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THE KAPTAIN

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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Please post


Waveguide

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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i think we all need to remember they do not operate a normal type of mom and
pop business and well ill leave the rest up to the imagination. No doubt the
product is a good one.

Ripsy <ri...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> well they are deffinetly smok'n units. i have had the m-40, 80, 200, and
the
> 400..
> but they are alittle hard to get a hold of, and it usually takes a while.
they
> lak in pr work but they are deffinetly good boxes and priced right too.
looking
> to upgrade to a m-600 now..
> my 2 cents.


-=PEAKABOO=-

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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Nice amps, nice looking case, if you plan on sidebanding be aware that they
are generally a class c unit.
--

-=PEAKABOO=-
Page two of pics is up, with more to come.
check it out.
http://www.geocities.com/peakaboo_tx/Crackerjack-Peakaboo.html?942812721190

Ţ®özĺ©625™

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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I Dont know what kind of opinions you are looking for but I wouldn't buy
anything other then Dave made!

Ripsy

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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Ţ®özĺ©625™

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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I have owned m80's m200, 400, m400, m400se, m800, 16pill, and my 32 pill in
a few days. I have played with other boxes such as Texas star, shooting
star, palamar, boomer, and a few other pieces of crap and none of them
compare to my Dave mades.
Im sure there will be plenty of people that will say different but I know
what amps I like and Dave Made is it!

It does take time to get them and it does get frustrating if you dont hear
from them but remember they are very busy guys because there boxes actually
sell, not sit on the shelf!!!!

RHOOLIGAN2

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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<<i think we all need to remember they do not operate a normal type of mom and
pop business and well ill leave the rest up to the imagination.>>

I don't have an imagination. Spell it out.

William Warlock

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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I'd go for the X-Force. As good or better than a Dave box, better customer
service, warranty, more options available, and you don't usually have to wait
to get one.


Wm.

The artist formerly known as "Cheez"

BoyGonBad

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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Not william he didnt ask what you thought of x farce he asked about davemade,no
wait means- no busy

Hochburger

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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I have many amplifiers. The Davemades are my favorite.

Bo Bo
Bravo Oscar, Bravo Oscar


Ţ®özĺ©625™

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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That is exactly what IM saying! And if they are busy and still filling
orders they are throwing rush jobs out the door is that what you want?


>no wait means- no busy

Waveguide

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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Ok "U R A ASSHOLE" How is my spelling

RHOOLIGAN2 <rhool...@aol.com> wrote in message

Toll Free

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> ,no wait means- no busy

Not necessarily...

It can also mean that the distribution or build channels are bigger, have
more people behind them, or just haul ass to keep up.


Waveguide

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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Is it true 123 the is no longer affiliated with X-Force this is the latest
news i have heard, since 123 was the main man behind x force getting there
start he brought davemades technology, customers, suppliers etc with him.
I am assuming he is not needed now ? perhaps #12 is now on the payroll.


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William Warlock

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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>>I'd go for the X-Force. As good or better than a Dave box, better customer
service, warranty, more options available, and you don't usually have to wait
to get one.<<

>From: boyg...@aol.com (BoyGonBad) Not william he didnt ask what you thought
of x farce he asked about davemade,<

I am aware of what he asked, and I offered my opinion of something I consider
to be as good or better

> no wait means- no busy <

I disagree. No wait means production is where it should be.

>From: "Þ®özå©625™" That is exactly what IM saying! And if they are busy
and still filling orders they are throwing rush jobs out the door is that what
you want?<

I disagree with this also. Just because guys work hard to keep up with demand,
doesn't mean they're "throwing rush jobs out the door". I have had over two
dozen units pass through my hands, and not one defect.

William Warlock

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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>From: "Waveguide" wave...@aol.com
>Is it true 123 the is no longer affiliated with X-Force this is the latest
>news i have heard,

No, it is not true.

> since 123 was the main man behind x force getting there
>start he brought davemades technology, customers, suppliers etc with him.

I can't speak for customers or suppliers, but the technology has been around
for decades. If you'd like to claim he spent several years learning, and used
his education and ambition to start his own company building a product to his
standards, then that would be an accurate statement.

>I am assuming he is not needed now ? perhaps #12 is now on the payroll.<

123 is an integral part of X-Force, and always will be. "#12" as you call him,
is not nor has ever been a part of X-Force for monetary gain.

Sounds like a lot of coveting, rumor, and gossip going on around here.

Waveguide

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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William Warlock <warl...@aol.com> wrote in message

> >Is it true 123 the is no longer affiliated with X-Force this is the
latest
> >news i have heard,
>
> No, it is not true.
=============================================================
Can you back this up with any proof, my sources "which are pretty reliable"
say he has split and is now helping build the bulldog line of amps in
another part of the country.

> I can't speak for customers or suppliers, but the technology has been
around
> for decades. If you'd like to claim he spent several years learning, and
used
> his education and ambition to start his own company building a product to
his
> standards, then that would be an accurate statement.

============================================================
You are right you cannot speak about the suppliers and customers because
you don't have any idea of what exactly went on, and yes davemades
technology has been around for some time but it wasnt duplicated by any
other builder, certain ferrite mixes, tuning procedures, combining
tecniques are used by dave and no one elses even mirrored his and none
performed as well as his until 123 who spent "only 6/8 months working for
him" not years as you claim, left with his new found info. You should find
my statements to be very accurate I was only an arms length away from him on
the work bench and also a good friend of his .

>
> 123 is an integral part of X-Force, and always will be. "#12" as you call
him,
> is not nor has ever been a part of X-Force for monetary gain.

===============================================================
I agree 123 "was" an intergal part if it wasnt for him leaving dave there
would be no x force, they wouldnt have had this knowledge. I guess we can
say the same about him and X force now. As far as #12, he wanted to help
the local x force guys, and make changes to the amp since they really didnt
know how to improve on a already great product and as we all know "#12" is a
very brilliant man.

>
> Sounds like a lot of coveting, rumor, and gossip going on around here.

============================================================
It is only a rumor if you don't know the real story. It is only gossip if
you chose not to beleive it.

BRAND SPANKIN' NEW

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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In article <19991124075734...@ng-fo1.aol.com>,

boyg...@aol.com (BoyGonBad) wrote:
> Not william he didnt ask what you thought of x farce he asked about
davemade,no
> wait means- no busy
>
GOOD POINT
I WOULD ASLO LIKE TO SAY THAT A DAVEMADE UNIT IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE
BEST AMPS ON THE MARKET FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. SOME PEOPLE DO HAVE
TO WAIT AND AS IT WAS SAID THEY ARE NOT A MOM/POP SHOP. THEY DO HAVE
MANY ORDERS. OF COURSE THERE ARE SOME GUYS ON THIS NEWSGROUP WHO CAN
GET AN AMP FROM DAVE IN A DAY OR TWO (AS WAS SAID PREVIOUSLY), THOSE
GUYS ARE PROBABLY GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN INTO DAVE AMPS WAY BEFORE THE
ADVENT OF THIS INTERNET CB AMP STUFF, HENCE THEY GET PREFERENTIAL
TREATMENT. EVEN WAITING FOR THIS PRODUCT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST THING TO
DO IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

BRAND SPANKIN' NEW

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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In article <Dr0%3.1408$CM.6...@news2.voicenet.com>,

"Waveguide" <wave...@aol.com> wrote:
> Is it true 123 the is no longer affiliated with X-Force this is the
latest
> news i have heard, since 123 was the main man behind x force getting

there
> start he brought davemades technology, customers, suppliers etc
with him.
> I am assuming he is not needed now ? perhaps #12 is now on the
payroll.

IS THAT A FACT?
DAMN! WELL I GUESS THERE WILL BE ANOTHER XFORCE TYPE DAVEMADE COPY AMP
COMING FORWARD SOON? WHERE DID 123 GO? WHEREEVER HE WENT I GUESS
ANOTHER DAVEMADE CLONE WILL POP UP.

Xforce151

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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how cares do we have to go though stuff again.how cares about dave it not his
technology anyway he got from someone else to.for his ferrite mix you can call
the ferrite company and they can tell you what mix to use.for the combining
system motorola design keep it up concrete ever time you do this busn.gets
beter

Waveguide

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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Carl you couldnt even spell ferrite before dan came to you , If this was
the case my man how come you didnt have this technology before Dan gave it
to you ,you should have been making these amps instead of buying them from
dave the whole time. Hahah He got it from someone else, you can go around an
tell people this but ask dan who sat there and watched him design his amps.
He is a engineer unlike you he has forgotten more about electronics than you
probably will ever know. You know you didnt get anything from Motorola you
can't even read the book nor understand it what it says. You got it from
Dave whether you like to admit it or not. So fuck You and the horse you rode
in on. you screwed dan just like you screwed dave. in the end what goes
around comes around.
While your at it prove to me whats in the Motorola Book Please list the
pages, which version Motorola book you are getting this info from. So that i
can find this info on. How come no other amp builders thought of reading
this book before. Just you guys. Put up if what you say is true. Come up
with something of your own like an antenna system thats not a copy of BB's
or anyone elses. you should change your name to XEROX you guys can copy
anything . I won't even say anything about the regulators. Hope you choke to
death on a turkey leg.


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Xforce151

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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looks like someone is jealous just because dave is going down don't get mad
waaaaaaaa

Waveguide

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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hahah i am sure dave is doing very well, he has his own mind and doesnt need
someone to help him unlike you .. .. haha like i thought you cannot come up
with any proof to your claims... Come up with something of your own ill give
you the credit you deserve, until then keep asking the other guys how to it
. watch them turkey bones

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Waveguide

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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btw I am not mad in the least my side hurt from laughing at you.

prozac 625

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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If X-Fore offered me a 64 pill for my Dave made 32 pill I wouldn't take it.
In the long run I know all the copy cats will get what they disserve
(nothing) and Dave Made will always be in a class all buy it's self.

Dave is already putting out new products that are his own disign like
digital bird meters, and stuff. Can the guys at X- force have me one of them
that does all the same functions as daves? If so how fast can I get one I
would like to compair them.

