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Orator For Decency

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Feb 4, 2006, 3:05:44 AM2/4/06
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Sorry, omitted the international exhortations.....

Orator For Decency wrote:
> What is Ham Radio?
>
> (Preface)
> It is becoming increasingly difficult to fly the flag for
> decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery. Even
> the Usenet newsgroups dedicated to the cause have degenerated
> into a hotbed of abusive onslaughts by those who ought to know better.
> However, there still exists the fundamental basis on which Ham
> Radio is based, and that will never die. This FAQ ("What Is
> Ham Radio?") will be regularly published and will not be
> shouted or bullied down. It is important that those of a
> technical bent, who are the natural seed-corn of Radio Hammery
> and who gravitate towards us to be the real novitiate, can
> still find us, (and know that we are still here), their fellows.
>
> -----ooooo-----
>
> Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_
> to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity! (If you find
> otherwise, then perhaps you are already classing yourself in the
> mediocre groups of those who are criticised in the FAQ and from
> whom we _MUST_ dissociate? If so - it's never too late for
> a re-taxonomisation on your part - there's nothing elitist about
> us, and we welcome all those who are prepared to put themselves
> out in order to join our ranks!)
>
> -----ooooo-----
> (Article)
> So,.....What is Ham Radio?
>
> Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
> are interested in the science of radio wave
> propagation and who are also interested in the
> way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
> tradition of providing a source of engineers who
> are born naturals.
>
> Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
> fascination with all things technical and gives
> an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
> knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!
>
> This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
> with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
> gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.
>
> Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
> they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
> else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
> the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
> users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
> are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
> are qualified to design, build and then
> operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
> with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
> equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
> to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.
>
> The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
> relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
> his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
> of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
> generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
> the latter that communication with like-minded technically
> motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
> development grows with the years
> and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
> of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
> be learnt and applied.
>
> The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
> with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
> the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
> competitions and fox-hunts.
>
> -----OOOOO----
>
> However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
> desirable thing to have that there are large
> numbers of people who wish to be thought of
> as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
> of the kind! Usually such people are a
> variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
> radios off the shelf and send them back to be
> repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
> and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
> their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
> they are free with rather silly personal insults;
> they have not satisfied any technical qualification
> and their licences prevent the use of
> self-designed-and-built equipment.
>
> These CB types engage in the competitive activities
> with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
> in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.
>
> No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!
>
> -----ooooo-----
>
> One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
> known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
> had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
> in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
> Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
> 11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
> the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
> Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
> illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
> in possession of an appropriate licence.
>
> -----ooooo-----
>
> One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
> from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
> difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
> perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
> perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
> no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
> GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
> could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
> such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
> telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
> technical pursuit.
>
> A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
> a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
> sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
> tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
> Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
> a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
> issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
> M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.
>
> -----ooooo-----
>
> One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
> Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
> apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
> licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
> the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
> bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
> intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.
>
> 6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
> enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
> for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
> the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
> of the imagination!
>
> Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
> or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
> degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!

G4KFK

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Feb 4, 2006, 3:19:37 AM2/4/06
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Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote:
> Sorry, omitted the international exhortations.....

So did I.

You are the very model of a newsgroup personality.
You intersperse stupidity with tedious banality.
Psudonyms you've plenty of; both genuine and ghosted, too,
On all the countless newsgroups that your drivel is cross-posted to.
Our bandwidth you will fritter with your whining and your snivelling,
And we're the ones who pay the bills, downloading all your drivelling.
Your enemies are numerous, and no-one would be blaming us
For cracking your head open after you've been rudely flaming us.
You hate to lose an argument (by now you should be used to it).
You wouldn't know a valid point if you were introduced to it.
Your learning is extensive but consists of mindless trivia,
Designed to fan your ego, which is larger than Bolivia.
The comments that you vomit forth, disguised as jest and drollery,
Are really just an exercise in unremitting trollery.
You say you're frank and forthright, but that's merely lies and vanity,

The gibberings of a loonie on the limits of his sanity.


With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan :-)


73
Mike G4KFK

Spike

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Feb 4, 2006, 12:11:28 PM2/4/06
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G4KFK wrote:

>
>Gareth Alun Evans (G4SDW) wrote:
>
>> Sorry, omitted the international exhortations.....
>
>So did I.
>
>You are the very model of a newsgroup personality.
>You intersperse stupidity with tedious banality.
>Psudonyms you've plenty of; both genuine and ghosted, too,
>On all the countless newsgroups that your drivel is cross-posted to.

