Is the Radio Shack Vertical an Antron A99?
ron...@dejazzd.com
Shack I have located a discontinued vertical identical to the Antron at
only $25.00 regular $69.00. Is this really the same antenna made by
Antron for Radio Shack? I have searched the archives and found talk
about the subject but nothing concrete. Is it "identical" except for the
name?
Thanks
Keith Hosman
personally I prefer the Solarcon version, but everyone has their own
favorite, If you really want a decent vertical, pick up a good 5/8
wave ground plane Maco makes a decent one.
Keith
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Executive Board Member: Henry County Chapter - American Red Cross
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Bert Craig
>wave ground plane Maco makes a decent one.
>
>Keith
Agreed, Keith. If you have deep pockets, the Mosley 5/8-wave ground planes are
hard to beat. Not in performance, but in construction. A well designed 5/8-wave
is a 5/8-wave is a 5/8-wave, in terms of performance. Their Devant series cost
over $300 though. I'd say try the Solarcon IMAX-2000. I'll provide the link for
you "high-rollers" anyway.
http://www.mosley-electronics.com/cb_main.htm
Any thoughts, Jay?
73 de Bert
KC2HMN
Dave or Debby
work or the match is high. It is BASICALLY the SAME THING as an antron, big
stick, and other similar design antennas that have no radials. So for $25
it may be a good deal, even though I usually steer all away from RATS !
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Keith Hosman
Solarcon has a plant not too far from where I live, in fact I have a
friend who works there.
Jay in the Mojave
if they had anything new and wonderful, cost 10 bucks. This antenna has
been advertised in old 1960's, 1970's, and 1980's CB Magazines.
I have never seen any of the Devant Special, or Devant 1, 5/8 antennas.
The Devant Special has a Top-Hat, that slightly loads the antenna
capactivly, allowing for less Impedance Matching circuitry, allowing for
less loss in the matching circuit. And is advertised a having 3.4 dB
gain as compared to the Devant 1, at 3.0 dB, that does not have a
Top-Hat assembly. No dB gain references are given, but are probably dBi
figures.
These antennas use only 3 ground plane radials, and I have measured the
difference between 3 and 4 ground plane radials, as the 4 ground plane
radials, give the antenna a wider bandwidth.
They use what they call a "Induct-O-Match" Impedance Matching, parallel
then series inductor matching system, same as seen on the MaCo V5/8, the
Penetrator 500, and a few other antennas.
The antenna is 19 feet tall, 228 inches tall. The Penetrator 500 is 257
3/8 inches tall. The performance is probably still very close, even
being shorter.
But its a light weight, none reinforced, tubing fitting into smaller
tubing type construction. I am sure it can be easily reinforced, not
like the foreign
type antennas, with there cheap vertical ribbed tubing, and odd ball
sizes.
Its probably a good antenna.
I have a I Max-2000 that a guy wants Ground Plane Radials installed onto
it.
We will see.
Jay in the Mojave
Richard Cranium
RatCrap used to sell a version of the Shakespear "Big Stick", colored
a lilght blue.
Way to tell what it is:
If it's in two pieces, it's a Big Stick copy.
If it's three pieces, it's an Antron 99 copy.
Performance-wise there's not much difference, although IMHO the Big
Stick seems to be better made (stronger). Either way, for only $25
it's probably not a bad deal.
Jay in the Mojave
ban saw and see what's ah cookin there!
Jay in the Mojave
Bert Craig
>if they had anything new and wonderful, cost 10 bucks.
Ten bucks!!! At least Maco lets you download theirs off their site.
>This antenna has
>been advertised in old 1960's, 1970's, and 1980's CB Magazines.
>
Yeah, I have a bunck of old CB magazines fron the 70's. I realized that my very
first base antenna was a Cushcraft CX-1000. It looks like a Maco V58 without
the radials. It was advertised as having 3.75dB(?) gain. Probably a 1/2-wave.
Worked well though.
>I have never seen any of the Devant Special, or Devant 1, 5/8 antennas.
