Palomar 300A Amp Help...
Jos
I changed out the diodes and the electrolytics..but there is no voltage
(screen etc..) except about 11.5 AC on one of the pins to one tube, the
driver tube (6LF6)..after that no voltage pass that. Plate voltage is about
680 volts. Electrolytics show about 690 volts DC out.
Resoldered all connections etc. Relays are good..(changed them..) Thinking
maybe bad bypass caps?? Any help would be appreciated..Thanks..
Frank Gilliland
Amps are illegal with CB radio. Try posting on rec.radio.amateur.equipment or
sci.electronics.repair
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tn...@mucks.net
>Amps are illegal with CB radio. Try posting on rec.radio.amateur.equipment or
>sci.electronics.repair
Whatever happened to" free and open discussion in rrcb " ?
Frank Gilliland
I freely and openly posted my response. Feel free to do the same.
tn...@mucks.net
***************************************************************
The above quote is from Frank in the message
ul17fvcmsbadc8h85...@4ax.com
For Frank---- In case you need to be reminded of what Free and
Open means.
Free = Voluntary, not fastened, independent ect.
Open = Free from controls, not secret or hidden, not shut or
shut up ect.
****************************************************************
One more definition needs to be pointed out at this time............
Hypocrite = Feigning to be what one isn't
Which brings a question to mind...........Frank, are you in favor of
Landshark
<tn...@mucks.net> wrote in message news:c8j7fvsicifor6pt5...@4ax.com...
>
> >Amps are illegal with CB radio. Try posting on rec.radio.amateur.equipment or
> >sci.electronics.repair
>
> Whatever happened to" free and open discussion in rrcb " ?
Oh no, don't deprive them of their trolling.
Landshark
--
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being a newsgroupie
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98 Buell S3 Thunderbolt
99 Ford F-150 Supercab 4X4 (antenna platform)
Jos
I found the contacts of the relay board that fit into the main chassis
worn.
Used some deox cleaner on the main chassis contacts....
What I did was lay a thin 'solder strip' on the worn part of the contacts on
the relay board. (I suppose you could also use a copper sheeting used in
circuit boards and glue carefully also..)
Now amp is fully functional.
And Frank..I know they are illegal for CB..this is a 10 to 40 meter amp..
Unfortunatly, I can't find another amatuer that knows beans about radio or
would help...can talk alot and chastise..thus why I am here..
Thanks to all for your input...73
"Frank Gilliland" <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message
news:kii7fv0ukf2e09o56...@4ax.com...
Frank Gilliland
>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 23:13:01 -0400, tn...@mucks.net wrote:
>
>>
>>>Amps are illegal with CB radio. Try posting on rec.radio.amateur.equipment or
>>>sci.electronics.repair
>>
>>Whatever happened to " free and open discussion in rrcb " ?
>
>***************************************************************
>
>The above quote is from Frank in the message
>ul17fvcmsbadc8h85...@4ax.com
>
>For Frank---- In case you need to be reminded of what Free and
>Open means.
I don't need any reminders; regardless...
>Free = Voluntary, not fastened, independent ect.
>
>Open = Free from controls, not secret or hidden, not shut or
> shut up ect.
>
>****************************************************************
>
>One more definition needs to be pointed out at this time............
>
>Hypocrite = Feigning to be what one isn't
>
>Which brings a question to mind...........Frank, are you in favor of
>free and open discussion in rrcb?
Absolutely, especially within the topic of the newsgroup. And with respect to
your question I'll quote from another of my posts on the very same topic; from
4387fvgp6l55e7ttr...@4ax.com:
"I have no problem with them returning to try and spread more of their
mythology, but I don't think they will be very sucessful:..."
Now I should probably provide YOU with a definition:
Bias = a mental leaning; pariality; prejudice; narrow-mindedness.
Now for MY question.......Tnom, do you prefer a newsgroup that is controlled by
a few tech-wannabes that promote illegal operation and give bad technical advice
to credulous people in order to boost their businesses?
Frank Gilliland
<S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
>
><tn...@mucks.net> wrote in message news:c8j7fvsicifor6pt5...@4ax.com...
>>
>> >Amps are illegal with CB radio. Try posting on rec.radio.amateur.equipment or
>> >sci.electronics.repair
>>
>> Whatever happened to" free and open discussion in rrcb " ?
>
> Oh no, don't deprive them of their trolling.
>
> Landshark
Or you of your whining about George and your elusive killfile.
Frank Gilliland
<snip>
>And Frank..I know they are illegal for CB..this is a 10 to 40 meter amp..
You mean it doesn't work on 11 meters? Are you a ham?
>Unfortunatly, I can't find another amatuer that knows beans about radio or
>would help...can talk alot and chastise..thus why I am here..
How hard did you look for a knowledgable ham? Did you post on the ham group as I
suggested?
Dave VanHorn
"Frank Gilliland" <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message
news:kii7fv0ukf2e09o56...@4ax.com...
wrote:
>
> >I have a Palomar 300A. Got it 'used'..(real used..: P)
> >I changed out the diodes and the electrolytics..but there is no voltage
> >(screen etc..) except about 11.5 AC on one of the pins to one tube, the
> >driver tube (6LF6)..
You shouldn't have 11V on the filaments of a 6V tube.
Upton O'Good
> Ok..first off..
> I found the contacts of the relay board that fit into the
> main chassis
> worn.
> Used some deox cleaner on the main chassis contacts....
> What I did was lay a thin 'solder strip' on the worn part
> of the contacts on
> the relay board. (I suppose you could also use a copper
> sheeting used in
> circuit boards and glue carefully also..)
> Now amp is fully functional.
>
> And Frank..I know they are illegal for CB..this is a 10 to
> 40 meter amp..
> Unfortunatly, I can't find another amatuer that knows
> beans about radio or
let's see, you tried all these newsgroups...
alt.ham-radio.marketplace
alt.ham-radio.morse
alt.ham-radio.packet
alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf
rec.ham-radio
rec.ham-radio.packet
rec.ham-radio.swap
rec.radio.amateur
rec.radio.amateur.antenna
rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
rec.radio.amateur.dx
rec.radio.amateur.equipment
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
rec.radio.amateur.misc
rec.radio.amateur.policy
rec.radio.amateur.space
rec.radio.amateur.swap
...plus there is QRZ, eHamnet, and dozens of other ham radio related
forums. But I guess you tried all those and you couldn't find one ham
who could help you troubleshoot a simple generic rf amplifier circuit.
uh huh, right
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Upton O'Good
>I guess you tried all those and you couldn't find one ham
> who could help you troubleshoot a simple generic rf
> amplifier circuit.
hey Josh maybe you got chastisement by other hams because using a
Palomar on ham bands is not a good idea, they are cheaply made cb amps
meaning they have poor or no harmonic filtering so you will splatter out
of band etc. also if you are the same joshua I think you depend on frank
for help too much I see he helped you fix your swan once.
From: Jos (jos...@charter.net)
Subject: Re: Swan 500 help...
