Sirius and XM antennas interchangeable?
Mail Ias
about trying XM too. Can I use the same antenna by just switching it over to
the XM receiver?
The antenna I have is the one made by Terk that looks like a mouse. Terk
makes versions for XM and Sirius, and by looking at them the only difference
is the screen printing of the respective logos.
So, can anyone anwer whether or not this will work???
R J Carpenter
During the tour of XM this past Wednesday, the VP Operations of XM said
that the antennas are compatible with both XM and Sirius. He was
pointing at a Terk mouse/hockey-puck antenna while saying this.
His answer was in reply to a question about when radios that will tune
both XM & Sirius would be available. "Antennas are now. The antenna may
have an XM or Sirius logo, but they are the same." FWIW
Mail Ias
What about the complete answer to that question: when will tuners that handle
both services be available?
In article <aei4mq$65m$1...@xuxa.iecc.com>, R J Carpenter <rca...@erols.com>
wrote:
John Higdon
> Thanks exactly what I was looking to hear, thanks!
>
> What about the complete answer to that question: when will tuners that handle
> both services be available?
When they realize that having two separate, incompatible services isn't
going to make it.
Furthermore, the drift in business today is conglomeration. Companies HATE
competition...it gives the consumer choices. Today's business ethic is to
take away as many choices as possible from the consumer so that he is forced
to buy your product at whatever price you wish to charge.
It only makes sense that one of the two services will buy the other out
before the game is up.
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R J Carpenter
>
> Thanks exactly what I was looking to hear, thanks!
>
> What about the complete answer to that question: when will tuners that handle
> both services be available?
"4 or 5 years" ... I suspect it depends a lot on relative sales. IMO,
XM isn't going to see an advantage to a dual standard receiver as long
as they are way ahead in receiver sales. I'd guess it would take a year
or more to engineer a suitable XM/Sirius decoder chip, and the delay
would start AFTER both companies agreed that it was better to have
dual-standard receivers. I can see all sorts of problems in getting
cooperating, given proprietary nature of both companies' algorithms.
IIRC, the FCC requires dual-standard receivers, but AFAIK there is no
real deadline. The VP postulated that someday there might be
programmable receivers that configured themselves for XM, Sirius, or
IBOC depending on which button you pressed - but using common decoding
hardware.
Cooperstown.Net
or Viacom than to merge with one another. As for disappearing choice, my
question is, which industries? The Wonder Bread era is over. Everywhere I
look I seen greater choice and increasing consumer sophistication, whether
it's radio, TV, computers, beverages, breads, cheeses, fitness equipment,
whatever. Some lost choice perhaps from overly aggressive exploitation,
such as seafood and hardwood products, but, for the most part, consumers
rule.
Although on second thought why must every toaster be a wide-slot,
bagel-smart toaster? Try toasting two pieces of bread in one of these, the
minutes tick away, you're basically powering a small radio station, and the
bread barely warms let alone thoroughly toasts. In making a toaster overly
accommodating we have destroyed its value as a specialty appliance. Never
mind, John. I've answered my own question.
Jerome
"John Higdon" wrote in message news:aeja18$4su$1...@xuxa.iecc.com...
> > What about the complete answer to that question: when will tuners that
handle
> > both services be available?
>
Mail Ias
Terk the antennas are NOT compatible:
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Thank you for your interest in Terk Products. The XM and Sirius roof mount
antennas are not interchangeable. They work on different frequency ranges. You
will need to purchase a separate antenna for each service. If you have
additional questions, feel free to contact Customer Service.
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John Higdon
> As for disappearing choice, my
> question is, which industries?
For starters, how about radio? The vast majority of stations today are in
the hands of five companies and are run out of places like Tampa and San
Antonio. Some choice, eh?
> The Wonder Bread era is over. Everywhere I
> look I seen greater choice and increasing consumer sophistication, whether
> it's radio, TV, computers, beverages, breads, cheeses, fitness equipment,
> whatever.
Are you operating in another, parallel universe? Radio and TV have never
been more bland and homogenized. Computing? Bill Gates controls 95% of the
world's desktops. Beverages are made by three major bottling/licensing
companies. If you like Coke or Pepsi, you will do fine. Otherwise...
> Some lost choice perhaps from overly aggressive exploitation,
> such as seafood and hardwood products, but, for the most part, consumers
> rule.
Come to San Jose some time and find out how limited your choices are for
high-speed Internet. No cable modems. Very limited DSL (all from SBC). And
that's it. Yeah, the consumer rules, all right!
> Although on second thought why must every toaster be a wide-slot,
> bagel-smart toaster? Try toasting two pieces of bread in one of these, the
> minutes tick away, you're basically powering a small radio station, and the
> bread barely warms let alone thoroughly toasts. In making a toaster overly
> accommodating we have destroyed its value as a specialty appliance. Never
> mind, John. I've answered my own question.
No. With all due respect, I don't think you have a clue about conglomeration
in this country and what it is doing to the consumer's choices.
ejxit
(Terk) antenna may be the same but the block converter (electronics) is
calibrated for their specific frequency.
ejxit
(Terk) antenna may be the same but the block converter (electronics) is
calibrated for their specific frequency.
George Jefferson
The initial investment would be alot easier to swallow if you could switch
services whenever you wanted.
:Sirius and XM operate on different frequencies within the 2 Ghz band. The Sirius
ejxit
soon.
R J Carpenter
Sirius uses 2320 to 2332.5 MHz. XM uses 2332.5 to 2345 MHz. The total
bandwidth required is about 10%. It would seem fairly straight-forward
to design antenna elements that cover the whole range.
Some have said the there is a down-converter within the antenna. If so,
that __might___ be a problem, but might __not__ be a problem either....
If there isn't a down-converter, there must be an amplifier to overcome
the high loss of the tiny coax cables at microwave. Wide-band, wide
dynamic range microwave amplifier chips cost less than one dollar in
quantity.
George Jefferson
:Sirius uses 2320 to 2332.5 MHz. XM uses 2332.5 to 2345 MHz. The total
:bandwidth required is about 10%. It would seem fairly straight-forward
:to design antenna elements that cover the whole range.
It sounds like the problem with dual band is more legal than technical.
If so, thats called shooting oneself in the foot.
John Higdon
No one seems to have pointed out that the "antenna" is the hidden-price
gotcha in these systems. Notice in the advertising the quickly read phrase,
"programming and antenna extra and billed separately".
No, there are no plans to make a universal unit. That would defeat the
entire point of the exercise: a hidden cost to make the deal look better to
the consuming public.
R J Carpenter
>
> No one seems to have pointed out that the "antenna" is the hidden-price
> gotcha in these systems. Notice in the advertising the quickly read phrase,
> "programming and antenna extra and billed separately".
The antenna is included in the basic price of the Sony XM unit. It isn't
an "extra".
John Byrns
<no-...@ClearChannel.RadioMonopoly.com> wrote:
> No one seems to have pointed out that the "antenna" is the hidden-price
> gotcha in these systems. Notice in the advertising the quickly read phrase,
> "programming and antenna extra and billed separately".
I can understand why the antenna migh not be included with the basic
radio, but why is it billed seperately, rather than with the radio? I
assume there is more to this than meets the eye, or than you have said.
Regards,
John Byrns
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