about it when we get slapped with a big fine and/or lose our equipment.
McInnis
In article <51rtuf$2...@cronkite.xyplex.com>, Phil <pmet...@xyplex.com> writes:
> The reason you can buy and own one is due to the fact that the unit is
> generally broadbanded enough to be tuned to cover 10 meters where you can
> legally run more power thru a linear.
>
In the US -
You can't legally manufacture an RF amp that works below 144 MHz unless it
is FCC type accepted. (There are limited exceptions for amateur radio
operators, essentially you can't build more than one a year or use a kit.)
An RF amp won't be type accepted unless it won't work on the CB bands.
>
> I once called Motorola to get some MRF454's to build a 160 Watt linear. I
> was basically grilled by the sales person asking questions like:
>
I'm assuming MRF454's are transistors or tubes, not complete amplifiers.
I don't think there are any legal restrictions on these.
>
>
> Are you a CBer?
>
> Is the device for commercial or personal use?
>
> Are you a licensed Amateur operator?
>
> Do you hold a radiotelephone operators license?
>
> Kind of sounds to me like they want to make sure that the parts are not
> sold for CB use. But they will sell them.
>
> -> Phil KKC4849 (Calamity) & KA1NHZ
>
>
>
Harold Brian Robinson
Gus wrote:
>
> bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote:
>
> >Has anyone FORWARDED Tat post to the F.C.C. ???
>
> use them. I know a lot of shops that are continually visted by the
> FCC and see the amps and never say anything other than don't use them
It is illegal to sell them. The FCC has conducted many raids on
companies that sell CB linears.
It is illegal to sell ANY electronic device without FCC approval.
Intentional radiators have to have type acceptance from the FCC before
they can be sold legally.
That is, it could be a legal type of equipment (two-way radio, etc.),
but it is still illegal to sell that item without a type acceptance.
Drew Durigan
watts!!! tyler
>>
>
>hundreds of watts?
Have you heard the garbage on 75 lately? Makes CB Channel 19 look like a
church picnic.
-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
KADF-6895
KF4DDM
John Wilkerson
: >Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
: Not quite, Einstein. Posession is considered sufficient proof of
: intent to use, according to the FCC.
: >And it's only illegal if you get caught.
: You're not a criminal unless you get caught? Sorry, but your feeble
: attempts to justify yourself don't help. A criminal is a criminal, no
: matter how many people know about the crime.
Well, I figure it is useless to try to explain anything to these
criminals. Remember..... if a criminal was smart, they wouldn't be
criminals.
--
John L. Wilkerson Jr. jo...@iwaynet.iwaynet.net
bill kotarski
Mustang Maniac wrote:
>
> In article <323FE8...@carolina-chat.com>, musta...@carolina-chat.com
> says...
>
> capable of being used on 11m CB, and you're not a licensed ham radio
> operator, the FCC will PRESUME that you intend to use the amp with
> your CB, and you are guilty. If you're a ham, and you get caught
> with an amp connected to an 11m CB, you're guilty also. You do NOT
> have to be caught operating the amp on CB to get "busted"!
>
> The FCC occasionally sets up at truck weight stations along the
> interstates and busts truckers who are using amps. Most of them have
> the amps just sitting in plain view on top of their CBs on the dash
> of the tractor.
>
> This information comes directly from the FCC Field Office in Dallas!
>
> 73 de KC5NG (Dean Hemphill)
YOU ARE CORRECT!!!
Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
F.C.C. made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW
Jerry Sommer
Having both CB radio and linear amp is trouble if the FCC comes around
but linear alone is not.
Jerry Sommer 30 years in CB repair.
b...@li.net
Ron Katz wrote:
>
> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
> 100 watt $100.00
> 300 watt $150.00
> 600 watt $300.00
> 1000 watt $500.00
> 2000 watt $700.00
> 5000 watt enquire
> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
antennas also?????????
BGV
b...@li.net
Rich & Katy Mulvey wrote:
>
> On 18 Sep 1996 17:15:56 GMT, Jim <jst...@texas.net> wrote:
> >ty...@cyberia.com (tyler) wrote:
> >
> >>Just what everyone needs! A bunch of CBers running hundreds of watts!!! tyler
> >>
> >
> >That's as opposed to a bunch of hams on 75 phone running
> >hundreds of watts?
> >
>
> on 75M, and because the operators have at least had a passing familiarity
> with the safety and RFI issues associated with using amps.
>
> - Rich
>
> My mailer has the unfortunate tendency to bounce 10,000 copies of any
> junk mail I receive back to the sender. Be warned.
Ahhh what the hell! Who the hell really cares anyway. In my area
everybody has a linear if they are on the CB. Some may be big and some
small but all have some type of linear. The FCC has gone to many people I
know. They don't care Nobody cares. Just get the most fun you can out of
your particular hobby.
Nuff Said!!!!!
BGV
Tom Sharples
IT IS ILLEGAL to offer a non-type-approved linear for sale to anyone except another
ham, and even then, only if it was originally built for personal use. To manufacture
linears for resale without FCC type approval IS ILLEGAL!!! And the FCC WILL NOT
type-approve a linear for sale in the U.S., that is capable of being tuned to 11
meters. And a non-ham is not allowed to modify a linear so that it can be tuned
to 11 Meters. Just in case you were wondering...
-Tom Sharples WA6HAS-
Jim Wayda
Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
also serve jail time. It is not worth it.
Jim Wayda
Wally
Sheesh! Here we go again with the "Is it legal to own a CB linear if
its not hooked up" debate.
Well I run a 400 watt mobile linear with an HR2510 with an Echo mic.
I have more fun in one evening than the hams do in a year of operating
on 75 meters!
I own the amp. I operate the amp. I've never been caught yet!
And I don't have to worry if its hooked up or not!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Wally
Rich & Katy Mulvey
On 19 Sep 1996 10:56:16 GMT, Andy Domonkos <domo...@access4.digex.net> wrote:
>Why is it that I get outstanding results with less than 5 watts on 80M CW,
>especially since the antenna I use is an end loaded half sloper? At least
>everyone down on the CW end has more sense to turn the wick down.
>
As a QRPp'r, I find it shocking that you have to resort to using 5 watts.
