Ham Misbehavior
www.TimNebo.com
is going on in rec.radio.shortwave right now discussing renegade ham's that are
breaking the laws and causing havoc on the hf bands. maybe jerry should write a
letter to riley himself about this.
Tim Nebo
Jim Hampton
some of the posts in this newsgroup, I think you already knew that ;)
73 from Rochester, NY
Jim
"www.TimNebo.com" <tim...@aol.com187> wrote in message
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Richard McCollum
So what is your point, Tim? I can think of several.
1) They do it so I can, too. Seems silly but you have pushed this before.
2) Get off my case 'cause you're making me feel bad.
3) Give a guy a mike and some will act like bozos.
Let us hear the philosophy ring forth.
Dick NØBK
www.TimNebo.com
anybody else tirading about the amatuer bands and on there newsgroups
complaining and these problems are even more directly related to the service
there fighting for. i just wanted to point out the hypocrisy in what there
doing in here and also it was because aaron keeps denying the fact that there
is any problems on the hf bands at all and has demanded several times lately
that one of us cb'ers prove that it actaully happening. well here is his proof
directly from rec.radio.shortwave
>
>So what is your point, Tim? I can think of several.
>
>1) They do it so I can, too. Seems silly but you have pushed this before.
>
>2) Get off my case 'cause you're making me feel bad.
>
>3) Give a guy a mike and some will act like bozos.
>
>Let us hear the philosophy ring forth.
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>Dick NØBK
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Tim Nebo
Aaron H. Voobner
Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2002 5:04 AM
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"www.TimNebo.com" <tim...@aol.com187> wrote in message
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> aaron you and jerry need to take a look at the thread intitled "3868
LSB" that
> is going on in rec.radio.shortwave right now discussing renegade ham's
that are
> breaking the laws and causing havoc on the hf bands. maybe jerry should
write a
> letter to riley himself about this.
>
>
>
> Tim Nebo
>
> http://www.TimNebo.com
>
>
So what is your point, Tim? I can think of several.
1) They do it so I can, too. Seems silly but you have pushed this before.
2) Get off my case 'cause you're making me feel bad.
3) Give a guy a mike and some will act like bozos.
Fair analysis, Dick.
-Aaron-
www.TimNebo.com
amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only when there
is so much more going on. after all the guys on the ham bands are making our
entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest concern is
still truckers with small amps driving up an down the highway. aaron you asked
for proof of "current torubles on the hf bands" and here it is. dont try to
wiesel out of it now. be a man and admitt it really is going on and theres
nothing you can do about any of it.
>So what is your point, Tim? I can think of several.
>-Aaron-
Tim Nebo
Aaron H. Voobner
>Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2002 11:22 AM
>Message-id: <20020819142245...@mb-cl.aol.com>
>
>i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the
world
>wide
>amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only
when
>there
>is so much more going on. after all the guys on the ham bands are
making
>our
>entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest
concern
>is
>still truckers with small amps driving up an down the highway. aaron
you
>asked
>for proof of "current torubles on the hf bands" and here it is. dont
try
>to
>wiesel out of it now. be a man and admitt it really is going on and
theres
>nothing you can do about any of it.
First of all, Tim, I never said there weren't any problems on the ham
bands. I asked for proof that a certain frequency on 20 meters was
currently being abused. It wasn't. That's because the violators who
abused it in the past got penalized by the FCC. If you read the FCC
enforcement logs you will see that problems do get dealt with. Often
it takes time, but it happens, and it has nothing to do with me or my
posting in this NG. It happens because the majority of hams don't want
their bands to become an unusable mess. BTW, I notice you seem to be
a "fan" of HF trouble spots, i.e. you know just what frequencies to be
on. Interesting...
-Aaron-
Twistedhed
wide amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only
when there is so much more going on. after all the guys on the ham bands
are making our entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet
your biggest concern is still truckers with small amps driving up an
down the highway. aaron you asked for proof of "current torubles on the
hf bands" and here it is. dont try to wiesel out of it now. be a man and
admitt it really is going on and theres nothing you can do about any of
it.<
<<
Accurate analysis, Tim.
www.TimNebo.com
thats just another lie by you.
>First of all, Tim, I never said there weren't any problems on the ham
>bands. I asked for proof that a certain frequency on 20 meters was
>currently being abused. It wasn't. That's because the violators who
>abused it in the past got penalized by the FCC.
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
group to be right up to date on all the hot spots like the am'ers on 75 meters
out on the west coast that keep jamming the ssb'ers. its alot of fun to hear
the guys go at it.
>
>their bands to become an unusable mess. BTW, I notice you seem to be
>a "fan" of HF trouble spots, i.e. you know just what frequencies to be
>on. Interesting...
>
>-Aaron-
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Tim Nebo
Aaron H. Voobner
>Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2002 3:33 PM
>Message-id: <20020819183343...@mb-bg.aol.com>
>
>not true aaron the 20 meter freq in question is 14.313 and it has not
changed!
Give us some callsigns of who you hear, Tim, it might make your case
more believable.
-A
www.TimNebo.com
going on but you! how clueless can you be? please tell me your just being
difficult for being difficults sake and not that your so out of touch with
reality that you dont even know whats happening
>Give us some callsigns of who you hear, Tim, it might make your case
>more believable.
>
>-A
Tim Nebo
Aaron H. Voobner
>
>everybody in the entire radio active world knows
>it is going on but you!
If you are radio active on 14.313, do let us know times (UTC) when
you're on. As Tom Sevart says, there's no law against listening to
(and making recordings of) pirates....
-Aaron-
Me
every 10 minutes as required? And if so did you catch any callsigns?
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"www.TimNebo.com" <tim...@aol.com187> wrote in message
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r.r.c.b.auto*responder-V3.1
"Aaron H. Voobner" <ahvo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Wringing you're filthy little troll hands, in anticipation there Voob?
Got your filthy troll finger poised on the REC. Button?
Hee Hee Hee Hah!
www.TimNebo.com
www.TimNebo.com
actually ID themselves as you already know but surely THEY MUST BE HAMS because
they are using modified ham gear just as you guys assume and claim all the
voices on 10 meters are cb'ers since there using modified cb radios. the same
logic is valid. is it not?
>Tim a couple of quick questions, were these hams IDing
>every 10 minutes as required? And if so did you catch any callsigns?
Tim Nebo
Aaron H. Voobner
>Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2002 6:48 PM
>Message-id: <20020819214836...@mb-fe.aol.com>
>
>i listen off and on thru out the entire day
What antenna system are you using for 75/40/20 meters, Tim?
-Aaron-
www.TimNebo.com
>
>What antenna system are you using for 75/40/20 meters, Tim?
>
>-Aaron-
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Tim Nebo
Aaron H. Voobner
>Aaron Voobner wrote
>>What antenna system are you using for 75/40/20 meters, Tim?
>
>an alpha delta sloper, yourself?
Yep, that'd load up on 14.313 and 3.950. I was wondering what the
unlicensed bootleggers used on HF, and now I know.
-Aaron-
Jerry Oxendine
> no most of the times the guys playing music and belching on the air dont
> actually ID themselves as you already know but surely THEY MUST BE HAMS
because
> they are using modified ham gear just as you guys assume and claim all the
> voices on 10 meters are cb'ers since there using modified cb radios. the
same
> logic is valid. is it not?
>
allowed even to hams
on 28.085.
2) Most ham radios don't "squeak" when the mike is keyed.
3) Most ham radios have no echo.
4) AM is allowed on 10 Meters only up around 29.000 MHZ
5) When you hear "Tan-fer thar, Driver! I 'hy'eered that 'ere, ah
did", it's a pretty good
assumption that it is a Trucker. When it talks like a trucker,
echos like a trucker, squeaks
like a trucker, it must be
a......................................................trucker!!!
Jerry
Jerry Oxendine
> sure am, all i have to do is read rec.radio.shortwave and the trash misc
ham
> group to be right up to date on all the hot spots like the am'ers on 75
meters
> out on the west coast that keep jamming the ssb'ers. its alot of fun to
hear
> the guys go at it.
Those are "turf" wars that don't need to go on. It is caused by immature,
fire-hydrant-pissing
mental midgets that think that "their" frequency should be populated only by
them. It is a simply
matter for the SSBers to move down a few KCs. The AMers only have a few
places to operate on that mode. Control freaks abound everywhere, and the
SSBers could simply move a ways.
But NOOOOOOOO. Everybody's gotta defend their "turf"/
Jerry
www.TimNebo.com
>Yep, that'd load up on 14.313 and 3.950. I was wondering what the
>unlicensed bootleggers used on HF, and now I know.
