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Scott (Unit 69)

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May 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/29/00
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Only if you put an artificial car under it. The K-40 is half the antenna.
The car is the other half. If you attach four 108" ground wires (radials)
to it and stretch them out, it could work acceptably.

Darrin wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I live in an apt., and putting up an outdoor antenna isn't an
> option. If I get a good mobile antenna like a K-40, will it work if I
> use it indoors? I just need an antenna option that will work
> decently.
>
> Thanx

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w5lz

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May 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/29/00
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Darrin,
Don't do that! It would be better to find an artificial
car. Gotta balcony, or windows that open? Set the antenna
on the balcony, or window sill. Drop a 108" wire from the
base of the antenna, out the window (acts as a ground).
Almost anything is better than the 'back of set' type antennas.
'Doc
PS - 'Course, you could find an artificial radio and antenna
to go on that artificial car...

Edd

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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I have been using a modulator bull whip on a mag mount on a biscuit tin for
over 5 years. Ok it is not great but I seem to do ok. Although I use FM UK
channels mainly, when I do use AM and SSB everything seems fine. It IS
possible to get a reasonable VSWR as well or you could buy a matcher!!
73's
Darrin <darr...@removethis.iname.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe I'll go to the junk yard and pick up an old hood. If I put it in
> my bedroom, nobody would notice. <G>

Richard Smith

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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Darrin,

Back in my younger days in the UK, I ran a DV-27 mounted in the centre of an
upturned biscuit tin in my bedroom. It worked quite well and SWR was not too
bad. My mom thought it looked ugly, but she let me keep it as it kept me out
of trouble !!

There is a Firestik indoor base antenna which includes ground plane radials
(Firestik IBA-5 I believe). I have also seen a President antenna that looks
like a satellite dish, but I have not tried either to comment. Also, there
are balcony antennas and even short groundplane-less antennas that look like
a vertical 4 foot rods.

Anybody else have any suggestions, as I am in a similar position with
antenna restrictions in my area ?

Richard.


Scott (Unit 69)

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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What I've done is to put the mag mount on a piece of tin, and solder four
radial wires to it at 90 degree angles. These radial wires should be about
108" long and optimally hanging at a 45 degree angle downward. String can
be used to hold these in place. I had one in an attic once. Talked over 15
miles with it. You could also put a 3/8 mount thru the tin and use a quarter
wave whip.

Darrin wrote:


>
> On Tue, 30 May 2000 08:52:17 +0100, "Edd"
> <may...@maycom.worldonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >I have been using a modulator bull whip on a mag mount on a biscuit tin for
> >over 5 years. Ok it is not great but I seem to do ok. Although I use FM UK
> >channels mainly, when I do use AM and SSB everything seems fine. It IS
> >possible to get a reasonable VSWR as well or you could buy a matcher!!
> >73's
>

> A mag mount with a biscuit tin. Sounds good to me. I'm gonna have fun
> trying this stuff out. <G>

w7...@arrl.nospam.net

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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In a previous article, Darrin <darr...@removethis.iname.com> writes:
>Hello,
> I live in an apt., and putting up an outdoor antenna isn't an
>option. If I get a good mobile antenna like a K-40, will it work if I
>use it indoors? I just need an antenna option that will work
>decently.
>
>Thanx

It will work indoors if you use radials or a counter-poise.


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Keeper of 7 Keys

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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Has anybody ever heard of a saturn antenna?Designed for apartment and mobile
home use.

w5lz

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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Darrin,
Oooo... Have it chrome plated, hang it over the bed...
Kinky!
'Doc

Bill Kerby

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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Try the wilson NG-4 no ground antenna !

Wm R Kerby

Richard Smith

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May 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/30/00
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I also remember a friend in the UK who mounted his mag mount antenna on his
mother's ironing board, another who had tinfoil spread over half of his loft
to create a ground plane, and an ingenious one who had his antenna stuck up
inside a disused chimney in his house !! None of these brilliant ideas
worked too well though, but they were good enough for us to help each other
out while doing our homework.

The things you do when having to operate "underground" !!

Richard.

John Doe

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Jun 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/3/00
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I have stuck my wilson on the bake oven door and it seemed to work just
fine. The swr was ok also. Next thing to a small car. plus its grounded all
through the house.


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Tonyonebone

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Jun 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/3/00
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I HAVE A RADIO SHACK GUTTER MONT ANTEENA ON MY BECONEA I AM IN APT BUILDING
ALSO AND IT WORK RELLY GOOD BUT I DO WANT ME A WILSON 5000 TO PUT ON MY CAR SO
I CAN TAKE THE 1000 AND PUT IT IN MY APARTMENT AND TALK TO THE WORLD

Starfish

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Jun 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/4/00
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There's no absolute need to have exactly 4 wires as a ground. You can
have as little as 1 or as many as you like. The more the better is the
general rule. If you have a carpet you could hide the wires under
that.

If you want to try something cheap and cheerful (definitely cheap).
Have a go at the inverted V that I mentioned in another post.

Get two lengths of wire, (about 109" long to be on the safe side).
Atach one to the inner part of the coax and the other to the outer
part of the coax, (I used to use the "chocolate bar" type of
electrical block connectors for that).

Fix the end of the coax high up the wall. Stretch out the two wires
and fix them to the wall so they look like an upside down V. The coax
should come straight down the middle.

Trim for best SWR by taking equal bits off of both ends between each
reading. (Don't cut too much at a time)

The only thing to remember is to make sure that the angle of the two
wires is not less than 90 degrees and not greater than 120 degrees.

Performance, in my experience, is as good as any mobile on a biscuit
tin.

That's what I used to use here in the UK during the good ol AM days.
It was the best alternative to an outside antenna although mine was up
in the loft.

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