My Sierra is calibrated for 2W on 80M. :-)
But as for the original posting - I still maintain that 75M SSB ops
are generally justified in using higher power. Yes, there are certainly
ops who don't seem to know where the "off" switch on the amp is - but
noise levels often demand more than a barefoot rig. QRN around here
often makes 80M unusable for anything more than local contacts.
Bill Nelson
Ron Katz (ron...@interlog.com) wrote:
: Its not on my server because it ordinates elsewhere. When my server
: sees the path contains "interlog" in it, its ignored thinking its
: already here. Thing is, its not. That's why I did not see it and only
: the replies of others.
You are being inconsistant. You said you have not seen the posting. If
your news server does indeed act as you say, then that would be an
indication that the post originated at your site.
I think we can guarantee that it did. The post did indeed originate at
your site. Whether the poster was at your site, or not, is another matter.
Your system administrator could determine that for sure.
Bill
Anthony R. Gold
> >
> > : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
> >
> >
>
> Wrong, If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
> argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs. Just do it and learn
> something new for yourself!!!
Darren:
How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
kind to own anything whatever. If you had a license and knew how to
read and understand it, you would already have known that.
Regards,
--
Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tg...@panix.com
tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk
packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
Ron Katz
This is my last reply on this subject here.
This is what my ISP said when I asked about it.
They hav not give me any more details.
--------------
To: ron...@interlog.com (Ron Katz)
Subject: Re: CB linear amps 4 Sale [rec.radio.swap #75746]
From: Andrew Silliker <sill...@interlog.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:53:11 -0400
At 12:16 AM 9/18/96 GMT, you wrote:
>Any suggestions? I'm not really all that concerned, I don't
>understand how it can be done though. If this is from interlog then we
>have a problem. If it is being done somewhere else then I can ignore
>it. Any ideas who or what?
It looks like someone did a really good forgery. Don't know why they
chose
you, maybe you upset someone.
The article had never arrived on any of our news servers, which is
consitent
with that type of forgery. The Path: line already contained our
servers, to
the server would have rejected it.
I can't really offer any more help than that. We keep news for 2 weeks
in
all groups but alt.binaries, so I went looking for the original post
myself.
Couldn't find it.
Andy
_____________________________________________________
|Andrew Silliker | Stuff happens. |
|Network Administrator |-----------------------|
|Interlog Internet Services | sill...@interlog.net |
|Ph: 416-975-4438 | Fax: 416-975-9639 |
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bi...@PEAK.ORG (Bill Nelson) wrote:
----------------
Nick Gibbs
Dwayne S. Byrd wrote:
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:16:11 -0400, Jerry Christopher
> <musta...@carolina-chat.com> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Ron Katz wrote:
> >> >
> >> > HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
> >> > 100 watt $100.00
>
> >
>
While is may be illegal where you are, it isn't here. In Australia, it
isn't illegal to possess a CB linear, but it is to use one. Just like
you can have a scanner that receives cellular but it's illegal to
listen...
Nick.
Andy Domonkos
Anthony R. Gold (tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk) wrote:
:
: Darren:
:
: How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
:
: An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
: kind to own anything whatever. If you had a license and knew how to
: read and understand it, you would already have known that.
:
: Regards,
: --
: Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tg...@panix.com
: tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk
: packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
I guess he means that licensed hams SUPPOSEDLY know how to run a clean
station. That's not the way it is in reality these days.
Andy
Andy Domonkos
Drew Durigan (VUB...@prodigy.com) wrote:
:
: Have you heard the garbage on 75 lately? Makes CB Channel 19 look like a
:
: -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
: KADF-6895
: KF4DDM
Yep, got off a 75M net once when we all had turn on our KW's to hear each
other after another net started up 2Khc below us us. It got into an
amplifier war, and we were all 40/9 by the time I had enough. I shut off
the rig/amp, turned on my CB, and had a decent QSO with some locals on
CH32.
I've since sold my HF amp, if I can't work anyone with 100 watts max, it's
not worth it. I only get on 80M CW these days, running 5 watts into an
endloaded half size 80M half-sloper. I'd run 2 watts but I'm trying to
make up for the reduced antenna size loss, my ERP is closer to 2 watts
this way.
Andy
N3LCW
Anthony R. Gold
> >
> > : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
> >
> >
>
> Wrong, If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
> argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs. Just do it and learn
> something new for yourself!!!
Darren:
Curtis Wheeler
Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
> In article <3240AA...@tate.com> Dste...@tate.com "Darren Stevens" writes:
>
> > >
> > > : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Wrong, If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
> > argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs. Just do it and learn
> > something new for yourself!!!
>
> Darren:
>
> How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
>
> An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
> kind to own anything whatever. If you had a license and knew how to
> read and understand it, you would already have known that.
The license itself does not authorize ownership of equipment. However
if you hold a licnese, the rule authorize possesion of equipment that
might otherwise be prohibited. So yeah... an amateu license does give
you persmission, so to speak, to own certain equipment.
To be rhetorical, as you were with Mr. "Stevens"... If you had a license
and knew how to read the rules, you'd know that.
Please see 95.411:
"(c) The FCC will presume that you have used a linear or other RF power
amplifier if -
(1) It is in your possesion or on your premises; and
(2) There is other evidence that you have operated your CB station with
more power than allowed by CB rule 10. Sec 95.410"
It should be noted that *mere possesion* is not a violation. Note
subparagraph (1) ends with the word "AND". This means that any
assumption by the FCC, under this rule, that you used an amp would be
based on possession AND other evidence, as described in (2).
Licensed hams fall under a clear exception when it comes to
possession...
95.411
"(d) Paragraph (c) of this section does not apply if you hold a license
in another radio service which allows you to operate an external power
amplifier."
However - an amplifier that is capable of transmitting on 11 meters will
not get the required type accpetance required to be able to market it
for sale. There are exception to the type accpetance rule on sale of
amps between licensed amateurs, or dealers that sell such amps to
licensed amatuers. See 97.315 for type accpetance requirements and
exceptions.