>
>-Aaron-
Tim Nebo
JJ
Jerry Oxendine wrote:
>
> 4) AM is allowed on 10 Meters only up around 29.000 MHZ
Actually AM is allowed below 29 Mhz, it is just that the AMers
usually stay at 29 and above, I have head them, but rarely, below
29. However if you hear AM signals below 29 Mhz the chances are
good it is a cber operating out of band. You will know as soon as
he opens his mouth or unkeys and you hear the roger beeps, fart
noises, rooster crowing, and other noises they like.
tools
Dave Hall
>
> i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the world wide
> amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only when there
> is so much more going on.
The amount of problem on the ham bands are but a small minority of
people. Compared to the CB band where breaking the law is the "rule"
rather than the exception.
> after all the guys on the ham bands are making our
> entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest concern is
> still truckers with small amps driving up an down the highway.
After the last skip cycle, the whole world got a taste of USA CB. I'm
sure that that was not an image that I would want the world to picture
us as.
> aaron you asked
> for proof of "current torubles on the hf bands" and here it is. dont try to
> wiesel out of it now. be a man and admitt it really is going on and theres
> nothing you can do about any of it.
That's what Riley H. is being tasked to do. It's HIS job to clean up the
ham bands. Why? Because he was ASKED to by hams who are fed up with
people who can't play by the rules. He has already been effective in
many cases. Hopefully, with enough noise about misuses on the CB band
being funneled to the FCC, they may assign the equivilent of Riley H. to
do the same thing here.
Dave
"Sandbagger"
www.TimNebo.com
its hard to tell from there post here, if you went by there attitude alone
you'd think they made 100k a year being cb cops
>That's what Riley H. is being tasked to do. It's HIS job to clean up the
>ham bands.
Tim Nebo
Twistedhed
i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the world
wide amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only
when there is so much more going on.
>The amount of problem on the ham bands are but a small minority of
people. Compared to the CB band where breaking the law is the "rule"
rather than the exception.<<
Opinions are like ........., this one stinks and shows you can not only
not mask your disdain for cbers but go out of your way to antagonize and
let your hate be known...repeatedly. Seek within and you will find the
source.
Tim continued with: "after all the guys on the ham bands are making our
entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest
concern is still truckers with small amps driving up an down the
highway. "
>After the last skip cycle, the whole world got a taste of USA CB. I'm
sure that that was not an image that I would want the world to picture
us as. <<
(Sigh) The whole world has had not only a taste but a plateful of an
image not aesthetically pleasing long before this last skip cycle, and
it was brought to them courtesy of Hammie USA,,..yourself a fine example
of what I speak...prejudice for no apparent reason and anxious to share
it with whoever will lend an ear.
Sharing the knowledge that you recently became aware of what a high
magnitude of a skip cycle can do, especially the present one, doesn't
mean the rest of the world shared your recent revelation at the same
time you experienced it. Many of us have experienced several cycles.
Judging by your astonishment concerning the skip cycle, you probably
won;'t find the next one as fascinating as your first, but you can still
have fun with it.
Tim related: "aaron you asked
for proof of "current torubles on the hf bands" and here it is. dont try
to wiesel out of it now. be a man and admitt it really is going on and
theres nothing you can do about any of it."
Dave
"Sandbagger"
JJ
JJ
not interfere with other services. The whole argument here is that
it is not confined to the cb band. The overdriven, overpowered,
splatter boxes cause other interference, and the encroachment into
other frequencies by unlicensed operators, such as the 10 meter
band with their imported "10 meter" radios, which we all know are
aimed at the cb crowd, is the issue. That is what we want cleaned
up.
Randy
"JJ" <radio...@mailcity.net> wrote in message
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> Who cares what the idiots do on the cb band do as long as they do
> not interfere with other services. The whole argument here is that
> it is not confined to the cb band. The overdriven, overpowered,
> splatter boxes cause other interference, and the encroachment into
> other frequencies by unlicensed operators, such as the 10 meter
> band with their imported "10 meter" radios, which we all know are
> aimed at the cb crowd, is the issue. That is what we want cleaned
> up.
JJ, after 9/11/01, I think you are wishing upon a star here. That, coupled
with the "tax cut", and imminent problems with Iraq, make your wish seem
rather shortsighted. Please don't hold your breath.
'Doc
Jerry,
'AM' is allowed anywhere in the voice portions of
all amateur bands, subject to band edge qualifications.
'Doc
PS - I wish it weren't, but it is.
Twistedhed
interfere with other services. The whole argument here is that it is not
confined to the cb band.
<<
First off, I don't see it as an argument. A point must first be raised
for an argment to be presented. As you claim, as long as they don't
interfere with the other services, "Who cares"? Some appear to be under
the influence of the mistaken thought that those who do frequent this
forum are hammie intruders and that raising an "argument" here and now
will end your argument.
>The overdriven, overpowered, splatter boxes cause other interference,
and the encroachment into other frequencies by unlicensed operators, <<
I'd be happy to discuss either, but you are blending 2 separate subjects
with dire attempted inferences.
>such as the 10 meter band with their imported "10 meter" radios, which
we all know are aimed at the cb crowd, is the issue. That is what we
want cleaned up.<<
And no one has a problem with that, nor have I ever seen anyone on this
group ever disagree with that..so why does it continue to be addressed
here? Letting off steam....?....simply say so. S' cool! You agree with
murder?
You want murder cleaned up?
Are you lobbying against guns? Knives? Baseball bats? How about drugs?
You want drugs gone, or just illegal drugs gone? You think it's a
coincidence heroin is enjoying such resurgence? It ain't civilians
bringing it in. You lobbying against any of that? Excuse me if I make
light of the alleged priorities of some of our cb detractors.
Twistedhed
immature, fire-hydrant-pissing
mental midgets that think that "their" frequency should be populated
only by them. It is a simply matter for the SSBers to move down a few
KCs. The AMers only have a few places to operate on that mode. Control
freaks abound everywhere, and the SSBers could simply move a ways.
But NOOOOOOOO. Everybody's gotta defend their "turf"/
Jerry<<
Are the SSBers legal there? If they are, then the right to bitch is
about as valid as it is on triple 5.
chessecutter
so mr chapman are you saying that uncle charlie is going to run out of
gas before he reaches the finish line????....aw , my heart is breaking
here...bureaucrats with no money and no mission.........man it is
enough to make you want to go get some autographed crying towels and
send them to our poor fcc bretheren.....
Randy
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LOL!!
Randy
<Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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Touché
JJ
Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com wrote:
>
> JJ <radio...@mailcity.net> wrote:
> >>there = their
> >
> Thanks for the tip,fuck nut.
No problem, always glad to help someone who apparently does not
know the proper word to use. It is simple English but seems to be
beyond some people.
Me
<Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
> Thanks for the tip,fuck nut.
That would be "tip, fucknut!"
Randy
"Me" <who...@you.com> wrote in message
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OMG! George takes a stab at punctuation! This IS some funny shit! I knew I
liked this group for a reason.
Me
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> > > Thanks for the tip,fuck nut.
> >>That would be "tip, fucknut!"
> I'm not talking about the tip that ticlkes your throat.
As your buddy Landshark would say you can't post without including some
sexual innuendos. Btw, Your the one who was thanking the guy for the tip is
that the same tip that tickles your throat? LOL
JJ
Me wrote:
>
> <Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
> > Thanks for the tip,fuck nut.
>
> That would be "tip, fucknut!"
LOL!!
Landshark
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> "Me" <who...@you.com> wrote:
> > <Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:20020820232525.744$G...@newsreader.com...
> >
> > > > > Thanks for the tip,fuck nut.
> >
> > > >>That would be "tip, fucknut!"
> >
> > > I'm not talking about the tip that ticlkes your throat.
> >
> >>As your buddy Landshark
> >
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As usual, George is talking about me, and I
never even said anything in this thread about him.
Landshark
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"BAD CITIZENS HAVE MORE FUN BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE FREE"
Keith Hosman
"www.TimNebo.com" <tim...@aol.com187> wrote in message
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> my point is why only bother the cb'ers? i dont see jerry, aaron, frank or
> anybody else tirading about the amatuer bands and on there newsgroups
> complaining and these problems are even more directly related to the
service
> there fighting for. i just wanted to point out the hypocrisy in what there
> doing in here and also it was because aaron keeps denying the fact that
there
> is any problems on the hf bands at all and has demanded several times
lately
> that one of us cb'ers prove that it actaully happening. well here is his
proof
> directly from rec.radio.shortwave
>
Tim I agree that there are problem areas on the amateur bands, take a look
at the idiots involved in the flamwar on the amateur usenet groups, it is a
continuation of what goes on on some HF freqs. There are good and bad
operators in amateur, and on CB. That being said, that still doesn't justify
either group doing wrong. For example all of these kidnapping incedents
going on in the last few months, seeing these things happen, does that
justify someone else doing it? Or the school shootings, does one make
another one right?