View: Complete Thread (6 articles)
Original FormatNewsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
Date: 2002-11-30 21:32:34 PST
Thanks for the reply..tryed that..smoked a 10k resistor following the
diagram..whatever he did, it's throughly messed up. Nothing is where
it's
supposed to be. Some funky mods in the audio section. He even rewired
the
Jones plug to the power supply for some reason. Got that working but no
go
with the rig. I don't know what he was trying to do but it will have to
have
a Swan tech to do it (if you can find one..) Cost more to fix in money
and
heartburn than it's worth. Want to mess up a perfectly fine radio, let a
ham
do some mods to it..Torks me..Landfill time...tired of messing with
it..Thanks for the response..
"Frank Gilliland" <ye...@REMOVEcet.com> wrote in message
news:3de99573...@news.cet.com...
> In <uuim3k3...@corp.supernews.com>, "Jos" <jos...@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm followingf the schedmatic but sevral wires seem to show
continuity and
> >does not coorspond top where they are supposed to go. Last try is to
get the
> >color codes and see what happens.
>
> Bad idea. If someone has screwed with the wiring then you certainly
> can't trust the wire colors. Regardless, I don't think there was a
> recorded chart for the wire colors in the transceiver, at least I
> haven't seen one. The best thing you can do is disconnect all the
> wires from the jones plug, find the component at the other end,
> disconnect the wire from the connection and test it. It's a long, slow
> process, but much better than hit-or-miss with color codes that may or
> may not be correct. And when it's finished you will have the
> confidence of knowing for sure that it's wired correctly.
>
> BTW, if you are going to rewire the jones plug, you might also add
> some chokes and caps like those that were added to the later radios.
>
> Also, replace that C202 can as soon as possible. Mine was bad, and
> after talking to a few other people that cap seems to be a source of
> problems as the radio gets older.
>
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Jos
I think it is my business where I post for help.
Most amatuer linears will work on 11 meters..that is a moot question.
Perhaps you should concern yourself with your own affairs if you are not
willing to offer help.
Regards...
"Frank Gilliland" <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message
news:rkm7fvkov467hq0vi...@4ax.com...
Jos
yes..all voltages are present now...relay board was not making
contact..also a couple of solder connections (old) and rewired a few
things..I did a fix for the relay board.(see above..).
Thanks for the input...
"Dave VanHorn" <dvan...@cedar.net> wrote in message
news:9MicnWPObLq...@comcast.com...
Frank Gilliland
>Frank..
>I think it is my business where I post for help.
>Most amatuer linears will work on 11 meters..that is a moot question.
>Perhaps you should concern yourself with your own affairs if you are not
>willing to offer help.
I have no problem with helping anyone fix any ham equipment I am familiar with,
just not here because this is a CB newsgroup. And as some other poster pointed
out, are you the same Jos that had the problems with the Swan?
Jos
what?..to harass??
Let me restate..it's none of your business where I post..
If that is hard for you to understand..let me suggest you buy a puppy, work
with inner city children or go back to school. Because you either have too
much time on your hands or you enjoy harassing people on newsgroups.
If you are a ham..what is it you want?...
Is this a need to feel important or needed?..Looking for acknowledgement?..
Ok Frank, I acknowledge you...
I acknowledge you have turned a simple question of repair into a fiasco from
someone who is 'compulsive' about newgroups, 'CB's" and I still have'nt
figured out exactly what you want...
Either way, it is obvious you have nothing to contribute..so good bye..good
luck and get a life...Regards..
(What is it with some people today?...the water??..)
"Frank Gilliland" <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message
news:b7u7fvkgphtob35gs...@4ax.com...
Frank Gilliland
>Frank..maybe I'm missing something here..if your not here to help..than
>what?..to harass??
Yes, you -are- missing something. This is a newsgroup for CB radio, not ham
equipment repair. There are other newsgroups for that. So why are -you- here?
>Let me restate..it's none of your business where I post..
So why is it such a concern to you how I reply?
>If that is hard for you to understand..let me suggest you buy a puppy, work
>with inner city children
...funny you should mention that...
> or go back to school. Because you either have too
>much time on your hands or you enjoy harassing people on newsgroups.
It's none of your business what I do with my time. Gee, that sounds familiar...
>If you are a ham..what is it you want?...
Nope, not a ham. I just fix their equipment from time to time, usually when they
can't find the problem themselves.
>Is this a need to feel important or needed?..Looking for acknowledgement?..
>Ok Frank, I acknowledge you...
>I acknowledge you have turned a simple question of repair into a fiasco from
>someone who is 'compulsive' about newgroups, 'CB's" and I still have'nt
>figured out exactly what you want...
> Either way, it is obvious you have nothing to contribute..so good bye..good
>luck and get a life...Regards..
>(What is it with some people today?...the water??..)
Maybe. So, if you are not a ham, are you a CBer?
tn...@mucks.net
<spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote:
>In <c8j7fvsicifor6pt5...@4ax.com>, tn...@mucks.net wrote:
>
>>
>>>Amps are illegal with CB radio. Try posting on rec.radio.amateur.equipment or
>>>sci.electronics.repair
>>
>>Whatever happened to" free and open discussion in rrcb " ?
>
>I freely and openly posted my response. Feel free to do the same.
>
And you negated the free and open part by telling him to go elsewhere.
Can you spell hypocrite!
tn...@mucks.net
>>Hypocrite = Feigning to be what one isn't
>>
>>Which brings a question to mind...........Frank, are you in favor of
>>free and open discussion in rrcb?
>
>Absolutely, especially within the topic of the newsgroup. And with respect to
>your question I'll quote from another of my posts on the very same topic; from
>4387fvgp6l55e7ttr...@4ax.com:
>
>"I have no problem with them returning to try and spread more of their
>mythology, but I don't think they will be very sucessful:..."
>
>Now I should probably provide YOU with a definition:
>
>Bias = a mental leaning; pariality; prejudice; narrow-mindedness.
You have a overdose of bias. You are biased into feeling the need to
control this newsgroup. Try being a little more "free and open".
>
>Now for MY question.......Tnom, do you prefer a newsgroup that is controlled by
>a few tech-wannabes that promote illegal operation and give bad technical advice
>to credulous people in order to boost their businesses?
If it's free and open anyone can post. If they promote silly ideas
then they'll be shot down. You seem to forget two things.
1 Your not a cop
2. Even if you were a cop a discussion of amps is not illegal.
Peter Fitztight
"Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote in message
news:jzQIa.429$S36.52...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
Frank Gilliland
>
>>>Hypocrite = Feigning to be what one isn't
>>>
>>>Which brings a question to mind...........Frank, are you in favor of
>>>free and open discussion in rrcb?
>>
>>Absolutely, especially within the topic of the newsgroup. And with respect to
>>your question I'll quote from another of my posts on the very same topic; from
>>4387fvgp6l55e7ttr...@4ax.com:
>>
>>"I have no problem with them returning to try and spread more of their
>>mythology, but I don't think they will be very sucessful:..."
>>
>>Now I should probably provide YOU with a definition:
>>
>>Bias = a mental leaning; pariality; prejudice; narrow-mindedness.
>
>You have a overdose of bias. You are biased into feeling the need to
>control this newsgroup. Try being a little more "free and open".
Do you mean that I should be more accepting of discussions about illegal
behavior? Why should I? To make it more tolerable in this newsgroup for illegal
operators?