Toll Free

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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> >I am assuming he is not needed now ? perhaps #12 is now on the payroll.<
>
> 123 is an integral part of X-Force, and always will be. "#12" as you call
him,
> is not nor has ever been a part of X-Force for monetary gain.
>

And the funny thing, since the DaveMade boys keep bringing Dennis into it,
is that Dennis offered his help in the improvements to DaveMade before, and
they declined.

I find this one of the funnier things going!


Toll Free


Toll Free

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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Can you back this up with any proof, my sources "which are pretty reliable"
say he has split and is now helping build the bulldog line of amps in
another part of the country.


>>>I can. Talked to the people this week about going to Memphis.

>>>123 is still their.

>>>123 has also been helping Sludgehammer build those amps for quite some
time, although Sludgehammer has been building them for longer than Danny has
been doing X-Force.

You are right you cannot speak about the suppliers and customers because
you don't have any idea of what exactly went on, and yes davemades
technology has been around for some time but it wasnt duplicated by any
other builder, certain ferrite mixes, tuning procedures, combining
tecniques are used by dave and no one elses even mirrored his and none
performed as well as his until 123 who spent "only 6/8 months working for
him" not years as you claim, left with his new found info. You should find
my statements to be very accurate I was only an arms length away from him on
the work bench and also a good friend of his .

>>>So?


I agree 123 "was" an intergal part if it wasnt for him leaving dave there
would be no x force, they wouldnt have had this knowledge. I guess we can
say the same about him and X force now. As far as #12, he wanted to help
the local x force guys, and make changes to the amp since they really didnt
know how to improve on a already great product and as we all know "#12" is a
very brilliant man.


>>>Dennis also offered his help to Dave in the past, and was either ignored
or refused.


>>>However, one of the things that DaveMade bagged on X-Force for was them
having Dennis help in the beginning.


Toll Free

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> Dave is already putting out new products that are his own disign like
> digital bird meters,

I highly doubt that Dave is working for Bird now.


and stuff. Can the guys at X- force have me one of them
> that does all the same functions as daves?


Don't know, but I DO know that Bird has been making them for years.

Does that make Dave a copycat?

William Warlock

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Nov 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/26/99
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>William Warlock <warl...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >Is it true 123 the is no longer affiliated with X-Force this is the
>latest
>> >news i have heard,
>>
>> No, it is not true.
>=============================================================
>Can you back this up with any proof, my sources "which are pretty reliable"
>say he has split and is now helping build the bulldog line of amps in
>another part of the country.
>

Yes Dennis, I can. I have talked with Dan and these private matters don't need
to be splattered on the internet, but what I said is true, he is still X-FORCE.

>> I can't speak for customers or suppliers, but the technology has been
>around


>> for decades. If you'd like to claim he spent several years learning, and
>used
>> his education and ambition to start his own company building a product to
>his
>> standards, then that would be an accurate statement.
>============================================================

>You are right you cannot speak about the suppliers and customers because
>you don't have any idea of what exactly went on, and yes davemades
>technology has been around for some time but it wasnt duplicated by any
>other builder, certain ferrite mixes, tuning procedures, combining
>tecniques are used by dave and no one elses even mirrored his and none
>performed as well as his until 123 who spent "only 6/8 months working for
>him" not years as you claim, left with his new found info. You should find
>my statements to be very accurate I was only an arms length away from him on
>the work bench and also a good friend of his .
>

Unlike you Dennis, I'm not putting Dave down, nor you. I think it's great when
someone takes a basic design and makes it better. That's what Dave did, and
that's what Dan did. It's sometimes called OTJT, on the job training. You
study, you learn, and if you have ambition, you go on your own and improve.

>> 123 is an integral part of X-Force, and always will be. "#12" as you call
>him,
>> is not nor has ever been a part of X-Force for monetary gain.

>===============================================================


>I agree 123 "was" an intergal part

Dan still "IS" X-Force

> if it wasnt for him leaving dave there
>would be no x force, they wouldnt have had this knowledge. I guess we can
>say the same about him and X force now.

If it wasn't for Dave taking basic linear amplifier design theory and expanding
and improving upon that, there would be no Dave either.

> As far as #12, he wanted to help
>the local x force guys, and make changes to the amp since they really didnt
>know how to improve on a already great product and as we all know "#12" is a
>very brilliant man.

#12 offered to help. Do you think Dave was born with the information he
posesses now? Come on Dennis, give this a rest.

BoyGonBad

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Nov 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/26/99
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>Yes Dennis, I can. I have talked with Dan >and these private matters don't
need
>to be splattered on the internet, but what I >said is true, he is still
X-FORCE.
============================
Well I asked a question about a rumor I heard and I stand by what was told to
me by a reliable source as private as these matters may be to some others have
no problem about talking about dave and any part of his business why is this
any different? >

>
>Unlike you Dennis, I'm not putting Dave down, nor you. I think it's great
>when
>someone takes a basic design and makes it better. That's what Dave did, and
>that's what Dan did.
===============================
Unlike me?, I am not putting dave down either, I didn't put anyone down but
asked a simple question if 123 has left x force. but the owner of x force
quickly replied to and he didnt deny it in the least. Your comparison of the 2
arent even close Dave did not go to wok for someone and leave with there design
and confidental info. Dan has not improved anything in my opinion, I have seen
some of the latest secret battle boxes he builds a good clean amp ,as far as
the class b bias it is not a big deal nor a new revelation. Please don't put
Dan in daves electronic class they are not even close now I like danny but he
is no dave when it comes to rf and electronics.


>Dan still "IS" X-Force
i have heard otherwise


>#12 offered to help. Do you think Dave was born with the information he
>posesses now? Come on Dennis, give this >a rest.

============================
No i know he wasnt born with it he learned on his own accord by trial and
error. He used to modify Texas stars and TNT, his amp looks nothing like these
do. But if you ask xforce 151 anyone can pick up a motorola book and make a amp
that compares to xforce or daves its all in there, he said it was. I just want
to know why it took 123 to go to daves and leave before anyone thought of this
idea.I asked a simple question what happened to 123 and now a few x force guys
come out and make a big deal about it. I don't work for dave so why is it a
problem to ask these questions? Double Standards?

William Warlock

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>From: boyg...@aol.com (BoyGonBad)/Waveguide/Getsum

>Well I asked a question about a rumor I heard and I stand by what was told to
>me by a reliable source

Warlok wrote:
>>Dan still "IS" X-Force

BGB wrote:
>i have heard otherwise

I've answered your question. You may have "reliable" sources, but in
conversation with the man in question, you have heard wrong.


Warlok wrote:
>>Unlike you Dennis, I'm not putting Dave down, nor you. I think it's great
>>when
>>someone takes a basic design and makes it better. That's what Dave did, and
>>that's what Dan did.

BGB wrote:
>Unlike me?, I am not putting dave down either, I didn't put anyone down but
>asked a simple question

You've been dogging Dan since he left. He's not in here dogging Dave for
stealing Motorolla's design, Texas Star, TNT

BGB wrote:>Dave did not go to wok for someone and leave with there design


>and confidental info. Dan has not improved anything in my opinion

I don't know who Dave worked for. As I said, he wasn't born with an electronic
degree. You don't just dive in and start changing/innovating a design without
some knowledge from education

BGB wrote:>Please don't put


>Dan in daves electronic class they are not even close now I like danny but he
>is no dave when it comes to rf and electronics.

I didn't put Dan in that class, but that doesn't mean he couldn't be. Dan is
young still, give him time. Those of us whom love radio and rf, will forge
ahead looking for something new, something better, and how to get it done. Dave
is not the Lone Ranger
nor Bill Gates. I respect Dave for what he's done, and Dan (123), Toll
Free,Sean, Dennis(12), Carl (EFJ), John (SledgeHammer), BlueGill, 2Watt, Muddy,
and on and on.
Your hangup with "copying" is monotenous <sp>, Dave copied, Armadillo copied,
cookie copied, hell, nearly everyone copied something and then personalized or
improved or both.
Gees Dennis, put it behind you already.


>I asked a simple question what happened to 123 and now a few x force guys
>come out and make a big deal about it. I don't work for dave so why is it a
>problem to ask these questions?

I thought you did work for/with Dave, hmm, guess I missed on that one. That
must make you the Dave cheerleader. I'm not an "X-Force" guy, I just like the
people that build them, how they operate, how they care about every customer no
matter how large or small. They don't have the "bad attitude" you get from alot
of Dave dealers or distributors.

prozac 625

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Hey toll I dont know who Dave works for but I saw something with my own two
eyes that cant be found in the bird cat. or any other cat. It is all printed
circuitry and from what I hear it is daves work. Is it bull shit? dont know
but I saw for the first time from them.
You program which slugs you are using it reads forward & reflected power and
SWR.

I really dont know what the deal is with these things because they are not
advertised so I might even be pissing them off by talking about it I don't
know.


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Toll Free

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Like I said... Bird has had that for quite some time.

Toll Free

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Waveguide

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Nov 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/26/99
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Toll your jumping in with 1/2 the facts, #12 wanted to do warranty work
for dave nothing else, So why would they need him when they could fix
anything themselves and not have to pay him.


Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

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> > >I am assuming he is not needed now ? perhaps #12 is now on the
payroll.<
> >

> > 123 is an integral part of X-Force, and always will be. "#12" as you
call
> him,
> > is not nor has ever been a part of X-Force for monetary gain.
> >
>
>
>

Waveguide

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It is a similiar concept to birds but has no resemblence whatso ever other
than them both being digital and being able to read a 30 or 100 micro amp
slug. Birds sells them for $1200.00, his sells for under $300. He also has
been making computer controlled digital dashboards, tach,oil,volts etc for
the local drag racing scene. This is where this idea came from I should know
I suggested the digital watt meter idea after seeing the digital dash

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> Like I said... Bird has had that for quite some time.
>
>
>
> Toll Free
>
> prozac 625 <proz...@bayshorenetwork.com> wrote in message
> news:uux%3.4718$lY5.1...@news.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > Hey toll I dont know who Dave works for but I saw something with my own
> two
> > eyes that cant be found in the bird cat. or any other cat. It is all
> printed
> > circuitry and from what I hear it is daves work. Is it bull shit? dont
> know
> > but I saw for the first time from them.
> > You program which slugs you are using it reads forward & reflected power
> and
> > SWR.
> >
> > I really dont know what the deal is with these things because they are
not
> > advertised so I might even be pissing them off by talking about it I
don't
> > know.
> >
> >

> > "Toll Free" <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

Waveguide

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No he is not working for Bird now But he has design some work for coaxial
dynamics. He has made his own digital reading watt meter that can be used
with bird or coaxials line section. It is computer controlled whereas he
wrote his own software for it . It is the same as owning a digital volt
meter Fluke makes them so does that mean that the ones radio shack sells are
the same inside.

prozac 625

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Nov 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/26/99
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Yeah well toll knows all so why argue?