A long time ago when I came to this group I saw the start of the batle
between N8WWM and the rest start, I agree with Doug and his group about
legal operations, but at the same time I said I disagreed with his tactics,
spam and flooding usenet was disruptive. I have met Doug and talked to him
in person several times, he's actually a really decent guy with alot of
knowledge that he was willing to share with me regarding antenna design ect.
What I am saying is two wrongs do not make a right (but three lefts do (if
you figure this one out let me know heheh)).
Nothing would make me happier than to see this group return to an actual
discussion group where we can exchange information on radio operation,
problem solving ect. without all the flamefests.
Yes I am a licensed ham, and yes I also enjoy talking on CB, I run legal
equipment, when I am on CB I leave my ticket on the wall, when I am on my
amateur radio I leave my cb language in the drawer.
I am not better than anyone else, I make mistakes, and will until the day I
die. And if you see me make a mistake, let me know, so I don't make it
again.
If any of you are ever in the area drop me a line and we can go have a
coffee.
73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ
American Red Cross - Disaster Services
Board Member - Henry County Chapter American Red Cross
Health and Safety Services Instructor - Henry County Chapter American Red
Cross
Vice President: REACT of Henry County
Twistedhed
look at the idiots involved in the flamwar on the amateur usenet groups,
it is a continuation of what goes on on some HF freqs. There are good
and bad operators in amateur, and on CB. That being said, that still
doesn't justify either group doing wrong. For example all of these
kidnapping incedents going on in the last few months, seeing these
things happen, does that justify someone else doing it? Or the school
shootings, does one make another one right?
A long time ago when I came to this group I saw the start of the batle
between N8WWM and the rest start, I agree with Doug and his group about
legal operations, but at the same time I said I disagreed with his
tactics, spam and flooding usenet was disruptive. I have met Doug and
talked to him in person several times, he's actually a really decent guy
with alot of knowledge
<<
(snip)
First of all, with you being here from the beginning when Doug came in
here and threatened many, accused many of the most perverted sexual
things, talked disgustingly about sexual innuendo, spammed the hell out
of the group, made almost every post about "fag" this and 'Suck this"
and talked about peoples race, children, wives, all in lewd manners to
those who have done nothing to him except correct his lies and teach him
some net etiquette.....and to sit here and say you actually MET him, and
that he is a nice guy.........well, Keith, you and I certailny have had
disagreements before, certainly nothing we couldn't get past, but for
someone to even go meet this guy after what he had done and said,
certainly gives pause for the cause.
Defending N8.....I've seen it all now. I still have an email from you
that you tried to mask when you first appeared (The "Cletus" ping
screwed you). I kinda thought you were sympathetic to his assholeness at
that time, but wasn't certain...now I am. Wanna see it reposted here so
all can enjoy it? How about the one where you claimed you were no
nowhere near the county I mentioned in my email when corresponding with
city and county officials? I still have that one as well.
With all the shit you talked about morals and civility and decency on
the air, would you enjoy your wife or kids getting a boatload of
chickenhawk's email?
You yourself have used that analogy
conerning behavior on the air, but you apparently "got past it" wth
Doug's antics that are preserved here in the archives for posterity for
all to enjoy.
To actually go and meet this guy from what he posts here makes me
wonder about you Keith, but that more than likely isn't the scenario,
now is it? The rest of the story doesn't even matter to me....the mere
fact that you are here trying to charm us with relegations of whatta
good guy N8 is, well,,,kinda speaks for itself.
> 73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ
American Red Cross - Disaster Services
Board Member - Henry County Chapter American Red Cross Health and Safety
Services Instructor - Henry County Chapter American Red Cross
Vice President: REACT of Henry County<<
Good luck, Keith.
I hope your defense of this cancerous lesion to radio doesn't affect
your judgement anymore than it already has. At best, when defending such
bowel, you may wish to drop your sigs (just a suggestion), as your
defense of this plague coupled with a few of his posts sent to the
organizations you profess in your sig may damage your credibility a bit
more than your simple post way back when you AND Doug were funning
around on the board. Don't shoot the messenger, the AKC are the ones
that began this tactic, remember? Sending shit to peoples employers,
crying to ebay, anything they can to harass innocent cbers that made
Doug look like the archaic, confused, eunich he became by his own hand.
I believe in returning things t their rightful owners. You have a hell
of a way of choosing friends, Keith. Anyone who would hang with this
sick bastard I certainly wouldn't want to be depending on during a time
of crisis. You wanna defend this slug, do it on a hammie board. He has
no fans here, except the ones that were driven underground...plus one.
Richard Cranium
> tim...@aol.com187 (www.TimNebo.com) wrote
> >Aaron Voobner wrote
> >>What antenna system are you using for 75/40/20 meters, Tim?
> >
> >an alpha delta sloper, yourself?
> Yep, that'd load up on 14.313 and 3.950. I was wondering what the
> unlicensed bootleggers used on HF, and now I know.
>
> -Aaron-
You don't know any more than you did before, Aanal Aaron. I suspect
most "unlicensed bootleggers" (sic - that's redundant) use dipoles,
same as most amateurs.
The Alpha Delta sloper is a trap antenna, tuned for the international
broadcasting bands; it probably would not work very well on 14313 or
3950.
Keith Hosman
"Twistedhed" <twist...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:16932-3D...@storefull-2316.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> Good luck, Keith.
> I hope your defense of this cancerous lesion to radio doesn't affect
> your judgement anymore than it already has. At best, when defending such
> bowel, you may wish to drop your sigs (just a suggestion), as your
> defense of this plague coupled with a few of his posts sent to the
> organizations you profess in your sig may damage your credibility a bit
> more than your simple post way back when you AND Doug were funning
> around on the board. Don't shoot the messenger, the AKC are the ones
> that began this tactic, remember? Sending shit to peoples employers,
> crying to ebay, anything they can to harass innocent cbers that made
> Doug look like the archaic, confused, eunich he became by his own hand.
> I believe in returning things t their rightful owners. You have a hell
> of a way of choosing friends, Keith. Anyone who would hang with this
> sick bastard I certainly wouldn't want to be depending on during a time
> of crisis. You wanna defend this slug, do it on a hammie board. He has
> no fans here, except the ones that were driven underground...plus one.
>
First of all I never partook of any of his actions, and his usenet actions
upset me as much as anyone else. Look back my posts at that time said as
much. I am not defending anyone, like I said people screw up they have to
pay for it no matter who they are. If I make a mistake then I pay for it.
As for our email corerespondance, yes I have emailed you on a few occasions,
and I remember what it was regarding, I have also emailed Mopar, and Dave. I
have talked to others on the phone, I even asked ICECOLD if he would be
interested in meeting for a coffee while I was in NYC. I try to treat people
the way I would like to be treated, I try not to call anyone names. I will
however stand up for my beliefs and my rights, as I feel everyone else
should. I may not agree with everyone, like Dave on occasion, or others
here, but I respect their rights and their opinions.
I have nothing to hide, thats why my call is there, if anyone wants to look
me up and drop by they are welcome. As for what I do with my life and the
organizations I volunteer with, again I am proud of what I do, and the
wonderful people I have met across the country that enjoy doing the same
things. Maybe if more people looked out for their neighbors, and looked to
help each other, we wouldn't have the problems we have in this society
today.
When I was speaking of Doug I was talking of our conversations regarding
radio, not about this group. When he starts talking about the keyclown thing
I tend to tune him out.
FYI one of the people you could have verified some of the information
regarding the emergency radio interferrence thing died last week from
complications from open heart surgery, he was a close friend who I have
known since I was a kid, and he had known my family when my grandfather was
fire chief in McClure. His name was Fred Reinbolt he was a Deputy Sherrif. I
tried to give you contact names from the Departments in the county.
And I will say htis, hams are just as bad if not more when it comes to
jamming, if they are not hams then they have ham radios and are jamming, a
while back, on Memorial day weekend, SKYWARN was activated here, we were
under condition Red, I was out there in it with golf ball sized hail
bouncing off my head when I was terying to get in to set up Net Control
station for Hnry County, the Lucas County SKYWARN net had to change
repeaters 5 times because 2 idiots wanted to play games and jam the
repeaters.
Oh and the topic of sending things to people and making phone calls ect.
wasn't it chuck who made the threats to Doug? And what about the
person/persons who made some calls or sent letters to Franks place of
employment making unfounded comments about him being a child molester that
cost him his job?
So it looks to me like both sides of this conflict are guilty of pushing the
issue.