>>Now for MY question.......Tnom, do you prefer a newsgroup that is controlled by
>>a few tech-wannabes that promote illegal operation and give bad technical advice
>>to credulous people in order to boost their businesses?
>
>If it's free and open anyone can post. If they promote silly ideas
>then they'll be shot down.
So you're saying that it's ok to shoot down someone with a silly idea, but not
ok to shoot down someone who encourages the violation of federal laws or the
trashing of the Citizen's Band?
> You seem to forget two things.
>
>1 Your not a cop
Are you sure about that?
>2. Even if you were a cop a discussion of amps is not illegal.
I have even participated in a few discussions on the topic myself. What's your
point?
Frank Gilliland
Does that mean he -will- go elsewhere? Are you suggesting that I have some kind
of power over him to prevent him from posting here?
>Can you spell hypocrite!
Yep. Can you spell 'crybaby'?
Landshark
"Jos" <josuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:vf7vdq5...@corp.supernews.com...
> Frank..maybe I'm missing something here..if your not here to help..than
> what?..to harass??
> Let me restate..it's none of your business where I post..
> If that is hard for you to understand..let me suggest you buy a puppy, work
> with inner city children or go back to school. Because you either have too
> much time on your hands or you enjoy harassing people on newsgroups.
> If you are a ham..what is it you want?...
> Is this a need to feel important or needed?..Looking for acknowledgement?..
> Ok Frank, I acknowledge you...
> I acknowledge you have turned a simple question of repair into a fiasco from
> someone who is 'compulsive' about newgroups, 'CB's" and I still have'nt
> figured out exactly what you want...
> Either way, it is obvious you have nothing to contribute..so good bye..good
> luck and get a life...Regards..
> (What is it with some people today?...the water??..)
>
>
Hi Jos,
You have been introduced to one of our resident
rec.radio.cb trolls.
"Trolls may participate in the ensuing argument, or they may simply write "Drive-by Postings".
That is to say, they will ignite the flame war and then sit back and watch the show.
Cagey net users quickly recognize trolls for what they are and warn their fellow posters that
"You are being trolled" (or words to that effect). However, since there is a constant influx of
new users on the net, trolls are going to be able to entertain themselves for a long time to
come.
Trolls crave attention, and they care not whether it is positive or negative. They see the
Internet as a mirror into which they can gaze in narcissistic rapture.
An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is
usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people. Trolls see Internet communications
services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that
they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind
of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict.
Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it).
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate
with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They
cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules
of courtesy or social responsibility.
Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that
will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
If you want a deeper analysis than that, perhaps a psychologist can shed some additional light
on the matter.
Remember-"You can't have a picnic without ants"
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!"
North
<spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> said:
>
>Nope, not a ham. I just fix their equipment from time to time, usually when they
>can't find the problem themselves.
>
Do you have your GROL ?
Jos
"Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote in message
news:mAZIa.548$6v7.57...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
The Motor City Truck Driver
SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE... NOBODY ASKED YOU FOR YOUR FUCKING OPINION,
SO GO STAND IN THE CORNER OR SOMETHING
IDIOT FUCK!
-ME
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:15:02 -0700, Frank Gilliland
<spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> was blabbling:
...In <vf7lk04...@corp.supernews.com>, "Jos"
<josuh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
...<snip>
...>And Frank..I know they are illegal for CB..this is a 10 to 40
meter amp..
...
...You mean it doesn't work on 11 meters? Are you a ham?
...
...>Unfortunatly, I can't find another amatuer that knows beans about
radio or
...>would help...can talk alot and chastise..thus why I am here..
...
...How hard did you look for a knowledgable ham? Did you post on the
ham group as I
...suggested?
...
...
...=============
...
..."...but I admitted I was wrong, Like a man! Something you and QRM
...have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
...are both too small to admit it."
... ---- Twistedhed ----
...
...=============
...
...
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The Motor City Truck Driver
<spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> was blabbling:
...
...Yep. Can you spell 'crybaby'?
SHUT UP STUPID!
The Motor City Truck Driver
<spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> was blabbling:
...I...to credulous people in order to boost their businesses?
SHUT UP BITCH BOY, YOU ARE FUCKING OWNED BY ME UNTIL YOU LEAVE MOTHER
FUCKA!
The Motor City Truck Driver
<spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> was blabbling:
...216.64.140.66
HERE'S A TRACE ROUTE TO YOUR TROLL FOLKS...:
1 CAMPUS-VL4.GW.CMU.NET (128.2.4.1) 1.016 ms 0.717 ms 0.784 ms
2 CORE255-VL255.GW.CMU.NET (128.2.255.12) 1.562 ms 2.181 ms 0.816
ms
3 HYPER-VL501.GW.CMU.NET (128.2.33.225) 1.100 ms 1.021 ms 0.785
ms
4 bar-cmu-ge-4-0-0-0.psc.net (192.88.115.181) 1.487 ms 1.436 ms
2.008 ms
5 minime.psc.net (192.88.115.5) 2.494 ms 3.083 ms 2.221 ms
6 pos4-1-1-0.a01.pitbpa05.us.ra.verio.net (199.239.216.13) 2.195 ms
2.297 ms 2.034 ms
7 p4-2-1-0.r02.mclnva02.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.16.90) 7.566 ms
8.483 ms 7.458 ms
8 mae-east.twtelecom.com (198.32.187.48) 9.442 ms 10.146 ms 9.440
ms
9 core-02-so-3-1-0-0.chrl.twtelecom.net (66.192.242.37) 16.158 ms
15.334 ms 15.291 ms
10 dist-02-so-0-0-0-0.bois.twtelecom.net (168.215.55.49) 88.165 ms
85.291 ms 86.092 ms
11 66-192-248-2.gen.twtelecom.net (66.192.248.2) 86.956 ms 87.764
ms 87.541 ms
12 66-192-248-90.gen.twtelecom.net (66.192.248.90) 87.861 ms 88.270
ms 87.849 ms
13 207-170-224-90.gen.twtelecom.net (207.170.224.90) 91.753 ms
89.790 ms 90.363 ms
14 216-64-134-201.gen.twtelecom.net (216.64.134.201) 89.740 ms !H
90.657 ms !H 88.863 ms !H
ANYONE KNOW HIS ISP... WE CAN SHUT HIM DOWN!!!
Peter Fitztight
"The Motor City Truck Driver" <TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote
in message news:1bt8fvs7culhs67ml...@4ax.com...
Landshark
"The Motor City Truck Driver" <TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote in message
news:1bt8fvs7culhs67ml...@4ax.com...
> <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> was blabbling:
>
> ...216.64.140.66
>
>
> HERE'S A TRACE ROUTE TO YOUR TROLL
> FOLKS...:
>
<Useless dribble snipped>
>
> ANYONE KNOW HIS ISP... WE CAN SHUT HIM DOWN!!!
Um, Chuck, it's Frank Gilliand and he's done
nothing wrong other than to troll, so his ISP
couldn't care less.
jim
i was going to ask chuck a question, but f that, i'm going fishing even
if its still raining...
tn...@mucks.net
>>>>Whatever happened to" free and open discussion in rrcb " ?