"Waveguide" <wave...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> It is a similiar concept to birds but has no resemblence whatso ever other
> than them both being digital and being able to read a 30 or 100 micro amp
> slug. Birds sells them for $1200.00, his sells for under $300. He also
has
> been making computer controlled digital dashboards, tach,oil,volts etc
for
> the local drag racing scene. This is where this idea came from I should
know
> I suggested the digital watt meter idea after seeing the digital dash
>

> Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

> news:wvy%3.164$y3.8726@insync...
> > Like I said... Bird has had that for quite some time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Toll Free
> >
> > prozac 625 <proz...@bayshorenetwork.com> wrote in message
> > news:uux%3.4718$lY5.1...@news.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > > Hey toll I dont know who Dave works for but I saw something with my
own
> > two
> > > eyes that cant be found in the bird cat. or any other cat. It is all
> > printed
> > > circuitry and from what I hear it is daves work. Is it bull shit? dont
> > know
> > > but I saw for the first time from them.
> > > You program which slugs you are using it reads forward & reflected
power
> > and
> > > SWR.
> > >
> > > I really dont know what the deal is with these things because they are
> not
> > > advertised so I might even be pissing them off by talking about it I
> don't
> > > know.
> > >
> > >

Waveguide

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William Warlock <warl...@aol.com> wrote in message>
> BGB wrote:
> >i have heard otherwise
>
> I've answered your question. You may have "reliable" sources, but in
> conversation with the man in question, you have heard wrong.
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So you are saying you have spoke to him personally.

>
>
> Warlok wrote:
> >>Unlike you Dennis, I'm not putting Dave down, nor you. I think it's
great
> >>when
> >>someone takes a basic design and makes it better. That's what Dave did,
and
> >>that's what Dan did.
>
>

> You've been dogging Dan since he left. He's not in here dogging Dave for
> stealing Motorolla's design, Texas Star, TNT

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--------------------------
Again I ask you or anyone on this NG to show me where dave has copied or
used Motorolas design. Prove what you say to be true Don't talk me another
asshole prove it. The fact remains you cannot. Show me where his amps
resemble TX star at all or tnt you are using words that I said about him
modding tx star and tnt to his own specs It is a proven fact x force used
daves design wrap for wrap, cap for cap, Why would you argue they did not.
This guy builds plasma generators, Broadcast transmitters I guess he copys
them to haha. what a joke

> >and confidental info. Dan has not improved anything in my opinion
>
> I don't know who Dave worked for. As I said, he wasn't born with an
electronic
> degree. You don't just dive in and start changing/innovating a design
without

> some knowledge from education.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
You are right you don't know he is basically self taught and has no
electronic education other than a street degree

>
> I didn't put Dan in that class.
--------------------------------------------------------
As much as I like dan he is not, nor am I and I don't claim to be, I don't
claim to have bettered his amps either but I could build one as good as dan
can.

,


> Your hangup with "copying" is monotenous <sp>, Dave copied, Armadillo
copied,
> cookie copied, hell, nearly everyone copied something and then
personalized or
> improved or both.

===========================================================


> Gees Dennis, put it behind you already.

======================================================
I have put it behind me you have repied to my posts regarding this My point
was I asked what happened to dan because i have heard some rumors he was not
with x force any longer.


> I thought you did work for/with Dave, hmm, guess I missed on that one.
That
> must make you the Dave cheerleader. I'm not an "X-Force" guy,

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------------------------------
I have at one point but no longer. I am the head Dave cheerleader and gladly
admit to it . Your not an x force guy but you sound like there cheerleader
too.

> I just like the
> people that build them, how they operate, how they care about every
customer no
> matter how large or small. They don't have the "bad attitude" you get from
alot
> of Dave dealers or distributors.

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--------------------
I like one of the guys that builds them too Dan, I don't like how they
operate they will fuck you in a minute if it is for money or to sell there
amp. So I guess you can blame dave for his dealers attitudes he may sell
them amps but attitudes are not his specialty

prozac 625

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Buy a Dave made there the best key all day and never rest.
give me a D give me an A give me a V Ahh shit you get the point. Dave I'll
where a skirt if it helps out sell X-force

love you

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Foxie and Skullcracka were students of Dominator which Dominator was a
student of Sneaky P. And John Boy Of Memphis,tenn.The Next Greatest
Box Builder of All Time Was Slave Boy From Akron,Ohio. Davemade is just
a college educated guy that uses computer designs to build box but we
all know that Davemade boxes are not the same like they use to be he
used to be the King of all a YEAR Ago now Foxie is taking
over.Skullcracka has the best skiptalking box on the market.REMEMBER
JUST AN OPINION!

dirty south


Captain ColeSlaw

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Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message news:oVo%3.151

> >>>I can. Talked to the people this week about going to Memphis.
>
> >>>123 is still their.
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-----------------------------
Someone is lying to someone then.

>
> >>>123 has also been helping Sludgehammer build those amps for quite some
> time, although Sludgehammer has been building them for longer than Danny
has
> been doing X-Force.

============================================================
We shall see if a new line of amps doesnt come out perhaps even at memphis.

Mo Watts

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BrandNew keep an eye out on the action at Memphis and see for yourself if
something new pops Up!


BRAND SPANKIN' NEW <bran...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > IS THAT A FACT?

-=PEAKABOO=-

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Foxy isn't taking over, man I have never seen a dominator do real big watts,
and the foxy from what I can tell is a clone, and what is the difference
between a skip box and a shootout box, this I have got to know.

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Toll Free

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Not exactly...

> Foxie and Skullcracka were students of Dominator which Dominator was a
> student of Sneaky P. And John Boy Of Memphis,tenn.

However, the Dominator boxes never did anything new. He changed the name,
but the design stayed the same.


The Next Greatest
> Box Builder of All Time Was Slave Boy From Akron,Ohio.


Dominator makes DC boxes. Slaveboy is an AC boy.

Big difference.

Toll Free

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Yeah well toll knows all so why argue?


I have forgotten more than your 60G education taught you.


For shits and giggles, why don't you bother telling us what the BGP4 routing
protocol is, and how to impliment redundancy through it, and how to keep a
firewall system running utilizing BGP4 and multiple internet routers?

That is an elementary question for someone who is as good with computers as
you are.

Toll Free

>
> "Waveguide" <wave...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:ccz%3.1532$CM.7...@news2.voicenet.com...
> > It is a similiar concept to birds but has no resemblence whatso ever
other
> > than them both being digital and being able to read a 30 or 100 micro
amp
> > slug. Birds sells them for $1200.00, his sells for under $300. He also
> has
> > been making computer controlled digital dashboards, tach,oil,volts etc
> for
> > the local drag racing scene. This is where this idea came from I should
> know
> > I suggested the digital watt meter idea after seeing the digital dash
> >

> > Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

> > news:wvy%3.164$y3.8726@insync...
> > > Like I said... Bird has had that for quite some time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Toll Free
> > >
> > > prozac 625 <proz...@bayshorenetwork.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uux%3.4718$lY5.1...@news.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > > > Hey toll I dont know who Dave works for but I saw something with my
> own
> > > two
> > > > eyes that cant be found in the bird cat. or any other cat. It is all
> > > printed
> > > > circuitry and from what I hear it is daves work. Is it bull shit?
dont
> > > know
> > > > but I saw for the first time from them.
> > > > You program which slugs you are using it reads forward & reflected
> power
> > > and
> > > > SWR.
> > > >
> > > > I really dont know what the deal is with these things because they
are
> > not
> > > > advertised so I might even be pissing them off by talking about it I
> > don't
> > > > know.
> > > >
> > > >

> > > > "Toll Free" <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

Toll Free

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No, actually, I am jumping in with what you and Dennis talked about on this
newsgroup a year ago.

I am not here to fight, though... But when Dennis offered his help, it was
declined.


Toll Free


Waveguide <wave...@aol.com> wrote in message

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> Toll your jumping in with 1/2 the facts, #12 wanted to do warranty work
> for dave nothing else, So why would they need him when they could fix
> anything themselves and not have to pay him.
>
>

> Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

Toll Free

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Great.

Dave got a PIC controller programmed to make a digital reference voltmeter.


Toll Free


Waveguide <wave...@aol.com> wrote in message

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> No he is not working for Bird now But he has design some work for coaxial
> dynamics. He has made his own digital reading watt meter that can be used
> with bird or coaxials line section. It is computer controlled whereas he
> wrote his own software for it . It is the same as owning a digital volt
> meter Fluke makes them so does that mean that the ones radio shack sells
are
> the same inside.
>

> Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

Captain ColeSlaw

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He wanted to do warranty work Toll that was my understanding, I was not
downing him in my post just pointing out if danny wasnt there who would be
the tech for improving would they ask 12 ?

Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message
news:WeH%3.350$y3.9549@insync...

> No, actually, I am jumping in with what you and Dennis talked about on
this
> newsgroup a year ago.
>
> I am not here to fight, though... But when Dennis offered his help, it
was
> declined.
>
>
>
>
> Toll Free
>
>
>
>
> Waveguide <wave...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:62z%3.1527$CM.7...@news2.voicenet.com...
> > Toll your jumping in with 1/2 the facts, #12 wanted to do warranty
work
> > for dave nothing else, So why would they need him when they could fix
> > anything themselves and not have to pay him.
> >
> >
> > Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

Toll Free

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> It is a similiar concept to birds but has no resemblence whatso ever other
> than them both being digital and being able to read a 30 or 100 micro amp
> slug.

Yes, we all know that their are so many ways to make a digital voltmeter,
right?

Geeze... The point was to let Prozac know that he doesn't need to be on the
ballsack.

Dave is not a God. Dave did not "invent" the idea of the digital meter. He
may have a good design on amplifiers, and have a decent wattmeter.