Think of me what you want, I have always tried to be civil in my
discussions. Unlike others who are on here, I have nothing to hide.
Richard Cranium
> www.TimNebo.com wrote:
> >
> > i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the world wide
> > amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only when there
> > is so much more going on.
>
> The amount of problem on the ham bands are but a small minority of
> people. Compared to the CB band where breaking the law is the "rule"
> rather than the exception.
You can support the accuracy of that statement? I doubt it.
The vast majority of CB users are law-abiding people. A small fraction
of those people venture outside the "legal 40" into Freeband, and a
miniscule number stumble into ten meters. Most of the latter are
truckers who have no idea that they're intruding on an amateur band.
MOST Cbers don't use amplifiers; MOST CBers don't use echo boxes; MOST
CBers don't venture out-of-band!
Apparently you can only hear the over-powered, echo using ones. Is
that a bad receiver or really selective listening?
You, sir are woefully misinformed. But you expose your negativity
every time you post, so it comes as no surprise.
If you really want a place where "breaking the law is the rule rather
than the exception", try driving on almost any highway.
>
> > after all the guys on the ham bands are making our
> > entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest concern is
> > still truckers with small amps driving up an down the highway.
>
> After the last skip cycle, the whole world got a taste of USA CB. I'm
> sure that that was not an image that I would want the world to picture
> us as.
I have to ask: If you're worried about our "image", why not go after
the high-power licensed broadcasters (like WWCR), who give the world a
wacked out view of America as a bunch of religious nutcases begging
for donations? I'm MUCH more concerned about that image than I am of a
few truckdrivers. Oh, I forgot; they aren't using an unused frequency
in the ten meter band, are they? How about this: What is a domestic US
shortwave broadcaster doing in the TROPICAL bands? This is not a
Tropical nation by any stretch of the definition! But they have a
license, so it's OK to violate ITU Regulations? Hmmmmmm?
Richard Cranium
> >tim...@aol.com187 (www.TimNebo.com) wrote
> >
> >everybody in the entire radio active world knows
> >it is going on but you!
>
> If you are radio active on 14.313, do let us know times (UTC) when
> you're on. As Tom Sevart says, there's no law against listening to
> (and making recordings of) pirates....
>
> -Aaron-
By all means, record away. And be sure to send your recordings to
Riley so action can be taken against those law-breaking amateurs!
Jerry Oxendine
'Doc <w5...@icok.net> wrote in message news:3D62A011...@icok.net...
Yes, but most AMers adhere to an unspoken gentlemen's agreement that they
will occupy only a
small segment, usually near the upper limits of a given phone band. I
didn't mean to imply that it
was mandatory.
73
Jerry
Jerry Oxendine
> then whos job is it to police the cb band? surely not jerry o and aaron h,
but
> its hard to tell from there post here, if you went by there attitude alone
> you'd think they made 100k a year being cb cops
But, Tim, I don't CARE what CBers do on the 40 channels; they can get on
channel 6, run
a quad-zillion watts and burn out each other's eyeballs, for all I care. I
just want the intruders
off the ham bands. What's so unreasonable about that?
Jerry
Jerry Oxendine
> >Those are "turf" wars that don't need to go on. It is caused by
> immature, fire-hydrant-pissing
> mental midgets that think that "their" frequency should be populated
> only by them. It is a simply matter for the SSBers to move down a few
> KCs. The AMers only have a few places to operate on that mode. Control
> freaks abound everywhere, and the SSBers could simply move a ways.
> But NOOOOOOOO. Everybody's gotta defend their "turf"/
> Jerry<<
>
>
>
> Are the SSBers legal there?
Yes, but I hear people arguing about who was there first, who "peed" on the
fire hydrant first, whose net was there first, yada, yada, yada when there's
no reason to argue. While these stupid,
3rd grader turf wars go on, the adjacent frequencies are totally quiet.
What is the BFD? There's
PLENTY OF room and all that needs to happen is for one group just to move a
few KC away.
SHEEEEESH!! Some of 'em whine about the AMers and deliberately get within
QRMing distance on purpose, and I have to ask why. Some 8 year olds act
more mature than those
clowns......... Bad eggs in every group.
Jerry
Keith Hosman
From: <Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Ham Misbehavior
> >
> I agree 100 percent with Twistedhed,Doug Adair is a walking pile of shit!
>
> Do you plan on bringing that asshole to the ballgame?
>
> --
> Go#40
No I wasn't planning on it, I got 4 tickets I sent you two today, and the
other two are for me and an old friend of mine, you'd like him, he likes
trucks and loud radios, he has a 102" whip mounted dead center of the
toolbox on the back of his truck. his name is Jerry, he works at the Cambell
Soup company here in Napoleon and goes by "Country Boy", perhaps you might
have heard some of my other friends on the radio in the past, such as
"Undertaker, "BOB", Renegade", "JPT =Just Plain Tired", and perhaps you have
heard me a time or two, I went by DrummerBoy on AM and ob SSB I was LDO218,
LDO = Long Distance Opetators a now defunct SSB club that was running in
N.W. Ohio.
I have no problems with you, and do not wish to start any.
Aaron H. Voobner
I usually ignore your trolling Richard, but this one made me LOL.
There are probably a half a dozen amateurs monitoring/recording those
frequencies. Amateurs want bad amateurs busted - just as much as
they'd want Tim busted if he was bootlegging on 14.313.
-Aaron-
Dirty Sneakers
--
Try me I'll Make you Famous
<Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
news:20020820234119.986$M...@newsreader.com...
> "Me" <who...@you.com> wrote:
> > <Mopar...@hotmailnospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:20020820232525.744$G...@newsreader.com...
> >
> > > > > Thanks for the tip,fuck nut.
> >
> > > >>That would be "tip, fucknut!"
> >
> > > I'm not talking about the tip that ticlkes your throat.
> >
> >>As your buddy Landshark
> >
> You're not my buddy,and you're not Landshark.
Never ever said I was your budy dyslexia setting in? And trust me I never
said I was Landshark.
Twistedhed
actions upset me as much as anyone else. Look back my posts at that time
said as much. I am not defending anyone, like I said people screw up
they have to pay for it no matter who they are. If I make a mistake then
I pay for it.
As for our email corerespondance, yes I have emailed you on a few
occasions, and I remember what it was regarding, I have also emailed
Mopar, and Dave.<<
Plenty of email gets exchanged among this board.
> I have talked to others on the phone, I even asked ICECOLD if he would
be interested in meeting for a coffee while I was in NYC. I try to treat
people the way I would like to be treated, I try not to call anyone
names. <<
Dig it. I haven't seen Dave, Ice, OR Mopar pulling what Dogie did. Have
you?
>I will however stand up for my beliefs and my rights, as I feel
everyone else should. I may not agree with everyone, like Dave on
occasion, or others here, but I respect their rights and their opinions.
<<
And your belief that Dogie is a nice guy is
out there, despite the volume of filth he has posted.
>I have nothing to hide, thats why my call is there, if anyone wants to
look me up and drop by they are welcome. <<
Cool, then answer the question: If he is such as nice guy, you would
have no problem with
your wife or daughter receiving the shit he posted directed toward many
of us, hey?,
>As for what I do with my life and the organizations I volunteer with,
again I am proud of what I do, and the wonderful people I have met
across the country that enjoy doing the same things. Maybe if more
people looked out for their neighbors, and looked to help each other, we
wouldn't have the problems we have in this society today. <<
Hey,, that's great,,really it is, and I have the utmost respect for
React, but when you are using their sigs on your personal time to voice
YOUR PERSONAL opinion, it reflects on the organization, whether you
realize it or not.
None of the orgs in your sig would support this clown after reading his
BS, let alone go to meet this sexual deviant. Bet on it.
>When I was speaking of Doug I was talking of our conversations
regarding radio, not about this group. When he starts talking about the
keyclown thing I tend to tune him out.
<<
The rest of the world tuned him out as soon as they saw his deviancy.
You apparently befriended him.
>FYI one of the people you could have verified some of the information
regarding the emergency radio interferrence thing died last week from
complications from open heart surgery, he was a close friend who I have
known since I was a kid, and he had known my family when my grandfather
was fire chief in McClure. His name was Fred Reinbolt he was a Deputy
Sherrif. I tried to give you contact names from the Departments in the
county.
And I will say htis, hams are just as bad if not more when it comes to
jamming, if they are not hams then they have ham radios and are jamming,
a while back, on Memorial day weekend, SKYWARN was activated here, we
were under condition Red, I was out there in it with golf ball sized
hail bouncing off my head when I was terying to get in to set up Net
Control station for Hnry County, the Lucas County SKYWARN net had to
change repeaters 5 times because 2 idiots wanted to play games and jam
the repeaters.
