Wishing To Cause Interference to A Neighbours Hi-Fi With A CB
Linesman
and thoughtless neighbour who has bombarded me with the sound of a
mains Hi-Fi stereo Radio CD/Player at all times of the day and night.
I have politely asked the neighbour to turn down this stereo to a
level more
considerate to his neighbours , my requests have been met with a
slammed door.
This neighbour is living on the other side of the wall of a
semi-detached
house, I was wondering if I might be able to get advice from CB
people as to how I could cause best cause interference on this loud
and unmerciful hi-fi
by means of a CB Radio. Or would a goood walkie talke do the job?
If so which frequency? How could I transmitt a signal that would
bleed onto his hi-fi without using my voice (Just leave the mike keyed
?)
What would increase the power of my CB/Walkie Talkie to cause him the
maximum interference?
I am in the UK and would appreciate advice from CB enthuiasts?
Linesman
'Doc
Linesman,
Don't be an idiot.
'Doc
citizensband
"Linesman" <Witchita...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> During the last number of months I have been the victim of a selfish
> and thoughtless neighbour who has bombarded me with the sound of a
> mains Hi-Fi stereo Radio CD/Player at all times of the day and night.
> I have politely asked the neighbour to turn down this stereo to a
> level more
> considerate to his neighbours , my requests have been met with a
> slammed door.
>
Hi Linesman!
Well as you are a UK resident the same as me, you should be well aware of
the noise pollution regulations that are now in force. Ring up your local
council, and they will point you to the appropriate department. There are
serious penalties for pains in the arse such as your neighbour. The council
will measure the noise from his home, and if it's above the permitted level,
will serve an order on him. If he refuses to comply with the order, they
simply knock on his door, and seize his Hi-Fi equipment, and there is f*ck
all he can do about it.
Trying to screw up his Hi-Fi with a Cb is near impossible. Now his TV,
that's a
different matter, that's easy, however, you will screw everyone else's TV up
at the same time. I think you will find this will make YOU somewhat
unpopular with the neighbours.
IMHO your local council is the first stop.
HTH
tox
Mad Dog
you would be causing harmful and malicious interference to a FM broadcast
which would put you in harms way.
We can't tell you how to screw up his stereo,albeit it
is very simple.
You're on your own neighbor.
I believe a little trip behind the woodshed may be in order,ya know what i
mean Vern.................
tn...@mucks.net
wrote:
A BB into the woofer works pretty good.
Yeahrightman
RADIO and you'll tear 'em all to hell!
Of course you might get arrested too... but...............
On 1 Sep 2002 06:40:00 -0700, Witchita...@yahoo.com (Linesman)
was blabbling:
...During the last number of months I have been the victim of a
selfish
...and thoughtless neighbour who has bombarded me with the sound of a
...mains Hi-Fi stereo Radio CD/Player at all times of the day and
night.
...I have politely asked the neighbour to turn down this stereo to a
...level more
...considerate to his neighbours , my requests have been met with a
...slammed door.
...
...This neighbour is living on the other side of the wall of a
...semi-detached
...house, I was wondering if I might be able to get advice from CB
...people as to how I could cause best cause interference on this loud
...and unmerciful hi-fi
...by means of a CB Radio. Or would a goood walkie talke do the job?
...If so which frequency? How could I transmitt a signal that would
...bleed onto his hi-fi without using my voice (Just leave the mike
keyed
...?)
...What would increase the power of my CB/Walkie Talkie to cause him
the
...maximum interference?
...
...
...I am in the UK and would appreciate advice from CB enthuiasts?
...
...Linesman
Leland C. Scott
> and thoughtless neighbour who has bombarded me with the sound of a
> mains Hi-Fi stereo Radio CD/Player at all times of the day and
night.
Why don't you just inquire with your local police department. I'm sure
you guys in the UK have some sort of law that requires people to keep
things quite after a certain hour. It would be more fun to see your
neighbor getting busted for a noise ordinance violation, and only
requires a simple phone call on your part.
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
"I am a
bomb
technician
if you see me
running
try to keep up "
Jim Hampton
unreasonably loud music here in Rochester, NY. A 600 watt entertainment
center, a bunch of Bose speakers, and a 200 watt sub-woofer has solved my
problem. Oh, along with some John Phillips Sousa. It worked wonders.
Nothing like 15 or 20 minutes of LOUD march music to get the point across
(bass to shake the rafters helps as well).
73 from Rochester, NY
Jim
ps - wear earplugs while you do this - that kind of sound level damages the
ears.
Linesman <Witchita...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Dave or Debby
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WHY don't you have a CB radio? BUY a CB radio ! Don't you find your
self a Hippy-Crit giving CB advice, when yo don't even have one, OR do
you?!
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Sun, 01 Sep 2002 17:52:34 GMT, "Leland C. Scott"
<no-...@junk-mail.net> wrote:
>
>"Linesman" <Witchita...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7f23649d.02090...@posting.google.com...
>> During the last number of months I have been the victim of a selfish
>> and thoughtless neighbour who has bombarded me with the sound of a
>> mains Hi-Fi stereo Radio CD/Player at all times of the day and
>night.
>
>Why don't you just inquire with your local police department. I'm sure
>you guys in the UK have some sort of law that requires people to keep
>things quite after a certain hour. It would be more fun to see your
>neighbor getting busted for a noise ordinance violation, and only
>requires a simple phone call on your part.
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Dave or Debby
scatters dem HIPPIES like DDT, as SJ would say!
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JJ
Purchase one of "Professor's" class c linears and fire it up.
Jim Hampton
went to a nightclub. We knew the guy playing organ (Denny Gill, recently
deceased) who used to sub for Doug Duke (another Hammond organist). Those
guys could be absolutely hillarious. We were enjoying the evening when some
young gal came - uh - 'bouncing' in from the bar area. "we want to dance at
the bar" she exclaimed. Denny simply responded "I'd like a drink at the
organ". Denny then proceeded to do a good 15 minutes or more of CHURCH
music! The tears were streaming down our faces. He got his point across.
As far as Doug Duke goes, there was one time he wandered (perhaps 'stumbled'
might be a better term) into a nightclub and was dismayed that folks weren't
paying attention to the organist (Janie Poray). He walked up to the organ,
sat down next to Janie who was trying to say 'hello' to Doug, pulled out all
of the drawbars, put his foot all the way into the expression pedal, and
proceeded to play 'the old rugged cross'. Those two were something else.
Great folks, too.