Birds sells them for $1200.00, his sells for under $300. He also has
> been making computer controlled digital dashboards, tach,oil,volts etc
for
> the local drag racing scene.

So does VDO... Does this mean that he copied them? After all, they are all
just digital voltmeters, and the sensors send a controlled voltage back to
the indicator. The indicator is programmed to respond to the change in
voltage in different ways (speedometer and tach via rate of pulse, the
others via change in voltage).

Dave in no way invented this. Although he may have made it cheaper.

The point is, Dave in no way came up with something new.... Neither did
X-Force. Neither did Bulldog.. Neither did Texas Star (with the Skeleton).

Hell, I have a Palomar TX150 that will run at 18 volts... Nicely.

It was built before Dave was around.

Does that mean that he copied it? No, it doesn't.... What it does mean is
that he found another means to an end. Any of the 70s class C palomars and
markos, etc.... will run at higher than normal voltages.

If Danny and company copied the design... Who gives a flying fuck? It was
bettered (as the Dave boys point out, time after time, by #12), but not
after he offered the same help to the Dave crew.

Before X-Force was on the "hit list", "Shit list" or whatever else, it was
No-Name.

Everyone has to have a bitch about something.

The consumer bitches about DaveMade taking so long to get a product to them.

The DaveMade people bitch about people "stealing" their design.

See the justice?


So everyone should just quit bitching. If you want a DaveMade amplifier,
buy one and wait. If you want an X-Force, buy one of them and get it in a
few days.

Concrete Man out here taking up bandwith rehashing shit that Danny did is
just getting plain old. Just like the rest of the arguments about this
subject. If you want to know what happened to Danny, call him up.


>This is where this idea came from I should know

Great. You will also remember when you guys where testing the Viagra
antenna system on your truck, I told you how to build a remote field
strength meter. You said that it was the same as Daves (in theory).

Guess I copied his? Although one was never sold to me?


I am not trying to be a dick, Dennis, I am just tired of the wasted bandwith
and the same old shit being dredged up every couple weeks.


> I suggested the digital watt meter idea after seeing the digital dash
>

> Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

> news:wvy%3.164$y3.8726@insync...
> > Like I said... Bird has had that for quite some time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Toll Free
> >
> > prozac 625 <proz...@bayshorenetwork.com> wrote in message
> > news:uux%3.4718$lY5.1...@news.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > > Hey toll I dont know who Dave works for but I saw something with my
own
> > two
> > > eyes that cant be found in the bird cat. or any other cat. It is all
> > printed
> > > circuitry and from what I hear it is daves work. Is it bull shit? dont
> > know
> > > but I saw for the first time from them.
> > > You program which slugs you are using it reads forward & reflected
power
> > and
> > > SWR.
> > >
> > > I really dont know what the deal is with these things because they are
> not
> > > advertised so I might even be pissing them off by talking about it I
> don't
> > > know.
> > >
> > >

> > > "Toll Free" <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

Captain ColeSlaw

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Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message news:enH%3.351>

> > It is a similiar concept to birds but has no resemblence whatso ever
other
> > than them both being digital and being able to read a 30 or 100 micro
amp
> > slug.
>
> Yes, we all know that their are so many ways to make a digital voltmeter,
> right?
>
>
> Dave is not a God. Dave did not "invent" the idea of the digital meter.
He
> may have a good design on amplifiers, and have a decent wattmeter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
Never said he was. Never said he invented the idea of the digital meter,
just that he is designing his own digital meters. See its the same with
kenwood,Yaseu,Icom they all make amatuer radios that will basically do the
same thing but each has engineers that design there own version based on
what they feel will work. Some work better than others but Did any of them
invent the radio? Or its idea.

>
>
>
> So does VDO... Does this mean that he copied them? After all, they are
all
> just digital voltmeters, and the sensors send a controlled voltage back to
> the indicator. The indicator is programmed to respond to the change in
> voltage in different ways (speedometer and tach via rate of pulse, the
> others via change in voltage).
>
> Dave in no way invented this. Although he may have made it cheaper.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
Never ever heard me say he invented the idea of a digital dash, other than
he designed his own digital dash, and the accompanying electronics

>
> The point is, Dave in no way came up with something new....
Neither did
> X-Force. Neither did Bulldog.. Neither did Texas Star (with the
Skeleton).
>
> Hell, I have a Palomar TX150 that will run at 18 volts... Nicely.
>
> It was built before Dave was around.

-----------------------------------------------------------
So?
thats one of your lines hehe


>
> Does that mean that he copied it? No, it doesn't.... What it does mean
is
> that he found another means to an end. Any of the 70s class C palomars
and
> markos, etc.... will run at higher than normal voltages.
>
> If Danny and company copied the design... Who gives a flying fuck? It
was
> bettered (as the Dave boys point out, time after time, by #12), but not
> after he offered the same help to the Dave crew.

=============================================================
I have yet to see any improvements by #12 that have made a difference in the
comp amps. Again he offered to do the warranty work, he was not needed for
anything else.


>
> Before X-Force was on the "hit list", "Shit list" or whatever else, it was
> No-Name.

--------------------------------------------------------
No it was cookie, remember his were taking over the market . Noname hasnt
been a threat other than on he web boards


> Everyone has to have a bitch about something.

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-------------
And your No different.

>
> The consumer bitches about DaveMade taking so long to get a product to
them.

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----------------
ask Ice cold how long it took him to get his amp 2 or 3 days hmm some wait.
Why do you think there is a wait because nobody wants them.

>
> The DaveMade people bitch about people "stealing" their design.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Stealing the design, where to get the parts and names and numbers from a
customer base may not seem like much to you. But saying it is in a motrola
book and that this is where he got it is complete bullshit.
>
> See the justice?
--------------
Not really

>
>
> So everyone should just quit bitching. If you want a DaveMade amplifier,
> buy one and wait. If you want an X-Force, buy one of them and get it in a
> few days.

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------
Again I think Ice cold and Programbo got theres in less than 5 days from
what they have said in other posts

>
> Concrete Man out here taking up bandwith rehashing shit that Danny did is
> just getting plain old. Just like the rest of the arguments about this
> subject. If you want to know what happened to Danny, call him up.

-=--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------
Toll I asked a simple question about a rumor I had heard from someone who i
feel is giving me true information and that I still stand by is true. read
it

" Is it true 123 the is no longer affiliated with X-Force this is the
latest

news i have heard, since 123 was the main man behind x force getting there
start he brought davemades technology, customers, suppliers etc with him.


I am assuming he is not needed now ? "

So check the posts after that and tell me who started the rest if people
don't like what I have to say sorry it is the truth. I am not sure where to
call him is he up north or down south?

>
>
> >This is where this idea came from I should know
>
> Great. You will also remember when you guys where testing the Viagra
> antenna system on your truck, I told you how to build a remote field
> strength meter. You said that it was the same as Daves (in theory).
>
> Guess I copied his? Although one was never sold to me?

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-
No never said you did but if you came to his shop and saw his, then watched
him build his, then built your own and started selling them saying dave got
his idea from Autek I may then say you copied his

>
>
> I am not trying to be a dick, Dennis, I am just tired of the wasted
bandwith
> and the same old shit being dredged up every couple weeks.

=========================================================
I am not trying to be a dick either it just come naturally for me, I am
tired of lots of the arguements you and everyone else get into as well about
lots of useless info but i don't say anything. I just want to know why is it
any different for me to ask what happened to dan, should'nt the consumers
know if he is no longer with them. Other than that my post were jumped on
by x force 151 and warlock and i said what i felt was needed in my replys
Some people dont like the truth. If the rumor I heard was true and we find
out in time will I still be a dick?

Toll Free

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> I am not trying to be a dick either it just come naturally for me, I am
> tired of lots of the arguements you and everyone else get into as well
about
> lots of useless info but i don't say anything. I just want to know why is
it
> any different for me to ask what happened to dan, should'nt the consumers
> know if he is no longer with them. Other than that my post were jumped on
> by x force 151 and warlock and i said what i felt was needed in my replys
> Some people dont like the truth. If the rumor I heard was true and we find
> out in time will I still be a dick?


It isn't any problem for you to ask about dan.

The problem was the dredging of the old shit up ....

Again.


Don't know if you will still be a dick, entirely up to you.


--Toll Free

>
>
>
>

Toll Free

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My, my, my... Looks like the DaveMade boys have themselves a little punk
now, doesn't it?

I always thought Dennis could fight his own fights, and he always has...
Does he pay you for the shit you spew, or do you do it for free?

I prefer to think that you do it for free.... I wouldn't want to lower my
opinion of Dennis.


> "Toll Free" Why do you even get involved with these messages


Because I have been around here, put up with the wasted bandwith and have to
listen to Dennis bitch about how Danny "stole" the secret DaveMade recipe at
least once a month.

It is like a broken record.... It got old nearly 6 months ago.


I like Dennis, always have. That doesn't mean that I have to agree with the
way he handles DaveMade / X-Force battles on the public forum of
rec.radio.cb.


any way I never
> heard of any product with your name on.


Then you haven't been on the west coast or the south much.

I don't do the competition shit much anymore, but you ask the bigger
stations on the west coast (Skipshooter, BigBamBoo and some others), and
they will know who I am.

Your insignificant. You know a couple people (and I am giving you the
benifit of the doubt here... I really do believe that you know Dennis, and
that is about it) that make DaveMade, and that is about it.

Great. I know the same. Now what?


I know your thinks the same about me


No, I think absolutely nothing about you. I feel that you are a pile of
crap, who cannot spell, puts a bunch of lies out their and decieves others.

Yep, that about sums it up.

No, wait.... I believe that if Concrete Man told you how to blow your nose,
you would listen, and do it.


> but I Am a Dave Made user and was for a very long time.I use nothing but
> Dave Made and that is why I put my two cents in what is your excuse?


Great. Loyalty is nice.

What is my excuse?....

Excuse for what? For my comments?

Because I was one of the oldest people on this newsgroup. At this time,
Bill Eitner and Brass Monkey are about the only people out here longer than
me. Concrete Man and I have been about the same, I believe. Therefore, I
can post what I want, when I want.

So can you, even though half the time you don't know what you are talking
about, have no idea of the reality of the world, and are just a stupid kid
with a pocketful of change that has found a manufacturer that is more than
willing to trick him out.