Oh and the topic of sending things to people and making phone calls ect.
wasn't it chuck who made the threats to Doug? <<
Let's put in perspective, shall we Keith? You're all hammies in a cb
room making THREATS. Let's not forget Lelnad man either, with shooting
freebanders in the head and teling me I'm a "dead fish."
Bottom line: Hammie bullshit in a cb room!
>And what about the person/persons who made some calls or sent letters
to Franks place of employment making unfounded comments about him being
a child molester that cost him his job?<<
What about it? Dogie played that card all over the net, so did "nad.
Seeing how you buddied with N8, I can see how you actualy believed
Frank worked......... with kids, no less.
>So it looks to me like both sides of this conflict are guilty of
pushing the issue. <<
Not even close.
You were here when N8 started his BS and it was returned. Certain
hammies think they're big stuff and thought they'd come in here and
dazzle us lowly ignorant cbers and we'd kiss their no-code licensed azz,
only we didn't lay down and take their BS. Many of us ARE licensed
hammies, way beyond these leeches. and corrected them on many
issues,,,,,so many to the point they were driven madly underground.
>Think of me what you want, I have always tried to be civil in my
discussions. Unlike others who are on here, I have nothing to hide. <<
How about a ton of N8's posts from your wife and daughter?
>73 de Keith
--
KC8TCQ
American Red Cross - Disaster Services
Board Member - Henry County Chapter American Red Cross Health and Safety
Services Instructor - Henry County Chapter American Red Cross
Vice President: REACT of Henry County <<
And you do stand for what you believe in Keith, and I respect the hell
outta you for what you do....but acting as a Kissinger-type for someone
like N8 is not the wisest choice you could have made.
Landshark
"Dirty Sneakers" <dirty...@keds.com> wrote in message
news:QkS89.2745$Aw4.2...@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
We know that your not me, just by your
trolling.
Landshark
"Keith Hosman" <arc...@bnnorth.net> wrote in message
news:%aP89.7231$pv6.7...@cletus.bright.net.
Well good luck Keith, I'm afraid too many trolls
have infected the group, so it's going to be an up hill
battle for discussions. As for Doug, well he and his clones
have left such a stain here, I doubt anyone here will forgive
him for what he has done. As long as you are happy about him,
it really doesn't matter at all what other people think about
him. It's a funny thing, I'd bet you hundred dollars that all
the big talk by the trolls wouldn't ever be said to your face
or on the ham bands, so go figure.
Landshark
--
"I believe it was Fredrick the Great:
he who defends everything defends
nothing."
Jerry Oxendine
Richard Cranium <richc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c5ecbb69.02082...@posting.google.com...
I've done it before, and I'll do it again.
J
Kenneth
ANYWHERE EVER........Your like those morons driving a Yugo bitching about
SUVS killing the rainforest.
"JJ" <radio...@mailcity.net> wrote in message
news:3D626890...@mailcity.net...
> Who cares what the idiots do on the cb band do as long as they do
> not interfere with other services. The whole argument here is that
> it is not confined to the cb band. The overdriven, overpowered,
> splatter boxes cause other interference, and the encroachment into
> other frequencies by unlicensed operators, such as the 10 meter
> band with their imported "10 meter" radios, which we all know are
> aimed at the cb crowd, is the issue. That is what we want cleaned
> up.
>
> Twistedhed wrote:
> >
> > From: nojunk...@worldlynx.net (Dave Hall)
> > www.TimNebo.com wrote:
> > i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the world
> > wide amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only
> > when there is so much more going on.
> >
> > >The amount of problem on the ham bands are but a small minority of
> > people. Compared to the CB band where breaking the law is the "rule"
> > rather than the exception.<<
> >
> > Opinions are like ........., this one stinks and shows you can not only
> > not mask your disdain for cbers but go out of your way to antagonize and
> > let your hate be known...repeatedly. Seek within and you will find the
> > source.
> >
> >
> > Tim continued with: "after all the guys on the ham bands are making our
> > entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest
> > concern is still truckers with small amps driving up an down the
> > highway. "
> >
> > >After the last skip cycle, the whole world got a taste of USA CB. I'm
> > sure that that was not an image that I would want the world to picture
> > us as. <<
> >
> > (Sigh) The whole world has had not only a taste but a plateful of an
> > image not aesthetically pleasing long before this last skip cycle, and
> > it was brought to them courtesy of Hammie USA,,..yourself a fine example
> > of what I speak...prejudice for no apparent reason and anxious to share
> > it with whoever will lend an ear.
> > Sharing the knowledge that you recently became aware of what a high
> > magnitude of a skip cycle can do, especially the present one, doesn't
> > mean the rest of the world shared your recent revelation at the same
> > time you experienced it. Many of us have experienced several cycles.
> > Judging by your astonishment concerning the skip cycle, you probably
> > won;'t find the next one as fascinating as your first, but you can still
> > have fun with it.
> >
> > Tim related: "aaron you asked
> > for proof of "current torubles on the hf bands" and here it is. dont try
> > to wiesel out of it now. be a man and admitt it really is going on and
> > theres nothing you can do about any of it."
> >
> > Dave
> > "Sandbagger"
Richard Cranium
Why are you answering for Aanal Aaron??
Nobody cares what you do, Jerry. You are as impotent as Aanal Aaron is.
chessecutter
> > tim...@aol.com187 (www.TimNebo.com)
> >Message-id: <20020819142245...@mb-cl.aol.com>
> >
> >i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the
> world
> >wide
> >amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only
> when
> >there
> making
> >our
> >entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest
> concern
> >is
> you
> >asked
> >for proof of "current torubles on the hf bands" and here it is. dont
> try
> >to
> >wiesel out of it now. be a man and admitt it really is going on and
> theres
> >nothing you can do about any of it.
>
> bands. I asked for proof that a certain frequency on 20 meters was
> currently being abused. It wasn't. That's because the violators who
> abused it in the past got penalized by the FCC. If you read the FCC
> enforcement logs you will see that problems do get dealt with. Often
> it takes time, but it happens, and it has nothing to do with me or my
> posting in this NG. It happens because the majority of hams don't want
> their bands to become an unusable mess. BTW, I notice you seem to be
> a "fan" of HF trouble spots, i.e. you know just what frequencies to be
> on. Interesting...
>
> -Aaron-
What do you care about all of this anyways. you said yourself that you
do not now or ever have owned or operate any radio equipment. I really
see no reason for your whining. Hell you are not a ham and not a cber.
What the hell are you then?
chessecutter
> > sure am, all i have to do is read rec.radio.shortwave and the trash misc
> ham
> > group to be right up to date on all the hot spots like the am'ers on 75
> meters
> > out on the west coast that keep jamming the ssb'ers. its alot of fun to
> hear
> > the guys go at it.
>
> Those are "turf" wars that don't need to go on. It is caused by immature,
> fire-hydrant-pissing
> mental midgets that think that "their" frequency should be populated only by
> them. It is a simply
> matter for the SSBers to move down a few KCs. The AMers only have a few
> places to operate on that mode. Control freaks abound everywhere, and the
> SSBers could simply move a ways.
> But NOOOOOOOO. Everybody's gotta defend their "turf"/
>
> Jerry
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >a "fan" of HF trouble spots, i.e. you know just what frequencies to be
> > >on. Interesting...
> > >
> > >-Aaron-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.TimNebo.com
> >
> >
hey jerry . are you saying that ham radio is inhabited by mental
midgets???? My , my...Well I never....
Landshark
"Tom Sevart" <n2uhc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ak5b66$1g4mp4$1...@ID-52518.news.dfncis.de...
> X-No-archive: Yes
>
> Apparently he's someone who just likes to argue even though he's long ago
> lost the argument.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
Why that would make him a troll,
wouldn't it.
Aaron H. Voobner
news:ak5b66$1g4mp4$1...@ID-52518.news.dfncis.de...
> X-No-archive: Yes
>
> Apparently he's someone who just likes to argue even
>though he's long ago lost the argument.
I didn't lose anything. The banned radio auctions are still being
stopped by eBay....and a ham still cannot legally buy a banned radio
from a retailer.
-Aaron-
Jerry Oxendine
chessecutter <cheese...@webhideout.com> wrote in message
news:fef386d5.02082...@posting.google.com...
Some of them are. Just like the BIG POWER guys, the PEAK and TUNE guys,
the outbanding
truckers. Sound familiar? I have NO use for adults that never grow
up--like that crap that goes on
on rec.radio.misc.
Jerry
Keyclown Busters
in message news:<xhW89.3014$7g5.19...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>...
TOP POST PURPOSELY DONE TO MAKE LANDCARP WHINE SOME MORE!