<snip>


>With apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan :-)

Has this chappy got as far as upgrading the so-called 'faq' (which
might be frequent but has little else to recommend it) to include the
warning that 'repairing with gusto' only applies to transistorised PAs
with low power output and not compact valve PAs with 600V on the
anodes?

If not, why did he introduce that caveat elsewhere?

Still, let us not forget this was the same chappy who sold an FT-101
because the tune-up pages were missing from the manual.


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G4KFK

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Feb 4, 2006, 12:54:04 PM2/4/06
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Spike wrote:
> Has this chappy got as far as upgrading the so-called 'faq' (which
> might be frequent but has little else to recommend it) to include the
> warning that 'repairing with gusto' only applies to transistorised PAs
> with low power output and not compact valve PAs with 600V on the
> anodes?

No, it's the same old drivel.

> If not, why did he introduce that caveat elsewhere?

His medication had worn off that day.

> Still, let us not forget this was the same chappy who sold an FT-101
> because the tune-up pages were missing from the manual.

We'll keep reminding him ... with gusto!

73
Mike G4KFK

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Orator For Decency

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Feb 4, 2006, 3:07:42 PM2/4/06
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If Mrs.Nugatory cannot deal with the simple electrical
and mechanical attributes of a tuning capacitor, it
really shows up her habituation for sneering for what it is -
the green eyes of jealousy!

Welcome back, Mr.Nedlar.

Nedlar wrote:


> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:11:28 +0000, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid>
> wrote:
> e?
> >Still, let us not forget this was the same chappy who sold an FT-101
> >because the tune-up pages were missing from the manual.
> >
>

> Let us not forget that it was you that posted this gem while you tried
> to repair something above your skill level........
> > spike spluttered
> >I've checked for tuning capacitor plates not rubbing each other, and
> >correct earthing for the tuning capacitor main shaft wipers. I can't
> >think of anything else.

Toxic Waste

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Feb 4, 2006, 3:36:10 PM2/4/06
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"Nedlar" <S...@techno.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Let us not forget that it was you that posted this gem while you tried
> to repair something above your skill level........
>

Try repairing M3SDW's brain, that's beyond anyone's skill level :-(

tox


Orator For Decency

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Feb 4, 2006, 4:51:05 PM2/4/06
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Are there any other snippets about Mrs.Nugatory?

The only things I know about her is her habit of cowering
behind twitching curtains, her watching of the film, "The
Bitches of Toko-Roko", and being able to prove in
20-page obsessive (and irrelevant) dissertations that I
know nothing about certain topics based purely on my
use of a comma in place of a semi-colon.

an_old_friend

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Feb 4, 2006, 5:13:05 PM2/4/06
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Orator For Decency wrote:
> Are there any other snippets about Mrs.Nugatory?
>
when will the orator for deceny accualy find some .

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Orator For Decency

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Feb 6, 2006, 1:26:43 PM2/6/06
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Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
a graphic illustration of the critique below!

Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
unmistakeable!

She demonstrates so well her neurotic obsession coupled
with her desperate need to make insulting remarks in a
long and vitriolic diatribe that once again, seizes on some
trivial and irrelevant point. (The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite)

Not only that, but by having to go to the web to find some
material to quote from somebody else, she demonstrates so
well that not only does she know nothing about the simple
mechanical and electrical properties of tuning condensers,
she knows nothing about anything and is incapable of
enjoining discussion off the top of her head. It is no
wonder that in an interest that is calimed to have lasted
for 50 years, she has not achieved any licence, not even
an M3/CB Fools' Licence promoted by the gangrenous
degeneration that is the RSCB council and all its members.

What a silly, silly girl is she!

Beowolf

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Feb 6, 2006, 1:43:57 PM2/6/06
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"Orator For Decency" <radi...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1139250403.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

> Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
> her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
> a graphic illustration of the critique below!
>
> Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
> author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
> unmistakeable!
>

You mean someone ELSE has proved you wrong. This is a common modus operandi

Beowulf

The Sweeny Psychiatrist

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Feb 6, 2006, 2:11:13 PM2/6/06
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The Psychiatrists report:

When the orator for decency aka Gareth Evans is challenged, criticised,
or just ridiculed,
He refers to the other person(s) as she.

So it seems in order to denigrate them he changes their gender to
female in his postings.

This is extremely interesting, and points to a hatred of females,
followed by their subjugation by him.
It could also be coupled to a deep loathing of his mother who possibly
failed him some way in his eyes.