Regards
--
Curtis
KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL
Anthony R. Gold
In article <3242DD...@ricochet.net>
cwhe...@ricochet.net "Curtis Wheeler" writes:
> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> > An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
> > kind to own anything whatever.
[Snip FCC regulations which make no mention of ownership of anything.]
That's nice, but I stick to my position. And if you don't yet
understand the difference between concepts of ownership, possession
and use, then please check out a dictionary and then please try again.
If and when someone shows a section in Parts 95 or 97 with ownership
of equipment mentioned, I promise to pay close attention.
Actually in Part 97 there is one mention of ownership, but that
relates to the obligation of a Station Antenna Structure owner to
register it using FCC Form 854. See S 97.15(d).
Doug Hoy
In article <324226...@li.net>, b...@li.net says:
>
>Ron Katz wrote:
>>
>> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>> 100 watt $100.00
>> 600 watt $300.00
>> 1000 watt $500.00
>> 2000 watt $700.00
>> 5000 watt enquire
>> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>I am interested. Please mail me a list!!!!!!!! Do you have mobile
>antennas also?????????
>
>BGV
To whomever originated this spoof/troll:
Good one! You got nearly everybody yacking about nothing, and even a few
near-fights. A few IRO's, some sensible users, even the hams took the
opportunity to beat their drum. And now you even got me....
Kelpie 175
Donald Gray
domo...@access1.digex.net (Andy Domonkos) wrote:
>Anthony R. Gold (tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk) wrote:
>:
>: Darren:
>:
>: How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
>:
>: An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
>: kind to own anything whatever. If you had a license and knew how to
>: read and understand it, you would already have known that.
>:
>: Regards,
>: --
>: Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tg...@panix.com
>: tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk
>: packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
>I guess he means that licensed hams SUPPOSEDLY know how to run a clean
>station. That's not the way it is in reality these days.
>Andy
Right on, Andy - The exams now-a-days are too easy! Any one can get
lucky enought to guess the right tick box answers!
However, you can hardly blame newly licenced "hams" to go for the
"black boxes" instead of home brew - To home brew a radio to the
sophistication and performance of say an AOR8000 or a FRG9600 would be
too daunting for all but the hardiest of home brewers. The (relative)
low cost and outstanding performance and ease of aquisition makes the
black box an automatic answer!
This temptation creats a culture of hams who have studied hard to get
the licence and once they have it, they have no further interest in
the technical aspect of the hobby, dont own a soldering iron and use
their wallets as the means of getting their kit - woe betides us when
the kit goes wrong!!!
Listen to any hame frequency and listen to the proud operator say that
his Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood/ etc box .. very rarely now will you hear "It's
a homebrew exciter with a pair of KT77's in the final etc"...Those
were the days...
Yup, I got my licence nearly 30 years ago after a 2 hour written (not
tickbox) exam and then a morse test to get an HF licence! - the only
way to get on the air them days, was to home brew! And home brew test
kit to monitor what happens and how to fix it!
Most of you modern youngsters dont know your born! Pass me my walking
stick and tickle the cat's whisker again... Any one got a cohearer
(spelling?) for sale?
BTW: I have fallen to the temptations now - but I have an excuse - I
am a G3 xxx !!!!!!
Donald Gray
Free Agent V1.0 -
Eudora Lite V1.5.4
Please do not short the output or severe damage will be caused to the fuse.
(On a Sony power supply leaflet!)
Curtis Wheeler
Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
> In article <3242DD...@ricochet.net>
> cwhe...@ricochet.net "Curtis Wheeler" writes:
>
> > Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
> > > kind to own anything whatever.
>
>
> That's nice, but I stick to my position. And if you don't yet
> understand the difference between concepts of ownership, possession
> and use, then please check out a dictionary and then please try again.
>
> If and when someone shows a section in Parts 95 or 97 with ownership
> of equipment mentioned, I promise to pay close attention.
>
> Actually in Part 97 there is one mention of ownership, but that
> relates to the obligation of a Station Antenna Structure owner to
> register it using FCC Form 854. See S 97.15(d).
For Christ's sake... you are bigger nitpicker than me! In this
arguement it is quite easy to infer that the words "owning" and
"possesing" can be interchangable for the purposes of discussion. And
besides - I clarified that in my response by agreeing in my first
sentence that there was no authorization to own anything provided by an
amateur amateur license but that, "so to speak", it did. But in
additional to snipping the regs, you snipped all of my comments...
I wrote (quoting with my typos): "The license itself does not authorize
ownership of equipment. However if you hold a licnese, the rule
authorize possesion of equipment that might otherwise be prohibited. So
yeah... an amateu license does give you persmission, so to speak, to own
certain equipment."
But hey - you're right. The FCC won't ask you for the "pink slip" on
your linear. However - if you are not a ham, it would be illegal to buy
a CB amp since, without a type acceptance, it would be illegal to sell
it. In a roundabout way, you CAN'T own one if you can't buy or build
one. But that changes hen you have an appropriate license.
So for the rest of you that want to post arguements. If you are
inclined to write "own an amp" in a future post, please replace it with
"possess an amp" ... then we can argue the points of the regs.
Steve Arnold
I thought this newsgroup was for SCANNERS!!!!!!!!
Dr Pepper
tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk ("Anthony R. Gold") wrote:
>In article <3240AA...@tate.com> Dste...@tate.com "Darren Stevens" writes:
>> >
>> > : Why, it's not illegal to sell or own one... It's illegal to USE ONE!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Wrong, If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
>> argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs. Just do it and learn
>> something new for yourself!!!
>Darren:
>How can being a licensed ham make any such difference as you claim?
>An FCC amateur radio license carries with it no permissions of any
>kind to own anything whatever. If you had a license and knew how to
>read and understand it, you would already have known that.
>Regards,
>--
> Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tg...@panix.com
> tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk
> packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
NOOoooo, , , , , BUT, , , , , If the amplifier operates in the Ham
bands, then it makes a difference if you are a licenced Ham.
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
dj
Tom Sharples <shar...@tscan.com> wrote:
>IT IS ILLEGAL to offer a non-type-approved linear for sale to anyone except another
>ham, and even then, only if it was originally built for personal use. To manufacture
>linears for resale without FCC type approval IS ILLEGAL!!! And the FCC WILL NOT
>type-approve a linear for sale in the U.S., that is capable of being tuned to 11
>meters. And a non-ham is not allowed to modify a linear so that it can be tuned
>to 11 Meters. Just in case you were wondering...
