Sideband Q-codes ?
Steve Lee
Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
Thanks,
Steve
AC6V
Hello Steve: For Q-signals go to URL:
http://cit1.unl.edu/qsign.html
Also I will send you two files with more of same.
QSL??
Rod
I am QRU and QRV Hi Hi
--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V
William E. Sabin
KD1YV wrote:
> But seriously, a friend has found an old Handbook, circa 1940's, and in there is
> the currently disused QTO. He has challenged me to figure out what it is. Does anybody
> know?
From the 1938 ARRL Handbook:
QTJ What is your speed? My speed is ------ knots
QTO Have you left dock (or port)? I have just left dock (or port)
Bill W0IYH
Stan Vandiver
Steve Lee wrote:
>
> Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
> Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
Hi Steve,
I'm not sure if this list is "all-inclusive" or not, but here you are.
Remember though: Q-signals are NOT intended for voice operation. Yes,
you hear them sometimes, but they were designed to simplify morse code
traffic handling, not voice. You will more likely confuse someone if you
use them on voice with the exception of the most common ones.
Best regards, Stan/KD9BE
AMATEUR RADIO "Q-SIGNALS"
FOR CW USE ONLY
QNA Answer in prearranged order.
QNC All net stations copy.
QND Net is directed.
QNE Entire net stand by.
QNF Net is free.
QNG Take over as net control station.
QNI Net stations report in.
QNM You are QRMing the net.
QNN Net control station is [call sign].
QNO Station is leaving the net.
QNP Unable to copy you.
QNS Following stations are in the net.
QNT I request permission to leave the net.
QNU The net has traffic for you.
QNX You are excused from the net
QNY Shift to another frequency.
QNZ Zero beat your signal with mine.
QRG Will you tell me my exact frequency?
QRH Does my frequency vary?
QRJ Are you receiving me badly?
QRK What is the intelligibility of my signals?
QRL Are you busy?
QRM Is my transmission being interfered with?
QRN Are you troubled by static?
QRO Shall I increase power?
QRP Shall I decrease power?
QRQ Shall I send faster?
QRS Shall I send more slowly?
QRT Shall I stop sending?
QRU Have you anything for me?
QRV Are you ready?
QRX When will you call me again?
QRY What is my turn?
QRZ Who is calling me?
QSA What is the strength of my signals?
QSB Are my signals fading?
QSD Is my keying defective?
QSG Shall I send messages?
QSK Can you hear between your signals?
QSL Can you acknowledge receipt?
QSM Shall I repeat the last message?
QSN Did you hear me?
QSO Can you communicate with me?
QSP Will you relay?
QST General call preceding a message.
QSU Shall I send or reply on this frequency?
QSW Will you send on this frequency?
QSX Will you listen?
QSY Shall I change frequency?
QSZ Shall I send each word more than once?
QTA Shall I cancel message?
QTB Do you agree with my counting of words?
QTC How many messages have you to send?
QTH What is your location?
QTR What is the correct time?
KD1YV
Stan Vandiver wrote:
>
> Steve Lee wrote:
> >
> > Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
> > Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
>
> Hi Steve,
> I'm not sure if this list is "all-inclusive" or not, but here you are.
> Remember though: Q-signals are NOT intended for voice operation. Yes,
> you hear them sometimes, but they were designed to simplify morse code
> traffic handling, not voice. You will more likely confuse someone if you
> use them on voice with the exception of the most common ones.
>
> Best regards, Stan/KD9BE
>
> AMATEUR RADIO "Q-SIGNALS"
> FOR CW USE ONLY
>
> QTA Shall I cancel message?
> QTB Do you agree with my counting of words?
> QTC How many messages have you to send?
> QTH What is your location?
> QTR What is the correct time?
You omitted a very important one. When you've been DXing for hours, slugging back pots
of coffee, and nature calls, you need to go:
QTJ Quick Trip to the John
But seriously, a friend has found an old Handbook, circa 1940's, and in there is
the currently disused QTO. He has challenged me to figure out what it is. Does anybody
know?
73 de Jim, KD1YV
Jim Reid
> Steve Lee wrote:
> >
> > Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
> > Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
Hi Steve,
Well it is obvious which ones you won't be using.
Anyway, Q signals used on SSB are just part of the
nostalgia of amateur radio, sort of what CW is
also coming to.; unless you heard 40 CW last night
during the last hour of the IARU World Team Sport
Championships. What a bunch of excellent QRQ CW
ops!! I had a super time, but next time will be
using a programmed keyer. Got pretty excited at times,
the result was some pretty inaccurate keying!!
From what I could hear, there are hundreds/maybe
thousands of CW enthusiastic nostalgia buffs about
the globe; least sounded that way from our here
in Hawaii all day long Saturday on the 20 meter
CW band segment.
