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2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.radio.amateur reorganization

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Ian Kluft KD6EUI

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May 27, 1993, 6:17:39 PM5/27/93
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2ND CALL FOR VOTES
AND VOTE ACK
REC.RADIO.AMATEUR REORGANIZATION

This is the 2nd official Call for Votes for the reorganization of the
rec.radio.amateur hierarchy of newsgroups. The first CFV was posted May 10th.
This vote is being conducted according to the official newsgroup creation
procedures, which are posted regularly in news.groups.

Votes may be cast only with the simple fill-in-the-blanks form which appears
in the "HOW TO CAST YOUR VOTE" section later in this CFV.

An acknowledgement for votes received ("vote ack") is included near the end
of this article.


SUBJECT OF VOTE
---------------
All of the newsgroups proposed below are UNMODERATED.

rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
amateur packet radio, RTTY, AMTOR, Clover and other digital amateur
radio modes (This replaces rec.radio.amateur.packet and adds other
digital modes to the subject)

rec.radio.amateur.digital.tcp-ip
TCP/IP via amateur packet radio

rec.radio.amateur.dx
DX (long distance) amateur radio communications

rec.radio.amateur.antenna
amateur radio antennas: theory, techniques and construction

rec.radio.amateur.equipment
amateur radio equipment: manufactured products and modifications

rec.radio.amateur.instruction
amateur radio instruction & examination

rec.radio.amateur.operating
amateur radio operating procedures and techniques

rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
amateur radio construction & experimentation

rec.radio.amateur.space
amateur radio in space: amateur radio satellites, earth-moon-earth
(EME) communications, space shuttle, MIR space station, etc.

rec.radio.amateur.emerg-services
emergency services: RACES, ARES, NTS, and other use of amateur radio
in emergencies or disasters

rec.radio.amateur.rdf
radio direction finding: recreational hunts and searches for
interference

Two existing newsgroups will not be affected by this vote. They are
rec.radio.amateur.misc and rec.radio.amateur.policy. They do not appear on
the voting form and no changes resulting from this procedure will apply to
them. rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc will replace rec.radio.amateur.packet if
it passes, otherwise rec.radio.amateur.packet will remain unchanged.


DURATION OF VOTE
----------------
Voting commenced when the 1st official CFV was posted on 10 May 1993. It will
continue until 9 June 1993 at 23:59PM UTC.

Voting procedures are detailed in the next section, "HOW TO CAST YOUR VOTE."

Upon completion of the voting period, the results will be posted to
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.radio.info and all the current
rec.radio.amateur.* newsgroups. In order to pass, newsgroups must have at
least a 2/3 majority of YES votes and at least 100 more YES than NO votes.


HOW TO CAST YOUR VOTE
---------------------
Jay Maynard, K5ZC, is serving as vote-taker for this vote. Please REPLY to
this message via MAIL to his account, jmay...@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu; using your
newsreader's "mail a reply" command on this message should work. Posted votes
can not be counted. You will receive a reply within a few days after your
votes are received which indicates how the vote counting software thinks you
voted - please mail corrections immediately.

PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS. The vote-taker requests that voters cut out the
rest of the CFV besides the form from their replies so the saved votes won't
take so much storage.

Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not modify the group names. Votes will be tallied by an automatic
program and if it can't determine your vote you will be asked to re-vote.

For each group that you wish to vote on, simply add your vote in the
appropriate space on the same line. Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and
Against. Yes and For are equivalent, as are No and Against. Capitalization is
not important. If you want to abstain from voting on a particular group, just
leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote
characters ">" that your reply inserts.

You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or "I vote
against all of them." Please use the form.

You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have.
Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.

Reminder - don't delete anything between the lines below. But please remove
the rest of the CFV from your reply.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

rec.radio.amateur reorganization Ballot [RRAR0002]

Your Vote Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes this.is.an.example.group
>no this.is.another.example.group
this.is.an.example.abstention

rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
rec.radio.amateur.digital.tcp-ip
rec.radio.amateur.dx
rec.radio.amateur.antenna
rec.radio.amateur.equipment
rec.radio.amateur.instruction
rec.radio.amateur.operating
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
rec.radio.amateur.space
rec.radio.amateur.emerg-services
rec.radio.amateur.rdf

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
--------------------
The following mass vote acknowledgement is provided in case anyone who cast a
vote did not receive the e-mail acknowledgement. This is only to confirm that
a vote was received. The voting results are not currently available and will
not be until after the voting period ends (see above.)