73 from Rochester, NY
Jim
Dave or Debby <tr...@NOspamplanetc.com> wrote in message
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Arthur R. Howard
Maybe this person playing the music considers it a hobby.SOooooooo I
probably would suddenly develop an interest in High voltage electrical
discharge apparatus.I would get me a big ol neon sign transformer (about
20,000 volts) attach some straightened coat hangers to it and make a big
ol Jacobs ladder and put it up next to the wall and watch the sparks climb
and listen to his speakers pop as they are heavily modulated by the most
ragged sound/rf pulses known to man....Just a thought
Alan S.
news:un4mcmd...@corp.supernews.com:
> Linesman, not a good idea ... however, I have also been subject to
> unreasonably loud music here in Rochester, NY. A 600 watt
> entertainment center, a bunch of Bose speakers, and a 200 watt
> sub-woofer has solved my problem. Oh, along with some John Phillips
> Sousa. It worked wonders. Nothing like 15 or 20 minutes of LOUD march
> music to get the point across (bass to shake the rafters helps as
> well).
>
> 73 from Rochester, NY
> Jim
> ps - wear earplugs while you do this - that kind of sound level
> damages the ears.
>
I had a neighbor who would throw parties for ANY reason - like "My kid
got a "C" on his test! Woo Hoo!". They were incredibly loud most of the
time. Obnoxious? They had a (no kidding) two-story high inflatable
scooby-doo in the front yard full of little balls for the kids to jump
and play in. They even had a live band in the back yard once.
Early on, they had a pretty decent rack stereo in the living room. The
kids would crank this thing up when the parents were gone. I could not
get them to turn it down. At the time, I had a little 15 watt solid state
guitar amp. I would set it up in the window sill, crank it up and spew
noise to my hearts content. This got them to either shut their windows,
or turn it down. All was well. But then...
...they bought a bigger stereo. I just couldn't shut them down anymore. I
needed more power. I went down to Guitar Center and picked up a Fender
Hot Rod Deluxe (all tube). This sucker is LOUD. Oh my God. My wife claims
she can feel it in her chest standing in the street in front of the house
with all of the windows closed. Anyway, back to my neighbors. I pushed
the amp over to the window, and opened it. I hooked up every effects
pedal I owned. If the amp or the pedal had a knob, it got turned to the
right. My amp goes to "12" (Hee Hee, anybody remember Spinal Tap?). I
plugged in the SG, took the amp off standby and lo and behold you'd swear
a freight train rolled through the house. I played the most evil,
sinister crap I could muster out of six strings. It sounded absolutely
awful. It sure was loud, though. When I was finished, my neighbors had
turned the music down and shut their windows. I went over and told them
if they would like to try and get louder, I will promptly go down to
Guitar Center and buy a Marshall full stack (audible a couple of blocks
over) It's only money, and I've got alot more of it than they do. I never
had a problem again.
Alan S.
Alan S.
news:3D7280FD...@citlink.net:
> Everybodys approach here is entirely wrong....
> Maybe this person playing the music considers it a hobby.SOooooooo I
> probably would suddenly develop an interest in High voltage electrical
> discharge apparatus.I would get me a big ol neon sign transformer
> (about 20,000 volts) attach some straightened coat hangers to it and
> make a big ol Jacobs ladder and put it up next to the wall and watch
> the sparks climb and listen to his speakers pop as they are heavily
> modulated by the most ragged sound/rf pulses known to man....Just a
> thought
>
I was discussing loud neighbor problems with a friend of mine, who is a
police officer. The conversation went like this:
Cop: "Do you know where their fuse box is?"
Me: "Ya."
Cop: "Is it on the outside of the house?"
Me: "Yup."
Cop: "Do they have a lock on it?"
Me: "I don't think so."
Cop: "I don't see what the problem is..."
Alan S.
Dave or Debby
there and can't talk on the CB because dey is dead!
Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Jim Hampton" <aa...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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ye...@removecet.com
<sub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>...I went down to Guitar Center and picked up a Fender
>Hot Rod Deluxe (all tube). This sucker is LOUD.
Yep, hehe...
> Oh my God. My wife claims
>she can feel it in her chest standing in the street in front of the house
>with all of the windows closed. Anyway, back to my neighbors. I pushed
>the amp over to the window, and opened it. I hooked up every effects
>pedal I owned.
Got Pod?
Jim Hampton
ours, he'll be out of luck on that. It usually takes a few HOURS around
here for noise complaints, they often don't show for misparked cars
(including ones blocking your driveway). They show up only if a gun is
involved. So, it isn't only the FCC that is lax on enforcement.
73 from Rochester, NY
Jim
Leland C. Scott <no-...@junk-mail.net> wrote in message
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citizensband
"JJ" <radio...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Linesman wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am in the UK and would appreciate advice from CB enthuiasts?
> >
> > Linesman
>
> Purchase one of "Professor's" class c linears and fire it up.
ROTFL
tox
Scott (Unit 69)
"Arthur R. Howard" wrote:
>
> Everybodys approach here is entirely wrong....
> Maybe this person playing the music considers it a hobby.SOooooooo I
> probably would suddenly develop an interest in High voltage electrical
> discharge apparatus.I would get me a big ol neon sign transformer (about
> 20,000 volts) attach some straightened coat hangers to it and make a big
> ol Jacobs ladder and put it up next to the wall and watch the sparks climb
> and listen to his speakers pop as they are heavily modulated by the most
> ragged sound/rf pulses known to man....Just a thought
I was thinking more along the line of an indoor dipole placed on the wall
closest to the stereo. A legal radio should be able to induce enough into
the wires to interfere. Some repositioning of the dipole may help to
maximize this effect. Use AM or SSB. FM will be minimally effective.
Alan S.
news:3d728a2e...@news.cet.com:
Got Digitech. Got Dunlop. Got Dallas Arbiter. Ain't got Pod. :)
Actually, I rarely ever use my effects pedals. They muck up perfectly
pristine tube tone. I do use the wah alot, though.
This has got me to thinking...I have noticed that two similar amps - one
being tube and one being solid state - rated the same in terms of wattage
are widly different in volume. My 15 watt Squire practice amp was a
little louder than a trumpet. A 15 watt Mesa Boogie combo amp (tube) I
tried out was loud enough to stand the hairs on my arm on end. My
compnent stereo system is 30 watts per channel and pretty dang loud. My
Hot Rod Deluxe (tube) only has an additional 15 watts on the stereo and
is absolutely deafening. Apparently, there is more to volume than
wattage. At first, I figured it was a speaker thing. So while in a guitar
store I grabbed a Marshall cabinet and plugged it into two amplifers
identical in wattage - one tube, one with transistors. No matter which
two amplifiers I decided to compare, the tube one was always much louder.