Yes, what you have been told will work, but not to peak efficiency, and why
half step?


>
> Your site links to Dave made and you talk all this shit about them?


Yes, I do link to DaveMade. Who gives a shit.

I talk shit about DaveMade?

No, I don't think so. I talk down to people when I feel that they are
opening their mouth and inserting their foot, and more than once I have
bagged on Dennis for the way that he is handling the X-Force fiasco.

It is old news, and should be dropped. Everyone knows what is going on and
who really cares anymore? But, people shouldn't have to have dirty laundry
run across rec.radio.cb a couple times a month.

And FYI, I also did the same to Steve at ExportsRUs over the way he handled
the shit about dropping DaveMade. I was the person that got Steve and
Dennis together, and then had to watch as people acted like little kids.

I don't hold anything back. I don't care who you are, or what you do in
this industry. If I think that you are acting like an asshole, your going
to be told that your acting like an asshole. At least nobody here has to
figure out which asshole my nose is planted in... Something that was self
evident with you!

I don't
> get it every since I posted those emails you sent you totally changed the
> way you talk about concrete.


No, it totally changed the way that I felt about you. Made me realize that
you don't have the education that you think you do... At least, you don't
have the emotional side of it down.

You remind me of the little tweaker who packs his nose, then goes on a shit
rampage.

And true to what I say, about the same time every week, you go hell bent on
the newsgroup with more shit.

Gee... Put two and two together and see what you get.

I care less what you, Dennis, Danny or anyone else thinks. If they can't
see that someone who speaks their mind, TRUTHFULLY, is someone to listen to,
then so be it. However, I don't think that Dennis and I have any
irreconcilable differences.

When Dennis has a problem with something I say, he is more than welcome to
call, come by, email or whatever me and we can talk about it then. So far,
this has yet to happen, which leads me to believe that Dennis is more mature
than you, and can have a disagreement with someone and then let it go..

You have been unable to do that, junior.

> I'm sure he doesn't give a flying fuck about me and I don't care as long
as
> he gets me my amps his is #1 in my book.

No, your attitude speaks different.


> I don't know why every one complains about delaying


Because it speaks of a couple things..


1. People want to have correspondence with the people they deal with.
2. People want to know that after the sale, the manufacturer will be their
to back the product up. When it takes months to get the product, you have
to question the after sales support.
3. DaveMade has been plagued with the same problems for quite some time.
You would think that the manufacturer would get better distribution
channels, better or more builders and would be able to deliver a product in
a timely manner.

Yes, everyone can see that their are times when a manufacturer gets
behind..... But, they either hire more people, or get their ass in gear and
make up for it.

They DON'T let the problem continue to manifest itself until it becomes
public knowledge.

how many of these people
> send payment in advance?

Pass?


You know Dave Made isn't dealing apples were
> talking illegal shit here


Yes, and since the 80s, I have been dealing with the people that deal it.

Messenger? Lived about 20 minutes from the person who built and designed
it.
Texas Star? LIved about 45 minutes away
Palomar? Lived a bit farther away

Now,

Silver Streak
Blue Face
Magnum
Messenger
Texas Star
Cookie
X-Force

They don't seem to have the same problems with delivering product, and they
all ship more than DaveMade does.

What does this tell you?

That they don't have the inner turmoil, they have more people building, they
have better distribution, etc., etc., etc. than DaveMade.... Singly or a
combination of the above.


and When you get a hundred idiots a day saying
> they want to buy an amp and change there mind you also will start blowing
> off people.

Bullshit.

Only an idiot would think that way.


I have no problem sending money in advance and I have no problem
> getting my amp.

And you also live an hour away.

Gee... Funny how that works, isn't it.

And you are also purchasing a large amplifier, that automatically has more
profit built into it.

See the big picture yet, Jr.


>
> Why don't you go start a Texas star thread of your own and keep you.

And keep you what?

I have you frazzled again, I can tell. Your not even finishing your
sentences again!

I doubt
> you will get many people to join you but why don't you give it a try.


Been their, done that.

Besides, what purpose would it serve. Texas Star has been around longer
than most of the amps on the market today, have a proven design that works
for the targeted audience, and don't seem to have the "dirty laundry" that
your boys have.

As a matter of fact, the only time people bitched about not getting a Texas
Star was when they where busted!

That seems like a pretty good track record to me.

A. Good delivery.
B. Good product (for daily driver amps).
C. Good customer service (great, if you ask me... Way over and above the
call of duty)

Or, to say the same thing that you do... This is a public forum. I can
post where I want, when I want, and their is nothing that you can say that
will make it any different.

Why shouldn't I be allowed to say what I want, when I want. You say that
you can!

>
> Every Dave I get many emails about people making fun of you and your
> stories. It makes me laugh.

Every Dave?

I don't get it.

Did you mean Every Day?

And, sonny boy, I can say the same about you, however, to leave the dirty
laundry where it belongs, I don't say anything about it.

The emails don't make me laugh... You do that enough on your own.


> I will be the first to admit that I am nothing in this CB game.

You got that right.


I know I'm
> just a sucker with money but You are not one bit better but you act like
you
> are the coolest thing since sliced bread as Denise put it and I find it
> true.

Who is Denise?

Are you making fun of your boy now?


>
> Get a life and stay out of the Dave made conversations if you don't like
> reading them!!!!!!

No. I can post what I want, when I want, where I want.

You said it first. Can you blame someone for following your lead.

If you don't like what I have to say.... Don't read it.

Use the kill file.

Lastly, get off of people jockstrap.

You are a fool, you have a pocketfull of money, and it shows.

Peace I'm back out!!!!

If only that was true.
>
>

Toll Free

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> I never said anything about computers but You put allot of words in my
mouth
> so I wont bother to go there.


Sorry. I didn't mean to confuse you with the big words.

I really do apologize.

> I pay $40.00 a month so I don't have to worry what my the BGP4 routing
> protocol is,


What my the...

What does that mean?


and how to implement redundancy through it, and how to keep a


> firewall system running utilizing BGP4 and multiple internet routers?


Why not... Your the one with the big education here.

Or.... Wait... I forgot. It is just nice to talk big, but not be able to
back up what you say.

I assumed that your education must have been in computers, because you
really don't know shit about electronics.

That was proven a couple weeks ago with the crap that you attempted to sell
the newsgroup about volting an amplifier!

>
> This is the same way I dont worry about how amps are built or anything you
> think you know more then me about.


Think?

No, I have proven it.


> When I want somthing I get it. If it cost me money I dont care But I get.
> I have betterthings to do then lean big words and try to impress people on
> news groups.


So do I.

Unfortunately for you... I like to piss you off.

Your easy. Hell, you can't even spell or use correct linguistics.


>
>
>

prozac 625

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I never said anything about computers but You put allot of words in my mouth
so I wont bother to go there.
I pay $40.00 a month so I don't have to worry what my the BGP4 routing
protocol is, and how to implement redundancy through it, and how to keep a

firewall system running utilizing BGP4 and multiple internet routers?

This is the same way I dont worry about how amps are built or anything you


think you know more then me about.

prozac 625

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"Toll Free" Why do you even get involved with these messages any way I never
heard of any product with your name on. I know your thinks the same about me

but I Am a Dave Made user and was for a very long time.I use nothing but
Dave Made and that is why I put my two cents in what is your excuse?

Your site links to Dave made and you talk all this shit about them? I don't


get it every since I posted those emails you sent you totally changed the
way you talk about concrete.

I'm sure he doesn't give a flying fuck about me and I don't care as long as
he gets me my amps his is #1 in my book.

I don't know why every one complains about delaying how many of these people
send payment in advance? You know Dave Made isn't dealing apples were
talking illegal shit here and When you get a hundred idiots a day saying


they want to buy an amp and change there mind you also will start blowing

off people. I have no problem sending money in advance and I have no problem
getting my amp.

Why don't you go start a Texas star thread of your own and keep you. I doubt


you will get many people to join you but why don't you give it a try.

Every Dave I get many emails about people making fun of you and your


stories. It makes me laugh.

I will be the first to admit that I am nothing in this CB game. I know I'm


just a sucker with money but You are not one bit better but you act like you
are the coolest thing since sliced bread as Denise put it and I find it
true.

Get a life and stay out of the Dave made conversations if you don't like
reading them!!!!!! Peace I'm back out!!!!

William Warlock

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>Buy a Dave made there the best key all day and never rest.
>give me a D give me an A give me a V Ahh shit you get the point.>> Dave I'll
>where a skirt if it helps out sell X-force<<

Getting desperate? Doesn't take much to bring some people out of the closet!

William Warlock

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>From: "prozac 625" proz...@bayshorenetwork.com

>I know your thinks the same about me
>but I Am a Dave Made user and was for a very long time.I use nothing but
>Dave Made

Let's see here. His first box was the one he currently owns, a 16 pill Dave. I
guess when you're that young, a few months IS a long time! Now that's
experience!

William Warlock

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>From: "Waveguide" wave...@aol.com
>So you are saying you have spoke to him personally.
>

Yes.

>I have put it behind me you have repied to my posts regarding this My point
>was I asked what happened to dan because i have heard some rumors he was
not>with x force any longer.

I answered that a week ago. Your sources are wrong.

>I have at one point but no longer. I am the head Dave cheerleader and gladly
>admit to it . Your not an x force guy but you sound like there cheerleader
too.

I like standing up for people who try hard, provide customer service in a world
where it is rare anymore, build a quality product in a timely manner and stand
behind it. If that makes me an X-Force cheerleader, then so be it. If that's
what I am, I think I'm a lot better team representative than your "prozac".

BRAND SPANKIN' NEW

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In article <4-383E...@storefull-215.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,

chocal...@webtv.net (love you) wrote:
> Foxie and Skullcracka were students of Dominator which Dominator was a
> student of Sneaky P. And John Boy Of Memphis,tenn.The Next
Greatest
> Box Builder of All Time Was Slave Boy From Akron,Ohio. Davemade is

just
> a college educated guy that uses computer designs to build box but we
> all know that Davemade boxes are not the same like they use to be he
> used to be the King of all a YEAR Ago now Foxie is taking
> over.Skullcracka has the best skiptalking box on the market.REMEMBER
> JUST AN OPINION!
>
> dirty south
>
SOME OF WHAT YOU SAID IS TRUE. I KNOW GUYS THAT HAVE DAVEMADES FROM
MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO AND THEY SAY THEY ARE THE BEST BECAUSE IN THOSE
DAYS DAVE REALLY MADE THEM...
ALSO AS FAR AS SKULLCRACKA, I HEAR HIS AMPS ARE GOOD ALSO BUT THEY BLOW
PILLS TO EASILY.
HEY JUST AN OPINION...