"Bent Bagger, OZ6BL"b...@craynet.dk
) (che...@ocean.med.unc.edu (Greg Young)
) (Goh Kawai (N6UOK)
a-ke...@microsoft.com (Kevin Purcell (Rho)
acol...@uclink.berkeley.edu (Andy Collins)
aco...@ncc.uky.edu
a...@sage.cc.purdue.edu (John Dormer)
Al_Br...@DGC.MCEO.DG.COM
ande...@optical.bms.com (Jay Anderson)
an...@boombox.micro.umn.edu ("Andre' V. Thomas")
an...@aspen.cray.com (Andy Warner)
ange...@dsd.es.com (Norman Angerhofer)
an...@aaa.ine.philips.nl
AVC...@ANANOV.REMNET.AB.COM ("Alan V. Cook")
aw...@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Aaron Wohl)
bai...@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu (Ed Bailey)
bal...@morris.hac.com (Morris Balamut)
b...@nj8j.atl.ga.us
bern...@cs.chalmers.se (Christer Bernerus)
beyonet!olwejo!root (Bob Kupiec)
bi...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
bio...@csg.lbl.gov (Alan K Biocca)
bl...@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu
bla...@postoffice.agcs.com (Jim Black)
b...@mtdcr.att.com
bo...@col.hp.com (Bob Witte)
BR.SJE%R...@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU ("Steve Eastman")
br...@fangorn.hacktic.nl
br...@amdcl2.amd.com (Brian McMinn, N5PSS)
br...@UCSD.EDU (Brian Kantor)
br...@sunfs1.dsd.northrop.com (Brown)
bry...@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Brynell)
btbg...@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bradley T Banko)
bwa...@muug.mb.ca (Bruce Walzer)
bwh...@dsd.camb.inmet.com (Bill White)
bwil...@holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri)
car...@linac.fnal.gov (Kermit Carlson)
ca...@uts.amdahl.com (Chris "Sleepy" Swartout)
c...@hertz.njit.edu (Chris Peckham)
cha...@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk (Ian Chard)
char...@raynet.com (Charles Harding x2435)
cm...@thor.tjhsst.edu (Craig Metz)
Coco.D...@sophia.inria.fr (Coco Djossou)
co...@soldev.tti.com (Randy Cole)
cra...@sdd.hp.com (Craig Bosworth)
ctr...@uts.amdahl.com (Christopher Trown)
dad...@cherry.cray.com (David Adams)
da...@sequent.com (Dale Mosby)
da...@fafnir.la.locus.com ("Dana H. Myers")
datw...@moons.sim.es.com (Doug Datwyler)
da...@hpfcdjh.fc.hp.com (Dave Hodge)
ddav...@metz.une.edu.au (Dean Davidson)
ddt...@ucdavis.edu
d...@meaddata.com (David Myers)
d...@eyrie.demon.co.uk (Derek Fawcus)
dfi...@aoc.nrao.edu (Dave Finley)
dic...@ranger.rtsg.mot.com (Richard A. Dickens)
di...@awis.auburn.edu (Dave M. Ihle)
dj...@ukc.ac.uk
dla...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Doug Lawlor)
d...@genrad.com (Diana L. Carlson)
do...@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Don Cock)
do...@cahuilla.UCSD.EDU (Doug Peckham)
dre...@lhaven.UUmh.Ab.Ca (Lawrence "The Dreamer" Chen)
d...@eddy.banyan.com (Daniel Senie)
eck...@eos1.larc.nasa.gov (Richard Eckman)
e...@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Ed Humphries)
eey...@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (M. Knell)
eh...@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV)
e...@kaja.gi.alaska.edu ("Eric J. Olson")
e...@ham.almanac.bc.ca
en...@almaden.ibm.com ("Roy Engehausen")
e...@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
etx...@solsta.ericsson.se (Thomas Grennefors TX/DKF)
fax%spa...@Olivetti.Com (Marco Fassiotto)
fk...@cornell.edu (F. Kevin Feeney)
f...@hoop.sw.stratus.com (Faith Senie)
Fred....@West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
fr...@fis.unb.br (Francisco Rogerio Fontenele Aragao)
FS...@acad3.alaska.edu (Hardcore Alaskan)
fur...@cs.UMD.EDU (Richard Furuta)
gary%ke4zv...@mathcs.emory.edu (Gary Coffman)
gar...@tenet.edu (Gary L Carlson)
ga...@flash.alsys.com (Gary Morris @ignite)
ga...@cs.tamu.edu (Gary R Ratterree)
gedw...@ncratl.atlantaga.NCR.COM (Gordon Edwards)
g...@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury)
g...@hogpa.att.com
g...@balrog.k8lt.ampr.org (Gary L. Grebus)
gor...@westford.ccur.com
grc!d...@uwm.edu (Don Woelz)
gsm...@gsm001.mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
gta...@taex003n.tamu.edu (Gregory S. Taylor)
g...@coos.dartmouth.edu (Guy Schiavone)
gz...@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Giuseppe Filiaci)
ha...@wv.MENTORG.COM (Hank Oredson)
hatter!mhatter (Henry Middlebrook)
haym...@quack.kfu.com (Ed Haymore)
herb...@lassie.ucx.lkg.dec.com (B.J.)
hmp...@mosaic.uncc.edu (Herbert M Petro)
ikl...@uts.amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
jan...@skyld.tele.com ("Jeffrey D. Angus")
ja...@hpxxx.fc.hp.com (Jay Kesterson K0GU x6826)
jg...@uts.amdahl.com (John G. Thompson)
jho...@SU19F.ess.harris.com (Harv Hobson)
jh...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason Hoos)
j...@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham)