Such problems are not uncommon in males who have a problem with normal
life.
Also it is quite common in sexually dysfunctional subjects.

I would warn females not to approach an individual with such a profile

His wife has a lot to endure with the obsessive nature of her husband,
and we should feel sorry for her.

This is a case that we will have to study more closely.

Wiggy

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Feb 6, 2006, 2:26:44 PM2/6/06
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Orator For Decency wrote:
> Actually, right on cue, Mrs.Nugatory has continued with
> her stalking of me, with another sock puppet that provides
> a graphic illustration of the critique below!
>
> Go to uk.rec.models.engineering, and google for
> author, "Novae Artes"; the modus operandi is
> unmistakeable!
>
> She demonstrates so well her neurotic obsession coupled
> with her desperate need to make insulting remarks in a
> long and vitriolic diatribe that once again, seizes on some
> trivial and irrelevant point. (The Yanks almost certainly will
> not have heard of Araldite)
>
> Not only that, but by having to go to the web to find some
> material to quote from somebody else, she demonstrates so
> well that not only does she know nothing about the simple
> mechanical and electrical properties of tuning condensers,
> she knows nothing about anything and is incapable of
> enjoining discussion off the top of her head. It is no
> wonder that in an interest that is calimed to have lasted
> for 50 years, she has not achieved any licence, not even
> an M3/CB Fools' Licence promoted by the gangrenous
> degeneration that is the RSCB council and all its members.
>
> What a silly, silly girl is she!
>

Hello Gazza, would you like me to drag up some more dirt from your past?
You know you wanna. Gowan, gowan, gowan.

1000 sov's to keep quite, OK?

Wiggy

Wiggy

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Feb 6, 2006, 2:36:13 PM2/6/06
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I know, QUIET OK! It's still 1000 sov's.

Wiggy

Orator For Decency

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Feb 6, 2006, 2:49:31 PM2/6/06
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Not-Ham throws an infantile temper tantrum at having
been outed as R-F-R, and invokes another of his many
deranged aliases in a desperate attempt to divert
attention away from him.....

The Sweeny Psychiatrist

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Feb 6, 2006, 3:03:02 PM2/6/06
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Spike

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Feb 6, 2006, 5:02:20 PM2/6/06
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Beowolf wrote:

I see from the interesting thread on uk.rec.models.engineering, and a
posting in this thread, that the OP has now gone into his 'deflect
attention' mode.

in this case he has chosen the mechanism - which he can name but
doubtless will not do so - of mentioning something irrelevant to
support what passes for his argument (if it can be graced with such a
name). He said that "The Yanks almost certainly will
not have heard of Araldite", completely missing the point that the
original development of the precursors to the Araldite range were
German and Swiss, and the product marketed internationally!

What a narrow outlook, slim technical base, and thin skin this chap
has.

BTW, what happened to his situation that has made his plea ("Sorry -
no Internet access during the week.") nugatory? Some sort of ISP
failure? A 'high moral stance' in relation to a professional concern?
One wonders - for a microsecond or so.

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huLLy

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Feb 6, 2006, 5:15:26 PM2/6/06
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Orator For Decency wrote:
> Not-Ham throws an infantile temper tantrum at having
> been outed as R-F-R, and invokes another of his many
> deranged aliases in a desperate attempt to divert
> attention away from him.....
>

Who?
--
huLLy
Tel: 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925


Beowulf

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Feb 6, 2006, 5:20:42 PM2/6/06
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"Spike" <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote in message
news:g0hfu1dvb9s4c6qhp...@4ax.com...

Araldite is well known in he USA.

Check out:

http://www.gluguru.com/Araldite2012.htm

http://www.isaadhesives.com/

Beowulf


Spike

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Feb 6, 2006, 5:39:24 PM2/6/06
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Beowulf wrote:

>
>"Spike" <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> wrote in message
>news:g0hfu1dvb9s4c6qhp...@4ax.com...
>>

>> What a narrow outlook, slim technical base, and thin skin this chap
>> has.
>>
>> BTW, what happened to his situation that has made his plea ("Sorry -
>> no Internet access during the week.") nugatory? Some sort of ISP
>> failure? A 'high moral stance' in relation to a professional concern?
>> One wonders - for a microsecond or so.
>
>Araldite is well known in he USA.
>
>Check out:
>
>http://www.gluguru.com/Araldite2012.htm
>
>http://www.isaadhesives.com/
>

What a pity this chap doesn't follow web links. One wonders quite why
he chooses to remain in ignorance, condemned to repeating the same
mistakes over and over.....

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