modded Grant XL
Robert Joshua Chen
far as it would go. Now, the radio deadkeys at about 8 and swings to 14.5
when I whistle into the mic. I haven't done anything else besides
adjusting VR10 (haven't pulled R131 yet). Question is, are these numbers
about right? or should I not turn VR10 all the way?
Thanks,
-Big B
Andy
Having a dead key that high will kill your audio. You would be better served
to have a slightly lower dead key and keep that swing to 14 watts
Godd Luck
Not the "Real" Andy AMR 30
Scott (Unit 69)
Andy wrote:
>
> >Now, the radio deadkeys at about 8 and swings to 14.5
>
> Having a dead key that high will kill your audio. You would be better served
> to have a slightly lower dead key and keep that swing to 14 watts
> Godd Luck
"Godd Luck" to you too <-:
>
> Not the "Real" Andy AMR 30
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Jack
reset to 4 watts carrier!
LDD7777
13-14 watts.You will like the audio.Now put a D104 hand mike on it and
enjoy.1200......```!```
Jack Thurston
> "Robert, Hank, Dave and Tim
> The Uniden Grant XL will do 25 watts on AM and 30 watts on ssb with no parts in
> and no parts out"
> ???
Truck,
4 watts dead key
25 watts forward on am!
Jack
Truck39270
Mobile 51
John Jenkins
>What? On Sunday you said:
>"Robert, Hank, Dave and Tim
>The Uniden Grant XL will do 25 watts on AM and 30 watts on ssb with no parts in
>and no parts out"
The problem is, it will only do that for about 2 weeks.
JDDDJ
that output will kill your radio before the warranty expires.
Kinda like running the RPM in your car over red line...It will go there but,
how long will it last? Why is it someone pays so much for so little, modifies
it, then pays for repairs? If you're interested in high power, long distance
communications, why not just study for a ham ticket. 1500 watts is legal, you
learn about radios and electronics, and you don't have to deal with all the
"good buddy" nonsense. With a 2-watt handheld, I get over 2000 square miles of
coverage. Can't do that with 200 watts on CB.
Moral of the story: Keep it legal. It saves money, headaches, and possible
fines and confiscation of equipment.
LDD7777
Jack Thurston
I wouldn't have added my name to this
posting either. As usual, you decided
to dive in without getting all of the
facts! First of all, the posted figures,
except for dead key, are not rms. Allow
me to reiterate with a little more detail.
"The Grant XL will key 4 watts with
forward power to 25 watts pep on am /
30 watts pep on ssb". Everyone should
be feeling much better now. Again, this
involves neither removing or adding any
parts whatsoever! In addition, it will
operate like this forever, given a
properly matched antenna system and all
other things being equal. In the future,
before you jump in and begin flaming,
try and gather all of the facts first!
This will go a long way in preventing
you from appearing so foolish in the future.
Jack
p.s. next time, if you have a name, use it!
Jack Thurston
Just because someone is able to pass
the test and receive their ham ticket
doesn't mean they will ever learn anything,
as is evidenced by some of the "dribble"
posted by hams here in this newsgroup!
Anyone who can assimilate the information
contained in the study manuals and commit
it to memory can pass the test with ease.
Just because you memorize the "right answers"
to the questions in the pool doesn't mean
that you understand "why" this or that is
the correct answer. Thus, there are two
different types of hams, the ones who memorize
the correct answers with absolutely no clue
as to the underlying principles involved, and
those who take the time, either before or after
the test, to strive to understand why these "are
the correct answers" to begin with. My point
here being that simple memorization techniques
do not convey any understanding as to why a
certain answer is correct! Needless to say,
there appears to be an abundance of licensed
amateurs in the former of the two categories
listed above, which to some of us comes as no
surprise! Are we to understand that you are
a licensed amateur operator? 'nuff said!
Jack
Train
JDDDJ wrote in message <19990819164854...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
The "Good Buddy" forgot to mention that 2 meter is overflowing with assholes
much like Ch.19 on the CB.
I guess we know what he has in the other hand as he holds his handheld and
is spreading over those 2000 square miles
Train
Jack Thurston
Specifications for the 2SC1969
Rf transistor: 21 - 30 mhz
Device cw pi cw po pep gpe/db. Ic/cont.
2SC1969 1.0 16/22 12 6a
the operating voltage isn't specified, but I believe
12 - 12.5 Vdc is about right!