BRAND SPANKIN' NEW

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> ask Ice cold how long it took him to get his amp 2 or 3 days hmm some
wait.
> Why do you think there is a wait because nobody wants them.

COME ON CONCRETE, EVERYONE ON THIS NEWSGROUP KNOWS THAT ICECOLD IN NYC
HAS A VERY GOOD AND LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH DAVE AND PRIME MINISTER.
THAT IS WHY HE CAN GET HIS STUFF SO QUICKLY. I AM SAVING UP SOME MONEY
AND I WILL GET A DAVEMADE SOON. BECAUSE I AM QUITE SICK AND TIRED OF
HEARING ICECOLD IN NY GET HIS NAME CALLED ALL THE DAMN TIME.
NO OFFENSE COLD, YOU JUST DRIVE ME CRAZY OUT THERE ON THE SUPERBOWL.

therad...@mail.com

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On 27 Nov 1999 07:24:11 GMT, warl...@aol.com (William Warlock )
wrote:

>>From: "prozac 625" proz...@bayshorenetwork.com
>>I know your thinks the same about me
>>but I Am a Dave Made user and was for a very long time.I use nothing but
>>Dave Made
>
>Let's see here. His first box was the one he currently owns, a 16 pill Dave. I
>guess when you're that young, a few months IS a long time! Now that's
>experience!
>
>
>
>

>Wm.
>
>The artist formerly known as "Cheez"

ROFLMAO!

Good Point!

therad...@mail.com

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That's cause you ain't got nothing between your fuckin' ears to use
big words and impress people, Bitch boy!


>
>


prozac 625

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AGAIN PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT CB
EXPERIENCE. I BUY CB STUFF AND I USE IT DOESN'T RULE MY LIFE.

"William Warlock " <warl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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prozac 625

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BASICALLY ALL YOU JUST SAID WAS I CANT SPELL/TYPE GOOD (WHO CARES I DON'T
TYPE WITH ONE FINGER),

I HAVE MONEY (YEAH AND I LOVE SPENDING IT),

YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THEN JOIN CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING
TO DO WITH(AND YOU SAY I HAVE THE PROBLEMS?),

YOU LIVE CLOSE TO THE BIGGEST RIP OFF AMP COMPANIES IN THE WORD (BET YOUR
PROUD),

THE ONLY THINGS YOU CAN USE AGAINST ME ARE THINGS I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT
(DONT YOU GET IT. CB IS A GAME IN MY EYES A LIFE IN YOURS),

YOU SAID YOURE ONLY KNOWN OVER BY YOUR LOCALS (LOL DAVE MADE IS WORLD WIDE),

YOU SAID YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO POST WHAT YOU WANT (BUT YOUR CRYING OVER WHAT
CONCRETE MAN IS POSTING GO FIGURE),

YOU SAY IT IS EASIER TO GET BIG BOXES FROM DAVE (WRONGE THEY MAKE FAR MORE
SMALL BOXES THEN BIG ONES),

OH BY THE WAY THAT REALY HURT WHEN YOU CALLED ME A PUNK( I THOUGHT YOU COUND
DO BETTER THEN NAME CALLING),

YOU SAY I DONT KNOW BIG STARS IN THE CB GAME (YOUR RIGHT WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN?) IT MEANS I DONT PACK UP MY FAMILY AND GO TRACKING DOWN KEY DOWNS SO I
CAN TAKE PICTURES OF THE BOG MOBILES AND BEG THEM TO REMEBER MY NAME),

NEED I SAY MORE? YOU ARE NOT THE COOLEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD!

Toll Free

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Once again..


Blah, blah, blah...

Get a life.

Toll Free

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Tim

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i seem to see a patern developing here. in each and every post he mentions that
he has money. well i wouldnt doubt it at all if hes a broke little kid. often
the ones bragging about what they have dont even really have it at all. were
all on the net with computers and we all have CB's so its a good guess not too
many of us here are broke people. go some where else with that bullshit. while
our sitting in your car talking on your 32 pill, i'm sitting in my brand new
house on the water talking on my base or typing on my new computer. who cares?


>Subject: Re: Opinions on Davemade
>From: "prozac 625"


> I HAVE MONEY (YEAH AND I LOVE SPENDING IT),
>

dont confuse what your parents have and what you have.


Good luck and best regards from Tim 082.
IR-DX Group http://home.wxs.nl/~19ir01
LD-DX Group http://come.to/limadelta
Kp-DX Group http://www.gate.net/~kp
Daily Updated 11 Meter DX News
http://home.t-online.de/home/IRDX.GERMany/dxnews~1.htm

Captain ColeSlaw

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William Warlock <warl...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >
> >So you are saying you have spoke to him personally.
>
> Yes
----------------------------------------------------------
Wow arent you lucky .


> I answered that a week ago. Your sources are wrong.

===============================================
Thats funny a second "source" has told me almost the exact same as the
first, and they are in different parts of he country.

>
> I like standing up for people who try hard, provide customer service in a
world
> where it is rare anymore, build a quality product in a timely manner and
stand
> behind it.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
How do you know davemade doesnt try hard, build a quality product, and stand
behind it. Have you ever dealt with them personally? Have you ever bought
anything from them. ? Are you going on second hand info? Ask some of the
guys in here who have bought from them How they rate? Not someone who hasnt
had any dealings with them.


If that makes me an X-Force cheerleader, then so be it. If that's
> what I am, I think I'm a lot better team representative than your
"prozac".

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
What makes you any better than him? He loves his davemade amps, and is
willing to brag about them even if he had to wait. His only affilitation
with them is that he likes there product. I doesnt make him a bad guy.

Captain ColeSlaw

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Toll, Prozac has his own mind I havent told him to say anything. but i do
want to remain friends with you and some of the others, most of this shit is
really silly stuff. So I am going to be 10-7 regarding this matter unless I
see something that burns my shorts and I'll have to pull the sock out of my
mouth and fire away. Otherwise it is non- sense We are supposed to be
making friends and helping one an other. But I do appreciate prozacs
loyalty.

Toll Free <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

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prozac 625

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damn toll your posts keep getting better and better are you running out of
useless material?

"Toll Free" <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message

news:5xT%3.370$y3.9797@insync...


> Once again..
>
>
> Blah, blah, blah...
>
> Get a life.
>
>
>
> Toll Free
>
> prozac 625 <proz...@bayshorenetwork.com> wrote in message
> news:XiT%3.4931$lY5.1...@news.rdc1.nj.home.com...
> > BASICALLY ALL YOU JUST SAID WAS I CANT SPELL/TYPE GOOD (WHO CARES I
DON'T
> > TYPE WITH ONE FINGER),
> >

> > I HAVE MONEY (YEAH AND I LOVE SPENDING IT),
> >

THE KAPTAIN

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William Warlock

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>> I answered that a week ago. Your sources are wrong.
>===============================================
>Thats funny a second "source" has told me almost the exact same as the
>first, and they are in different parts of he country.

Your second source is wrong also. Maybe you should take what you hear with a
grain of salt.

>> I like standing up for people who try hard, provide customer service in a
world where it is rare anymore, build a quality product in a timely manner and
stand
>> behind it.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------
>How do you know davemade doesnt try hard, build a quality product, and stand
>behind it. Have you ever dealt with them personally? Have you ever bought
>anything from them. ? Are you going on second hand info?

If they're trying hard, then they define "hard" differently than years ago.
Yes, I have used and sold Dave products. Since X-force came about, I no longer
have to wait for repliesand wait for products. Unlike you, I don't repeat
rumor, I deal with first hand information.

>>Ask some of the guys in here who have bought from them How they rate? Not
someone who hasnt had any dealings with them.<<

I can see that people who live close to a distributor haven't had problems that
they will admit. That's great, but what about the rest of the country?

>If that makes me an X-Force cheerleader, then so be it. If that's what I am, I
think I'm a lot better team representative than your
>"prozac".
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-----------
>What makes you any better than him? He loves his davemade amps, and is
>willing to brag about them even if he had to wait. His only affilitation
>with them is that he likes there product. I doesnt make him a bad guy.

He's an obvious idiot, are you going to deny that too? Just because he owns a
Dave Made product doesn't make him a good guy, doesn't justify the fool he
makes of you and himself every day here. A homeless wino loves his Boones Farm
wine too, but they don't get him to do commercials!

COLD as ICE

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In article <19991126063139...@ng-fb1.aol.com>, warl...@aol.com
(William Warlock ) writes:

>>From: boyg...@aol.com (BoyGonBad)/Waveguide/Getsum
>>Well I asked a question about a rumor I heard and I stand by what was told
>to
>>me by a reliable source
>
>Warlok wrote:
>>>Dan still "IS" X-Force
>
>BGB wrote:
>>i have heard otherwise
>
>I've answered your question. You may have "reliable" sources, but in
>conversation with the man in question, you have heard wrong.
>
>
>Warlok wrote:
>>>Unlike you Dennis, I'm not putting Dave down, nor you. I think it's great
>>>when
>>>someone takes a basic design and makes it better. That's what Dave did, and
>>>that's what Dan did.
>
>BGB wrote:
>>Unlike me?, I am not putting dave down either, I didn't put anyone down but
>>asked a simple question
>
>You've been dogging Dan since he left. He's not in here dogging Dave for
>stealing Motorolla's design, Texas Star, TNT
>
>BGB wrote:>Dave did not go to wok for someone and leave with there design
>>and confidental info. Dan has not improved anything in my opinion
>
>I don't know who Dave worked for. As I said, he wasn't born with an
>electronic
>degree. You don't just dive in and start changing/innovating a design without
>some knowledge from education
>
>BGB wrote:>Please don't put
>>Dan in daves electronic class they are not even close now I like danny but
>he
>>is no dave when it comes to rf and electronics.
>
>I didn't put Dan in that class, but that doesn't mean he couldn't be. Dan is
>young still, give him time. Those of us whom love radio and rf, will forge
>ahead looking for something new, something better, and how to get it done.
>Dave
>is not the Lone Ranger
>nor Bill Gates. I respect Dave for what he's done, and Dan (123), Toll
>Free,Sean, Dennis(12), Carl (EFJ), John (SledgeHammer), BlueGill, 2Watt,
>Muddy,
>and on and on.
>Your hangup with "copying" is monotenous <sp>, Dave copied, Armadillo copied,
>cookie copied, hell, nearly everyone copied something and then personalized
>or
>improved or both.
>Gees Dennis, put it behind you already.
>
>
>>I asked a simple question what happened to 123 and now a few x force guys
>>come out and make a big deal about it. I don't work for dave so why is it a
>>problem to ask these questions?
>
>I thought you did work for/with Dave, hmm, guess I missed on that one. That
>must make you the Dave cheerleader. I'm not an "X-Force" guy, I just like the
>people that build them, how they operate, how they care about every customer
>no
>matter how large or small. They don't have the "bad attitude" you get from
>alot
>of Dave dealers or distributors.