Any idea why that is?
This gets me to thinking even more: To me, the difference in sound
between tube and solid state guitar amps is like night and day. The tube
amps sound much warmer. When driven to saturation, they REALLY shine.
Solid state amps have a harsher sound. This makes me wonder about tube
radio gear. I have a very discerning ear. Call me an audiophile. Will I
hear a difference? How about tube mics? I think they make vocals in
recordings sound fantastic. What if I tried one on a radio? Hmmmm....
Alan S.
Landshark
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I was going to say that was me, but the rest
can't be true.....................
Landshark
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Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to All
ye...@removecet.com
<sub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>This has got me to thinking...I have noticed that two similar amps - one
>being tube and one being solid state - rated the same in terms of wattage
>are widly different in volume. My 15 watt Squire practice amp was a
>little louder than a trumpet. A 15 watt Mesa Boogie combo amp (tube) I
>tried out was loud enough to stand the hairs on my arm on end. My
>compnent stereo system is 30 watts per channel and pretty dang loud. My
>Hot Rod Deluxe (tube) only has an additional 15 watts on the stereo and
>is absolutely deafening. Apparently, there is more to volume than
>wattage. At first, I figured it was a speaker thing. So while in a guitar
>store I grabbed a Marshall cabinet and plugged it into two amplifers
>identical in wattage - one tube, one with transistors. No matter which
>two amplifiers I decided to compare, the tube one was always much louder.
>Any idea why that is?
One of the biggest differences I have seen in audio is in speakers.
Low-wattage speakers sound louder than high-wattage speakers, despite
being the same impedance and driven from the same amp. Beats me why,
and I don't think it really matters as long as you like the sound. Too
many people are too concerned with 'wattage' -- kinda like keyclowns.
Hmmm... maybe the difference in volume is that the solid-state amps
are measured in "Bird watts"...?
>This gets me to thinking even more: To me, the difference in sound
>between tube and solid state guitar amps is like night and day. The tube
>amps sound much warmer. When driven to saturation, they REALLY shine.
>Solid state amps have a harsher sound. This makes me wonder about tube
>radio gear. I have a very discerning ear. Call me an audiophile. Will I
>hear a difference? How about tube mics? I think they make vocals in
>recordings sound fantastic. What if I tried one on a radio? Hmmmm....
I'm sure you have read the almost famous 'Tube Audio FAQ' by now. The
bottom line is that tubes only make a difference in a transducing
circuit (i.e, input and output). But you can't tell that to the
die-hard tube-junkie who has decided that he absolutely MUST have a
24-channel all-tube mixer.
As far as tube radio gear, the best thing about glass is that you
don't have to load the input; that is, as long as you don't draw grid
current. And as most audiophiles already know, a good triode is about
as linear of a device as you can get. Push-pull triodes are even
better. (BTW, the 'warm' sound comes from the 2nd harmonic typical of
triodes, or so that's the current theory.) The tetrode and pentode are
less linear than the triode and will cause more unwanted distortion.
The transistor is, at best, a crappy pentode. Feedback can help clean
up a transistor for audio freqs, but RF stages (tube or transistor)
are usually be open-ended amps because feedback loops at RF need to be
rephased every time the radio is tuned. (I should also mention that
whenever you hear of 'feedback' being used in an RF amp, it is usually
referring to 'degeneration' or 'degenerative feedback', which is not
really feedback but more like attenuation that can be used to put more
of the signal into the linear operationg region of the active device.)
Tubes and transistors have differences that make each more suitable
for any particular job. For audio it doesn't make much difference to
me just as long as it's clean. For RF input and output, and for audio
compression, I prefer tubes.
www.TimNebo.com
>Why don't you just inquire with your local police department. I'm sure
>you guys in the UK have some sort of law that requires people to keep
>things quite after a certain hour. It would be more fun to see your
>neighbor getting busted for a noise ordinance violation, and only
>requires a simple phone call on your part.
>
>
>--
>Leland C. Scott
>KC8LDO
>
>Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
Tim Nebo
Landshark
> >Why don't you just inquire with your local police department. I'm sure
> >you guys in the UK have some sort of law that requires people to keep
> >things quite after a certain hour. It would be more fun to see your
> >neighbor getting busted for a noise ordinance violation, and only
> >requires a simple phone call on your part.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Leland C. Scott
> >KC8LDO
> >
> >Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
>
I did not see the original, but going to the
police first is not the answer. You should talk
to them and let them know what they are doing
to disturb you. Also talk to all the other neighbors
and see if they too are having the same problem, then
maybe you all can get together and approach them with
the problem. But the last resort should be the police, it
just makes for a lousy living situation with your neighbor.
Landshark
--
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SOONER OR LATER IT ALL GETS REAL,
WALK ON, WALK ON.
Neil Young
--
Try sending your complaints to these concerning
Keyclownslamma (Doug):
Consumer Affairs
WorldCom
1200 South Hayes Street, 11th fl
Arlington, VA 22202
800-695-4405
Leland C. Scott
"Dave or Debby" <tr...@NOspamplanetc.com> wrote in message
> LeLand:
> WHY don't you have a CB radio?
Don't need one.
> BUY a CB radio !
If you'll pay for it I'll take a nice Cobra AM/SSB rig. 8-))
> Don't you find your
> self a Hippy-Crit giving CB advice,
Antennas and radio waves work the same on the Ham bands as they do on
any other band. Besides it seems very few on this news group can't
even figure out the correct answer to the coax length question much
less anything else more technical.
> when yo don't even have one, OR do you?!
Used to have one twenty years or so ago. Gave it up because of the
idiots on the bands.
Leland C. Scott
"Jim Hampton" <aa...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Leland, unless that guy has a police department FAR more responsive
then
> ours, he'll be out of luck on that.
Until he checks he will never know right? The few minutes it takes to
make the call is far quicker than screwing around trying to make
something to deliberately interfere with his neighbor's radio, not to
mention it will not be confined to just that single neighbor either.
Leland C. Scott
"www.TimNebo.com" <tim...@aol.com187> wrote in message
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> more fun? your a born loser and a snitch. what a fcking wiesel.
I hope you feel that way when you report those who pass you bad checks
and rip off the goods in your family owned business Tim. It don't look
the same when you're on the receiving end does it?
