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d. mcg3

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS UNIT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THANKS IN ADVANCE

MC TURNER

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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The 9000 is basically a copy of the 99v Galaxy. The board is very
similar to the 99s but it is a different board. The galaxy in my
opinion is better because: the knobs and switches seem tighter and
nicer, The Galaxy has heavy grounding through out, the galaxy has the
older style channel selector switch instead of the momentary one on the
9000. I had many problems with my 9000. The talk back would get loud
due to a hot Audio chip. replacing the chip would cure it for a week or
two. Northstar is aware of the problem but they will not let you know
the fix. I sold mine to a friend after the I sent it back for repair.
Since then it has been great. Expect similar power output as the 99v.
I show about 33 watts on a bird. I would not recommend doing the 99v
mods to this radio. A crank of the AMC and ALC is all that i would do.
Heat is the 9000s enemy. keep it cool and it works great. For some
reason the RX is much better on the 9000 but only after it was sent
back. You really can hear more stations with the 9000. I would pass
this off as just a good alignment that was done at the factory. If I
had to choose i would get the 99v as it is more solid and is a little
cheaper. I have a swing mod that you can use on the 9000 as well as any
galaxy radio but as i said before the 9000 does not like heat and the
Mod does make a little more heat.


MC

EMO

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Dec 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/28/98
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mc

this guy wants info on the base ns9500 not the ns9000 mobile and as for 9000
vs 99 i like the 9000 better cause warrenty(factory support), stable on ssb
99v is not ,extra robot board and voice changer is junk in 99v(cant
understand it) ,and better channel selector in the 9000 (reports have it
galaxy will go to same selector soon) and if you wait the new 9000 the 9000
xl will have a SIX digit freq counter

as for the 9500 it seems to work ok have had one for a month so its to soon
to tell if it is durable

i believe exports r us is the cheepest place to buy it on the net

feel free to give me as much shit as you want as i am open to debate


EMO
(sometimes known as
NOTORIUS #1 in the nw corner)

d. mcg3 wrote in message <3687EB99...@csionline.net>...

Dennis Lassetter

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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MC, I think he was refering to the 9500 base unit. Group: rec.radio.cb
Date: Mon, Dec 28, 1998, 3:13pm (EST-2) From: C_TU...@IX.NETCOM.COM
(MC TURNER) Re: NORTHSTAR NS-9500?
ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS UNIT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANKS IN ADVANCE

•:<<:{DENNIS IN GA.}:>>:•ª™


Sean

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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What ??????? Both the NS 9000 and the Galaxy DX 99 have drifting
problems in my book. Since Northstar doesn't know how to design
a radio on their own and basically copy the Galaxy designs part
value for part value, both radios will suffer the same problems.
The Galaxy radios DO have factory 2 year warranties compared to
the Northstar's one year warranty. The Galaxy warranty is intact
as long as the radio wasn't HACKED to hell and back and I know
that the same goes for the Northstars. As to the intelligibility
of the robot / voice changer, all you have to do is turn down the
mic gain and talk in a slow, clear voice. You are distorting
your voice, so you have to make sure that you do your best to be
understood. They are toys and not meant to be the best means of
communications. The Northstar having a better channel selector
??? They are JUNK and feel like slop compared to the Galaxy
channel selector. They don't have proper detents and tend to hop
over channels at random. I PRAY that Galaxy doesn't start using
JUNK parts. As to the future Northstars having 6 digit counters,
I can understand that. They have to try and keep up with the
leaders in the industry that they try to clone. Ranger
manufactured radios have had 6 digit counters for several years
now. Northstar really is WAY behind the times. Why buy a clone
using cheaper parts when you can buy an original that sets the
pace for the others to copy. Sean
>
>
EMO wrote in message <769t2g$la3$1...@news.cyberhighway.net>...

Hillbilly_1943

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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the Northstars are made by Cherokee. (wireless marketing corp)


Sean wrote in message <76aats$10k$1...@news.megsinet.net>...

MC TURNER

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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Your right. But the 9500 is the same as a 9000 mobile but in a large case
with a Computer power supply! all of my info remains accurate.

MC

Dennis Lassetter wrote:

> ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS UNIT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANKS IN ADVANCE
>

> •:<<:{DENNIS IN GA.}:>>:•ª™


MC TURNER

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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EMO wrote:

> mc
>
> this guy wants info on the base ns9500 not the ns9000 mobile

Same radios inside.

> and as for 9000
> vs 99 i like the 9000 better cause warrenty(factory support),

Ok i will give you that. it is nice to have a warranty.