Who ever said N8 needed or wanted forgiveness? Why would he? The
Antiboys have
overwhelmingly accomplished the task of making keyclowns whine and
moan. As for not saying stuff on the ham bands...that has no meaning
at all. We are not on the ham bands. Anything goes on CB...you
keyclowns have said that over and over. OK, so the Antiboys agree to
those terms and make you out as the whining cowards you really are.
More websites are on the way. More ratouts are coming daily. More
frustration and whining from keyclowns will then manifest itself here.
No one can stop the Antikeyclowns on our righteous path. There isn't a
thing you can do about us, so just sit there and take it. You have for
years and will continue to do so.
You can say anything you want, but Antikeyclowns are here to stay, and
you are completely without the power or intellect to stop us.
> Well good luck Keith, I'm afraid too many trolls
> have infected the group, so it's going to be an up hill
> battle for discussions. As for Doug, well he and his clones
> have left such a stain here, I doubt anyone here will forgive
> him for what he has done. As long as you are happy about him,
> it really doesn't matter at all what other people think about
> him. It's a funny thing, I'd bet you hundred dollars that all
> the big talk by the trolls wouldn't ever be said to your face
> or on the ham bands, so go figure.
>
> Landshark the sissyboy who wears pink diapers
Randy
"Keyclown Busters" <keyclow...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d1e9cf6a.02082...@posting.google.com...
>
> TOP POST PURPOSELY DONE TO MAKE ME AN ASS!
> Who ever said N8 needed or wanted common sense? Why would he? The
> Antiboys have
> overwhelmingly accomplished the task of making mamas whine and
> moan. As for not saying stuff on the ham bands...that has no meaning
> at all. We are not on the ham bands. Anything goes on CB...you
> masters of us have said that over and over. OK, so the Antitwerps agree to
> those terms and make you out as the almighty masters of all the free time
I have.
>
> More pointless websites are on the way. More ignored ratouts are coming
daily. More
> frustration and whining from me will then manifest itself here.
> No one can stop the Antikeyclowns on our ridiculous path. There isn't a
> thing you care to do about us, so just sit there and ignore it. You have
for
> years and will continue to do so.
>
> You can say anything you want, but Antikeyclowns are impotent, and
> you are completely without the desire to help us.
>
Landshark
"Randy" <rcha...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:huW99.341639$q53.10...@twister.austin.rr.com...
LOL!, pretty funny Randy, now
Doug's new account is going into the kill file.
--
There are no stupid questions, just stupid
people.
Mr. Garrison
Randy
"Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote in message
news:E4Y99.300$MN5.26...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Nuttin to it Shark. Just read what he wrote, and made the proper
corrections. <g>
Take care.
-R-
ye...@removecet.com
(www.TimNebo.com) wrote:
>my point is why only bother the cb'ers? i dont see jerry, aaron, frank or
>anybody else tirading about the amatuer bands and on there newsgroups
>complaining and these problems are even more directly related to the service
>there fighting for. i just wanted to point out the hypocrisy in what there
>doing in here...
I'm in here because I'm a CBer. I am not a ham (yet), and that's
probably why I don't post much on ham newsgroups. That's not
hypocrisy, that's integrity. Learn the difference.
Keyclown Busters
you know you keyclowns are feeling the pinch from antikeyclown
activity...almost as much as you feel the pleasure from fondling each
other.
"Randy" <rchap...@houston.rr.com.ILLEGAL KEYCLOWN> quiveringly and
femininely drooled in message
news:<hqY99.342521$q53.10...@twister.austin.rr.com>...
> "Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Nutsakk.> whined like a sissy in message
> news:E4Y99.300$MN5.26...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Randy" <rchap...@houston.rr.comILLEGAL KEYCLOWN> quiveringly and femininely drooled in message
> > people like me.
> >
> > Landshark
> >
> >
>
> Nuttin in my hands just before I started to do it Shark, but I wished it was > with you... Just read what he wrote, quivered with fear, and made the proper > distortions to aid our group fantasy that our criminal behavior is
> acceptable to others. Hey, when I come out to CA will you play with me on
> the same bed where you and trained puppet necked? Please??? <gay>
>
> Take care.
>
> -RandyChapwomanILLEGAL KEYCLOWN-
Randy
"Keyclown Lusters" <keyclown's-p...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d1e9cf6a.02082...@posting.google.com...
> Distortions do not change the truth. You can ignore all you want, but
> activity...almost as much as we feel the pleasure from fondling each
> other.
>
> > > > "Keyclown Busters" <keyclow...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Landshark
Wasn't it you that said "Kill file him, you'll
feel a lot better" Do it , you'll feel better!.
Landshark
--
"I believe it was Fredrick the Great:
he who defends everything defends
nothing."
> > > >
> > > >
Randy
"Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote in message
I don't think it was Shark. He's too much fun. I just wanna yank one more
ISP from him before I do that.
-R-
Dave Hall
>
> Dave Hall <nojunk...@worldlynx.net> wrote in message news:<3D6235...@worldlynx.net>...
> > www.TimNebo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the world wide
> > > amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only when there
> > > is so much more going on.
> >
> > people. Compared to the CB band where breaking the law is the "rule"
> > rather than the exception.
>
Support for that statement should be obvious to all but the most blind
and those in the river nile.
Listen to the CB band during a "band opening". On it you will hear
stations from 25 to 28 Mhz, ALL of whom are operating illegally. Tune to
the regular 40, and while observing that signal levels are higher than
what would be obtained from a legal station 2 miles away, it becomes
obvious that these stations are running excessive (illegal) power.
Further analysis would show that the modulation level and the amount of
audio distortion is further evidence that the radios have been modified
from their original (If the radio was ever legal) type accepted state.
Then when the band closes down again, I can spin the dial and hear
practically no one. Which would suggest that the "legal" users are not
using the band, even when the obviously illegal ones cannot. While this
evidence is empirical in nature, it is of sufficient quantity, and
occurs regularly enough to make for a compelling case. The evidence
supports my claim. I see no evidence that would support yours. All you
have said is that it doesn't happen. But that proves nothing.
>
> The vast majority of CB users are law-abiding people.
On what planet?
> A small fraction
> of those people venture outside the "legal 40" into Freeband, and a
> miniscule number stumble into ten meters. Most of the latter are
> truckers who have no idea that they're intruding on an amateur band.
Really? That small amount of people must really get around when the skip
is running.
>
> MOST Cbers don't use amplifiers; MOST CBers don't use echo boxes; MOST
> CBers don't venture out-of-band!
Really? Tell that to the cretons on channel 6, and the other mental
midgets that try to squeeze a 10KW transmitter into a Ford Escort. Oh,
and that "bottom-of-the-canyon" sound that is prevelent on channel 19
and many other channels is just room ambiance, and not an echo mike,
right?
>
> Apparently you can only hear the over-powered, echo using ones. Is
> that a bad receiver or really selective listening?
No, it's just the way it really is. Sorry that you either refuse to see
it or can't.
>
> You, sir are woefully misinformed. But you expose your negativity
> every time you post, so it comes as no surprise.
I am only reporting what my receiver tells me. I find it somewhat
curious that you vehemently deny what should be obvious.
> If you really want a place where "breaking the law is the rule rather
> than the exception", try driving on almost any highway.
Irrelevant.
> > > after all the guys on the ham bands are making our
> > > entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest concern is
> > > still truckers with small amps driving up an down the highway.
> >
> > After the last skip cycle, the whole world got a taste of USA CB. I'm
> > sure that that was not an image that I would want the world to picture
> > us as.
>
> I have to ask: If you're worried about our "image", why not go after
> the high-power licensed broadcasters (like WWCR), who give the world a
> wacked out view of America as a bunch of religious nutcases begging
> for donations? I'm MUCH more concerned about that image than I am of a
> few truckdrivers. Oh, I forgot; they aren't using an unused frequency
> in the ten meter band, are they? How about this: What is a domestic US
> shortwave broadcaster doing in the TROPICAL bands? This is not a
> Tropical nation by any stretch of the definition! But they have a
> license, so it's OK to violate ITU Regulations? Hmmmmmm?
I'm not "worried" about our image. I was merely commenting on a previous
poster's concern that the statistically few "bad" hams were giving U.S.
hams a "bad" image. My comment was that if a few bad hams was bad for
our image, imagine what a few million "bad" CBers are doing to their
image, as their overmodulated, overpowered, and out of band signals were
being propagated throughout the world.
Dave
"Sandbagger"
www.TimNebo.com
station has no problem giving a full s meter reading anywhere in this nation
during a solid band opening
>Tune to
>the regular 40, and while observing that signal levels are higher than
>what would be obtained from a legal station 2 miles away, it becomes
>obvious that these stations are running excessive (illegal) power.