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
"I am a
Leland C. Scott
> Linesman, not a good idea ... however, I have also been subject to
> unreasonably loud music here in Rochester, NY. A 600 watt
entertainment
> center, a bunch of Bose speakers, and a 200 watt sub-woofer has
solved my
> problem. Oh, along with some John Phillips Sousa. It worked
wonders.
> Nothing like 15 or 20 minutes of LOUD march music to get the point
across
> (bass to shake the rafters helps as well).
That sort of nonsense got one of my neighbors kicked out of their
apartment along with the original trouble maker a few years back. Dumb
advice.
www.TimNebo.com
it out. we would much rather get the payment then "have fun" calling the police
like little snitch bitches do. i see now that my analogies of you being the kid
in class that the teacher leaves behind to write down the names of those
talking was very true. you like to tell on people and have others do something
about what you cant because your totally impotent and powerless. i bet thats a
sad feeling for a grown man to have.
>
>I hope you feel that way when you report those who pass you bad checks
>and rip off the goods in your family owned business Tim. It don't look
>the same when you're on the receiving end does it?
>
>
>--
>Leland C. Scott
>KC8LDO
>
>Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
>
>"I am a
> bomb
> technician
>if you see me
>running
> try to keep up "
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Tim Nebo
Leland C. Scott
> we've always contacted the person who wrote the check first and
tried to work
> it out.
So when they skip town, and you can't contact them, you just give up
right? Sooner or later you're going to call the local PD in,
especially when the person is knowingly writing bad checks, and you
got stuck with one or more of them. Face it Tim the world is full of
people who could care less about your rights, and making good on a bad
check, just as you thumb your nose at FCC regulations. You don't like
it much when the shoe gets jammed on your foot, and you're stuck
holding the bag. I would like to see your face when the local
prosecutor tells you they don't have the time to chase people making a
career out of passing bad checks, they have bigger fish to fry, and
besides they didn't "hurt" anybody did they? Keep that in mind.
Scott (Unit 69)
"Leland C. Scott" wrote:
>
> "Dave or Debby" wrote in message
> > LeLand:
> > WHY don't you have a CB radio?
>
> Don't need one.
Are you a troll like JJ, who never even uses the CB band,
or do you use your ham equipment on the CB band?
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"Scott (Unit 69)" <scott_...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Leland C. Scott" wrote:
> >
> > "Dave or Debby" wrote in message
>
> > > LeLand:
> > > WHY don't you have a CB radio?
> >
> > Don't need one.
>
>
> Are you a troll like JJ, who never even uses the CB band,
> or do you use your ham equipment on the CB band?
May I interject Scottie, I don't think Leland could modify his UHF/VHF radio
to get down to CB Band unless there is some secret CB mod web page somewhere
and really what is it any of your concern if they don't use Cb's this is a
discussion forum correct? Thats what the illegals in here always say there
is nothing going on here except talk so thats what they are doing talking go
cry about something else.
Brainbuster
> news:Ctsc9.341146$m91.13...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
> >
> > you guys in the UK have some sort of law that requires people to keep
> > things quite after a certain hour. It would be more fun to see your
> > neighbor getting busted for a noise ordinance violation, and only
> > requires a simple phone call on your part.
> >
"Jim Hampton" <aa...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Leland, unless that guy has a police department FAR more responsive then
> ours, he'll be out of luck on that. It usually takes a few HOURS around
> here for noise complaints, they often don't show for misparked cars
> (including ones blocking your driveway). They show up only if a gun is
> involved. So, it isn't only the FCC that is lax on enforcement.
>
Hi Jim.
As Tox said, the local council deal with "noise polution".
All you have to do here is contact the local council with the details
and they will bring out the measuring equipment. People have had
their complete stereo systems taken away.
Councils have ways of dealing with "bad neighbours". I remember a story
of one woman who was sent to prison just for feeding the birds. A
neighbour complained about the birds constantly crapping on their washing
and the mess made by the excessive amount of "bird feed" that was in the
womans garden.
Regards,
Peter.
Keyclown Busters
Snitching on criminals is what the Ant-Boys do. Don't whine. It is unbecoming.
tim...@aol.com187 (www.TimNebo.com) wrote in message news:<20020902113226...@mb-mk.aol.com>...
Keyclown Busters
It is a GOOD feeling to know that you have the law onyour side. Only
those who have done criminal acts and have either been caught or fear
being caught have your attitude. If you were not criminally minded,
and were the least bit mature, and were not a drug user, you could
comprehend.
tim...@aol.com187 (www.TimNebo.com) wrote in message news:<20020902163857...@mb-fx.aol.com>...
Twistedhed
CB
don't have the time to chase people making a career out of passing bad
checks, they have bigger fish to fry, and besides they didn't "hurt"
anybody did they? Keep that in mind.
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO<<
And I would love to see the priceless expression on your face when
you're in pre-stroke mode again from your B/P getting all out of whack
when I constantly educate you on such matters that you know nothing of.
It has been pointed out again and again that what you describe is a
monetary and tangible loss suffered by a business. Enough merchandise
taken and it's a felony.
No correlation to cb no matter how much bullshit you stutter and attempt
to slobber into a nonmatter.
www.TimNebo.com
>right? Sooner or later you're going to call the local PD in,
>especially when the person is knowingly writing bad checks, and you
>got stuck with one or more of them.
if the person has knowingly and willingly refused to make the check good after
we have contacted that person then the matter is usually forgotten if its
written for anything less than 200 bucks simply because it would cost more of
our time and money to go to the police and follow up with court procedures such
as being a witness and all of that then it would be to just add there name to
the list of customers whos service is now refused and write it off as a bad
experience. what we do not do is get excited and over joyed each time were
given a hot check just because we get to turn somebody into the police as you
suggest. that would still make us some really big losers who just enjoy
snitching on people and thats totally lame. guess thats why you enjoy it so
much since your the lamest person i know of.
>Face it Tim the world is full of
>people who could care less about your rights,
you are correct and that world includes our government and its acting bodies
such as the FCC.
>I would like to see your face when the local
>prosecutor tells you they don't have the time to chase people making a
>career out of passing bad checks, they have bigger fish to fry, and
>besides they didn't "hurt" anybody did they?
since i live in the real world and always have i wouldnt need the prosecuter to
tell me what common sense alreayd does. it is you guys living in La La Land
that expect the fcc to incenerate each and every freebander there is whos faces
turn sour when you find it wont ever happen.