> stable on ssb

Nope same board. The 9000 is just as bad when it is cold.

>
> 99v is not ,extra robot board and voice changer is junk in 99v(cant
> understand it)

I will give you that too cause i don't use it on the 99 but it is an extra that
somebody else might like.

> ,and better channel selector in the 9000 (reports have it
> galaxy will go to same selector soon)

Hope not. The TTL chip inside is rated at a low voltage. for most people this
will not be a problem but if you have a power supply that runs 15 volts long
term you will be buying ttl chips. It took me weeks to figure out why they
where failing. leave it on for an hour and then touch that chip even at 14
volts. It will be hot. Also the momentary switch on the selector just does not
have the feel of the 99s. Plus some times if you turn it to fast or to slow it
will skip channels.

> and if you wait the new 9000 the 9000
> xl will have a SIX digit freq counter

that would be nice.

>
>
> as for the 9500 it seems to work ok have had one for a month so its to soon
> to tell if it is durable

remember the 9500 is just a 9000 mobile in a large box with a PC power supply.
It is the same radio. Don't get me wrong. I like the Northstars. If I had to
choose i would get the galaxy though. After having both brand new i just like
the 99v better. I do like the look and the face of the 9000 over the 99v
though. the matte paint on the 99v is kind of cheesy.

>
>
> i believe exports r us is the cheepest place to buy it on the net
>
> feel free to give me as much shit as you want as i am open to debate
>

No shit to give just a difference of opinion.

MC

>
> EMO
> (sometimes known as
> NOTORIUS #1 in the nw corner)
>
> d. mcg3 wrote in message <3687EB99...@csionline.net>...

MC TURNER

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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Sean wrote:

> What ??????? Both the NS 9000 and the Galaxy DX 99 have drifting
> problems in my book.

Yep read my above post.

> Since Northstar doesn't know how to design
> a radio on their own and basically copy the Galaxy designs part
> value for part value, both radios will suffer the same problems.

Right.

>
> The Galaxy radios DO have factory 2 year warranties compared to
> the Northstar's one year warranty. The Galaxy warranty is intact
> as long as the radio wasn't HACKED to hell and back and I know
> that the same goes for the Northstars. As to the intelligibility
> of the robot / voice changer, all you have to do is turn down the
> mic gain and talk in a slow, clear voice. You are distorting
> your voice, so you have to make sure that you do your best to be
> understood. They are toys and not meant to be the best means of
> communications.

even though i don't use it I see it as a advantage. You get it for free
with the 99v. (hey that rimes:)

> The Northstar having a better channel selector
> ??? They are JUNK and feel like slop compared to the Galaxy
> channel selector. They don't have proper detents and tend to hop
> over channels at random. I PRAY that Galaxy doesn't start using
> JUNK parts.

I said that too.

> As to the future Northstars having 6 digit counters,
> I can understand that. They have to try and keep up with the
> leaders in the industry that they try to clone. Ranger
> manufactured radios have had 6 digit counters for several years
> now. Northstar really is WAY behind the times. Why buy a clone
> using cheaper parts when you can buy an original that sets the
> pace for the others to copy. Sean

BOOM. you hit in on the head with this post. I wrote mine before I
read yours. they are so close it is scary:)

MC

>
> >
> >
> EMO wrote in message <769t2g$la3$1...@news.cyberhighway.net>...

> >mc
> >
> >this guy wants info on the base ns9500 not the ns9000 mobile and


> as for 9000
> >vs 99 i like the 9000 better cause warrenty(factory support),

> stable on ssb


> >99v is not ,extra robot board and voice changer is junk in
> 99v(cant

> >understand it) ,and better channel selector in the 9000 (reports
> have it
> >galaxy will go to same selector soon) and if you wait the new


> 9000 the 9000
> >xl will have a SIX digit freq counter
> >

> >as for the 9500 it seems to work ok have had one for a month so
> its to soon
> >to tell if it is durable
> >

> >i believe exports r us is the cheepest place to buy it on the
> net
> >
> >feel free to give me as much shit as you want as i am open to
> debate
> >
> >

Dennis Lassetter

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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I may be wrong as I sometimes am but I would think that a power supply
board out of or made for a computer would be much more dependable that
most of the cheap power supply boards found in most base CB radios.