I have, on a former neighbor's house. Gotta say...it did look good. I'll likely
never own one at that price though. Here's my 11-meter summer project.
http://www.gopherlink.com/DeltaXray/hfantenn.htm
>
>The Devant Special has a Top-Hat, that slightly loads the antenna
>capactivly, allowing for less Impedance Matching circuitry, allowing for
>less loss in the matching circuit. And is advertised a having 3.4 dB
>gain as compared to the Devant 1, at 3.0 dB, that does not have a
>Top-Hat assembly. No dB gain references are given, but are probably dBi
>figures.
Sounds good. :-)
>These antennas use only 3 ground plane radials, and I have measured the
>difference between 3 and 4 ground plane radials, as the 4 ground plane
>radials, give the antenna a wider bandwidth.
I'm only on chs. 36 through 40 now. I remember an old Archer (Radio Shack) CB
base antenna that used a similar configuration.
>They use what they call a "Induct-O-Match" Impedance Matching, parallel
>then series inductor matching system, same as seen on the MaCo V5/8, the
>Penetrator 500, and a few other antennas.
Just a different shape, eh?
>The antenna is 19 feet tall, 228 inches tall. The Penetrator 500 is 257
>3/8 inches tall. The performance is probably still very close, even
>being shorter.
I'd love to find an old AS M-800 Super Penetrator. That was a 5/8-wave. See, I
do my homework...sometimes. I still have that M-400 NIB. :-)
>But its a light weight, none reinforced, tubing fitting into smaller
>tubing type construction. I am sure it can be easily reinforced, not
>like the foreign
>type antennas, with there cheap vertical ribbed tubing, and odd ball
>sizes.
For $300, it shouldn't need to be reinforced.
>Its probably a good antenna.
For $300... (You get the idea.)
>I have a I Max-2000 that a guy wants Ground Plane Radials installed onto
>it.
Can you do this? I don't think the matching system employed was meant to be
used with radials. Copper just sent me an advertisement about their new ground
plane attachment bracket for the IMAX-2000. Dunno, you tell me?
>We will see.
Lemme know.
>Jay in the Mojave
That's "Great" Mojave! Take it easy, Jay.
73 de Bert
KC2HMN
Jay in the Mojave
Bert Craig wrote:
>
> >Hello Bert: I ordered the Mosley Devant assembly instructions, to see
> >if they had anything new and wonderful, cost 10 bucks.
>
> Ten bucks!!! At least Maco lets you download theirs off their site.
Yes the MaCo Antenna wed site is truly a treasure for CB Antennas.
>
> >This antenna has
> >been advertised in old 1960's, 1970's, and 1980's CB Magazines.
> >
>
> Yeah, I have a bunck of old CB magazines fron the 70's. I realized that my very
> first base antenna was a Cushcraft CX-1000. It looks like a Maco V58 without
> the radials. It was advertised as having 3.75dB(?) gain. Probably a 1/2-wave.
> Worked well though.
Close to the AR-11
> >I have never seen any of the Devant Special, or Devant 1, 5/8 antennas.
>
> I have, on a former neighbor's house. Gotta say...it did look good. I'll likely
> never own one at that price though. Here's my 11-meter summer project.
>
> http://www.gopherlink.com/DeltaXray/hfantenn.htm
>
You will need to tell us all about it, how it works ect.
> >The Devant Special has a Top-Hat, that slightly loads the antenna
> >capactivly, allowing for less Impedance Matching circuitry, allowing for
> >less loss in the matching circuit. And is advertised a having 3.4 dB
> >gain as compared to the Devant 1, at 3.0 dB, that does not have a
> >Top-Hat assembly. No dB gain references are given, but are probably dBi
> >figures.
>
> Sounds good. :-)
>
> >These antennas use only 3 ground plane radials, and I have measured the
> >difference between 3 and 4 ground plane radials, as the 4 ground plane
> >radials, give the antenna a wider bandwidth.