>-Tom Sharples WA6HAS-
Shoot! And I was going to go into the CB linear manufacturing
business. Oh well guess I can always sell pot.
dj
dj
b...@li.net wrote:
>Ron Katz wrote:
>>
>> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
>> 100 watt $100.00
>> 300 watt $150.00
>> 600 watt $300.00
>> 1000 watt $500.00
>> 2000 watt $700.00
>> 5000 watt enquire
>> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
>> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
>I am interested. Please mail me a list!!!!!!!! Do you have mobile
>antennas also?????????
>BGV
Me too!
plu...@imap1.asu.edu
Steve Arnold (Super...@gnn.com) wrote:
: I thought this newsgroup was for SCANNERS!!!!!!!!
You should look to where you are crossposting. I am reading this on
rec.radio.cb (having unsubscribed to the two *.radio.scanner groups).
So, my response to this is:
No, it is not. It is for CBs!!
--
--Patrick
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George L. Vetterle
You can be sure that if the FCC comes knocking on your door, they have
already monitored your transmissions. If the signal is substantially
stronger than 4 watts through whatever antennae is on your roof should
be, then they could prudently assume that you are using illegal power.
If they "request" to inspect your station and find an 11 meter capable
linear (or other illegal equipment), they will cite you and probably
seize the illegal/illegally modified equipment. They are not concerned
with ownership, only possession. They will have pretty much determined
in advance that you have been using it.
In <843246...@microvst.demon.co.uk> tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk
("Anthony R. Gold") writes:
>
>In article <3242DD...@ricochet.net>
> cwhe...@ricochet.net "Curtis Wheeler" writes:
>
>> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
>> > kind to own anything whatever.
>
>
>That's nice, but I stick to my position. And if you don't yet
>understand the difference between concepts of ownership, possession
>and use, then please check out a dictionary and then please try again.
>
>If and when someone shows a section in Parts 95 or 97 with ownership
>of equipment mentioned, I promise to pay close attention.
>
>Actually in Part 97 there is one mention of ownership, but that
>relates to the obligation of a Station Antenna Structure owner to
>register it using FCC Form 854. See S 97.15(d).
>
>--
> Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tg...@panix.com
>
tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk
> packet:
g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
--
George L. Vetterle
geo...@ix.netcom.com
"A man has to know his limitations."-Dirty Harry Callahan, MAGNUM
FORCE, Malpaso (1973)
Anthony R. Gold
In article <324337...@ricochet.net>
cwhe...@ricochet.net "Curtis Wheeler" writes:
> For Christ's sake... you are bigger nitpicker than me!
That's a bit unfair. This started when I read:
In article <3240AA...@tate.com> Dste...@tate.com "Darren Stevens" writes:
>
> Wrong, If your not a licensed ham your not allowed to own one!! Don't
> argue with me, read the FCC rules and regs. Just do it and learn
> something new for yourself!!!
Now here we has a post, complete with both double and triple
exclamation marks and also complete with an order not to argue with
the poster. But the substance of the posting was complete twat.
I admit and I regret that I do have a strong aversion to seeing twat
(and twaddle, for that matter) going unchallenged in Usenet. The
problem with letting it go is that it then takes on a life of its
own, likely to be re-quoted and repeated as if it were accepted truth.
Peace.
Regards,
--
Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tg...@panix.com
tg...@microvst.demon.co.uk
packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
In this
> arguement it is quite easy to infer that the words "owning" and
> "possesing" can be interchangable for the purposes of discussion. And
> besides - I clarified that in my response by agreeing in my first
> sentence that there was no authorization to own anything provided by an
> amateur amateur license but that, "so to speak", it did. But in
> additional to snipping the regs, you snipped all of my comments...
>
> I wrote (quoting with my typos): "The license itself does not authorize
> ownership of equipment. However if you hold a licnese, the rule
> authorize possesion of equipment that might otherwise be prohibited. So
> yeah... an amateu license does give you persmission, so to speak, to own
> certain equipment."
>
> But hey - you're right. The FCC won't ask you for the "pink slip" on
> your linear. However - if you are not a ham, it would be illegal to buy
> a CB amp since, without a type acceptance, it would be illegal to sell
> it. In a roundabout way, you CAN'T own one if you can't buy or build
> one. But that changes hen you have an appropriate license.
>
> So for the rest of you that want to post arguements. If you are
> inclined to write "own an amp" in a future post, please replace it with
> "possess an amp" ... then we can argue the points of the regs.
>
> --
> Curtis
> KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL
>
--
Anthony R. Gold
Bill Cheek
Steve Arnold <Super...@gnn.com> wrote:
>I thought this newsgroup was for SCANNERS!!!!!!!!
Well........a CB linear usually has a preamp in it that COULD be used
with a scanner, I suppose........
Or....if you were into destructive testing of scanners, you could use
a CB linear to pump 500-watts into a scanner to see if it destructs.
:-))
Bill Cheek
Scannist Extraordinaire
Dr Pepper
Steve Arnold <Super...@gnn.com> wrote:
>I thought this newsgroup was for SCANNERS!!!!!!!!
And any other radios can't be scanned? or even talked about?
Michael Knight
> >
> >That's as opposed to a bunch of hams on 75 phone running
> >hundreds of watts?
> >
>
> Yes, because the nature of propagation tends to require higher power
> on 75M, and because the operators have at least had a passing familiarity
> with the safety and RFI issues associated with using amps.
>
> - Rich
>
> --
> My mailer has the unfortunate tendency to bounce 10,000 copies of any
> junk mail I receive back to the sender. Be warned.
What a load of CRAP!!!
oh by the way start bouncing if you can
T E I X E I R A
>>Ron Katz wrote:
Still think unlicensed people should be able to buy transmitters??????