•:<<:{DENNIS IN GA.}:>>:•ª™


Wyandot9

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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I have had my NS9500 for about 8 months,not a problem so far. It has a cooling
fan built in so no heat problems. The only thing that I wish it had was an"
inner and outer" control knob for the echo speed and reverb.BUT, since I don't
use echo very much at all, it doesn't really matter.I have a D104 m6b mic. on
it and it seems to work very well up here in Vermont.
73 's Towchain

Ramrod

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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EMO wrote:

> (reports have it galaxy will go to same selector soon)

Galaxy will never use that sloppy channel selector.


Ramrod

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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Wyandot9 wrote:

> I have had my NS9500 for about 8 months,not a problem so far. It has a cooling
> fan built in so no heat problems.

That cooling fan doesn't do anything for the heat inside your radio. The fan you
mention is to keep the cheap $18.00 computer transistor switching power supply
from over heating. Northstar could have at least cut the computer mother board
connectors and floppy drive connectors off before they installed it in the radio.


Ramrod

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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I think transistor switching type supplies tend to over heat when they
start to pull current. That's not really the point that I was trying to
make but it was the way northstar stuck the computer supplies in the
chassis with all the drive wiring and connectors hanging. Another thing is
that DC switching is very noisy and not a good idea to use next to the
receiver. That's why you see the radio itself all boxed in an RF shield.
By the way what's the formula for figuring out the current on those
computer power supplies? Most of them are 200 watt power supplies.

EXPORTSRUS

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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Alot of great post here. Some of the new galaxys like the 73 due have almost
the same channal selector board in them now and they will from what we have
been told have to go to this type due to the maker of this part. We have sold
alot of the Galaxys and also alot of the Northstars and we have had some
defective radios from both makers come back for warranty. We have had a faster
turn around time with the Northstar products and the majority of the time they
will replace the radio with a new one and not just repair it. All of the
Galaxys have went to the repair center and yes they did repair them and did a
great job. Northstar when they send a new radio out for the other in exchange
will take the bad unit and refurb it and offer it on the market at a reduced
price. Greg and his staff of techs at Wireless Marketing do a wonderful job.
As for the drift, I really don't know anything about how this happens and Sean
and the other techs on this group can explain that. I can only explain what
we have had as service from both Northstar and Galaxy, and both do a great job,
Northstar is just faster at it. Had a NS440 come back to us the other day and
it was sold almost 9 months ago. Instead of repairing it, we were sent a new
4000 and our customer got a new radio with a new warranty, He is very happy.
Happy New Years to you all. By the way, I do talk on a NS 9000 and A Galaxy
99V in the mobiles and now a NS 9500 base and I do lean toward the Northstar
Performance.


Thanks, Steve
http://members.aol.com/cbs313/Index.html

MC TURNER

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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I saw that too. That if you ask me is real cheesy. Plus it is only 12.2 volts I
would run a separate power supply for it. I can see it coming now. In two or three
years this group is going to be filled with people with dead 9500s.


MC

MC TURNER

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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Since i work in the field i can answer this. Most computer power
supply's are really cheap. I can buy the same one that is in that 9500
for about $4 brand new. You would be suprised. I used to order cases of
the from over seas for next to nothing. You can get good ones but they
are more like $50-100. I have a 500 watt PC Power and cooling one that is
over $100. The main problem in using them is that they are 12 volt. You
typically see 12.1 -12.5 out of them. Not really enough to run a SSB
radio like the 9500. I would bet you would see more watts out if it where
at 13.8 or even 14.5 volts like it should be. They also cant handle the
surge a radio puts on a power supply. they are made to run some thing
constant. As a result they are built with a low capacity.


MC

MC TURNER

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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Great post but in the last line you said you lean toward the Northstar
performance? I typically see less watts out of a 9000 than a 99v. Some are very
close and can be brought up to the 99vs levels but they are usualy a little less.
As far as the rest of the radio i cant imagine what you think is better as they are
almost identical inside. Hmmm.............


MC

dennis W. Ostrowski

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Dec 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/30/98
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MC TURNER wrote:
>
> Since i work in the field i can answer this. Most computer power
> supply's are really cheap. I can buy the same one that is in that 9500
> for about $4 brand new. You would be suprised. I used to order cases of
> the from over seas for next to nothing. You can get good ones but they
> are more like $50-100. I have a 500 watt PC Power and cooling one that is
> over $100. The main problem in using them is that they are 12 volt. You
> typically see 12.1 -12.5 out of them. Not really enough to run a SSB
> radio like the 9500. I would bet you would see more watts out if it where
> at 13.8 or even 14.5 volts like it should be. They also cant handle the
> surge a radio puts on a power supply. they are made to run some thing
> constant. As a result they are built with a low capacity.