Tim Nebo
Twistedhed
>Support for that statement should be obvious to all but the most blind
and those in the river nile. <<
Read: Anyone who doesnt see it your way.
>Listen to the CB band during a "band opening". On it you will hear
stations from 25 to 28 Mhz, ALL of whom are operating illegally. Tune to
the regular 40, and while observing that signal levels are higher than
what would be obtained from a legal station 2 miles away, it becomes
obvious <<
Again, it is "obvious".
Obvious only to yourself.
It's the little green man in your head.
>that these stations are running excessive (illegal) power. Further
analysis would show that the modulation level and the amount of audio
distortion is further evidence that the radios have been modified from
their original (If the radio was ever legal) type accepted state. <<
Your failed analysis was shared with us several times, such as when you
attempted to
spout off about this skip period in contrast to the last one with what
you obviously considered "scientific" comparisons.
Most recently it manifested when you began arguing with yourself over
the fact that the Belgium Observatory was inaccurate concerning sunspot
data simply because it was I that had to educate you on the matter.
>I'm not "worried" about our image. <<
Obsessed is the word that escaped you.
>I was merely commenting on a previous poster's concern that the
statistically few "bad" hams were giving U.S. hams a "bad" image. <<
They aren't "giving" as in a verb action word, it's the needle and the
damage done.
>My comment was that if a few bad hams was bad for our image, imagine
what a few million "bad" CBers are doing to their image, <<
Hehehe! No, YOU imagine it. It ilustrates well what you hammies do with
your spare time.
>as their overmodulated, overpowered, and out of band signals were being
propagated throughout the world.
Dave
"Sandbagger"<<
Sounds like you have another issue or personal problem that needs
addressed, but you need inspect your behavior first, find what it
exactly is that compels you to insult instead of discuss in most of your
posts concerning your obvious and pious disregard for cb.
Dirty Sneakers
> I don't think it was Shark. He's too much fun. I just wanna yank one more
> ISP from him before I do that.
>
> -R-
You just wanna Yank his what?
Dirty Sneakers
--
Try me I'll Make you Famous
"www.TimNebo.com" <tim...@aol.com187> wrote in message
news:20020826094631...@mb-mn.aol.com...
> this one statement shows your ignorance with 10/11 meter propagation. a
qrp
> station has no problem giving a full s meter reading anywhere in this
nation
> during a solid band opening
Tim how many watts do you consider qrp operation?
Richard Cranium
> richc...@yahoo.com (Richard Cranium) wrote...
> ahvo...@yahoo.com (Aaron H. Voobner) wrote in message news:<c9ceae5b.0208...@posting.google.com>...
> > >>
> > >>everybody in the entire radio active world knows
> > >>it is going on but you!
>
> > >If you are radio active on 14.313, do let us know times (UTC) when
> > >you're on. As Tom Sevart says, there's no law against listening to
> > >(and making recordings of) pirates....
> > >
> > >-Aaron-
>
> >By all means, record away. And be sure to send your recordings to
> >Riley so action can be taken against those law-breaking amateurs!
>
> There are probably a half a dozen amateurs monitoring/recording those
> frequencies. Amateurs want bad amateurs busted - just as much as
> they'd want Tim busted if he was bootlegging on 14.313.
>
> -Aaron-
I'm not the one "trolling", Aanal Aaron. And why would you ignore me?
Afraid of the truth?
Why not answer some of the "hard" questions that have been asked of
you recently, like "why the obsession with cleaning up ten meters"
when you're not licensed to operate there? And it's NOT irrelevant,
except to you.
Richard Cranium
> Who cares what the idiots do on the cb band do as long as they do
> not interfere with other services. The whole argument here is that
> it is not confined to the cb band. The overdriven, overpowered,
> splatter boxes cause other interference, and the encroachment into
> other frequencies by unlicensed operators, such as the 10 meter
> band with their imported "10 meter" radios, which we all know are
> aimed at the cb crowd, is the issue. That is what we want cleaned
> up.
But that's a tiny number of operators, Jerry. Why get all freaked out
about it? There are other frequencies you can use, if necessary.
Doesn't your radio have a Tuning knob?
Richard Cranium
> > sure am, all i have to do is read rec.radio.shortwave and the trash misc
> ham
> > group to be right up to date on all the hot spots like the am'ers on 75
> meters
> > out on the west coast that keep jamming the ssb'ers. its alot of fun to
> hear
> > the guys go at it.
>
> Those are "turf" wars that don't need to go on. It is caused by immature,
> fire-hydrant-pissing
> mental midgets that think that "their" frequency should be populated only by
> them. It is a simply
> matter for the SSBers to move down a few KCs. The AMers only have a few
> places to operate on that mode. Control freaks abound everywhere, and the
> SSBers could simply move a ways.
> But NOOOOOOOO. Everybody's gotta defend their "turf"/
>
> Jerry
And that's exactly what you and Aanal Aaron are doing in the wrong
newsgroup, isn't it? You're certainly not here to make friends; you're
defending your "turf". And you and Aanal Aaron are certainly "control
freaks"; that much is obvious from your posting. Why don't YOU just
move a few kHz?
Richard Cranium
He certainly can. The retailer just cannot "import" anymore. The
existing radios can still be sold. You cannot grasp the simplist
point, can you?
www.TimNebo.com
the skip is in really strong
><tim...@aol.com187> wrote in message
>news:20020826094631...@mb-mn.aol.com...
>> this one statement shows your ignorance with 10/11 meter propagation. a
>qrp
>> station has no problem giving a full s meter reading anywhere in this
>nation
>> during a solid band opening
>
>Tim how many watts do you consider qrp operation?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Tim Nebo
Scott (Unit 69)
Richard Cranium wrote:
>
>
> He certainly can. The retailer just cannot "import" anymore. The
> existing radios can still be sold. You cannot grasp the simplist
> point, can you?
How's your football helmet holding up? Did you chip any bricks yet?
Dirty Sneakers
news:20020826192054...@mb-fx.aol.com...
> i've been pegged out by many 4 watt legal cb's from all across the country
when
> the skip is in really strong
How do you know they were 4 watt radios? Guy just pulled it out of the box
or what ? I thought you talked on SSB that would be more than 4 watts right
?
Dirty Sneakers
"Richard Cranium" <richc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> But that's a tiny number of operators, Jerry. Why get all freaked out
> about it? There are other frequencies you can use, if necessary.
> Doesn't your radio have a Tuning knob?
Yeah ok Dick Head and let them run Legal Hams off of frequencies they are
legally allowed to use, what is next freebanders on 20 Meters? Go stick your
head in the sand you Jackass. Better yet go sit in the corner with your
thumb up your ass for 2 hours.
Dirty Sneakers
--
Try me I'll Make you Famous
"Richard Cranium" <richc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c5ecbb69.02082...@posting.google.com...
> And that's exactly what you and Aanal Aaron are doing in the wrong
> newsgroup, isn't it? You're certainly not here to make friends; you're
> defending your "turf". And you and Aanal Aaron are certainly "control
> freaks"; that much is obvious from your posting. Why don't YOU just
> move a few kHz?
Why so a few illegals can use the frequencies I have a legal right to use.
Sorry Dick head perhaps your willing to compromise
yourself since your not a ham and have nothing to lose. Why don't you post
your call sign? Oh whats that your not a ham.
Tom Sevart
"Dirty Sneakers" <dirty...@keds.com> wrote in message
news:dSwa9.224195$2p2.9...@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...
I won't speak for Tim but common convention is QRP = 5 watts or less.
Tom
www.TimNebo.com
guys know that the same signal is over powered. i guess we are all magic around
rec.radio.cb.
>How do you know they were 4 watt radios? Guy just pulled it out of the box
>or what ? I thought you talked on SSB that would be more than 4 watts right
>?
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
megs for ages now? its no big deal to hear guys from the french carribean
islands working back to france or guys in the south pacific working back to the
islands or vica versa. they call it 21 meters and of course dont forget about
49 meters. its a popular pirate hangout all over the world.
>
>Yeah ok Dick Head and let them run Legal Hams off of frequencies they are
>legally allowed to use, what is next freebanders on 20 Meters? Go stick your
>head in the sand you Jackass. Better yet go sit in the corner with your
>thumb up your ass for 2 hours.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
your so clueless
>Yeah ok Dick Head and let them run Legal Hams off of frequencies they are
>legally allowed to use, what is next freebanders on 20 Meters? Go stick your
>head in the sand you Jackass. Better yet go sit in the corner with your
>thumb up your ass for 2 hours.
Tim Nebo
www.TimNebo.com
>
>Tom
>
he knows tom. he was just hoping i didnt.