73, Jim, AH6NB
Pat Bingham
Steve Lee (stev...@nashville.com) wrote:
: Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
: Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
: Thanks,
: Steve
Hi Steve,
Q signals on phone are considered bad form. You probably would
be just as correct using 10 codes.
Very 73,
Pat, K5ETX
Cecil Moore
fcz40a@durango (Pat Bingham) wrote:
> Q signals on phone are considered bad form. You probably would
>be just as correct using 10 codes.
At a hamfest the other day, I gave Harold a call on 2m ending with,
"Hey Harold, gotcha ears on?". A fellow ham heard me and lectured
me for a few minutes on operating procedure. Then he asked, "Just
how long have you had your license?" I replied, "44 years". :-)
We are in the avocation of communications. Saying "my QTH" conveys
the same meaning as "my house" so why not use it? And "QRZ" sounds
a lot more high class than "Who Dat?".
73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC (not speaking for my employer)
Phillips Bingham
Cecil Moore (cmo...@sedona.intel.com) wrote:
: At a hamfest the other day, I gave Harold a call on 2m ending with,
: "Hey Harold, gotcha ears on?". A fellow ham heard me and lectured
: me for a few minutes on operating procedure. Then he asked, "Just
: how long have you had your license?" I replied, "44 years". :-)
: We are in the avocation of communications. Saying "my QTH" conveys
: the same meaning as "my house" so why not use it? And "QRZ" sounds
: a lot more high class than "Who Dat?".
: 73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC (not speaking for my employer)
Hi Cecil,
Thanks for the reply. I said something to the effect 'not
good form' because I do not think it is poor operation, only
unnecessary. I can think of only two instances where it
accomplishes anything. You mentioned one, QRZ. The second is
QSL to acknowledge receipt of a message in a phone traffic net.
Both of these accomplist the desired result most directly and
easily. On the other hand 'what is your home QTH' is absurd.
Congratulations on getting your old call back.
Peace and 73,
Pat, K5ETX
Hans K0HB
fcz40a@durango (Pat Bingham) wrote:
> Q signals on phone are considered bad form. You probably would
>be just as correct using 10 codes.
Pat (and all the other "purists") is welcome to his opinion,
but it's not "bad form" to me, and it damn sure ain't worth
all the bandwidth used arguing about it here!
QSL?
<grinning, running, and ducking>
--
73, de Hans K0HB
--If you go flying back through time and you see somebody else
flying forward into the future, it's probably best to avoid
eye contact.
Eugene L. Olson - KC0RL
Hi Steve,
There are no Q codes for sideband. It is not considered proper
procedure to use Q codes on sideband.
The Q codes are intended for use on CW and some of the digital modes.
stev...@nashville.com (Steve Lee) wrote:
:Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
:Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
:Thanks,
:Steve
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Curtis D. Levin
Q CODES MAY BE USED TO EITHER ASK OR ANSWER A QUERY -- COMMON SENSE
PREVAILS --
QRA -- WHAT IS YOUR STATION NAME
QRG -- WHATS MY FREQUENCY
QRH -- DOES MY FREQUENCY VARY
QRI -- HOW IS THE TONE OF MY TX
QRK -- WHAT IS MY READABILITY
QRL -- ARE YOU BUSY
QRM -- IS THERE INTERFERENCE
QRN -- IS THERE STATIC
QRO -- INCREASE POWER
QRP -- DECREASE POWER
QRQ -- SEND FASTER
QRR -- READY FOR AUTOMATIC OPERATION
QRS -- SEND MORE SLOWLY
QRT -- STOP SENDING
QRU -- HAVE NOTHING FOR YOU
QRV -- ARE YOU READY
QRW -- CALLING FOR CALLSIGN ON FREQUENCY
QRX -- WHEN WILL YOU CALL AGAIN
QRY -- WHEN IS IT MY TURN
QRZ -- WHO IS CALLING ME
QSA -- WHAT IS SIGNAL STRENGTH
QSB -- ARE MY SIGNALS FADING
QSK -- CAN YOU HEAR ME BETWEEN YOUR SIGNALS
QSL -- ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT
QSM -- REPEAT LAST MESSAGE
QSO -- CAN YOU COMMUNICATE
QSY -- CHANGE FREQUENCY
QTB -- WORD COUNT IS
QTH -- LOCATION OR POSITION IS
QTR -- THE TIME IS
QTX -- STATION WILL BE OPEN UNTIL
MISCELLANEOUS SIGNALS
AA -- ALL AFTER
AB -- ALL BEFORE
ABV -- I REPEAT IN ABBREVIATED FORM
ADS -- ADDRESS
AR -- END OF TRANSMISSION
AS -- WAITING PERIOD
BK -- BREAK
BN -- ALL BETWEEN
C -- YES
CFM -- I CONFIRM
CL -- CLOSING MY STATION
CP -- GENERAL CALL TO MULTIPLE STATIONS
CQ -- GENERAL CALL TO ALL STATIONS
CS -- CALLSIGN
DE -- FROM, AS IN DE KD4ZKW
ER -- HERE
ETA -- ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL
K -- INVITATION TO TRANSMIT
MN -- MINUTES
MSG -- MESSAGE
N -- NO
NIL -- I HAVE NOTHING FOR YOU
NW -- NOW
OK -- WE AGREE
R -- RECEIVED
REF -- IN REFERENCE TO
RPT -- REPEAT
RQ -- REQUEST
SOS -- DISTRESS SIGNAL
TFC -- TRAFFIC
TTT -- SAFETY SIGNAL
TXT -- TEXT
W -- WORD
WA -- WORD AFTER
WB -- WORD BEFORE
XXX -- URGENCY SIGNAL
THERE ARE OTHERS AS WELL. PERHAPS A BOOK MIGHT BE OF SOME VALUE TO YOU,
BUT I HOPE THIS HELPS.