This is getting pathetic Cheeze!!!!!!!!!!
Somebody please stop this madness!!!!


ICE, ICE, AND MORE ICE MR. ICECOLD BIG APPLE TREES JUST GOT DOWN........

COLD as ICE

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In article <19991127221333...@ng-ca1.aol.com>, warl...@aol.com
(William Warlock ) writes:

>What makes you any better than him? He loves his davemade amps, and is
>>willing to brag about them even if he had to wait. His only affilitation
>>with them is that he likes there product. I doesnt make him a bad guy.
>
>He's an obvious idiot, are you going to deny that too? Just because he owns a
>Dave Made product doesn't make him a good guy, doesn't justify the fool he
>makes of you and himself every day here. A homeless wino loves his Boones
>Farm
>wine too, but they don't get him to do commercials!

Come on Cheez stop this!!! You are making me fall on the floor. But seriously
let's just stop all this bickering!!!!

Programbo5

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>Subject: Re: Opinions on Davemade
>From: BRAND SPANKIN' NEW bran...@hotmail.com

>ALSO AS FAR AS SKULLCRACKA, I HEAR HIS AMPS ARE GOOD ALSO BUT THEY BLOW

Yeah but you gotta give Prime credit..SkullCracka`s sure are pretty looking
boxes

I hope I did`nt brain my damage.

Toll Free

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It is hard to have something useful to say to a useless person.

Sorry, but you don't even rate replies any longer.

Won, no... You where never a contender.

Bored the competition.... Yep, you sure did!

Have a nice life.


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prozac 625

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Is this a promise? Well it sure mad my day!
>
> Sorry, but you don't even rate replies any longer> Have a nice life.

prozac 625

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I never hear of a bigger bitch then you toll. See ya.

Stephen

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Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that there
is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to make
the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your eyes
open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not the
fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didnt say I was
king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and
unless you have something usefull to say to help someone then dont bother
posting.

§piker


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Toll Free

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Yet another one of the Prozac bendovers.

Amazing how so many people from the same town (traced by IP) have a
problem.....

Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
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Stephen

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Well for your information asshole my internet provider might be in albany
NY. But I am as far upstate as you can get asshole. On the candian border.
You want to fucking scan my fucking ip asshole. Well you are fucking with
the wrong mother fucker when it comes to computers bitch. You proved my
fucking point just by posting what you did. You allways have to have the
last word in dont you? lmfao. Your pathetic. Get a fucking life.


Toll Free wrote in message ...

prozac 625

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Hey toll this must be one of your friends? Doe!


"Stephen" <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
news:81sbnd$u28$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
> Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that there
> is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to
make
> the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your eyes
> open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not the

> fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didn't say I


was
> king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and

> unless you have something useful to say to help someone then don't bother
> posting.
>
> 吠iker

Stephen

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Hmm.. Wonder how long it will be before toll is back. Oh and by the way dont
see how you think we live in the same town. I did a little tracing of my own
and sorry not the same town. Hell not even close lmfao. Might want to know
what your talking about before you say it. I dont even know him for that
matter. I hope you get the point and maybe stop being such an asshole. I
have some shit up my sleeve if you want to continue being one.

§piker

Toll Free wrote in message ...
>Yet another one of the Prozac bendovers.
>
>Amazing how so many people from the same town (traced by IP) have a
>problem.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
>news:81sbnd$u28$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
>> Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that
there
>> is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to
>make
>> the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your eyes
>> open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not the

>> fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didnt say I


>was
>> king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and

>> unless you have something usefull to say to help someone then dont bother
>> posting.
>>
>> §piker

drg...@ziplink.net

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Wow what an EXPANSIVE and impressive vocabulary.

Asshole = 3
fuck(er, ing, derivatives) = 6

9 expletives in a 6 line paragraph. That has to have set
a record somewhere.

-Mike


On Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:26:13 -0800, "Stephen" <pla...@capital.net>
wrote:

>Well for your information asshole my internet provider might be in albany
>NY. But I am as far upstate as you can get asshole. On the candian border.
>You want to fucking scan my fucking ip asshole. Well you are fucking with
>the wrong mother fucker when it comes to computers bitch. You proved my
>fucking point just by posting what you did. You allways have to have the
>last word in dont you? lmfao. Your pathetic. Get a fucking life.
>
>

>Toll Free wrote in message ...
>>Yet another one of the Prozac bendovers.
>>
>>Amazing how so many people from the same town (traced by IP) have a
>>problem.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
>>news:81sbnd$u28$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
>>> Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that
>there
>>> is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to
>>make
>>> the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your eyes
>>> open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not the
>>> fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didnt say I
>>was
>>> king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and
>>> unless you have something usefull to say to help someone then dont bother
>>> posting.
>>>

>>> 吠iker

Toll Free

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Not very long at all, you moron...

Downloading at 10 megabit is quick....

All 200+ of your emails took a grand total of 20 seconds to download.

Wonder how your ISP will like the headers coming from netvigator.com


They where most helpful.


Toll Free

Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message

news:81t206$6qf$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...


> Hmm.. Wonder how long it will be before toll is back. Oh and by the way
dont
> see how you think we live in the same town. I did a little tracing of my
own
> and sorry not the same town. Hell not even close lmfao. Might want to know
> what your talking about before you say it. I dont even know him for that
> matter. I hope you get the point and maybe stop being such an asshole. I
> have some shit up my sleeve if you want to continue being one.
>

> 吠iker

prozac 625

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hey shit head im mean toll i have no idea what you are saying here but i
dont no this peson
he is just another of the many people i found that know you aint shit

"Toll Free" <toll...@bigradios.com> wrote in message
news:TQk04.668$y3.12335@insync...

> Yet another one of the Prozac bendovers.
>
> Amazing how so many people from the same town (traced by IP) have a
> problem.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
> news:81sbnd$u28$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
> > Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that
there
> > is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to
> make
> > the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your eyes
> > open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not
the
> > fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didnt say I
> was
> > king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and
> > unless you have something usefull to say to help someone then dont
bother
> > posting.
> >
> > §piker

prozac 625

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Steve I live in NJ so toll has no idea what he is talking about (nothing
new).

"Stephen" <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
news:81sof9$kuo$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...

> Well for your information asshole my internet provider might be in albany
> NY. But I am as far upstate as you can get asshole. On the candian border.
> You want to fucking scan my fucking ip asshole. Well you are fucking with
> the wrong mother fucker when it comes to computers bitch. You proved my
> fucking point just by posting what you did. You allways have to have the
> last word in dont you? lmfao. Your pathetic. Get a fucking life.
>
>
> Toll Free wrote in message ...
> >Yet another one of the Prozac bendovers.
> >
> >Amazing how so many people from the same town (traced by IP) have a
> >problem.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
> >news:81sbnd$u28$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
> >> Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that
> there
> >> is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to
> >make
> >> the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your
eyes
> >> open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not
the
> >> fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didnt say
I
> >was
> >> king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and
> >> unless you have something usefull to say to help someone then dont
bother
> >> posting.
> >>
> >> 吠iker

Toll Free

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Check your mail.

You got some this afternoon... About 4:00


Also, ask Paula how she is doing for me.


Thanks!


--Your new little friend.


Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message

news:81t206$6qf$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
> Hmm.. Wonder how long it will be before toll is back. Oh and by the way
dont
> see how you think we live in the same town. I did a little tracing of my
own
> and sorry not the same town. Hell not even close lmfao. Might want to know
> what your talking about before you say it. I dont even know him for that
> matter. I hope you get the point and maybe stop being such an asshole. I
> have some shit up my sleeve if you want to continue being one.
>

> §piker


>
>
>
> Toll Free wrote in message ...
> >Yet another one of the Prozac bendovers.
> >
> >Amazing how so many people from the same town (traced by IP) have a
> >problem.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
> >news:81sbnd$u28$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
> >> Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that
> there
> >> is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to
> >make
> >> the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your
eyes
> >> open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not
the
> >> fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didnt say
I
> >was
> >> king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and
> >> unless you have something usefull to say to help someone then dont
bother
> >> posting.
> >>

> >> §piker

Stephen

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jees that really hurts toll. Just asuming that it was me that did something.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Hey send them to my isp thou they are
totally untraceable. Like I told ya we are just starting off toll. We will
have some fun. Or I will anyways.

吠iker

Toll Free wrote in message ...