Tim Nebo
Richard Cranium
There are already "freebanders" all over HF. So? What's your point?
That "only CBers" are to blame? You're more of an idiot than I
thought, George.
Richard Cranium
> Richard Cranium wrote:
> >
> > Dave Hall <nojunk...@worldlynx.net> wrote in message news:<3D6235...@worldlynx.net>...
> > > www.TimNebo.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i was just showing how odd it is that with all the troubles on the world wide
> > > > amatuer bands you religate yourself to "policing" the cb freqs only when there
> > > > is so much more going on.
> > >
> > > The amount of problem on the ham bands are but a small minority of
> > > people. Compared to the CB band where breaking the law is the "rule"
> > > rather than the exception.
> >
> > You can support the accuracy of that statement? I doubt it.
>
> Support for that statement should be obvious to all but the most blind
> and those in the river nile.
> Listen to the CB band during a "band opening". On it you will hear
> stations from 25 to 28 Mhz, ALL of whom are operating illegally.
Prove it.
Tune to
> the regular 40, and while observing that signal levels are higher than
> what would be obtained from a legal station 2 miles away, it becomes
> obvious that these stations are running excessive (illegal) power.
Prove it. Propogation will call you a liar.
> Further analysis would show that the modulation level and the amount of
> audio distortion is further evidence that the radios have been modified
> from their original (If the radio was ever legal) type accepted state.
SOME radios. You cannot prove ALL radios have been modified. And it
simply is not the case.
> Then when the band closes down again, I can spin the dial and hear
> practically no one. Which would suggest that the "legal" users are not
> using the band, even when the obviously illegal ones cannot.
Which proves? Is this supposed to prove that every CBer is a criminal?
Sorry, it doesn't. Your point?
While this
> evidence is empirical in nature, it is of sufficient quantity, and
> occurs regularly enough to make for a compelling case. The evidence
> supports my claim. I see no evidence that would support yours. All you
> have said is that it doesn't happen. But that proves nothing.
And you have proved exactly the same.
>
> >
> > The vast majority of CB users are law-abiding people.
>
> On what planet?
Since CB only exists on this one, I think that's obvious.
> > A small fraction
> > of those people venture outside the "legal 40" into Freeband, and a
> > miniscule number stumble into ten meters. Most of the latter are
> > truckers who have no idea that they're intruding on an amateur band.
>
> Really? That small amount of people must really get around when the skip
> is running.
They do - if that's ALL you listen for. Apparently you're as obsessed
as Aanal Aaron, Jerry Ox, and the elusive "Dirty Sneakers/ME". Try
listening fulltime instead of citing only what supports your alleged
arguement.
> >
> > MOST Cbers don't use amplifiers; MOST CBers don't use echo boxes; MOST
> > CBers don't venture out-of-band!
>
> Really? Tell that to the cretons on channel 6, and the other mental
> midgets that try to squeeze a 10KW transmitter into a Ford Escort. Oh,
> and that "bottom-of-the-canyon" sound that is prevelent on channel 19
> and many other channels is just room ambiance, and not an echo mike,
> right?
Channel 6 is known for that. You still have not proven that the
majority of CBers are "criminals", and you cannot.
> > Apparently you can only hear the over-powered, echo using ones. Is
> > that a bad receiver or really selective listening?
>
> No, it's just the way it really is. Sorry that you either refuse to see
> it or can't.
Bullcrap. You haven't listened to 11 meters, have you?
> > You, sir are woefully misinformed. But you expose your negativity
> > every time you post, so it comes as no surprise.
>
> I am only reporting what my receiver tells me. I find it somewhat
> curious that you vehemently deny what should be obvious.
Likewise. You have extremely selective hearing.
> > If you really want a place where "breaking the law is the rule rather
> > than the exception", try driving on almost any highway.
>
> Irrelevant.
No, it isn't, but you'd like it to be. Just like Aanal Aaron saying
that the fact that he cannot operate on 10 meters is "irrelevant".
He's not licensed to operate on ten meters - and it's NOT irrelevant.
>
> > > > after all the guys on the ham bands are making our
> > > > entire nation look like fools to the whole world, yet your biggest concern is
> > > > still truckers with small amps driving up an down the highway.
> > >
> > > After the last skip cycle, the whole world got a taste of USA CB. I'm
> > > sure that that was not an image that I would want the world to picture
> > > us as.
> >
> > I have to ask: If you're worried about our "image", why not go after
> > the high-power licensed broadcasters (like WWCR), who give the world a
> > wacked out view of America as a bunch of religious nutcases begging
> > for donations? I'm MUCH more concerned about that image than I am of a
> > few truckdrivers. Oh, I forgot; they aren't using an unused frequency
> > in the ten meter band, are they? How about this: What is a domestic US
> > shortwave broadcaster doing in the TROPICAL bands? This is not a
> > Tropical nation by any stretch of the definition! But they have a
> > license, so it's OK to violate ITU Regulations? Hmmmmmm?
>
> I'm not "worried" about our image. I was merely commenting on a previous
> poster's concern that the statistically few "bad" hams were giving U.S.
> hams a "bad" image. My comment was that if a few bad hams was bad for
> our image, imagine what a few million "bad" CBers are doing to their
> image, as their overmodulated, overpowered, and out of band signals were
> being propagated throughout the world.
You're not worried? You should be!
The proportion is about the same whether amateur or CBer. There simply
happens to be 30 to 40 times as many CBers as there will ever be
licensed amateurs, so it SOUNDS like a bigger problem. That's all. Why
not try to enjoy your hobby instead of making someone else's hobby a
pain in your arse like Aanal Aaron and Jerry Ox do? And since 11
meters doesn't propogate all the time you have no reason to be
terribly concerned. You need a life! That's all.
Richard Cranium
I don't need a football helmet. That was Tom. I know the truth; Aanal
Aaron will do his patented "chicken side-step" whenever he can.
But thanks for asking!
Richard Cranium
> chessecutter <cheese...@webhideout.com> wrote in message
> news:fef386d5.02082...@posting.google.com...
> > "Jerry Oxendine" <jox...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:<Aoj89.67359$dr.87...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...
> > > > sure am, all i have to do is read rec.radio.shortwave and the trash
> misc
> ham
> > > > group to be right up to date on all the hot spots like the am'ers on
> 75
> meters
> > > > out on the west coast that keep jamming the ssb'ers. its alot of fun
> to
> hear
> > > > the guys go at it.
> > >
> > > Those are "turf" wars that don't need to go on. It is caused by
> immature,
> > > fire-hydrant-pissing
> > > mental midgets that think that "their" frequency should be populated
> only by
> > > them. It is a simply
> > > matter for the SSBers to move down a few KCs. The AMers only have a few
> > > places to operate on that mode. Control freaks abound everywhere, and
> the
> > > SSBers could simply move a ways.
> > > But NOOOOOOOO. Everybody's gotta defend their "turf"/
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >a "fan" of HF trouble spots, i.e. you know just what frequencies to
> be
> > > > >on. Interesting...
> > > > >
> > > > >-Aaron-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tim Nebo
> > > >
> > > > http://www.TimNebo.com
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > hey jerry . are you saying that ham radio is inhabited by mental
> > midgets???? My , my...Well I never....
>
>
> Some of them are. Just like the BIG POWER guys, the PEAK and TUNE guys,
> the outbanding
> truckers. Sound familiar? I have NO use for adults that never grow
> up--like that crap that goes on
> on rec.radio.misc.
>
> Jerry
Which is why you hang out in rec.radio.cb??
Richard Cranium
And you're willing to compromise? Sure you are. I *am* a ham. What's
your callsign, smelly shoes?
Richard Cranium
> In <20020819103538...@mb-mi.aol.com>, tim...@aol.com187
> (www.TimNebo.com) wrote:
>
> >my point is why only bother the cb'ers? i dont see jerry, aaron, frank or
> >anybody else tirading about the amatuer bands and on their newsgroups
> >complaining and these problems are even more directly related to the service
> >they're fighting for. i just wanted to point out the hypocrisy in what they're
> >doing in here...
>
> I'm in here because I'm a CBer. I am not a ham (yet), and that's
> probably why I don't post much on ham newsgroups. That's not
> hypocrisy, that's integrity. Learn the difference.
I think Tim knows the difference; that's why he made the post. If the
alleged hambos worked as hard to clean up their own bands as they
claim to be working to clean up CB, the world would be a much better
place. And we wouldn't have to put up with their stupidity on this
newsgroup, at least. (I wouldn't miss them a bit, personally.) But
Jerry doesn't dare post a callsign, George can only post bullcrap
snipes, and Aanal Aaron can't possibly be studying for his "extra"
since he spends so much time trolling here and cruising eBay for
so-called "illegal" auctions.