DT AC6TG
Bill Nelson
Curtis Wheeler (cwhe...@ricochet.net) wrote:
: I wrote (quoting with my typos): "The license itself does not authorize
: ownership of equipment. However if you hold a licnese, the rule
: authorize possesion of equipment that might otherwise be prohibited. So
: yeah... an amateu license does give you persmission, so to speak, to own
: certain equipment."
Yes, you wrote it, but it is not true. Read about the part where possession
of an amp by a CBer is "presumed" to be used illegally. Note the "and", it
is critical to the section. Also note that there is no prohibition of
ownership.
: But hey - you're right. The FCC won't ask you for the "pink slip" on
: your linear. However - if you are not a ham, it would be illegal to buy
: a CB amp since, without a type acceptance, it would be illegal to sell
: it. In a roundabout way, you CAN'T own one if you can't buy or build
: one. But that changes hen you have an appropriate license.
How about Ham amps? There is no prohibition against even a CBer owning
or buying one - although many hams refuse to sell to someone without a
license.
: So for the rest of you that want to post arguements. If you are
: inclined to write "own an amp" in a future post, please replace it with
: "possess an amp" ... then we can argue the points of the regs.
See above, and the regs. Make that "use an amp", or even "CBer presumed
by FCC to have used an amp".
Bill
Anthony R. Gold
> Curtis Wheeler (cwhe...@ricochet.net) wrote:
>
> : I wrote (quoting with my typos): "The license itself does not authorize
> : ownership of equipment. However if you hold a licnese, the rule
> : authorize possesion of equipment that might otherwise be prohibited. So
> : yeah... an amateu license does give you persmission, so to speak, to own
> : certain equipment."
>
> Yes, you wrote it, but it is not true. Read about the part where possession
> of an amp by a CBer is "presumed" to be used illegally. Note the "and", it
> is critical to the section. Also note that there is no prohibition of
> ownership.
Bill, you should be warned that writing in simple accurate plain
English is taken to be unacceptable nit-picking in these newsgroups,
and likely to attract angry flames. And writing it in complete
sentences with correct puctuation will just add fuel to those flames.
Drew Durigan
D.G...@AutoComm.cityscape.co.uk (Donald Gray) wrote:
>
>Yup, I got my licence nearly 30 years ago after a 2 hour written (not
>tickbox) exam and then a morse test to get an HF licence! - the only
>way to get on the air them days, was to home brew! And home brew test
>kit to monitor what happens and how to fix it!
>
>Most of you modern youngsters dont know your born! Pass me my walking
>stick and tickle the cat's whisker again... Any one got a cohearer
>(spelling?) for sale?
Do you also still drive a car with a hand-crank starter? How about
communicating with spark-gaps and smoke signals?
hacker
John Wilkerson wrote:
>
> Rich & Katy Mulvey (mul...@ll.aa2ys.ampr.org) wrote:
> : On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:16:11 -0400, Jerry Christopher <musta...@carolina-chat.com> wrote:
>
> : intent to use, according to the FCC.
>
> : >And it's only illegal if you get caught.
>
> : You're not a criminal unless you get caught? Sorry, but your feeble
> : attempts to justify yourself don't help. A criminal is a criminal, no
> : matter how many people know about the crime.
>
> Well, I figure it is useless to try to explain anything to these
> criminals. Remember..... if a criminal was smart, they wouldn't be
> criminals.
>
> --
> John L. Wilkerson Jr. jo...@iwaynet.iwaynet.net
that is why you don't spit on the sidewalk, talk trash on the radio,
offer 100% assistance at EVERY car accident, throw ANYTHING out of your
car window <including cigarette butts and straw wrappers>
hmmm
hacker
Andy Domonkos wrote:
>
> Drew Durigan (VUB...@prodigy.com) wrote:
> :
> : Have you heard the garbage on 75 lately? Makes CB Channel 19 look like a
> : church picnic.
> :
> : KADF-6895
> : KF4DDM
> :
>
> Yep, got off a 75M net once when we all had turn on our KW's to hear each
> other after another net started up 2Khc below us us. It got into an
> amplifier war, and we were all 40/9 by the time I had enough. I shut off
> the rig/amp, turned on my CB, and had a decent QSO with some locals on
> CH32.
>
> I've since sold my HF amp, if I can't work anyone with 100 watts max, it's
> not worth it. I only get on 80M CW these days, running 5 watts into an
> endloaded half size 80M half-sloper. I'd run 2 watts but I'm trying to
> make up for the reduced antenna size loss, my ERP is closer to 2 watts
> this way.
>
> Andy
> N3LCW
this is wasting a lot of bandwidth....
Jay Vise
bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote in article
<3241C7...@genesee.freenet.org>...
> YOU ARE CORRECT!!!
> Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
> F.C.C. made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
> They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
> CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW
>
Forgive the stupid question to follow, but I'm new here.....
Why were the 23-chan outlawed? Higher power?
Jay
Bill Nelson
Jay Vise (jv...@mail.gs.net) wrote:
: bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote in article
: <3241C7...@genesee.freenet.org>...
: > Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
: > F.C.C. made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
: > They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
: > CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW
: Forgive the stupid question to follow, but I'm new here.....
:
: Why were the 23-chan outlawed? Higher power?
Beats me why he made that claim. They certainly are not higher power.
You can still buy three channel handheld radios from Radio Shack. I see
no reason why 23 channel radios would be banned.
However, there is little reason to produce such radios, as it is just
as easy to provide 40 channels.
Bill
Anthony Severdia
Bill, really replying to the original question. 23 CHANNEL CBs
were NEVER "BANNED" by the FCC. This is folklore, rumor, and what not!
If an banning took place, it was in the marketplace (only) by the
simple fact that 40 channels were most desireable. And, those with
SSB capability offered a "great new adventure" for CBers to escape
the noise and vocal crap of 23 CH AM. This is the reality of the
marketplace.
-=Tony=- "one who was there" and watching all the hype.
Curtis Wheeler
Bill Nelson wrote:
>
> Jay Vise (jv...@mail.gs.net) wrote:
>
> : bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote in article
> : <3241C7...@genesee.freenet.org>...
>
> : > Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
> : > F.C.C. made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
> : > They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
> : > CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW
>
> : Forgive the stupid question to follow, but I'm new here.....
> :
> : Why were the 23-chan outlawed? Higher power?