>Not very long at all, you moron...
>
>Downloading at 10 megabit is quick....
>
>All 200+ of your emails took a grand total of 20 seconds to download.
>
>
>
>Wonder how your ISP will like the headers coming from netvigator.com
>
>
>They where most helpful.
>
>
>
>
>Toll Free
>

>Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
>news:81t206$6qf$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
>> Hmm.. Wonder how long it will be before toll is back. Oh and by the way
>dont
>> see how you think we live in the same town. I did a little tracing of my
>own
>> and sorry not the same town. Hell not even close lmfao. Might want to
know
>> what your talking about before you say it. I dont even know him for that
>> matter. I hope you get the point and maybe stop being such an asshole. I
>> have some shit up my sleeve if you want to continue being one.
>>

>> 吠iker


>>
>>
>>
>> Toll Free wrote in message ...
>> >Yet another one of the Prozac bendovers.
>> >
>> >Amazing how so many people from the same town (traced by IP) have a
>> >problem.....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Stephen <pla...@capital.net> wrote in message
>> >news:81sbnd$u28$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET...
>> >> Seems to me toll has something to bitch about in every new post that
>> there
>> >> is. Seems he enjoys getting things going with the group. Then tries to
>> >make
>> >> the other person look bad to the group. Just hope you all have your
>eyes
>> >> open and see that toll is just being a fucking asshole. Toll your not
>the
>> >> fucking KING of CB. So stop acting like it. Before you say I didnt say
>I
>> >was
>> >> king I will answer you right now, YOU ACT like you are so fuck off and
>> >> unless you have something usefull to say to help someone then dont
>bother
>> >> posting.
>> >>

>> >> 吠iker

Stephen

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Sorry nothing in the Email. Wow the paula was so hard to find out. Jees you
should be proud of yourself. You cant even check an ip address you have lots
to learn.

吠iker

Toll Free wrote in message <8uD04.788$y3.14475@insync>...


>Check your mail.
>
>You got some this afternoon... About 4:00
>
>
>Also, ask Paula how she is doing for me.
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>--Your new little friend.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Stephen

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Oh just to say again you can go and bitch to my isp like you bitch on here
all you want. You have no proof that I did anything. Threats are one thing,
cant get in trouble for those lol. But try proving that some Email you got
came from me. Have fun trying.

吠iker

Stephen wrote in message <81vd1f$on8$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET>...

Scott (Unit 69)

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one trace route:
traceroute to 209.23.5.152 (209.23.5.152), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 core1-fe-0-0 (207.114.0.1) 1.468 ms 1.016 ms 0.891 ms
2 abs-netaxs-gw.balt-core.h0-0-45M.netaxs.net (207.106.2.97) 1.662 ms 1.369 ms 1.265 ms
3 amtrak.phl-core.brain-h1-0-45M.netaxs.net (207.106.2.17) 4.783 ms 5.203 ms 5.047 ms
4 amtrak-t3-l.netaxs.net (207.106.127.245) 5.469 ms 4.805 ms 6.214 ms
5 borgcube.phl-core.f0-0-0-100M.netaxs.net (207.8.186.85) 5.206 ms 7.096 ms 5.72 ms
6 phl-gw.pennsauken.h2-0-45M.netaxs.net (207.106.2.206) 10.892 ms 6.354 ms 6.482 ms
7 sprint-nap.globalcenter.net (192.157.69.67) 9.65 ms 8.334 ms 8.586 ms
8 s11-1-1.br1.PHI1.gblx.net (206.132.118.229) 8.932 ms 23.272 ms 18.414 ms
9 pos4-1-155M.cr1.PHI1.gblx.net (206.132.118.213) 9.886 ms 17.772 ms 9.735 ms
10 pos8-2-155M.wr2.NYC2.gblx.net (206.132.118.217) 13.247 ms 10.29 ms 16.499 ms
11 pos2-0-622M.cr2.JFK.gblx.net (206.132.253.89) 10.874 ms 13.949 ms 11.718 ms
12 pos8-1-0-155M.ar2.JFK.gblx.net (206.132.253.106) 11.478 ms 15.302 ms 12.067 ms
13 iicon.cr2.JFK.gblx.net (206.165.49.162) 19.01 ms 15.914 ms 20.983 ms
14 alb-1-h210.logical.net (204.97.132.21) 32.774 ms 22.343 ms 19.183 ms
15 alb-ap1-1.logical.net (204.97.134.166) 22.22 ms 24.982 ms 22.692 ms
16 alb-as1.capital.net (204.97.168.77) 25.004 ms 20.565 ms 27.053 ms
17 ip-209-23-5-152.modem.capital.net (209.23.5.152) 145.865 ms 594.238 ms 128.524 ms

whois showed nothing on capital.net however logical.net shows:
Registrant:
Logical NET Corp. (LOGICAL2-DOM)
1593 Central Avenue
Albany, NY 12205

and if you look at the trace route you will see many paths thru NYC.

you must be very close to the big apple!

ps set your computer's date and time!

Stephen wrote:
>
> Sorry nothing in the Email. Wow the paula was so hard to find out. Jees you
> should be proud of yourself. You cant even check an ip address you have lots
> to learn.
>

> §piker
(more stupid ansi)
--
Posts to the newsgroup DO NOT need a copy e-mailed to me. Thanks.
(Unless you're afraid I won't see it!)

Unit SIX-NINE Chesapeake Bay

Stephen

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I forgot to add the THIRD in there. My time and date are set so go to some
lame ass site for lamers like yourself and get yourself another program that
doesnt work. Damn...

吠iker


Stephen wrote in message <81vi8l$3c2$1...@Usenet.Logical.NET>...
>Well you have to stop showing how little you people know. First of all I
>live as far from the "big apple" as you can get. Secondly you are all using
>lame ass programs to try and get my info. If you want to get someones info
>on who made a post that is easy you just right click it. I was reffering to
>the Emails that toll sapossably had received. Let's see him trace those.
>Damn stay out of it unless you know what your talking about.
>
>吠iker
>
>
>
>
>Scott (Unit 69) wrote in message <38433F2F...@hotmail.com>...

>>> 吠iker

Stephen

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Scott (Unit 69)

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Since you think that you know it all... how come you talked to
your uncle's cb from your computer?

Stephen wrote:
>
> I forgot to add the THIRD in there. My time and date are set so go to some
> lame ass site for lamers like yourself and get yourself another program that
> doesnt work. Damn...
>
> 吠iker
>

Mr. 137

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BRAND SPANKIN' NEW wrote in message <81ov0c$751$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
>> ask Ice cold how long it took him to get his amp 2 or 3 days hmm some
>wait.
>> Why do you think there is a wait because nobody wants them.
>
>COME ON CONCRETE, EVERYONE ON THIS NEWSGROUP KNOWS THAT ICECOLD IN NYC
>HAS A VERY GOOD AND LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH DAVE AND PRIME MINISTER.
>THAT IS WHY HE CAN GET HIS STUFF SO QUICKLY. I AM SAVING UP SOME MONEY
>AND I WILL GET A DAVEMADE SOON. BECAUSE I AM QUITE SICK AND TIRED OF
>HEARING ICECOLD IN NY GET HIS NAME CALLED ALL THE DAMN TIME.
>NO OFFENSE COLD, YOU JUST DRIVE ME CRAZY OUT THERE ON THE SUPERBOWL.
>


Thats because ICE is a bad man. Whats up big "B"? Out here around the
Valley of Death... I'm getting on down!!!

BRAND SPANKIN' NEW

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In article <s49d3am...@corp.supernews.com>,
WELL I GUESS ICECOLD IS A BAD MAN. HEY ICE I SENT YOU AN EMAIL WITH
SEVERAL QUESTIONS. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME OUT. THANKS. I KNOW YOU DONT
TALK TO MUCH ON THE NEWSGROUP ANYMORE ABOUT AMPS AND ANTENNA STUFF BUT
I HOPE YOU COULD HELP ME VIA EMAIL. THANKS,
SPANKIN IS OUTTA HERE.
HOPING TO BE A BIG BOY ONE DAY.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Dirk Diggler

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I Must say This NG is boring when there is no one talking about Dave Made
amps.

COLD as ICE

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In article <s49d3am...@corp.supernews.com>, "Mr. 137"
<ac137...@iwvisp.com> writes:

>BRAND SPANKIN' NEW wrote in message <81ov0c$751$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>>
>>> ask Ice cold how long it took him to get his amp 2 or 3 days hmm some
>>wait.
>>> Why do you think there is a wait because nobody wants them.
>>
>>COME ON CONCRETE, EVERYONE ON THIS NEWSGROUP KNOWS THAT ICECOLD IN NYC
>>HAS A VERY GOOD AND LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH DAVE AND PRIME MINISTER.
>>THAT IS WHY HE CAN GET HIS STUFF SO QUICKLY. I AM SAVING UP SOME MONEY
>>AND I WILL GET A DAVEMADE SOON. BECAUSE I AM QUITE SICK AND TIRED OF
>>HEARING ICECOLD IN NY GET HIS NAME CALLED ALL THE DAMN TIME.
>>NO OFFENSE COLD, YOU JUST DRIVE ME CRAZY OUT THERE ON THE SUPERBOWL.
>>
>
>
>Thats because ICE is a bad man. Whats up big "B"? Out here around the
>Valley of Death... I'm getting on down!!!

Once again thanks for all the props!!!
Hey am I really that close with dave and prime minister???
Hmmmm!!!!!!

Boba Fett

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yeah yeah yeah so I heard it before, icecold is a baad man. so what else is
new. I haven't been on the newgroup for a while but this is old news.
Anything new mr. brand spankin new?

BRAND SPANKIN' NEW wrote in message <826795$fq3$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <s49d3am...@corp.supernews.com>,


> "Mr. 137" <ac137...@iwvisp.com> wrote:
>> BRAND SPANKIN' NEW wrote in message <81ov0c$751$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> >
>> >> ask Ice cold how long it took him to get his amp 2 or 3 days hmm
>some
>> >wait.
>> >> Why do you think there is a wait because nobody wants them.
>> >
>> >COME ON CONCRETE, EVERYONE ON THIS NEWSGROUP KNOWS THAT ICECOLD IN
>NYC
>> >HAS A VERY GOOD AND LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH DAVE AND PRIME MINISTER.
>> >THAT IS WHY HE CAN GET HIS STUFF SO QUICKLY. I AM SAVING UP SOME
>MONEY
>> >AND I WILL GET A DAVEMADE SOON. BECAUSE I AM QUITE SICK AND TIRED OF
>> >HEARING ICECOLD IN NY GET HIS NAME CALLED ALL THE DAMN TIME.
>> >NO OFFENSE COLD, YOU JUST DRIVE ME CRAZY OUT THERE ON THE SUPERBOWL.
>> >
>>
>> Thats because ICE is a bad man. Whats up big "B"? Out here around
>the
>> Valley of Death... I'm getting on down!!!
>>
>>

Ezdrop123

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