My experience with them is that they regulate the
5VDC and do not regulate the 12VDC, and simply
have the 12VDC 'track' the 5VDC.

If you have a voltage adjustment on your 5VDC
supply and increase it to 5.8VDC, you should see
14VDC from the 12V supply.

I have done this myself so I know that the trick
works....

Just be careful you don't exceed the overvoltage
crowbar limit of the 5VDC supply, and also make
sure you have a load on that 5VDC supply of at
least 10% of it's maximum current rating.

Dennis

#12

Ramrod

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Dec 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/31/98
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EXPORTSRUS wrote:

> Some of the new galaxys like the 73 due have almost the same channal selector
> board in them now and they will from what we have been told have to go to this
> type due to the maker of this part.

That is an incorrect statement Steve. The DX73 uses the same design channel
selector switch as all of the other "DX" mobiles.

EXPORTSRUS

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>That is an incorrect statement Steve. The DX73 uses the same design channel
>selector switch as all of the other "DX" mobiles.
>

Ramrod, we just set up a Galaxy 73 and the channal selector was almost the
same. Our techs were very surprised as well.

Thanks, Steve
http://members.aol.com/cbs313/Index.html

Ramrod

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Dec 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/31/98
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What's the part number on the back of the channel selector of the DX73, GPS-501?
Now tell me what you see on the back of a DX88 channel selector, GPS-501?

Hillbilly_1943

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Dec 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/31/98
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I've got one on the shelf now. I'll check it out today.... dave


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Sean

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Dec 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/31/98
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I know that Galaxy is not using those cheesy channel selectors
that Northstar is using. Even if I wasn't sure of this, I'd be
putting my money on Ramrod over ANY other tech in this specific
situation !!! Sean

Sharon Sherwood

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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In article <3687EB99...@csionline.net>,
"d. mcg3" <mc...@csionline.net> wrote:

>ANY FEEDBACK ON THIS UNIT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>THANKS IN ADVANCE
>
>

I have tried and tried again to tell people if your gonna run a radio on the citizens band get a
citizens band radio. These cheap, piss poor excusess 10 meter amature band radio a big hunks of
splatering, drifting, broad-band pieces of shit.

OOOoooo... they go outta band WOW! Thats great how many people do you talk to on normal basis
that normally talk outta band. DUH! Wow! It's got echo, Big deal, that means ya listen to peole
say your echo sounds like shit. But it has a roger beep. (Sarcasim on) well isn't that the shit!
(Sarcasim off) Neato I can order one for $10 bucks, Yay!. It has a 10Kc switch! Big deal most
good CB's will silde 10-15Kc depending on how ya do it. Well it has more power you say. Who gives
a shit! I could spend $150 dollars for a good Am/ssb radio and $300 for a 400W messenger amp and
I saved more money than buying one of those big bad 10 meter hunks of junk, and have 4x the
power. Seeing that anyting over about 200W is a waste of power. Well it has FM, big deal i slide
3Kc down and I can listen in on the conversation no problem.


Donald Sherwood

Indipendandt Audio enthuzist
Will be Joining the Compititions in the near future
601+
PPI..JL AUDIO..MB QUART..ALPINE

Ramrod

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Jan 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/3/99
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Since you know so much, I'll let you in on a little secret.
You don't know squat!

Sharon Sherwood

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Jan 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/4/99
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In article <368FBFAB...@lords.com>,
Ramrod <Ram...@lords.com> wrote:

Well coming from a Ramrod thats what I would expect you to say.
Well if your are so self-endowed with the all knowing attitude tell me why I don't know squat?
People like you will top dollar for a radio that has a lot of buttons and knobs.
(Sarcasim on)Yeah I sure know a lot of hams that run these pieces of junk , NOT! (Sarcasim off).
They are cheap and they appeal to the low budget minds of people like you. I live in a twon that
is filled with idiots that endorse and love these radios. These are also the golden screwdriver
wizards that swear that those little CB secret tweak and peak [paper backs are the bibles on how
to work on there radios.

I part buy your actions and statement above Ramrod I would place you in the catagory of these
people that think in order to be heard you have to bleed over all 40 channels.

So i'll leave you with a invitation to find me on LSB 27.385Mhz (38) to argue with me.

Brian Bower

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Jan 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/7/99
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Donald Sherwood says he lives in a Twon filled with idiots
hahahhaha.....the correct spelling for Town is TOWN (Sarcasm - on)
Just my 5 cents
T- Rex
Las Vegas Nevada


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