Grant XL Driver = 2SC2166
Final = 2SC1969
On the face it appears as though we are
about 8 watts short of my claims, but...
change Vdc to 13.8 - 14.4
The 2SC2166 in this circuit
is providing more than 1 watt
of drive to the final! As a
matter of fact, the driver is
capable of producing 5 watts cw
or 7.5 watts pep!
Jack
Train
Gary Danaher wrote in message <37BC9AB8...@flash.net>...
>Train should know all about ass holes. Just needs a mirror. Two meters
>is quiet.
Gary Danaher
Shitface
And that same final transistor is rated for 25 watts of input!!!
And you also forgot to mention that the transistor must be operated in Class
C mode for the CW figures!
--Shitface
Jack Thurston <fir...@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
news:37BC89...@cybertrails.com...
JDDDJ
>is spreading over those 2000 square miles
I guess we do. Can you breathe? Shall I let you come up for air?
Jack Thurston
Since you are still on the road
to "discovery", you might want to
clean up your spelling and grammar.
In addition, since this thread was
directed to JDDDJ, no response from
you is required. The content of your
response certainly bears this out!
Jack
Web Site:
Sharon Sherwood
ldd...@aol.com (LDD7777) wrote:
OH YEAH and if you take that advice why not for get about your car insurance and go by the
biggest RF amplifier you can get to stick in line with that radio, and plop your but on channel
six. and splater across the band just like the reast of them.
P.S. Don't forget to whistle ever 10 to 5 minutes, JUST! to make sure nothing has happened to your
rig in between you not talking.
That's what I bought my radio for was to cause as much adjacent channel interferance as possible.
How about just turn up the wattage to 5 watts get a D104 and be happy.
Sharon Sherwood
truck...@aol.com (Truck39270) wrote:
>>Kiss that 2SC1419 Pass Regulator Goodbye!
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> reset to 4 watts carrier!
>>
>
>What? On Sunday you said:
>"Robert, Hank, Dave and Tim
>The Uniden Grant XL will do 25 watts on AM and 30 watts on ssb with no parts in
>and no parts out"
>???
Yeah let me guess on your Dosy, or paradynamics, or even better yet midland wattmeter, that you
so concictently preciesly calibrate on a regularly monthly basis. \\//\\//hatever!
Sharon Sherwood
jd...@aol.communist (JDDDJ) wrote:
>>On 18 Aug 1999 02:25:04 GMT, truck...@aol.com (Truck39270) wrote:
>>
>>>What? On Sunday you said:
>>>"Robert, Hank, Dave and Tim
>>>The Uniden Grant XL will do 25 watts on AM and 30 watts on ssb with no parts
>>in
>>>and no parts out"
>>
>>The problem is, it will only do that for about 2 weeks.
>>
>The transisters aren't made for that type of RMS abuse. Even 25% duty cycle at
>that output will kill your radio before the warranty expires.
>Kinda like running the RPM in your car over red line...It will go there but,
>how long will it last? Why is it someone pays so much for so little, modifies
>it, then pays for repairs? If you're interested in high power, long distance
>communications, why not just study for a ham ticket. 1500 watts is legal, you
>learn about radios and electronics, and you don't have to deal with all the
>"good buddy" nonsense.
Shoot listen to the ham bands theres alot that don't know much about their radio equipment.
>With a 2-watt handheld, I get over 2000 square miles of
>coverage. Can't do that with 200 watts on CB.
>Moral of the story: Keep it legal. It saves money, headaches, and possible
>fines and confiscation of equipment.
Average Inbread CB operators response: Fisssst*! Does not compute! ACK FIST!
Sharon Sherwood
Jack Thurston <fir...@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>That's okay,
>
> I wouldn't have added my name to this
>posting either. As usual, you decided
>to dive in without getting all of the
>facts! First of all, the posted figures,
>except for dead key, are not rms. Allow
>me to reiterate with a little more detail.
>
> "The Grant XL will key 4 watts with
>forward power to 25 watts pep on am /
>30 watts pep on ssb". Everyone should
>be feeling much better now. Again, this
>involves neither removing or adding any
>parts whatsoever!
I beg to differ Stock radio out of the box 4 watts. Audio chip 4 to 6 watts. Superimposed
signals approx. 10 Watts maybe of amplitue modulation power. AMC circuts limit the audio input
and clipping. Now tell me how without removing or adding any parts will do this. Oh did you for
get to say adjusting components? Oh yeah and these measurements are done on a bird meter right?
And the standards you used for measurments are traceable to NIST right? Now are these
measurements done with a resistive load or Inductive/capacitance reactance load?