jlg...@umassmed.UMMED.EDU (John L. Luigi Giasi)
jmay...@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard)
jmo...@spider.co.uk (John Morris)
jones%azt...@sj.ate.slb.com (Clark Jones)
jrm...@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Massi joseph r 301-369-7780)
jsp...@plaza.ds.adp.com
jul...@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey)
j...@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Jim Van Peursem)
K.E.W...@bradford.ac.uk
ka...@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Mark Kahrs)
kc...@apple.com (Kok Chen)
kd6hr.El...@xerox.com
ke...@ws066.torreypinesca.NCR.COM (Kevin Sanders)
kirs...@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.com
kkud...@email.tuwien.ac.at (Klaus KUDIELKA)
KMCQUEEN@UT_WICAT ("Keith McQueen")
kri...@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu (Kristin Rachael Hayward)
ku...@cs.tamu.edu (Kurt Freiberger)
lar...@net.com (Alan Larson)
le...@BBN.COM
ljtho...@anl.gov (loren thompson)
m...@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Mark A. Matthews)
ma...@eskimo.com (Tom Mann)
ma...@Athena.MIT.EDU (Marc Horowitz)
marc...@cea.Berkeley.EDU (Will Marchant)
ma...@ERA.COM (Mark Feit)
ma...@ssc.com (Mark Zenier)
marti...@jrc.it (Martin Zurn)
me...@eng.umd.edu ("Mark E. Bailey")
mi...@pacifier.rain.com (Mike Freeman)
mi...@hp-and.an.hp.com (John Mira)
m...@cs.cmu.edu (Mike Blackwell)
m...@RedBrick.COM (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS)
moi...@silver.lcs.mit.edu (David Moisan)
MOWE%SLUMUS...@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Michael Owen)
mr...@maverick.aud.alcatel.com (Kris Mraz)
n9...@ecn.purdue.edu (Scott A Stembaugh)
ni...@cs.unc.edu (Nick England)
ode...@aedi.insa-lyon.fr (Karel Odenhal)
o...@access.digex.net (Gary Goldberg)
osw...@hilbert.chem.yale.edu (Mark Oswood)
p00...@psilink.com ("Seth M. Dworken")
paul.g...@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Paul Graziani)
Paul.Ter...@leotech.MV.COM (Paul Terwilliger)
phyd...@guru.med.cornell.edu (Dave Weingart)
pj...@kalikka.jyu.fi (Pertti Karppinen)
pma...@mtl.mit.edu
psch...@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
p...@cacs.usl.edu (Pirawat Watanapongse)
Raymond....@EBay.Sun.COM (Ray Anderson)
rcan...@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Nice Guy)
rd...@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil ("LCDR Michael E. Dobson")
red-eft!h...@valley.West.Sun.COM (Harris Boldt Edelman)
rei...@mast.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert AD1C)
ri...@ttd.teradyne.com ("John Rice")
Richard....@nd.edu (Rick Nimtz)
Richard.M...@Eng.Sun.COM (Richard McAllister)
ri...@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
ro...@jackatak.raider.net ("Jack GF Hill - Sysop [HOME]")
ro...@magoo.uwsuper.edu
rpw...@cs.nps.navy.mil (R. P. White)
rsm...@macc.wisc.edu (Rusty Smith)
r...@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander)
sa...@tellabs.com
sapnet!n8...@mcnnet.HCIA.COM (James E. Cook)
s...@opus.xyplex.com (Scott Sminkey - Sustaining Eng Group)
scha...@cisco.com (Carl Schaefer)
Scott.T...@uwyo.edu (Scott M. Tisinger)
si...@PICA.ARMY.MIL ("Sid B. Bernstein" (AED-EWD)
silogic!markd (Mark C. DiVecchio)
ski...@NADC.NAVY.MIL (M. Squicciarini)
sma...@zooid.guild.org (Marc Moorcroft)
snyd...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
srg...@gih.grace.cri.nz (Stephen McNeill)
sta...@oce.orst.edu (John Stanley)
st...@wattres.SJ.CA.US (Steve Watt -- KD6GGD)
ste...@netcom.com (Steven Wilson)
sunriv!ro...@uunet.UU.NET
su...@lick.UCSC.EDU (Brian Sutin)
ta...@cimfie.enet.dec.com (MRO4-2/C9 dtn 297-9029)
tbut...@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Jeff Butterfield)
tec...@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Bob Vaughan)
Thomas...@Systemtechnik.TU-Ilmenau.DE (Thomas Planke)
THO...@staff.tc.umn.edu (Thomas D.Gasser)
TMK...@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU (Eh?)
to...@microware.co.uk (Tony Mountifield)
tuc...@gauss.eedsp.gatech.edu (Jeff Tucker N9HZQ)
u0...@csx.cciw.ca (G. Stewart Beal)
UUP...@MARS.LERC.NASA.GOV
va...@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
vau...@well.sf.ca.us (Thomas Wade Vaughan)
vogon1!wa3wbu!frackit!ka3uzr!da...@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Dave Hultberg)
wan...@kingkong.escape.de (Ulf Bahrenfuss)
William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenA...@ns14.cca.cr.rockwell.com
w...@joplin.att.com
y...@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee)
zat...@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Ted Zateslo)
zaw...@arbd0.larc.nasa.gov (Dr. Joseph M Zawodny)