>Keep that in mind.
sure no problem. have a nice day you loser type snitch
>--
>Leland C. Scott
>KC8LDO
>
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
has one on 555 as i type
>May I interject Scottie, I don't think Leland could modify his UHF/VHF radio
>to get down to CB Band unless there is some secret CB mod web page somewhere
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
liked rung of society, lelnad seems to be denying it.
>Dweebo:
>Snitching on criminals is what the Ant-Boys do. Don't whine. It is
>unbecoming.
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
by
>It is a GOOD feeling to know that you have the law onyour side.
Tim Nebo
Scott (Unit 69)
"www.TimNebo.com" wrote:
>
> he has a 847 which is very easily but on the cb band. my friend down the raod
> has one on 555 as i type
The only ham equipment I have is the old version of a 2950. It
stays in the closet 364 days a year.
Scott (Unit 69)
Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com wrote:
>
> "Scott (Unit 69)" <scott_...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
> >>The only ham equipment I have is the old version of a 2950. It
> > stays in the closet 364 days a year.
> >
> You might be missing something! ;)
The FCC monitoring station in Laurel is less then 25 miles away.
I may be crazy, but it keeps me from going nuts!
I may get more radioactive as the skip cycle recedes.
Flank Steak
<Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Scott (Unit 69)" <scott_...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'm sure you know,the HF gear is cleaner than most CB's.
And Illegal to use by Chicken Banders
--
"Sometimes being right means pissing people off."
--Colin Powell
DryIce
<Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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> >>And Illegal to use by Chicken Banders
> >
> So you're another hammie,who doen't use CB ?
And where did you get this question? not from my response? Randys watchin
.. it is spelled don't
Landshark
"Scott (Unit 69)" <scott_...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message
You only use it on New Years Day?
Landshark
--
Try this, it made George famous:
http://www.fishdot.org/furby/index.html
JJ
Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com wrote:
>
> You picked up chicken band from muenzler,and jj.
>
> Please try not to be such a friggin puppet!
>
The terms "chicken band" and "children's band" for cb have been
around a lot longer than this newsgroup.
Scott (Unit 69)
Landshark wrote:
>
> "Scott (Unit 69)" <scott_...@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > The only ham equipment I have is the old version of a 2950. It
> > stays in the closet 364 days a year.
>
> You only use it on New Years Day?
Special occasion radio.
> --
> Try this, it made George famous:
> http://www.fishdot.org/furby/index.html
It might stop his sexual rambles!
Name of the day
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Ya think?
Landshark
<Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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> What is this,Tim not top posting? <g>
>
> --
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> Driver carries no cash: He's married!
>
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Yeah but Mopar, I like how Leland compares
fraud & deceit of a merchant, to disturbance of a
neighbor. Oh well, guess it should be expected from
someone that said illegal cb'rs should be shot in the head
like terrorist.
Landshark
DryIce
"Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote in message
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>
> Yeah but Mopar, I like how Leland compares
> fraud & deceit of a merchant, to disturbance of a
> neighbor. Oh well, guess it should be expected from
> someone that said illegal cb'rs should be shot in the head
> like terrorist.
>
> Landshark
I say all transexuals such as yourself should be shot in the head
Leland C. Scott
> >So when they skip town, and you can't contact them, you just give
up
> >right? Sooner or later you're going to call the local PD in,
> >especially when the person is knowingly writing bad checks, and you
> >got stuck with one or more of them.
>
> if the person has knowingly and willingly refused to make the check
good after
> we have contacted that person then the matter is usually forgotten
if its
> written for anything less than 200 bucks simply because it would
cost more of
> our time and money to go to the police and follow up with court
procedures such
> as being a witness and all of that then it would be to just add
there name to
> the list of customers whos service is now refused and write it off
as a bad
> experience.
So they use more than one name, using several different accounts, now
you're on the hook for more than 200 bucks. Sounds to me like your
business is "Crook Friendly". With any luck Tim every "paper hanger"
in town will read about it in this news group, and will stop in to
give you the business. Plus you what me to believe that at a pay rate
close to minimun wage you can't have a store clerk like you parked on
a bench seat in the cort room to recover what amouts to 4 times or
more your hourly wages for an 8 hour day does not pay? Get real.
> what we do not do is get excited and over joyed each time were
> given a hot check just because we get to turn somebody into the
police as you
> suggest. that would still make us some really big losers who just
enjoy
> snitching on people and thats totally lame. guess thats why you
enjoy it so
> much since your the lamest person i know of.
I don't like being taken atvantage of nor ripped of by some idiot who
thinks his crime is too petty to bother with.
>
> since i live in the real world and always have i wouldnt need the
prosecuter to
> tell me what common sense alreayd does.
You live in a world of your own dreams Tim. The only thing that has
come out of this sub-thread with you is the fact that you're going to
squirm around, and try to come up with some lame logic, to explain why
you wouldn't call the police for getting burned by a criminal passing
bad checks. Because if you did admit to calling the police than you
would be exposed as the hypocrite you really are. Thus by running to
the law that you so despise on one hand, and willfully ignore on the
other when it's your criminal activity being discussed, your hypocrisy
becomes indefensible. You would be reminded endlessly by various
parties in this news group, and they in turn would enjoy reminding you
to no end.
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
Leland C. Scott
"Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote in message
news:YVgd9.82$hZ5.8...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>
> fraud & deceit of a merchant, to disturbance of a
> neighbor. Oh well, guess it should be expected from
> someone that said illegal cb'rs should be shot in the head
> like terrorist.
You think the rest of them would still have the same idea that the FCC
is just a joke when it came around to Part 95 violations? China does
it with drug dealers, and they don't have anywhere nearly the problem
we do in this country. It has it points. In those middle east
countries, where they have strict Muslim laws, you get caught stealing
they slice off one of your hands. You may think my comment is funny,
however they do extreme things elsewhere for real.
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
Saw this on a Tee-shirt:
Bill Nelson
>we've always contacted the person who wrote the check first and tried to work
>it out. we would much rather get the payment then "have fun" calling the police
>like little snitch bitches do. i see now that my analogies of you being the kid
>in class that the teacher leaves behind to write down the names of those
>talking was very true. you like to tell on people and have others do something
>about what you cant because your totally impotent and powerless. i bet thats a
>sad feeling for a grown man to have.
Uh, if you bothered to try to comprehend what was originally written, you
would discover that the person had tried to work things out with the
neighbor - and got the door slammed in his face. If that were to happen
to me, I would not make any further attempts. I would be afraid that any
further attempt might escalate into a physical assault by that person.
Contacting the local counsel would be the proper next step.