ps-- geez, someone made a request directly related to amateur radio, and
someone else just blew him off... q sigs are in common use both on cw and
ssb on both hf and vhf/uhf. Have fun, 73.
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Jeffrey Herman
>Please forgive the snotty, bum steer type, none answers from the Amateurs
>Radio Operators Jim AH6NB, Pat K5ETX, and Eugene KC0RL with your
>question. Their type of attitude and way, is most unfriendly. Their
>display of their snotty attitude in written form is the same thing that
>new people hear over the amateur radio that pushes a lot of good people
>away from amateur radio. One of the reasons why cb radio stays so much
>alive. Then they bad mouth us cb'ers.
You're calling them names and say *they're* bad mouthers?
>The Q codes are used as abbreviations to shorten the amount of letters
>sent by a operator using Morse code. However there is no law that says
>you can't use them for a abbreviation for SSB.
There's no law that says you can't stand on your head atop your antenna,
but folks will surely think your a nut for doing so. Same with using the
below list of Q sigs.
>Even operators that aren't
>snotty use them on the ham and cb bands, using SSB.
If you use the below list on SSB *everyone* will be snotty to you!
>Why people get so
>upset and rapped around the axel over someone using Q codes on SSB is a
>small and insignificant thing. From now on I will use Q code
>abbreviations on SSB.
You'll be called a lid of you use any of the following on SSB:
>QRG Will you tell your exact frequency?
In 20 years on HF I've never heard this used on SSB
>QRH Does my frequency vary?
nor this
>QRI How is the tone of my transmission?
only applies to CW
>QRK What is the intelligibility of my signals?
never heard this used on SSB; but your article is QRK0.
>QRL Are you busy
No one uses this on SSB; instead one would say "Is the frequency in use?"
>QRQ Shall I send faster?
>QRS Shall I send more slowly?
Folks will think you landed from Mars if you use those on SSB.
>QRW Shall I inform ... that you are calling him on ...kHz?
>QSD Are my signals defective?
>QSG Shall I send ...messages at a time?
>QSM Shall I repeat the last message which I sent you?
>QSN Did you hear me on ...kHz or ...kHz.
>QSP Will you relay to ....?
>QSU Shall I send reply on this frequency, or on ...kHz?
None used on SSB
>QSV Shall I send a series of Vs on this frequency or ...kHz?
Yeah, try sending Vs on SSB.
Jay, you're foolish if you think you can use any of the above
on voice and you'll be understand. Please don't provide such
ridiculous suggests to new hams.
Jeff KH2PZ
Jim Kehler
Jay123a <jay...@gargamel.ptw.com> wrote:
>stev...@nashville.com (Steve Lee) wrote:
>>Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
>>Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Steve
>>
>Hello Steve:
>Please forgive the snotty, bum steer type, none answers from the Amateurs
>Radio Operators Jim AH6NB, Pat K5ETX, and Eugene KC0RL with your
>question. Their type of attitude and way, is most unfriendly. Their
>display of their snotty attitude in written form is the same thing that
>new people hear over the amateur radio that pushes a lot of good people
>away from amateur radio. One of the reasons why cb radio stays so much
>alive. Then they bad mouth us cb'ers.
>The Q codes are used as abbreviations to shorten the amount of letters
>sent by a operator using Morse code. However there is no law that says
>you can't use them for a abbreviation for SSB. Even operators that aren't
>snotty use them on the ham and cb bands, using SSB. Why people get so
>upset and rapped around the axel over someone using Q codes on SSB is a
>small and insignificant thing. From now on I will use Q code
>abbreviations on SSB.
