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Goodbye, eQSO

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Lloyd

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Aug 1, 2005, 6:15:20 AM8/1/05
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Now there is only one VoIP ham program left which is worth using:
Echolink.

Reason: You now have to register to use eQSO, but eQSO has vastly
inferior audio to Echolink. The friendly and trusting atmosphere has
vanished among eQSO operators, and that was in fact its one, redeeming
virtue. Now it has morphed into an inferior Echolink, and it is
simply not worth the effort required to register for it when one can
devote that effort to Echolink instead.

Goodbye, eQSO. You were fun while you lasted.

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ZZZZPK

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Aug 1, 2005, 8:14:39 AM8/1/05
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"Lloyd" <ll...@no.spam> wrote:

: Now there is only one VoIP ham program left which is worth using:
: Echolink.
:

which one sends the serial number of the hard disk back to the server ?

ZZZZPK

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Aug 1, 2005, 8:19:00 AM8/1/05
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Nedlar <Nedlar <m...@privacy.net>> wrote:

: On 1 Aug 2005 10:15:20 GMT, "Lloyd" <ll...@no.spam> wrote:
:
: >Now there is only one VoIP ham program left which is worth using:
: >Echolink.
:
: WRONG!
: There is not, and never has been, 'any' VoIP ham program worth using.

when youre right , youre right.

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news

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Aug 1, 2005, 9:47:31 AM8/1/05
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In message <av4se1lb222igdib6...@4ax.com>, Walt Davidson
<g3...@despammed.com> writes
>On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:14:39 GMT,
>zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@its-as-easy-as-they-say-multi_band_cb_is_here.eirco
>m.es.it.net
>Allegedly, eQSO. If true, this could be prosecutable under the Misuse
>of Computers Act.
>
>73 de G3NYY
>

Walt, eQSO PC Client 3.00 Build 1 does indeed send the hard disk serial
number back to the server. Here is an Ethereal dump I have just made of
one of my packets to the server (best viewed with fixed pitch font):

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
0000 00 c0 49 e0 4b f2 00 11 11 be 8e ba 08 00 45 00 ..I.K...
......E.
0010 00 7a 23 1d 40 00 80 06 e4 7a c0 a8 7b 64 42 b4 .z#.@...
.z..{dB.
0020 74 25 05 ee 27 28 5e 1f 1f fe 43 91 4c dc 50 18 t%..'(^.
..C.L.P.
0030 ff fa 8b 90 00 00 2c 01 00 00 29 65 cb e8 0b 02 ......,.
..)e....
0040 56 55 1a 05 47 33 4e 52 57 09 31 20 53 48 55 54 VU..G3NR W.1
SHUT
0050 54 4c 45 33 49 76 61 6e 2c 20 6f 6b 6f 6c 6f 20 TLE3Ivan ,
okolo
0060 4c 6f 6e 64 6f 6e 61 2c 20 55 4b 2c 20 20 49 4f Londona, UK,
IO
0070 39 31 73 78 2c 20 67 33 6e 72 77 40 79 61 68 6f 91sx, g3
nrw@yaho
0080 6f 2e 63 6f 2e 75 6b 00 o.co.uk.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hex bytes 003a, 003b, 003c and 003d (on the 4th row down) are "29 65 cb
e8". This is the serial number of my hard disk, in reverse byte order.

Just like it was when I reported it way back in July 2002.

--
73
Ian, G3NRW

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ZZZZPK

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Aug 1, 2005, 10:18:57 AM8/1/05
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news <ne...@care4free.net> wrote:

: --
: 73
: Ian, G3NRW


Nice man.

I bought your NosIntro book too :-)

- Jock.

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Aug 1, 2005, 10:17:17 AM8/1/05
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On 1 Aug 2005 10:15:20 GMT, "Lloyd" <ll...@no.spam> wrote:

>The friendly and trusting atmosphere has vanished amon

>eQSO operators,

As it invariably does amongst CB-ers.

Operators? Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa !

73 de Jock.
--

It is impossible to lick your elbow.

Chaney

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Aug 1, 2005, 11:11:13 AM8/1/05
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Extremely right...