>
> Beats me why he made that claim. They certainly are not higher power.
>
> You can still buy three channel handheld radios from Radio Shack. I see
> no reason why 23 channel radios would be banned.
>
> However, there is little reason to produce such radios, as it is just
> as easy to provide 40 channels.
The type acceptance rules prohibit the manufacturing or marketing of any
CB transmitter that was type accepted before September of 1976. This
was about the time the 17 additional channels were made available.
It was my understanding that the reasoning behind this was to quickly
get users to the new channels and ease frequency crowding. You might
remember that CB was really busy back in mid 70's. The logic was that
some manufacturers might have continued making the 23 channel models-
this would make the 40 channels radios seem less useful. Eventually
this rule required everyone to get new type accpetances - a process that
made going to 40 channels easy.
However, I have never seen anything in the rules that says a CB has to
have 40 channels. Using a 20+ year old CB is still legal - you just
can't market or manufacture such a radio anymore.
Regards
Hippie Freak
dj (d...@cal.org) wrote:
: b...@li.net wrote:
: >Ron Katz wrote:
: >>
: >> HAY! Brand new CB linear amps in box & warrenty.
: >> 100 watt $100.00
: >> 300 watt $150.00
: >> 600 watt $300.00
: >> 1000 watt $500.00
: >> 2000 watt $700.00
: >> 5000 watt enquire
: >> CB radios all kinds $35 & up
: >> email me for a full catalogue of radio stuff.
: >I am interested. Please mail me a list!!!!!!!! Do you have mobile
: >antennas also?????????
: >BGV
: Me too!
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Bill Nelson wrote:
>
> Jay Vise (jv...@mail.gs.net) wrote:
>
> : bill kotarski <bkot...@genesee.freenet.org> wrote in article
> : <3241C7...@genesee.freenet.org>...
>
> : > Don't forget to MENTION that when the 40 channel CB's Got approved. The
> : > F.C.C. made another RULLING--- 23 channel cb's CAN NO LONGER BE SOLD,
> : > They may be only SOLD FOR PARTS ONLY , But you can use the 23 channel
> : > CB's if YOU OWNED it PRIOR to the ADDOPTION of this LAW
>
> : Forgive the stupid question to follow, but I'm new here.....
> :
> : Why were the 23-chan outlawed? Higher power?
>
> Beats me why he made that claim. They certainly are not higher power.
>
> You can still buy three channel handheld radios from Radio Shack. I see
> no reason why 23 channel radios would be banned.
>
> However, there is little reason to produce such radios, as it is just
> as easy to provide 40 channels.
>
23 channels were not banned nor are they outlawed.
this guy has his head up his ASS>
B. swanson
Brian wrote
all I have to say is to all of you is do what you want and stop
bringing your agurment onto the inet use personal email and not news
group because I have to say you are all the bigest bunch of wining little
babies I have ever seen.
and like someone else said if you don't get caught it is not a
crime.
tyler
>>
>>>Just what everyone needs! A bunch of CBers running hundreds of
>watts!!! tyler
>>>
>>
>>That's as opposed to a bunch of hams on 75 phone running
>>hundreds of watts?
>
>
>Have you heard the garbage on 75 lately? Makes CB Channel 19 look like a
>church picnic.
Yes, BUT, the guys on 75 aren't going to be bleeding all over every cordless
phone and PA system in the state.
Larry Shilkoff
B. swanson wrote:
>
> if you don't get caught it is not a crime.
>
And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.
Anthony S. Pelliccio
In article <32496A...@ix.netcom.com>,
Goes along with my theory about traffic lights after midnight. I apply
the "If a tree falls in the woods and there's nobody there to hear it
fall, does it make a sound?" principle. By that I mean, if it's after
midnight and there's nobody else around (most importantly there's not a
cop nearby), and you run the light, does anyone see you run the light?
Tony
--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== kd...@anomaly.ideamation.com
Ryan
So how can places sell linears? They are at CB Shops,
truck stops, and I have several catalogs with amps
in them, and they are available for ordering online also.
This is illegal? I am a licenced ham radio operator, also.
Any info on this apriciated.
Eric Oyen
Larry Shilkoff <shil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>B. swanson wrote:
>>
>> if you don't get caught it is not a crime.
>>
>And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.
Sound like the signes of the times to me. Anyone should realize that possession of a thing
that is defined as illegal is a crime, whether or not you get caught.
Those who make the point about not getting caught, therefor not having committed a crime,
are in the wrong. Eventually, they will slip up and get caught.
Brian E. Oakley
Anthony S. Pelliccio wrote:
>
> In article <32496A...@ix.netcom.com>,
> Larry Shilkoff <shil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >B. swanson wrote:
> >>
> >> if you don't get caught it is not a crime.
> >>
> >
> >And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.
>
> the "If a tree falls in the woods and there's nobody there to hear it
> fall, does it make a sound?" principle. By that I mean, if it's after
> midnight and there's nobody else around (most importantly there's not a
> cop nearby), and you run the light, does anyone see you run the light?
>
> Tony
>
> --
> == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
> == As offensive as I wanna be.
> == kd...@anomaly.ideamation.com
No, no one see you, but you still ran it.
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Jay123a
Drew Durigan
n7...@goodnet.com (Eric Oyen) wrote:
>Those who make the point about not getting caught, therefor not having
>committed a crime,
>are in the wrong. Eventually, they will slip up and get caught.
Only if there are sufficient levels of enforcement. This is clearly NOT
the case in CB radio today.
The FCC could make a lot of money in fines if they came to Orlando. I
can't count the number of stations that are openly operating with 1KW and
more. Lots of profanity, threats of physical violence, and outband
operation as well.
But, as usual, no one cares.
CDN
kd...@anomaly.ideamation.com (Anthony S. Pelliccio) wrote:
>In article <32496A...@ix.netcom.com>,
>Larry Shilkoff <shil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>B. swanson wrote:
>>>
>>> if you don't get caught it is not a crime.
>>>
>>
>>And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.
>
>
>Goes along with my theory about traffic lights after midnight. I apply
>the "If a tree falls in the woods and there's nobody there to hear it
>fall, does it make a sound?" principle. By that I mean, if it's after
>midnight and there's nobody else around (most importantly there's not a
>cop nearby), and you run the light, does anyone see you run the light?