>In addition, it will
>operate like this forever, given a
>properly matched antenna system and all
>other things being equal. In the future,
>before you jump in and begin flaming,
>try and gather all of the facts first!
> This will go a long way in preventing
>you from appearing so foolish in the future.
>
> Jack
>
>p.s. next time, if you have a name, use it!
>
"One that acts as if they know it all, tend to look foolish. For I do not know it all, and have
yet to comprehend the vast knoledge that is yet to discovered."
PLLO2A
must be one of those ARRL comunists.
the grants were designed by timex, takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.
obviously you never had one so i doubt you know what you're talking about.
as far as a 2000 mile mile coverage on a 2 watt handheld, try harder next time
not to mislead and maybe include the more-than-2-watt, high ground hight
antenna repeaters that you use so that some poor cb'er doesn't get sucked into
studying for his ticket, buying a handy for a good chunk of change and gets the
disapointment of his life when he finds out that he, in most cases has to join
a club and / or has to pay a monthly fee to use these repeaters which may or
may not work anytime he wants or needs it and if he doesn't pay, he won't get
across the street on it.
give me my HR-2510 and my 200 watt on ssb linear any day and i'll show you 2000
square mile coverage and if it doesn't work, i'll know when, where and why.
nothing protects against a lighting strike like unplugging the antenna. who in
your club goes up and unplugs your repeater when an unexpected storm blow up to
it's QTH?
one hit and your repeater means nothing.
jeff
RHOOLIGAN2
every time i keyed up to call in, i would open the garage door on the house
that i was standing in front of at the time.
i also had an HR-2510 that would open the automatic doors on stores that were
open when i keyed up on my 200 watt amp.>>
<<give me my HR-2510 and my 200 watt on ssb linear any day and i'll show you
2000
square mile coverage and if it doesn't work, i'll know when, where and why.>>
Not only causing interference, but PROUDLY causing
interference. Yessiree. And there's a lot more like him.
This is why the Ehlers Bill was introduced.
MR-ASS
out trying to prove something to someone. If you are going to try to look
intelligent, You first need to act intelligent. I bet your a proud member of
the ARRL. Nothing wrong with that BUT dont let the paper go to your head,
You must be from the Dallas area.
MR-ASS
And I say SSSSUCK IT!!!!
Sharon Sherwood wrote in message <7pqmb0$f...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>...
The Landshark
Ahhh McCarthyism alive and well in the scared
little people of the world. Boy next they'll
be coming after you're shotguns to protect
the innocent birds......
The Landshark
--
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live. But you haven't done
either till you've been on a Buell"
98 S3 Thunderbolt powered
83 Honda 1100F
99 F150 Supercab for Antenna platform
July 26, 8:11am. 1999 8lbs 11 oz.
Stephanie Beverly is here
Jack Thurston
Your question has already been
answered. That posting has already
expired from this thread. Pay
closer attention next time! I'm
not in the habit of repeating
myself........
Jack
Sharon Sherwood
pll...@aol.com (PLLO2A) wrote:
>aol.comunist???
>must be one of those ARRL comunists.
>the grants were designed by timex, takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.
>obviously you never had one so i doubt you know what you're talking about.
>as far as a 2000 mile mile coverage on a 2 watt handheld, try harder next time
>not to mislead and maybe include the more-than-2-watt, high ground hight
>antenna repeaters that you use so that some poor cb'er doesn't get sucked into
>studying for his ticket, buying a handy for a good chunk of change and gets the
>disapointment of his life when he finds out that he, in most cases has to join
>a club and / or has to pay a monthly fee to use these repeaters which may or
>may not work anytime he wants or needs it and if he doesn't pay, he won't get
>across the street on it.
>give me my HR-2510 and my 200 watt on ssb linear any day and i'll show you 2000
>square mile coverage and if it doesn't work, i'll know when, where and why.
>nothing protects against a lighting strike like unplugging the antenna. who in
>your club goes up and unplugs your repeater when an unexpected storm blow up to
>it's QTH?
>one hit and your repeater means nothing.
> jeff
>
Uh Uhmm, Pssst jeff, hey jeff, try leaving some type of reference as to who your comments are
directed. It just helps to know you are barking at. This is not a flame, just a handy reminder.
Jack Thurston
So you don't know how
to do it!........too bad!
Let me rephrase that:
I can get 25 watts out of the
Uniden Grant XL on am,
and I can get 30 watts out on
ssb!
Jack
You said, "with nothing done to it".