>
> I'm only on chs. 36 through 40 now. I remember an old Archer (Radio Shack) CB
> base antenna that used a similar configuration.
Yes Radio Shack sold a Hy-Gain CLR-II, a almost 5/8 wavelength long
vertical, with 3 ground plane radials. This was the second attempt by
Hy-Gain to have a 5/8 antenna. The first 5/8 vertical from Hy-Gain was
called the "Golden Colinear" it had a single point mount that held the
vertical element, that broke, after a short period of time, I have never
seen one of these antennas, just the advertisments.
Of course next came the Penetrator 500, that was advertised from Hy-Gain
to take 1500 watts, since the CLR-II had a small impedance matching coil
on a small round circuit board, mounted in the base of the antenas lower
insulator, that would easly burn up with to much power.
> >They use what they call a "Induct-O-Match" Impedance Matching, parallel
> >then series inductor matching system, same as seen on the MaCo V5/8, the
> >Penetrator 500, and a few other antennas.
>
> Just a different shape, eh?
Yep!
> >The antenna is 19 feet tall, 228 inches tall. The Penetrator 500 is 257
> >3/8 inches tall. The performance is probably still very close, even
> >being shorter.
>
> I'd love to find an old AS M-800 Super Penetrator. That was a 5/8-wave. See, I
> do my homework...sometimes. I still have that M-400 NIB. :-)
Yeah ah lot guys would love to find a new Penetrator 500 new in the box.
I have a few of them. I have bought them off the internet and such. Some
where in great shape, and some didn't have one straight piece of tubing.
> >But its a light weight, none reinforced, tubing fitting into smaller
> >tubing type construction. I am sure it can be easily reinforced, not
> >like the foreign
> >type antennas, with there cheap vertical ribbed tubing, and odd ball
> >sizes.
>
> For $300, it shouldn't need to be reinforced.
For a vertical element that long, I think a few extra pieces of tubing
is not out of line.
> >Its probably a good antenna.
>
> For $300... (You get the idea.)
>
> >I have a I Max-2000 that a guy wants Ground Plane Radials installed onto
> >it.
>
> Can you do this? I don't think the matching system employed was meant to be
> used with radials. Copper just sent me an advertisement about their new ground
> plane attachment bracket for the IMAX-2000. Dunno, you tell me?
>
> >We will see.
Its a possibility that the impedance matching rings may only need a
slight tweak for the SWR adjust-O, don't know till I modify it and test
it.
> Lemme know.
>
> >Jay in the Mojave
>
> That's "Great" Mojave! Take it easy, Jay.
>
> 73 de Bert
> KC2HMN
Jay in the Great Mojave Desert.
Bert Craig
>>
>> http://www.gopherlink.com/DeltaXray/hfantenn.htm
>>
>
>You will need to tell us all about it, how it works ect.
You bet.
>I'd love to find an old AS M-800 Super Penetrator. That was a 5/8-wave. See,
>I
>> do my homework...sometimes. I still have that M-400 NIB. :-)
Oops, my bad. That's AS M-800 "Starduster II," not Super Penetrator. The AS
M-400 that I have is just the plain "Starduster." I sucked at homework.
>> >I have a I Max-2000 that a guy wants Ground Plane Radials installed onto
>> >it.
>>
>> Can you do this? I don't think the matching system employed was meant to be
>> used with radials. Copper just sent me an advertisement about their new
>ground
>> plane attachment bracket for the IMAX-2000. Dunno, you tell me?
>>
>> >We will see.
>
>Its a possibility that the impedance matching rings may only need a
>slight tweak for the SWR adjust-O, don't know till I modify it and test
>it.
Do you think it'll actually perform better? Take it easy, Jay.
73 de Bert
KC2HMN
Bill
ABS-1600. My neighbor has the A-99 with my 148 and his 148 I managed to hit
Australia and he didnt. Just an opinion. BTW the ABS is a 5/8th wave the
A-99 is a 1/2 wave. Bill
www.TimNebo.com
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ron...@dejazzd.com
It is 3 pieces just like the A-99