By the way - if the person is playing CDs, records or tapes, then a
CB rig (or other RF source) is unlikely to interfere.
--
Bill Nelson (bi...@peak.org)
Leland C. Scott
<Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
news:20020906172943.497$q...@newsreader.com...
> Nothing is stopping you from moving to a third world country,if you
think
> things are better there. <g>
You forget that one of the goals of the 9/11 terrorists is to bring
their third world way of life here. Given the way our own government
is reacting, the so called "TIPS" program, freer wire tapping by the
local PD, FBI, etc. Dave-and-Debbie's nonsense ramblings about secret
police etc. aren't so funny any more.
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO
ARRL Member
NCI Member
--
"We learn in time that it is not subjects which
are controversial, but the manner in which
we communicate about them and the
elements of personal blame we
add to them in anger."
www.TimNebo.com
>in town will read about it in this news group, and will stop in to
>give you the business.
leland, i'm confused. what do you mean with any luck they will stop by and give
us the bussiness? are you implying you wish harm and hate against me or my
family for no other reason than disagreeing with you here on this newsgroup
over purely radio related matters??? your a very mean spirited person and its
eay to see your hatefull ways extnd way beyond those feelings you have towards
cb'ers
>Plus you what me to believe that at a pay rate
>close to minimun wage you can't have a store clerk like you parked on
>a bench seat in the cort room to recover what amouts to 4 times or
>more your hourly wages for an 8 hour day does not pay?
i go from being part of family bussiness all the way down to being a minumum
wage recieving store clerk? you seem confused. perhaps you need more of
twistedheds guidance in this matter? he usually steers you in the correct
direction anyways. but your insinuation that it is truely worth one of the
employees time which goes way beyond a hourly pay rate in a small company to
sit 8 hours just in order to testify against somebody writing a check for less
than 200 bucks is rediculous simply for the fact the criminal and civil aspects
of this case would be totally different matters requiring two seperate court
dates. the civil case is the only one actually important enough to even warrant
some concern for but its been a proven fact time and time again that the same
people passing hot checks are the same ones that will ignore a judges order so
really its all in vain for somebody like myself but on the other hand somebody
like you who enjoys inflicting hate, pain, and physical losses on those who you
dont like it might just be a one day holiday. it would be your only real chance
in life "to get the bad guy" and make you feel like a hero.
>You live in a world of your own dreams Tim. The only thing that has
>come out of this sub-thread with you is the fact that you're going to
>squirm around, and try to come up with some lame logic, to explain why
>you wouldn't call the police for getting burned by a criminal passing
>bad checks.
leland, these are things you just wish were true. instead i'm telling you how
it is done and has been done for the last 23 years of our small familiy
bussiness (well theres actually three but thats no matter here). dont be so
angry that were not all like you. not all of us get a hard on everytime we get
to report another person.
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
to get into
>By the way - if the person is playing CDs, records or tapes, then a
>CB rig (or other RF source) is unlikely to interfere.
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
to leland not the original post
>
>Uh, if you bothered to try to comprehend what was originally written, you
>would discover that the person had tried to work things out with the
>neighbor - and got the door slammed in his face. If that were to happen
Tim Nebo
Bill Nelson
> perhaps you should follow your own advice bill and realize this was a response
> to leland not the original post
So what, Tim. I believe the response was to illustrate what was done when
there was a problem (bad check or rfi). If not, then I misunderstood, and
my response was not valid.
--
Bill Nelson (bi...@peak.org)
www.TimNebo.com
instance
>
>So what, Tim. I believe the response was to illustrate what was done when
>there was a problem (bad check or rfi). If not, then I misunderstood, and
>my response was not valid.
>
Tim Nebo
Landshark
"Leland C. Scott" <no-...@junk-mail.net> wrote in message
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Actually Leland I didn't think it was funny at all.
I pity someone that has the logic that you are displaying.
Just can't wait when you flick the cigarette onto the
sidewalk and get thrown in jail for 15 years, same logic
right? Or get caught for the second time and put to death.
Yes, that is great logic, if you want to move to China,
Arab countries, have at it, but don't try to justify your
crazy logic here.
Landshark
--
"BAD CITIZENS HAVE MORE FUN BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE FREE"
ye...@removecet.com
<S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
<snip>
> Actually Leland I didn't think it was funny at all.
>I pity someone that has the logic that you are displaying.
>Just can't wait when you flick the cigarette onto the
>sidewalk and get thrown in jail for 15 years,
You haven't visited Spokane recently.
> same logic
>right? Or get caught for the second time and put to death.
> Yes, that is great logic, if you want to move to China,
>Arab countries, have at it, but don't try to justify your
>crazy logic here.
I don't think it's crazy at all. Harsh punishment is considered a
deterrent. Of course even the most severe punishments won't deter the
more desperate or determined criminals, but it does cut down on the
casual abuse. All in all, I found cities in the Middle East pretty
safe, even for an American. Certainly safer than Pittsburgh, Chicago
or LA.
But nowdays, even capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent because
many criminals hold such little regard for life. Pretty scary.
Landshark
<ye...@REMOVEcet.com> wrote in message news:3d7c0cd7...@news.cet.com...
> In <d5Se9.778$jY1.34...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, "Landshark"
> <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Actually Leland I didn't think it was funny at all.
> >I pity someone that has the logic that you are displaying.
> >Just can't wait when you flick the cigarette onto the
> >sidewalk and get thrown in jail for 15 years,
>
> You haven't visited Spokane recently.
>
No I haven't, but what you were charged with
was bogus too.
> > same logic
> >right? Or get caught for the second time and put to death.
> > Yes, that is great logic, if you want to move to China,
> >Arab countries, have at it, but don't try to justify your
> >crazy logic here.
>
> I don't think it's crazy at all. Harsh punishment is considered a
> deterrent.
Yeah but think about what Leland said "shoot illegal
Cb'rs in the head, just like the terrorist" For operating
an illegal cb, he was classifying it the same as what
happened on 9-11-2001, that's extremism.
>Of course even the most severe punishments won't deter the
> more desperate or determined criminals, but it does cut down on the
> casual abuse. All in all, I found cities in the Middle East pretty
> safe, even for an American.
Well I have never been to the middle east, but my parents
have extensively. They would agree with you to a point,
I remember they loved Egypt, Israel, United Arab Emirates.
Morocco was another story, while beautiful in most ways, they said there was
an un-easy feeling. They always felt as the
infidels, no matter who they were dealing with. Also they
were warned not to venture anywhere away from the main
venues, something they already knew.