--

Chaney

Chaney's World
www.chaney.i12.com

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Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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Aug 1, 2005, 11:34:17 AM8/1/05
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Walt Davidson wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:14:39 GMT,
> zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@its-as-easy-as-they-say-multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom.es.it.net
> (ZZZZPK ) wrote:
>
>
> Allegedly, eQSO. If true, this could be prosecutable under the Misuse
> of Computers Act.
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
When you activate Win doze XPee it sends details of several pieces of
your hardware to MS to build the activation code. Each time you re-start
XPee this code is checked to see if 'significant hardware changes' have
been made.
MS say this is their way of ensuring any XPee disk is only installed on
one PC, but if you don't go along with it you'll find that the XPee
set-up that _YOU_PAID_FOR_ becomes unusable after 90 days.
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

John Smith

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Aug 1, 2005, 11:50:57 AM8/1/05
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Frank:

A good reason to investigate linux, learn about it, become proficient in its
use and gain freedom from microsofts control.

Linux is free... you can download .iso files, burn the OS disks and free
yourself from microsofts control... or, simply pick up a copy at a software
store near you, it is very cheap for the already prepared disks and manual.

John

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Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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Aug 1, 2005, 11:58:53 AM8/1/05
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John Smith wrote:
> Frank:
>
> A good reason to investigate linux, learn about it, become proficient in its
> use and gain freedom from microsofts control.
>
> Linux is free... you can download .iso files, burn the OS disks and free
> yourself from microsofts control... or, simply pick up a copy at a software
> store near you, it is very cheap for the already prepared disks and manual.
>
> John
>
Thanks John, I run my web server, email server, DNS and loads of other
stuff on a Red Hat Linux 8.0 platform, and I'm very impressed with its
stability and multi-tasking capabilities. The PC concerned is an ancient
P200 that comes nowhere near the minimum requirements for XPee, but
despite its workload, I've not even had to reboot it so far this year.

John Smith

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Aug 1, 2005, 12:12:40 PM8/1/05
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Frank:

Excellent man! You are ahead of the pack. I commend you on keeping up with
technology and internet freedom!

John

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Dan/W4NTI

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Aug 1, 2005, 5:59:00 PM8/1/05
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"Lloyd" <ll...@no.spam> wrote in message
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Probably had nothing to do with any of what you said LLllllloooooyyyyyddddd.

People just got tired of talking to you.

Dan/W4NTI


scotland...@yahoo.co.uk

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Aug 1, 2005, 6:03:24 PM8/1/05
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But who actually cares what you think about Echolink/Eqso e.t.c. ?

ZZZZPK

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Aug 1, 2005, 6:19:41 PM8/1/05
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scotland...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

: But who actually cares what you think about Echolink/Eqso e.t.c. ?

i could have asked you the same but i thought that it THAT obvious enough

Dan/W4NTI

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Aug 1, 2005, 9:35:12 PM8/1/05
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<scotland...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> But who actually cares what you think about Echolink/Eqso e.t.c. ?
>

Real hams care.

Dan/W4NTI


with...@gmail.com

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Aug 3, 2005, 6:19:14 AM8/3/05
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I find Echolink is more interesting because all hams are there. Unlike
eQSO has limited hams there.

For new eQSO, they did not mention they want to my ham license for them
to process my registration. Echolink has mentioned on their website.

HS Phuah

scotland...@yahoo.co.uk

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Aug 3, 2005, 2:25:07 PM8/3/05
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I think the point should be, if you don't like Eqso/Echolink, don't use
it. Some people on this ng will be glad NOT to hear the anti-echolink
folk on it.

scotland...@yahoo.co.uk

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Aug 3, 2005, 2:40:32 PM8/3/05
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I great debate on what a REAL ham is coming over the horizon !! No
doubt everybody will agree on what a real ham is...... Hi.

scotland...@yahoo.co.uk

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Aug 3, 2005, 2:41:52 PM8/3/05
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19 19 for a coffee

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI

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Aug 3, 2005, 2:50:52 PM8/3/05
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The 'friendly and trusting atmosphere' has probably gone following abuse.
The particulars asked for during registration are name, address, call
sign and email. These are then verified in some way, probably by QRZ.COM
or similar before a password is issued.
This information is readily available so all an abuser needs is
verifiable particulars. The only problem I can see is that people who
are 'particulars withheld' may have difficulty with registration.

ZZZZPK

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Aug 5, 2005, 3:20:59 PM8/5/05
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scotland...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

: I great debate on what a REAL ham is coming over the horizon !! No


: doubt everybody will agree on what a real ham is...... Hi.

and i'm sure that with your use of the HI tag, you will be accused of
being an old coffin-dodger-morse-code-user by lazy people who run away
form simple morse tests.

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