REFERENCES
----------
For more information on the newsgroup creation procedures, refer to the
article "Guidelines for UseNet Newsgroup Creation" in news.groups,
news.announce.newgroups and news.answers. It includes the requirements behind
the rules in this CFV including, for example, voting by mail only, the allowed
length of the voting period, required margins to pass, prohibition against
proxy, forwarded, or conditional votes, etc.

For a complete transcript of the decision-making process that led up to the
Request for Discussion and Call for Votes for the rec.radio.amateur
reorganization, anonymous FTP to charon.amdahl.com and obtain the files called
/pub/radio/amateur/news.groups-discussion.Z
/pub/radio/amateur/rra-reorg.log.*.Z
The newsgroups on this CFV were the result of the 30-day discussion period
that followed the Request for Discussion (which was posted March 25, 1993.)


The rra-reorg mail list was the forum for developing the RFD and for turning
the results of the discussion on news.groups into this CFV. The mail list was
advertised several times on the rec.radio.amateur.* newsgroups. The following
people chose to join and assisted in putting together the proposal:

b...@nj8j.atl.ga.us (Ben Coleman NJ8J)
br...@nucleus.amd.com (Brian McMinn N5PSS)
ca...@uts.amdahl.com (Chris Swartout N6WCP)
c...@hertz.njit.edu (Chris Peckham WG2W)
datw...@moons.sim.es.com (Doug Datwyler WR7O)
eh...@arrl.org (Ed Hare KA1CV)
ikl...@uts.amdahl.com (Ian Kluft KD6EUI)
j...@dreaml.wariat.org (Jon Anhold N8USK)
jg...@uts.amdahl.com (John Thompson KD6KID)
jmay...@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard K5ZC)
ma...@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Salyzyn VE6MGS)
pa...@umunhum.Stanford.EDU (Paul Flaherty N9FZX)
psch...@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
ro...@jackatak.raider.net (Jack GF Hill W4PPT)
st...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn KB0AGD)
st...@wattres.sj.ca.us (Steve Watt KD6GGD)

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