> Certainly safer than Pittsburgh, Chicago
> or LA.
>
Also I found Amsterdam to be more safe than the cites you mentioned, they do
all the things your not supposed to do
in the middle-east.
> But nowdays, even capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent because
> many criminals hold such little regard for life. Pretty scary.
>
Agreed, but a lot has to do with how they are probably
brought up. Look at the two kids that beat their father
to death, pretty sad.
Landshark
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Dave Hall
Maybe not, but a 2 meter rig might. I used to cause my CD player to
eject disks as soon as I ran more than about 100 watts on 2 meters. Of
course most of the reason for that was that I was running a poorly
decoupled antenna at the time (A discone). Once I put up a "real"
antenna, the problem stopped.
Dave
"Sandbagger"
>
> --
> Bill Nelson (bi...@peak.org)
ye...@removecet.com
<S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
>
><ye...@REMOVEcet.com> wrote in message news:3d7c0cd7...@news.cet.com...
>> In <d5Se9.778$jY1.34...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, "Landshark"
>> <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > Actually Leland I didn't think it was funny at all.
>> >I pity someone that has the logic that you are displaying.
>> >Just can't wait when you flick the cigarette onto the
>> >sidewalk and get thrown in jail for 15 years,
>>
>> You haven't visited Spokane recently.
>>
>
>
>No I haven't, but what you were charged with
>was bogus too.
The original intent of the law is justified. SMC's variation on that
law takes the potential for police harassment to a whole new level.
>> > same logic
>> >right? Or get caught for the second time and put to death.
>> > Yes, that is great logic, if you want to move to China,
>> >Arab countries, have at it, but don't try to justify your
>> >crazy logic here.
>>
>> I don't think it's crazy at all. Harsh punishment is considered a
>> deterrent.
>
>Yeah but think about what Leland said "shoot illegal
>Cb'rs in the head, just like the terrorist" For operating
>an illegal cb, he was classifying it the same as what
>happened on 9-11-2001, that's extremism.
How much stuff in the newsgroup do you take literally?
>>Of course even the most severe punishments won't deter the
>> more desperate or determined criminals, but it does cut down on the
>> casual abuse. All in all, I found cities in the Middle East pretty
>> safe, even for an American.
>
>Well I have never been to the middle east, but my parents
>have extensively. They would agree with you to a point,
>I remember they loved Egypt, Israel, United Arab Emirates.
>Morocco was another story, while beautiful in most ways, they said there was
>an un-easy feeling. They always felt as the
>infidels, no matter who they were dealing with. Also they
>were warned not to venture anywhere away from the main
>venues, something they already knew.
Well yeah, everywhere you go people hate Americans, and you are
nothing but a target unless you are in a civilized and populated area.
The only exception I found was in Norway -- there you are not an
American, but a person.
>> Certainly safer than Pittsburgh, Chicago
>> or LA.
>>
>
>Also I found Amsterdam to be more safe than the cites you mentioned, they do
>all the things your not supposed to do
>in the middle-east.
Different cultures.
>> But nowdays, even capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent because
>> many criminals hold such little regard for life. Pretty scary.
>>
>
>Agreed, but a lot has to do with how they are probably
>brought up. Look at the two kids that beat their father
>to death, pretty sad.
Oh man, all you got to do is listen to the news each night. Like
tonight, they had a report from Ohio about one teenager bashing the
skull of another with a hammer over a dispute about a video game.
Where are the parents? and why don't they teach these kids some
values? Christ Almighty, I could rant about this for hours, but it
wouldn't accomplish a thing. Besides, it's the wrong newsgroup.
Landshark
<ye...@REMOVEcet.com> wrote in message news:3d7cec13...@news.cet.com...
>> >Yeah but think about what Leland said "shoot illegal
> >Cb'rs in the head, just like the terrorist" For operating
> >an illegal cb, he was classifying it the same as what
> >happened on 9-11-2001, that's extremism.
>
> How much stuff in the newsgroup do you take literally?
>
Not much, but you know sometimes just by what they are
saying, you got to wonder if they really mean it. In Leland's
case, I believe he's talking the truth on how he feels, that's
the scary thing.
> >>Of course even the most severe punishments won't deter the
> >> more desperate or determined criminals, but it does cut down on the
> >> casual abuse. All in all, I found cities in the Middle East pretty
> >> safe, even for an American.
> >
> >Well I have never been to the middle east, but my parents
> >have extensively. They would agree with you to a point,
> >I remember they loved Egypt, Israel, United Arab Emirates.
> >Morocco was another story, while beautiful in most ways, they said there
was
> >an un-easy feeling. They always felt as the
> >infidels, no matter who they were dealing with. Also they
> >were warned not to venture anywhere away from the main
> >venues, something they already knew.
>
> Well yeah, everywhere you go people hate Americans, and you are
> nothing but a target unless you are in a civilized and populated area.
> The only exception I found was in Norway -- there you are not an
> American, but a person.
>
True, and I also felt comfortable in Germany and Sweden too.
> >> Certainly safer than Pittsburgh, Chicago
> >> or LA.
> >>
> >
> >Also I found Amsterdam to be more safe than the cites you mentioned, they
do
> >all the things your not supposed to do
> >in the middle-east.
>
> Different cultures.
>
As with most places
> >> But nowdays, even capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent because
> >> many criminals hold such little regard for life. Pretty scary.
> >>
> >
> >Agreed, but a lot has to do with how they are probably
> >brought up. Look at the two kids that beat their father
> >to death, pretty sad.
>
> Oh man, all you got to do is listen to the news each night. Like
> tonight, they had a report from Ohio about one teenager bashing the
> skull of another with a hammer over a dispute about a video game.
> Where are the parents? and why don't they teach these kids some
> values? Christ Almighty, I could rant about this for hours, but it
> wouldn't accomplish a thing. Besides, it's the wrong newsgroup.
>
I'm not sure, this might be the perfect newsgroup for it.
As for that kid, yeah I saw it too on CNN, damn shame.
Landshark
--
There are no stupid questions, just stupid
people.
Mr. Garrison
Dave Hall
> >> But nowdays, even capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent because
> >> many criminals hold such little regard for life. Pretty scary.
> >>
> >
> >Agreed, but a lot has to do with how they are probably
> >brought up. Look at the two kids that beat their father
> >to death, pretty sad.
>
> Oh man, all you got to do is listen to the news each night. Like
> tonight, they had a report from Ohio about one teenager bashing the
> skull of another with a hammer over a dispute about a video game.