>>>
>>>I freely and openly posted my response. Feel free to do the same.
>>>
>>And you negated the free and open part by telling him to go elsewhere.
>
>Does that mean he -will- go elsewhere? Are you suggesting that I have some kind
>of power over him to prevent him from posting here?
You just have power in your mind. Everyone else just sees you for what
you are. A pest.
>>Can you spell hypocrite!
>
>Yep. Can you spell 'crybaby'?
Pointing out the facts doesn't make me a crybaby. It just exposes you
for what you are.
pleco
> Go lay Down Chuckie before someone takes you out.
Lok out Chuck, looks like gay boy wants to take you out on a date
tn...@mucks.net
>>You have a overdose of bias. You are biased into feeling the need to
>>control this newsgroup. Try being a little more "free and open".
>
>Do you mean that I should be more accepting of discussions about illegal
>behavior? Why should I? To make it more tolerable in this newsgroup for illegal
>operators?
Whether you like it or not a discussions on a amp or illegal amps is a
legal discussion.
>>If it's free and open anyone can post. If they promote silly ideas
>>then they'll be shot down.
>
>So you're saying that it's ok to shoot down someone with a silly idea, but not
>ok to shoot down someone who encourages the violation of federal laws or the
>trashing of the Citizen's Band?
It's OK to shoot them down but it's not OK to muzzle or attempt to
muzzle them.
>> You seem to forget two things.
>>
>>1 Your not a cop
>
>Are you sure about that?
You must be the cop from the "Village People"
>>2. Even if you were a cop a discussion of amps is not illegal.
>
>I have even participated in a few discussions on the topic myself. What's your
>point?
The point is "Free and Open " discussion. Not attempted censorship.
Peter Fitztight
"pleco" <pleco.new...@web2news.net> wrote in message
news:4289...@web2news.com...
> Peter Fitztight in my mouth wrote:
> > Go lay Down Chuckie before someone takes you out.
>
> Lok out Chuck, looks like gay boy wants to take you out on a date
damn chimp bubba lots of gays thoughts prancing through your head.
Upton O'Good
>>>You have a overdose of bias. You are biased into feeling the need to
>>>control this newsgroup. Try being a little more "free and open".
>>
>>Do you mean that I should be more accepting of discussions
>> about illegal
>>behavior? Why should I? To make it more tolerable in this
>> newsgroup for illegal
>>operators?
>
> Whether you like it or not a discussions on a amp or
> illegal amps is a
> legal discussion.
Whether you like it or not comments about amps being illegal on cb are
legal comments. Even if they are sarcastic. Even if they are rude.
Comments about "CB rules" are protected by free speech. They cannot be
banned like you are trying to do in the yahoo amps group or the cb
tricks group.
>>>If it's free and open anyone can post. If they promote silly ideas
>>>then they'll be shot down.
>>
>>So you're saying that it's ok to shoot down someone with a
>> silly idea, but not
>>ok to shoot down someone who encourages the violation of
>> federal laws or the
>>trashing of the Citizen's Band?
>
> It's OK to shoot them down but it's not OK to muzzle or attempt to
> muzzle them.
I dont see how Frank was attempting to muzzle them. If you mean he was
posting that amps are illegal, then that is just telling the truth, not
muzzling. You guys just dont want to hear the truth. You want to have
amp discussions without any one bringing up the legality of using them
on CB, and that isnt gonna happen here.
The Motor City Truck Driver
was blabbling:
...Go lay Down Chuckie before someone takes you out.
...
you think you can? Bring it on.... I'm listed in the book... bring it
on... you got some balls? bring it on.... I ain't afriad of NOBODY!
I'm not talking FBI or POLICE or my ISP, I'm talking, if you wanna
come take me out, look up my address and come to my house and take me
out...I'm tired of the spineless weenies making thier idle threats...
if you think your BAD enough to come take me out... come on over, I
haven't been in good fist fight in about 10 years. I'd like to kick
the shit out of someone.
BRING IT ON NIGGA!
-Me
Peter Fitztight
Listen up Holmes, I gets my peoples after you I knowz the Latin Kounts, mang
do you kno what I am saying bato?
Toll Free
It was, and still is, a good amateur amplifier that takes either 25 watts,
or 100+ watts of drive.
So, seems you don't know exactly what you talk about, either. And the 300A
is far from a basic, generic CB type amp... They where also not cheap in
their days.
Toll_Free
"Upton O'Good" <markmywords....@web2news.net> wrote in message
news:4271...@web2news.com...
> Upton O'Good wrote:
> >I guess you tried all those and you couldn't find one ham
> > who could help you troubleshoot a simple generic rf
> > amplifier circuit.
>
> hey Josh maybe you got chastisement by other hams because using a
> Palomar on ham bands is not a good idea, they are cheaply made cb amps
> meaning they have poor or no harmonic filtering so you will splatter out
> of band etc. also if you are the same joshua I think you depend on frank
> for help too much I see he helped you fix your swan once.
Frank Gilliland
<S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
> Hi Jos,
>You have been introduced to one of our resident
>rec.radio.cb trolls.
<snip>
Hey Shark, how come you don't complain about Cranium, or Twistedhed, or GW, or
any of the great number of anonymous trolls that support illegal radio?
Frank Gilliland
<TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote:
>Hey Frank!
>
>
>SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE... NOBODY ASKED YOU FOR YOUR FUCKING OPINION,
>SO GO STAND IN THE CORNER OR SOMETHING
>
>
>IDIOT FUCK!
>
>
>-ME
Hey Shark, why don't you complain about this moron's language?
=============
"...but I admitted I was wrong, Like a man! Something you and QRM
have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
are both too small to admit it."
---- Twistedhed ----
=============
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
Frank Gilliland
<toll...@bigradios.com> wrote:
>Actually, the 300A will meet todays spurious emissions ratings.
No it won't. Not unless it's heavily modified and used with a big filter. You
need to update yourself on the current specifications.
>It was, and still is, a good amateur amplifier that takes either 25 watts,
>or 100+ watts of drive.
It's a TV sweep tube amp, designed and built for people that couldn't afford an
amp with a tube properly designed for power RF. We've been through this before,
Toll, do you want to go there again?
>So, seems you don't know exactly what you talk about, either. And the 300A
>is far from a basic, generic CB type amp... They where also not cheap in
>their days.
Cheaper (in both price and quality) than any legitimate amps.
Frank Gilliland
VERY GOOD POINT! Pointing out TECHNICAL facts doesn't make me a PEST. It just
exposes the wannabe-techs for what they are!
Frank Gilliland
prevent others from posting and controlling the newsgroup: LOOK AT THIS:
In <1bt8fvs7culhs67ml...@4ax.com>, The Motor City Truck Driver
<TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote:
Hey Shark, THIS guy is trying to prevent ME from posting! Doesn't that rank
somewhere on your list of newsgroup no-no's?
Frank Gilliland
<S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
> Um, Chuck, it's Frank Gilliand and he's done
>nothing wrong other than to troll, so his ISP
>couldn't care less.