>
>Tony
>
>--
>== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
>== As offensive as I wanna be.
>== kd...@anomaly.ideamation.com
I make a scad of money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from people who believe
just as you do.
Judge- How do you plead to the charge of running the stop sign?
Jerk (ooops,... Defendant)- I didn't see anyone around!
Cop- I saw you.
Judge- Guilty
Me- That'll be $500.
Jerk- But I didn't see anyone!
Brian S.
brian wrote
I can't belive you people still havn't learned to shut up yet
about this subject after the last posting that I put up! Stop your
stinking wining you are all clutering this news room full of unnessecary
information!!!!!!!!!
Brian S.
Brian wrote
I am looking for radio tag in the milwaukee area. The two major
letters in my handle are D.M. I am usually on ch.13 in
west allis/milwaukee. Again I am looking for radio tag or fox and hounds
on 11m or more commonly known as citizens band in the milwaukee area. I
already am aware of the ch.7 (west allis),13(millwaukee,west allis or
southsiders),3(northsiders). Please if you know of any other groups
please send replies to asw...@execpc.com.
Anthony S. Pelliccio
In article <52c9sp$1r...@news.goodnet.com>, Eric Oyen <n7...@goodnet.com> wrote:
>>And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.
>that is defined as illegal is a crime, whether or not you get caught.
In my opinion that's a major problem. There are some instances where
posession of a "thing" is fully legitimate but the cops don't seem to think
so.
>Those who make the point about not getting caught, therefor not having committed a crime,
>are in the wrong. Eventually, they will slip up and get caught.
>
True in a sense. But it also helps if you have some smarts about it and don't
tip your hand. How do you think they catch most cable pirates? It's either
through a friend (or ex-friend actually) that turns them in our they're
stupid enough to believe the free offers that cable providers run.
T E I X E I R A
>Brian wrote
>
> all I have to say is to all of you is do what you want and stop
>bringing your agurment onto the inet use personal email and not news
>group because I have to say you are all the bigest bunch of wining little
>babies I have ever seen.
>
> and like someone else said if you don't get caught it is not a
>crime.
Does that also mean if someone steals your car or your credit card and they don't get
caught it's not a crime????? OOOOOOk......... I hope you will be goin back to 11 meters
now.........
Dr Pepper
kd...@anomaly.ideamation.com (Anthony S. Pelliccio) wrote:
>In article <32496A...@ix.netcom.com>,
>Larry Shilkoff <shil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>B. swanson wrote:
>>>
>>> if you don't get caught it is not a crime.
>>>
>>
>>And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.
>Goes along with my theory about traffic lights after midnight. I apply
>the "If a tree falls in the woods and there's nobody there to hear it
>fall, does it make a sound?" principle. By that I mean, if it's after
>midnight and there's nobody else around (most importantly there's not a
>cop nearby), and you run the light, does anyone see you run the light?
Only if you are riding a motorcycle and don't see the semi comming
from the right , , , , , , , , ,
>Tony
Dr Pepper
10 - 2 - 4
George L. Vetterle
I was hoping that good buddy would repost his ad so's I could order me
one of them 5 gallon jugs. 1000 Watts just ain't enough to get out
around here no more. It's a real shame.
In <324236CD...@cogent.net> Jim Wayda <jwa...@cogent.net> writes:
>
>Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
>also serve jail time. It is not worth it.
>
>Jim Wayda
--
George L. Vetterle
geo...@ix.netcom.com
provocateur (uncredentialed)
Barry Rose
In article <52e0r5$17...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, VUB...@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>n7...@goodnet.com (Eric Oyen) wrote:
>
>>Those who make the point about not getting caught, therefor not having
>>committed a crime,
>>are in the wrong. Eventually, they will slip up and get caught.
>
>
>the case in CB radio today.
>
>The FCC could make a lot of money in fines if they came to Orlando. I
>can't count the number of stations that are openly operating with 1KW and
>more. Lots of profanity, threats of physical violence, and outband
>operation as well.
>
>But, as usual, no one cares.
>
>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KADF-6895
> KF4DDM
I disagree. The FCC does care and they WILL act as proven by our clubs
interference committee. The FCC has levied a $6000 NAL against a local CBer
because of the efforts of our interference committee. The letter our
interference committee chairman received from the FCC notifying us of their
NAL started out as " The first lady, Hillary Clinton has asked us to...".
The full story and the NAL is on our homepage. http://www.indirect.com/www/ara
Don't give up trying to rid your frequencies of the crud. Our guys didn't and
we got results.
Barry Rose
Charles P. Hobbs
Anthony S. Pelliccio wrote:
>
> In article <32496A...@ix.netcom.com>,
> Larry Shilkoff <shil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >B. swanson wrote:
> >>
> >> if you don't get caught it is not a crime.
> >>
> >
> >And people wonder why our social norms appear to be declining.
>
> Goes along with my theory about traffic lights after midnight. I apply
> the "If a tree falls in the woods and there's nobody there to hear it
> fall, does it make a sound?" principle. By that I mean, if it's after
> midnight and there's nobody else around (most importantly there's not a
> cop nearby), and you run the light, does anyone see you run the light?
>
I don't know if anyone saw you run the light, but .. .if someone
buys one of those 5 Kw amps and fires it up on CB, we'll *all*
hear about it (on our radios and TV's and telephones and teeth and . .
.
:-)
Doug D
T E I X E I R A <teix...@ccnet.com> wrote:
>>Brian wrote
>>
>> all I have to say is to all of you is do what you want and stop
>>bringing your agurment onto the inet use personal email and not news
>>group because I have to say you are all the bigest bunch of wining little
>>babies I have ever seen.
>>
>> and like someone else said if you don't get caught it is not a
>>crime.
>Does that also mean if someone steals your car or your credit card and they don't get
>caught it's not a crime????? OOOOOOk......... I hope you will be goin back to 11 meters
>now.........
This is an 11-meter newsgroup...you idiot!