> Where are the parents? and why don't they teach these kids some
> values? Christ Almighty, I could rant about this for hours, but it
> wouldn't accomplish a thing. Besides, it's the wrong newsgroup.
It's all related. Moral values are things that used to be drummed into
people's heads from a very young age. Today, with the societal tide
turning away from traditional family, community and religious
organizations, the values that used to be taught are falling through the
cracks. Today, people are much more self-centered, and care only about
their own "rights", and not how to fit in and be a productive part of a
family and community.
>From blatent disregard of human life, to the off-handed disregard for
the rules of radio. It's all bread from the same place. Until we, as a
society, fully understand this and the reasons why, we will be unable to
correct it, and things will only get worse.
Dave
"Sandbagger"
Twistedhed
>It's all related. Moral values are things that used to be drummed into
Hall talking about morals again, but I am happy he has begun to apply
them to his own posts. Can the angry, insult-filled posts of Hall's past
be a done deal? Can this hammie possibly have learned about effective
communication and diplomacy from dumb cbers? He definitely recognized
his past behavior as unbecoming and has put forth a conscious effort at
removing personal insults and emotions-gone-wild from his posts.
Congratulations, Dave. Maybe I can even get you removed from some of the
killfiles....
ye...@removecet.com
<S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
>
><ye...@REMOVEcet.com> wrote in message news:3d7cec13...@news.cet.com...
>>> >Yeah but think about what Leland said "shoot illegal
>> >Cb'rs in the head, just like the terrorist" For operating
>> >an illegal cb, he was classifying it the same as what
>> >happened on 9-11-2001, that's extremism.
>>
>> How much stuff in the newsgroup do you take literally?
>>
>
>Not much, but you know sometimes just by what they are
>saying, you got to wonder if they really mean it. In Leland's
>case, I believe he's talking the truth on how he feels, that's
>the scary thing.
You mean you really think that he want's to shoot every illegal
operator in the head? Perhaps you want to believe it because it is
something which supports that which you do not -- people that oppose
illegal operation. IOW, you believe it because you don't like anyone
criticizing illegal behavior.
>> >>Of course even the most severe punishments won't deter the
>> >> more desperate or determined criminals, but it does cut down on the
>> >> casual abuse. All in all, I found cities in the Middle East pretty
>> >> safe, even for an American.
>> >
>> >Well I have never been to the middle east, but my parents
>> >have extensively. They would agree with you to a point,
>> >I remember they loved Egypt, Israel, United Arab Emirates.
>> >Morocco was another story, while beautiful in most ways, they said there
>was
>> >an un-easy feeling. They always felt as the
>> >infidels, no matter who they were dealing with. Also they
>> >were warned not to venture anywhere away from the main
>> >venues, something they already knew.
>>
>> Well yeah, everywhere you go people hate Americans, and you are
>> nothing but a target unless you are in a civilized and populated area.
>> The only exception I found was in Norway -- there you are not an
>> American, but a person.
>>
>
>True, and I also felt comfortable in Germany and Sweden too.
Never been there. From what I hear, Sweden is similar to Norway. I
have reservations about Germany, although I would like to visit there
someday regardless.
OT: Eva Ehmke from Hamburg: If you are back from China and find this
in a newsgroup search, you can email me at this email address.
Twistedhed
>You mean you really think that he want's to shoot every illegal
operator in the head? <<
Ask him. He said "freebanders".
>Perhaps you want to believe it because <<
(snip) Maybe because he SAID it?
Nice try at obfuscation of KC9LDO's improper and ineffective
communication skills.
>it is something which supports that which you do not --<<
Correct....VIOLENCE.
> IOW, you believe it because you don't like anyone criticizing illegal
behavior. <<
Actually, Lelnad KC8LDO began talking that violent trash when HIS
behavior was criticized. You shouldn't lie about things, Frank.
Landshark
<ye...@REMOVEcet.com> wrote in message news:3d7f2ed5...@news.cet.com...
> In <7ddf9.3372> >>> >Yeah but think about what Leland said "shoot illegal
> >> >Cb'rs in the head, just like the terrorist" For operating
> >> >an illegal cb, he was classifying it the same as what
> >> >happened on 9-11-2001, that's extremism.
> >>
> >> How much stuff in the newsgroup do you take literally?
> >>
> >
> >Not much, but you know sometimes just by what they are
> >saying, you got to wonder if they really mean it. In Leland's
> >case, I believe he's talking the truth on how he feels, that's
> >the scary thing.
>
> You mean you really think that he want's to shoot every illegal
> operator in the head? Perhaps you want to believe it because it is
> something which supports that which you do not -- people that oppose
> illegal operation. IOW, you believe it because you don't like anyone
> criticizing illegal behavior.
>
I don't know, do you think he wants too? Ask those kids
that died at Columbine, when know one believed that those guys would
actually do what they said either. As for my not
agreeing with his beliefs of being pro legal cb, please.
Within days after 9/11 he was comparing illegal cb'ers to
terrorists and said that they should be shot in the head like
terrorist. If someone pro illegal said that, I would be just as
upset with that type of thinking being shown at the time.
> >> >>Of course even the most severe punishments won't deter the
> >> >> more desperate or determined criminals, but it does cut down on the
> >> >> casual abuse. All in all, I found cities in the Middle East pretty
> >> >> safe, even for an American.
> >> >
> >> >Well I have never been to the middle east, but my parents
> >> >have extensively. They would agree with you to a point,
> >> >I remember they loved Egypt, Israel, United Arab Emirates.
> >> >Morocco was another story, while beautiful in most ways, they said
there
> >was
> >> >an un-easy feeling. They always felt as the
> >> >infidels, no matter who they were dealing with. Also they
> >> >were warned not to venture anywhere away from the main
> >> >venues, something they already knew.
> >>
> >> Well yeah, everywhere you go people hate Americans, and you are
> >> nothing but a target unless you are in a civilized and populated area.
> >> The only exception I found was in Norway -- there you are not an
> >> American, but a person.
> >>
> >
> >True, and I also felt comfortable in Germany and Sweden too.
>
> Never been there. From what I hear, Sweden is similar to Norway. I
> have reservations about Germany, although I would like to visit there
> someday regardless.
I spent a week in Germany and a week in Switzerland, I'll tell
you Switzerland is an unfriendly place, beautiful, but not
friendly at all. Germany though was fun and the people were
very friendly towards Americans (at least that's the way
I felt). I was in Sweden for 2 weeks visiting my sister, there
too everyone seem to be very friendly towards Americans.