>
> Landshark
WHAT? No long-winded speech about proper newsgroup behavior? No repetitive
whining about how you can't keep him in your killfile? No sarcastic remarks
about how he wants to prevent others from posting? No accusations that he's
trolling? No sermon about his using profanity? Well God Damn, Shark, you are one
BIG FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!
The Motor City Truck Driver
was blabbling:
...
..."The Motor City Truck Driver"
<TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote
...Listen up Holmes, I gets my peoples after you I knowz the Latin
Kounts, mang
...do you kno what I am saying bato?
..
That's stupid, the counts ain't been been in Business since the early
1990's most are dead or in prison
and I know the Iron Coffins. Wanna see who's meaner?
:-)
-Chuck
.
Frank Gilliland
>
>>>You have a overdose of bias. You are biased into feeling the need to
>>>control this newsgroup. Try being a little more "free and open".
>>
>>Do you mean that I should be more accepting of discussions about illegal
>>behavior? Why should I? To make it more tolerable in this newsgroup for illegal
>>operators?
>
>Whether you like it or not a discussions on a amp or illegal amps is a
>legal discussion.
WHERE DID I SAY IT WASN'T, TNOM? Why do assholes like you keep putting out that
line when I have NEVER said ANYTHING of the sort? LEARN TO READ!
>>>If it's free and open anyone can post. If they promote silly ideas
>>>then they'll be shot down.
>>
>>So you're saying that it's ok to shoot down someone with a silly idea, but not
>>ok to shoot down someone who encourages the violation of federal laws or the
>>trashing of the Citizen's Band?
>
>It's OK to shoot them down but it's not OK to muzzle or attempt to
>muzzle them.
You mean like Chuckie telling everyone to shut me down at my ISP? Why aren't you
complaining about HIM, Tnom? Are you sleeping with Hypocrite Shark these days?
>>> You seem to forget two things.
>>>
>>>1 Your not a cop
>>
>>Are you sure about that?
>
> You must be the cop from the "Village People"
>
>>>2. Even if you were a cop a discussion of amps is not illegal.
>>
>>I have even participated in a few discussions on the topic myself. What's your
>>point?
>
>The point is "Free and Open " discussion. Not attempted censorship.
WHERE have I tried to stop ANYONE from posting? Are you really that STUPID or
are you just acting?
Frank Gilliland
<TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote:
Bite me, Chuckie.
Frank Gilliland
>Thanks Landshark...well said...I will ignore him...
There are a long list of trolls in this newsgroup, Jos, and Landshark only
complains about a couple. OTOH, remember when I tried to help you out with that
Swan? Was I trolling then? Nope. What's the difference? You posted it in the
PROPER newsgroup.
So are you a ham? CBer? Both? Neither?
Peter Fitztight
The Counts are sure in business with a group near you in detroit. Iron
Coffins? They are german U boats and are not a gang.
http://chicagohoodz.com/gangs/latincounts.html
http://www.chitown.com/bigshoulders/gngmltnc.html
http://members.aol.com/jcac5/count.html
The Motor City Truck Driver
was blabbling:
...
...The Counts are sure in business with a group near you in detroit.
Iron
...Coffins? They are german U boats and are not a gang.
...
...
Uhmmmm.... http://www.ironcoffins.com
...http://chicagohoodz.com/gangs/latincounts.html
...http://www.chitown.com/bigshoulders/gngmltnc.html
...http://members.aol.com/jcac5/count.html
...
I've seen those pages before. and like I said, they're out of
business, or more less selling drugs now, they're hardcore days are
over.
I know a few of them myself.
The Motor City Truck Driver
<spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> was blabbling:
...
...
...Bite me, Chuckie.
I'm sorry, I'm fresh out of Microscopes.
LOL
-Chuck
tn...@mucks.net
>>Pointing out the facts doesn't make me a crybaby. It just exposes you
>>for what you are.
>
>VERY GOOD POINT! Pointing out TECHNICAL facts doesn't make me a PEST. It just
>exposes the wannabe-techs for what they are!
>
>
Now if you can just keep to your words " Pointing out TECHNICAL facts"
If you could just keep to this then we'd all be better off.
tn...@mucks.net
>> Whether you like it or not a discussions on a amp or
>> illegal amps is a
>> legal discussion.
>
>Whether you like it or not comments about amps being illegal on cb are
>legal comments. Even if they are sarcastic. Even if they are rude.
>Comments about "CB rules" are protected by free speech. They cannot be
>banned like you are trying to do in the yahoo amps group or the cb
>tricks group.
I have nothing to do with that group. Their group is private and they
can do what they like with it.
>I dont see how Frank was attempting to muzzle them. If you mean he was
>posting that amps are illegal, then that is just telling the truth, not
>muzzling. You guys just dont want to hear the truth. You want to have
>amp discussions without any one bringing up the legality of using them
>on CB, and that isnt gonna happen here.
Bringing up legalities is one matter. Telling him to go elsewhere is
another.
Landshark
Oh God, Chuck's out on leave
from the funny farm.
Here Chuck, maybe this will
help you see things different:
"Trolls may participate in the ensuing argument, or they may simply write "Drive-by Postings".
That is to say, they will ignite the flame war and then sit back and watch the show.
Cagey net users quickly recognize trolls for what they are and warn their fellow posters that
"You are being trolled" (or words to that effect). However, since there is a constant influx of
new users on the net, trolls are going to be able to entertain themselves for a long time to
come.
Trolls crave attention, and they care not whether it is positive or negative. They see the
Internet as a mirror into which they can gaze in narcissistic rapture.
An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is
usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people. Trolls see Internet communications
services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that
they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind
of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict.
Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it).
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate
with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They
cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules
of courtesy or social responsibility.
Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that
will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
If you want a deeper analysis than that, perhaps a psychologist can shed some additional light
on the matter.
Remember-"You can't have a picnic without ants"
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!
What is a troll?
The term "troll" can mean a number of different things, but in essence, a troll is a person who
aims to have 'pleasure' at your expense. There are two main types of trolls:
1.. people who are psychologically disturbed, and seek to feel good by making other list
members feel bad. This is a sort of "psycho troll", whose deception involves deceiving
themselves as well as others. In this respect, they are no different to the sorts of people we
meet in everyday life who are disturbed - some of them are easy to spot, and others aren't.
Such people may even use their real names on the internet, and they may not even realize that
they are "trolling" because it is all subconscious.
2.. people who pretend to be someone that they are not - they create personae that you think
are real, but they know is fictitious.
Trolling can be played at various levels...."
Landshark
"jim" <3car...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:3EF490C6...@optonline.net...
>
>
> The Motor City Truck Driver wrote:
> > Hey Frank!
>Other usless dribble snipped>
>
> i was going to ask chuck a question, but f that, i'm going fishing even
> if its still raining...
Fishing was good thank you. Caught six Rainbow
trout's in the 7 to 10" range and a couple more about
14". My daughter reeled in one of the 14" (she's only
four, she was thrilled)
The Motor City Truck Driver
was blabbling:
.
... Oh God, Chuck's out on leave
...from the funny farm.
... Here Chuck, maybe this will
...help you see things different:
you calling me a troll?? and funny farm WTF???
lol...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/k8cpa
I did a major overhaul of the site... take a look.