--
Doug's Personal Defense Products
http://lrbcg.com/dougd/index.htm
d.fon...@sk.sympatico.ca
I agree this is a 11 meter newsgroup so why doesn't everybody keep on
that subject and have fun with it.
Denis
Old Sarge
Jim Wayda wrote:
>
> Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
> also serve jail time. It is not worth it.
>
> Jim Wayda
Yeah, right. Just like, oh no, don't listen in to cell phone calls or
portable phone calls or Big Brother will surely get you.
Sure, CB amps have been illegal for decades, and I DO mean decades as I
was into CB back in the early 60's when 5 watts was the norm. The FCC,
due to budget cuts and disinterest, has abandoned almost entirely,
enforcing the CB rules and regulations. It's not manageable anymore.
They appear to be focusing on the big time violators with large
overpowered stations that just won't quit and pushing RF's into every
home within a mile or two.
As for have a little "pusher" attached to your mobile unit or base
station for those times the jerks won't cut their own power, I
personally see nothing wrong with it as along as you do not cause
interference to your neighbor's TV or other electronic devices.
I had a 400 Watter once and every time I fired it up (tubes had to warm
up first), the lights in my apartment would dim almost out and I burned
up my cheap antenna.
Before people start jumping on what's illegal or not, look at your
scanner radio and see if it's able to monitor cell phone frequencies.
If it can, YOU are also illegal. So leave it alone unless it personally
bothers you or interferes with your quality of life, if you have a life
at all.
--
*********************************************************
Rich Greene E-7 USA Ret - http://www.wolfenet.com/~rich
Mailhandler, USPS Seattle - old....@worldnet.att.net
*********************************************************
Sherrod Munday
Old Sarge <old....@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Jim Wayda wrote:
>>
>> Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
>> also serve jail time. It is not worth it.
>>
>> Jim Wayda
>Yeah, right. Just like, oh no, don't listen in to cell phone calls or
>portable phone calls or Big Brother will surely get you.
>Sure, CB amps have been illegal for decades, and I DO mean decades as I
>was into CB back in the early 60's when 5 watts was the norm. The FCC,
>due to budget cuts and disinterest, has abandoned almost entirely,
>enforcing the CB rules and regulations. It's not manageable anymore.
>They appear to be focusing on the big time violators with large
>overpowered stations that just won't quit and pushing RF's into every
>home within a mile or two.
>As for have a little "pusher" attached to your mobile unit or base
>station for those times the jerks won't cut their own power, I
>personally see nothing wrong with it as along as you do not cause
>interference to your neighbor's TV or other electronic devices.
>
>I had a 400 Watter once and every time I fired it up (tubes had to warm
>up first), the lights in my apartment would dim almost out and I burned
>up my cheap antenna.
>Before people start jumping on what's illegal or not, look at your
>scanner radio and see if it's able to monitor cell phone frequencies.
>If it can, YOU are also illegal. So leave it alone unless it personally
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (I take issue with that. See below.)
>bothers you or interferes with your quality of life, if you have a life
>at all.
>--
>*********************************************************
>Rich Greene E-7 USA Ret - http://www.wolfenet.com/~rich
>Mailhandler, USPS Seattle - old....@worldnet.att.net
>*********************************************************
Since you're playing semantics...
The ownership of a radio capable of receiving cell-phone frequencies
is not in as of itself illegal. The usage of such a radio _in_
order_to_receive_cell_phone_calls_ would, indeed, be illegal.
Remember, the FCC and the ECPA did not retroactively ban all
pre-exisiting radios that are capable of receiving cell-phone freqs.
They only banned the mfr. or importing of such radios after the April
deadline a couple of years ago. Nowhere was it stated that radios
could not be capable of receiving the freqs. Listening to the freqs,
though, is taboo.
Your serve. ;-)
(Don't get too hyped up- I'm not flaming you!!! :-)
Sherrod
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do not in any way reflect the views of his employer, or his Internet
service provider. Any correspondence regarding the above content
should be directed to the author of the content.
Harold Swanson
Old Sarge wrote:
>
> Jim Wayda wrote:
> >
> > Do not buy a CB Linear amplifier. You could be fined by the FCC and
> > also serve jail time. It is not worth it.
> >
> > Jim Wayda
>
> Yeah, right. Just like, oh no, don't listen in to cell phone calls or
> portable phone calls or Big Brother will surely get you.
>
> Sure, CB amps have been illegal for decades, and I DO mean decades as I
> was into CB back in the early 60's when 5 watts was the norm. The FCC,
> due to budget cuts and disinterest, has abandoned almost entirely,
> enforcing the CB rules and regulations. It's not manageable anymore.
> They appear to be focusing on the big time violators with large
> overpowered stations that just won't quit and pushing RF's into every
> home within a mile or two.
>
> As for have a little "pusher" attached to your mobile unit or base
> station for those times the jerks won't cut their own power, I
> personally see nothing wrong with it as along as you do not cause
> interference to your neighbor's TV or other electronic devices.
>
> I had a 400 Watter once and every time I fired it up (tubes had to warm
> up first), the lights in my apartment would dim almost out and I burned
> up my cheap antenna.
>
> Before people start jumping on what's illegal or not, look at your
> scanner radio and see if it's able to monitor cell phone frequencies.
personally
Harold Swanson
It would be nice if this thread would stop it is geting repeatative and
anoyying to everyone, and if you want to continue it use email! :|
McInnis
In article <324FF9...@worldnet.att.net>, Old Sarge <old....@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>...
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> Before people start jumping on what's illegal or not, look at your
> scanner radio and see if it's able to monitor cell phone frequencies.
> If it can, YOU are also illegal. So leave it alone unless it personally
> bothers you or interferes with your quality of life, if you have a life
> at all.
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> Rich Greene E-7 USA Ret - http://www.wolfenet.com/~rich
> Mailhandler, USPS Seattle - old....@worldnet.att.net
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Wrong. It's not usually illegal to own a scanner capable of receiving
cell phone calls as long as it was made before the ban took effect. It
IS illegal in general to listen to cell phone calls no matter if the
scanner is legal or not. It is illegal in general to manufacture new
scanners capable of receiving cell phone frequencies.
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Mickey McInnis - mci...@austin.ibm.com
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