(the above is a misquote)
I said, "without adding or removing
any parts"!
"Just because you can't do it,
that doesn't mean that no one else can!
Jack
Sharon Sherwood
Jack Thurston <fir...@cybertrails.com> wrote:
Let me make my self A little clearer A Uniden Grant XL. Will NOT put out 25 Watts pep. Out the
box, with nothing done to it.
I do Owe you an apoligy seems I looked back over the postings and... It seems I copied and
pasted a little of your verbage. Heres the original post.
In article <19990817222504...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,
truck...@aol.com (Truck39270) wrote:
>>Kiss that 2SC1419 Pass Regulator Goodbye!
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> reset to 4 watts carrier!
It wasntthe above mentioned I was referring to. It was the comment below.
>What? On Sunday you said:
>"Robert, Hank, Dave and Tim
>The Uniden Grant XL will do 25 watts on AM and 30 watts on ssb with no parts in
>and no parts out"
PLLO2A
if you would have wiped the ARRL shit out of your eyes and read that post and
not taken part of it out of context, you would have seen that it was not done
PROUDLY but injected into a response, as a response about rf interference and
harmonics. try and keep up with the topic please and not twist everything to
fir the ARRL mold, (read-moldy).
also please tell us all about the ham i responded to 3 days ago about the
illegalities of wanting to convert his vhf equipment over to frs freqs as
posted on rec.radio.amateur.
and by the way, while you're tracking things, would you come to west central
fla and track the ham who is bleeding into our local cable system??? the cable
co came out and check the lines, grounds and shielding and declared all on
their end to be solid.
thanks in advance
in retrospect, lick your lips
jeff
PLLO2A
but thanks just the same. :):):)
jeff
P.S.
when i inject things into these arguements, i click on the line, then click on
list, then i click on right message and read them in order.
:):):)
Dave Hall
The MOST that I've seen out of ANY stock, part 95 legal CB radio,
"without adding or removing any parts", is about 23 watts PEP SSB on a
BIRD meter into a 50 ohm dummy load. Typically, radios like the Grant
fall into the 18 - 20 watt PEP SSB range depending on the gain of the
power transistors. I have seen higher power shown on "bargain"
wattmeters, and those used on antennas which may have enough reflective
power, or reactive components, as to skew the accuracy of their
readings. If you are not using a resistive dummy load, you are only
kidding yourself if you think your power readings are accurate.
AM peak power will generally fall close to the maximum SSB peak power.
If your dead key carrier is more than 1/4 of the peak reading, you are
losing modulation power. On a 20 watt peak radio, the carrier should not
be more than 5 watts.
Besides, the difference between 20 watts and 30 is almost meaningless
and cannot be easily seen on a signal meter.
Dave
"Sandbagger"
Dave Hall
> and by the way, while you're tracking things, would you come to west central
> fla and track the ham who is bleeding into our local cable system??? the cable
> co came out and check the lines, grounds and shielding and declared all on
> their end to be solid.
> thanks in advance
> in retrospect, lick your lips
> jeff
CATV interference from ham radios is generally limited to a few channels
(channel 18 from 2 meters, channel 24 from 220, and 61 from 440). The
cause is almost ALWAYS due to a lack of shielding which allows the
radiated signal to enter the cable environment. It is the cable
company's responsibility to maintain the integrity of their system. If
ham signals are getting into the system, then it also means that the
cable signals can leak out. The FCC has strict rules about how much a
cable system can "radiate", and they require frequent tests be done to
ensure compliance. If a ham is causing enough interference that you
cannot watch the picture, then there IS a problem in the cable system,
the cable company just hasn't found it yet. Tell them to keep trying. It
would also be helpful if the ham was transmitting when they did their
"checks".
Dave
"Sandbagger"
Hank Aaron
I know how to make a HR-2510 do 78 PEP watts (on AM!!!) without removing
or adding any parts..... Wouldn't you like to know how!!
I hear a song come to mind.... oh yeah... "Hit the road Jack, and dont you
come back, no more, no more, no more, no more!, etc..."
See Jack, I could say all day long that I can make a radio do this or that.
I have a question....... actually... of that 25 watts... how much of it is
of harmonics? How much is actually on freq. my friend.... Just curious
now... but, I assume you will just say something like "just because you dont
know how to do it, that doesn't mean you have to doubt that I can, blah,
blah, blah". We'll keep bragging, its healthy. I asked for proof, but you
said the proof isn't free... You know what I say to that Jack.. I say
bullshit. Good bye.
Hank
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