-Chuck
Frank Gilliland
Why should I limit my topics in "free and open discussion"?
Frank Gilliland
<TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 02:23:57 GMT, "Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.>
>was blabbling:
>
>.
>... Oh God, Chuck's out on leave
>...from the funny farm.
>... Here Chuck, maybe this will
>...help you see things different:
>
>
>you calling me a troll??
He did it so he doesn't look like the HYPOCRITE that he is.
gw
uh oh toll free.........you just went and did it now.........you
pissed in akc cornflakes......
Peter Fitztight
"Landshark" <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote in message
news:cr8Ja.2130$zb2....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> >Other usless dribble snipped>
> Fishing was good thank you. Caught six Trouser >trout's in the 7 to 10"
Peter Fitztight
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:26:52 -0400, "Peter Fitztight" <m...@hilo.com>
> was blabbling:
>
> ...
>
> ...The Counts are sure in business with a group near you in detroit.
> Iron
> ...Coffins? They are german U boats and are not a gang.
> ...
> ...
>
> Uhmmmm.... http://www.ironcoffins.com
Uhhhmmmm.... The page cannot be displayed
> ...http://chicagohoodz.com/gangs/latincounts.html
> ...http://www.chitown.com/bigshoulders/gngmltnc.html
> ...http://members.aol.com/jcac5/count.html
> ...
>
> I've seen those pages before. and like I said, they're out of
> business, or more less selling drugs now, they're hardcore days are
> over.
>
> I know a few of them myself.
I remember reading where you threatened the group with them a few years
back.
>
>
>
Randy
"Peter Fitztight" <m...@hilo.com> wrote in message
news:YsednfajuKF...@comcast.com...
>
> "The Motor City Truck Driver" <TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org>
wrote
> in message news:0uv9fv8bgougii8c1...@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:26:52 -0400, "Peter Fitztight" <m...@hilo.com>
> > was blabbling:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > ...The Counts are sure in business with a group near you in detroit.
> > Iron
> > ...Coffins? They are german U boats and are not a gang.
> > ...
> > ...
> >
> > Uhmmmm.... http://www.ironcoffins.com
>
>
> Uhhhmmmm.... The page cannot be displayed
>
Sure it can. Fix your browser or connection.
Landshark
"Randy" <rcha...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5m9Ja.7066$XV.5...@twister.austin.rr.com...
Double clicked, went right there.
Peter Fitztight
LOL I did thanks Randy.
>
>
>
Peter Fitztight
"Randy" <rcha...@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5m9Ja.7066$XV.5...@twister.austin.rr.com...
>
jim
Landshark wrote:
> "jim" <3car...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:3EF490C6...@optonline.net...
>
>>
>>The Motor City Truck Driver wrote:
>>
>>>Hey Frank!
>>
>
>>Other usless dribble snipped>
>
>
>>i was going to ask chuck a question, but f that, i'm going fishing even
>>if its still raining...
>
>
> Fishing was good thank you. Caught six Rainbow
> trout's in the 7 to 10" range and a couple more about
> 14". My daughter reeled in one of the 14" (she's only
> four, she was thrilled)
>
> Landshark
>
>
catch/release or dinner?
gw
frank you have been on here for what is it now? three freekin years
and some change....?? i mean give it a break......your point has been
noted for crying out loud..........amps have been on cb almost since
its inception......do you think you are going to change that????
nope....so you do the only thing you can about it and that is get on
the internet and whine about it.........since you obviously have been
put on hold by some kid down the street.......well boo hoo
hoo.......too bad........frank you are not going to stop us from
talking about amps, or using amps or buying amps or anything
else..........kc's rule frank.........get over it................
Landshark
"jim" <3car...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:3EF5B6C0...@optonline.net...
I was up at Calaveras Big Tree's for the day,
visiting friends that were camping with their kids.
Most of the small one's swallowed the hook,
one of the big one's we kept just so my daughter
could say she caught one. He had a smoker, so he
was going to smoke them , then eat some & give
away the rest.
Landshark
"gw" <g...@webhideout.com> wrote in message
news:235a74db.03062...@posting.google.com...
Hey GW, in your opinion, what's he here
for then? To answer Frank's question, he must
have missed my response to Chuck:
"The Motor City Truck Driver" <TheGearG...@doubleclutchusa.org> wrote in message
news:1bt8fvs7culhs67ml...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 05:51:31 -0700, Frank Gilliland
> <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> was blabbling:
>
> ...216.64.140.66
>
>
> HERE'S A TRACE ROUTE TO YOUR TROLL
> FOLKS...:
>
<Useless dribble snipped>
>
> ANYONE KNOW HIS ISP... WE CAN SHUT HIM DOWN!!!
Um, Chuck, it's Frank Gilliand and he's done
nothing wrong other than to troll, so his ISP
couldn't care less.
Landshark
Landshark
--
You can stand tall without standing on someone. You can be a victor without having victims.
Richard Cranium
> In <KJ_Ia.1986$eS6....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, "Landshark"
> <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
>
>
> > Um, Chuck, it's Frank Gilliand and he's done
> >nothing wrong other than to troll, so his ISP
> >couldn't care less.
> >
> > Landshark
>
> whining about how you can't keep him in your killfile? No sarcastic remarks
> about how he wants to prevent others from posting? No accusations that he's
> trolling? No sermon about his using profanity? Well God Damn, Shark, you are one
> BIG FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!
Whine, whine, whine! Give it a rest, Frankie-boy.
Don't you have a broadcast xmtr to tune or something else important to
do? Didn't think so. TROLL!
Aaron Voobner Sr.
> Frank Gilliland <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in
>> In <KJ_Ia.1986$eS6....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, "Landshark"
>> <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
>>
>>> Um, Chuck, it's Frank Gilliand and he's done
>>>nothing wrong other than to troll, so his ISP
>>>couldn't care less.
>>>
>>> Landshark
>>
>> WHAT? No long-winded speech about proper newsgroup
>> behavior? No repetitive
>> whining about how you can't keep him in your killfile? No
>> sarcastic remarks
>> about how he wants to prevent others from posting? No
>> accusations that he's
>> trolling? No sermon about his using profanity? Well God
>> Damn, Shark, you are one
>> BIG FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!
>
> Whine, whine, whine! Give it a rest, Frankie-boy.
>
> Don't you have a broadcast xmtr to tune or something else
> important to
> do? Didn't think so. TROLL!
Don't you have a pirate station to run or a 10 meter cb radio to defend,
ass boy?
--
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http://web2news.com/?rec.radio.cb
pleco
> Don't you have a pirate station to run or a 10 meter cb
> radio to defend,
> ass boy?
Don't you have a cock to suck, Gayboy?
Aaron Voobner Sr.
> Aaron Voobner Sr. wrote:
>> Don't you have a pirate station to run or a 10 meter cb
>> radio to defend,
>> ass boy?
>
> Don't you have a cock to suck, Gayboy?
OK, that was a definite troll post. Landshark, do your stuff.
gw
> Frank..maybe I'm missing something here..if your not here to help..than
> what?..to harass??
> Let me restate..it's none of your business where I post..
> If that is hard for you to understand..let me suggest you buy a puppy, work
> with inner city children or go back to school. Because you either have too
> much time on your hands or you enjoy harassing people on newsgroups.
> If you are a ham..what is it you want?...
> Is this a need to feel important or needed?..Looking for acknowledgement?..
> Ok Frank, I acknowledge you...
> I acknowledge you have turned a simple question of repair into a fiasco from
> someone who is 'compulsive' about newgroups, 'CB's" and I still have'nt
> figured out exactly what you want...
> Either way, it is obvious you have nothing to contribute..so good bye..good
> luck and get a life...Regards..
> (What is it with some people today?...the water??..)
>
>
> "Frank Gilliland" <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message
> > In <vf7su35...@corp.supernews.com>, "Jos" <josuh...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >Frank..
> > >I think it is my business where I post for help.
> > >Most amatuer linears will work on 11 meters..that is a moot question.
> > >Perhaps you should concern yourself with your own affairs if you are not
> > >willing to offer help.
> >
> > I have no problem with helping anyone fix any ham equipment I am familiar
> with,
> > just not here because this is a CB newsgroup. And as some other poster
> pointed
> > out, are you the same Jos that had the problems with the Swan?
> >
> >
> > =============
> >
> > "...but I admitted I was wrong, Like a man! Something you and QRM
> > have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
> > are both too small to admit it."
> > ---- Twistedhed ----
> >
> > =============
> >
> >
> > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
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gilligan tried the 'helping children thing' a few years ago, but that
didn't work out too well.......
Frank Gilliland
wrote:
Those are the same old keyclown arguments that have been disproved countless
times. Got any new and valid arguments? No? Go cry to Hypocrite Landshark about
you being a troll.
Frank Gilliland
>Aaron Voobner Sr. wrote:
>> Don't you have a pirate station to run or a 10 meter cb
>> radio to defend,
>> ass boy?
>
>Don't you have a cock to suck, Gayboy?
Sic 'em, Hypocrite Landshark!
Frank Gilliland
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
You are saying that >I< am a troll for pointing out Landshark's hypocrisy, when
all you do is chase me and "George" around, contributing nothing more to the
group than your incessant attempts at ridicule?
Here's another one for ya, Hypocrite Landshark!
Aaron Voobner Jr
"pleco" <pleco.new...@web2news.net> wrote in message
news:4313...@web2news.com...
> Aaron Voobner Sr. wrote:
> > Don't you have a pirate station to run or a 10 meter cb
> > radio to defend,
> > ass boy?
>
> Don't you have a cock to suck, Gayboy?
Easy iceColdNYC, you sure like to spit those racial epitaths, plus you like
talking about dick way too much for me.
Aaron Voobner Jr
"Frank Gilliland" <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message
> In <4313...@web2news.com>, "pleco" <pleco.new...@web2news.net>
wrote:
>
> >Aaron Voobner Sr. wrote:
> >> Don't you have a pirate station to run or a 10 meter cb
> >> radio to defend,
> >> ass boy?
> >
> >Don't you have a cock to suck, Gayboy?
>
> Sic 'em, Hypocrite Landshark!
Hyposhark
Aaron Voobner Jr
"Frank Gilliland" <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message
> Those are the same old keyclown arguments that have been disproved
countless
> times. Got any new and valid arguments? No? Go cry to Hypocrite Landshark
about
> you being a troll.
Nah Frank they are not trolls they are allowed to do that they are
keyclowns they follow no rulez!
Skipp tried the decafe says its no good
If you're not a regular troll... let's see now...
First off, get a pin out of the 6LF6 tube and the 300a amplifier. A google
search should find the tube data sheet and www.cbtricks.com will get you a
diagram for the amplifier.
Unplug the amplifier... allow it to rest for 20 min to drain the power
supply caps down.
Using an ohm meter, measure the resistance from the tube cathodes to
ground. Both stages should have less than 100 ohms resistance to ground.
check that first...
cheers
skipp
http://sonic.ucdavis.edu
Skipp says hello from the heat wave
low power mode with 40 watts and they do just fine. They were not cheaply
made... actually they are pretty well made when compared to designs like
the Dentron and Amp Supply circuits which are/were conventional Amateur
Amps.
"no harmonic filtering"..? I guess that pi output circuit means nothing
to you. You might as well go say the same thing to the other amp mfgrs...
Splatter from a Palomar 300a most often means the amplifier is over
driven. Otherwise they are pretty clean for the most part.
: Upton O'Good <markmywords....@web2news.net> wrote:
: hey Josh maybe you got chastisement by other hams because using a
Skipp
: Actually, the 300A will meet todays spurious emissions ratings.
It might under certain conditions... but I doubt it. Very close to the
wire though. Convert it to a Pi-L output and it would without doubt.
: It was, and still is, a good amateur amplifier that takes either 25 watts,
: or 100+ watts of drive.
No way Jose... in high power mode... about 4 watts am carrier is max
drive. In low power mode, drive it with about 40 watts max... that's it,
period. Operation in low power mode might require you set up and use a
modern solid state radio's antenna tuner. If you have a tube final radio
driving the amp in low power mode, chances are the tube radio has a tuned
circuit (might be a pi circuit) which will properly match the Palomar.
The 300a in low power mode has no tuned input stage. Tuned input is a big
deal. Tube radios have tuned output which works ok for the most part.
Solid state radios might require a tuner circuit to provide the proper
flywheel effect (tuned input circuit), much less distortion.
: So, seems you don't know exactly what you talk about, either. And the 300A
: is far from a basic, generic CB type amp... They where also not cheap in
: their days.
True... I spoke with one of the people behind the original palomar
amplifier lineup... they chose the sweep tube layout for the lower plate
voltage... thinking fewer people would kill themselves with the covers
off.
: Toll_Free
cheers
skipp
http://sonic.ucdavis.edu
Skipp is here to dance disco again
:>Actually, the 300A will meet todays spurious emissions ratings.
: No it won't. Not unless it's heavily modified and used with a big
: filter. You need to update yourself on the current specifications.
No it probably wont meet current FCC regs as a commercial or amateur
amplifier FOR SALE AS A NEW/CURRENT MODEL.
Properly operated, it's probably fine for current amateur bands. Same as
the Dentron, Amp Supply, Galaxy and other vintage sweep tube
amateur amplifiers.
What's a "big filter"..? Like most current tube amplifiers, the more
practical output section would be a Pi-L layout. A Pi-L output doesn't
have to be really big.
:>It was, and still is, a good amateur amplifier that takes either 25 watts,
:>or 100+ watts of drive.
: It's a TV sweep tube amp, designed and built for people that couldn't
: afford an amp with a tube properly designed for power RF. We've been
: through this before,
How do you claim to know the owner couldn't afford a different amp..? Many
owners prefered the smaller desktop footprint and the practical power
gain. Best of all, you could run it using a common 15 amp 117vac house
electrical outlet. Larger power amplifiers often require upgraded AC
service into the shack. Made a lot of condo owners choose the smaller
desktop Sweep tube Amplifiers made by various mfgrs... including
the Palomar brand.
How about a cost effective mid size amplifier. Palomar even used that darn
8950 tube. It along with the common (and current) EL-509/519 and
Maco 2057 tubes are considered Sweep type tubes by convention, but never
saw a service in TV set. Yet they were/are designed for service in RF
power circuits. Funny how that all works out...
: Toll, do you want to go there again?
Been there, done that, coffee mug and tee shirt.
:>So, seems you don't know exactly what you talk about, either. And the 300A
:>is far from a basic, generic CB type amp... They where also not cheap in
:>their days.
: Cheaper (in both price and quality) than any legitimate amps.
What makes an amplifier Legitimate...? The 300a was sold as a legal
legitimate mid size amplifier. After the FCC "CB amplifier ban", reworked
similar type amplifiers appeared on the market under brand names such as
Dentron & Amp Supply. Similar type of circuits in a different color
cabinet...
chow for now
skipp
http://sonic.ucdavis.edu
Aaron Voobner Sr.
> : It was, and still is, a good amateur amplifier that
> takes either 25 watts,
> : or 100+ watts of drive.
>
> No way Jose... in high power mode... about 4 watts
>am carrier is max
> drive. In low power mode, drive it with about 40 watts
> max... that's it,
> period. Operation in low power mode might require you set
> up and use a
> modern solid state radio's antenna tuner. If you have a
> tube final radio
> driving the amp in low power mode, chances are the tube
> radio has a tuned
> circuit (might be a pi circuit) which will properly match
> the Palomar.
Why was this "amateur" amplifier designed for 4 watts of drive?
Jos
I got her going..was the relay board connections...
I have another one working on...think the 2n2905a transistors are
history. Won't switch the transmitt relay..think it's not sensing the RF
in..ordering some transistors. Keep you posterd..
"Skipp tried the decafe says its no good" <spamfran...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:bd79qe$c19$1...@woodrow.ucdavis.edu...
Aaron Voobner Sr.
> Hi Skipp..
> I got her going..was the relay board connections...
> I have another one working on...think the 2n2905a transistors are
> history. Won't switch the transmitt relay..think it's not
> sensing the RF
> in..ordering some transistors. Keep you posterd..
Jos are you a ham?
Aaron Voobner Sr.
> Hi Skipp..
> I got her going..was the relay board connections...
> I have another one working on...think the 2n2905a transistors are
> history. Won't switch the transmitt relay..think it's not
> sensing the RF
> in..ordering some transistors. Keep you posterd..
Jos are you a ham?
Skipp says wheres the house blend
Cool, remember... 4 watts max drive on high power. No more than 40 watts
drive on low power, you should have a loud, clean and clear signal.
: I have another one working on...think the 2n2905a transistors are
: history. Won't switch the transmitt relay..think it's not sensing the RF
: in..ordering some transistors. Keep you posterd..
OK, good amp... actually pretty reliable for something made in the 70's
and 80's.
cheers
skipp
http://sonic.ucdavis.edu
Aaron Voobner Sr.
> : Jos <josuh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> : Hi Skipp..
> : I got her going..was the relay board connections...
>
> Cool, remember... 4 watts max drive on high power. No
> more than 40 watts
> drive on low power, you should have a loud, clean and clear signal.
oh so it was intended to be driven by a 4 watt cb rig and used
illegally. Thanks for confirming that skippy....
Richard Cranium
> In <c5ecbb69.03062...@posting.google.com>, richc...@yahoo.com
> (Richard Cranium) wrote:
>
> >Frank Gilliland <spa...@NOSPAMaimcomm.net> wrote in message news:<60s9fvc5cs2n98pc3...@4ax.com>...
> >> In <KJ_Ia.1986$eS6....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, "Landshark"
> >> <S3B...@SBCGlobal.Net.> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > Um, Chuck, it's Frank Gilliand and he's done
> >> >nothing wrong other than to troll, so his ISP
> >> >couldn't care less.
> >> >
> >> > Landshark
> >>
> >> WHAT? No long-winded speech about proper newsgroup behavior? No repetitive
> >> whining about how you can't keep him in your killfile? No sarcastic remarks
> >> about how he wants to prevent others from posting? No accusations that he's
> >> trolling? No sermon about his using profanity? Well God Damn, Shark, you are one
> >> BIG FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!
> >
> >Whine, whine, whine! Give it a rest, Frankie-boy.
> >
> >Don't you have a broadcast xmtr to tune or something else important to
> >do? Didn't think so. TROLL!
>
> You are saying that >I< am a troll for pointing out Landshark's hypocrisy, when
> all you do is chase me and "George" around, contributing nothing more to the
> group than your incessant attempts at ridicule?
Hey, you surprise me with your comprehension! That's precisely what
I'm saying, but it's not only for that single post. All you,
Georgie-girl, and Douggie-style ever do is troll and cause trouble.
None of you have ever answered a serious question. I have, but I'm not
going to get into a contest with you; I don't see any reason to have a
battle of wits with an unarmed person like yourself.
I don't have to "chase you around"; you are more than willing to stick
your neck out and become a target. You said you were leaving the
newsgroup and proved yourself to be a liar by coming right back. You
have less credibility than the non-existent Aanal Aaron and you have
only yourself to blame for that fact.
But as usual, you avoid and ignore the salient points: Don't you have
a broadcast transmitter to work on? It would seem that somebody of
your alleged importance would be too busy to troll the UseNet CB
group.
Noraa H. Renboov Jr
"Richard Cranium" <richc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c5ecbb69.03062...@posting.google.com...
It would seem that somebody of
> your alleged importance would be too busy to troll the UseNet CB
> group.
What is your excuse for trolling this group?
Jos
There are two small diodes near the 2n2905a's transistors...Look like
small switching diodes. No disignation on the scedmatic..Do you know what
they are? or use a generic one?..Think I'll change them out too. Have the
1n4005's diodes changed out already... Thanks..Jos
"Skipp says wheres the house blend" <spamboobne...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:bd7mlv$hvf$1...@woodrow.ucdavis.edu...
Renboov, Noraa, Rs.
> Hi Skipp..
> There are two small diodes near the 2n2905a's
> transistors...Look like
> small switching diodes. No disignation on the
> scedmatic..Do you know what
> they are? or use a generic one?..Think I'll change them
> out too. Have the
> 1n4005's diodes changed out already... Thanks..Jos
Jos, are you going to use this amp on 11 meters? Skipp, you should be
ashamed of yourself but we forget you get a thrill from urging people to
break laws.
Scott #69!!!
Jos wrote:
>
> Hi Skipp..
> There are two small diodes near the 2n2905a's transistors...Look like
> small switching diodes. No disignation on the scedmatic..Do you know what
> they are? or use a generic one?..Think I'll change them out too. Have the
> 1n4005's diodes changed out already... Thanks..Jos
Little small glass ones orange in color with a black stripe? 1N4148
Jos
"Scott #69!!!" <scott_...@yahoo.slam> wrote in message
news:3EF77826...@yahoo.slam...
Skipp
: Why was this "amateur" amplifier designed for 4 watts of drive?
Probably to match a series of radios with low output power. Kenwood and
other mfgrs made many low power hf rigs. Kenwood even made a matching
amplifier for said... I have one.
Now, what was your real name again..?
:-)
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