Steve, l didn't see the responses from the hams that Jay is
lambasting, so I really don't know what they told you, but I imagine
that they said Q codes shouldn't be used on voice. I'm not sure Jay is
a ham, as he says 'Then they bad mouth us cb'ers.'
Some Q codes are commonly used on the ham bands on SSB. For example,
QSL (confirmation) ORZ (who's next) or QTH (location).
Best advice I can give you on how to talk on the ham radio is talk the
same as you would in person or on the phone (minus four letter words
that start with F). The Q codes that are commonly used on HF you
should pick up in a week. If you are talking to me on HF and want to
know what time it is, I would suggest you simply say 'Jim, what time
is it ?' as opposed to 'QTR' as Jay suggests. If you are talking to
me and want to know where I am, QTH is OK, or 'What country are you
in ?' will work too.
Q codes on the ham bands are not the same as 10 codes on the police
frequencies, i.e., all policemen know what all the 10 codes mean and
they all use them as standard operating proceedure. Q codes for the
ham bands were intended, I think, originally for CW, but a very few
have become 'standard' on voice. If you ask a Russian station 'Your
QTH ?' you will probably get a quicker response that if you ask
'Where are you located ?'. Not because he is more proficient in Q
codes, but because he is less proficient in English.
On your local repeater, Q codes are probably not necessary, as
everyone speaks English. 'Where are you ?' or 'Where are you located
?' are probably more 'normal' that 'What's your QTH ?'
'I got it.' or 'I understand.' will probably work just as well as
'QSL'.
I assume the reason you asked the original question is that because
when you operate you want to appear 'normal'. If you speak plain
English, with no Q codes, you shouldn't have a problem. Throw in a few
QTH's and QSL's once in a while, and nobody will notice. But if you
start asking people 'QTR ?' as our friend Jay suggests, you will
probably get labeled as a newbie or a pocket protector thick glasses
two HT toating nerd, or maybe as a 'cb'er' like Jay labels himself.
You make the choice.
73, Jim KH2D
Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
I will make a short defence of Q signals on voice: They are short,
easily understandable and a common set of phrases that everyone has
learned (or at least has been exposed to). There is no other set of
standard phrases that is internationally (or even nationally, in the
case of the US) known.
If they are given phonetically, using standard phonetics, they are
understandable, no matter the language or accent.
If there were a standard set of phrases that everyone knew, then Q
signals would be unnecessary, but Q signals are the most standard at
present.
73, doug
Stan Vandiver
Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
:>
:> I will make a short defence of Q signals on voice: They are short,
OK Doug, that's your opinion. I would much prefer to hear people speak
English. "Can you copy me?" is much clearer than "QNJ?" And
I would prefer to have a foreign ham say, "Thanks for the chat." instead of
"Thanks for the QSO." (Even less syllables in that example.) Foreign
accents do not trouble me that badly, but maybe I just try to pay more
attention to the conversation.
There *IS* a standard set of phrases... its called LANGUAGE! And it is the
basis of communication.
The Q-signals are of benefit to CW, and understandably other digital modes
also, to save the operator on sending/typing time. They are neither "needed"
nor "beneficial" to voice operations.
But that is MY opinion...
--
Best regards, Stan
AX.25: KD9BE @ KD9BE.#NWIN.IN
WWW: http://www.pla-net.net/~kd9be/
Robin Birch
Dear All,
It is interesting that this discussion comes from amateurs who only use
a portion of the whole Q code list. The full list, which was developed
during World War 2 (or there abouts) was intended for use by airborne
operators and is still used extensively today, on voice, because it is
short, easily recognisable and breaks language barriers. Exactly the
reasons that it is used on morse.
For instance, if a pilot asks air traffic for the airfields QFE he is
asking for the pressure setting that will enable his altimeter to read
zero when on the runway, whether it is calibrated in feet, meters or
venusian thargs.
Yes, it is bad practice to use Q codes on voice for general chat but I
would suggest, as air traffic have found, when a clear defined meaning
is required with no ambiguity then they are very useful and I wouldn't
shout at some one who used them.
I don't know what the regs say in the States but there is somewhere in the
UK words to the effect "All messages should be clear, concice and a
appropriate". We resort to phonetic spelling when the conditions get bad
why not use Q codes for exactly the same reason or when the person on the
other end doesn't speak the same language as us.
Cheers
Robin Birch
Jeffrey Herman
Robin Birch <ro...@falstaf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Dear All,
>It is interesting that this discussion comes from amateurs who only use
>a portion of the whole Q code list. The full list, which was developed
>during World War 2 (or there abouts) was intended for use by airborne
>operators
But routine WWII aeronautical comms were conducted via CW. Every big plane
had a radioman aboard working the radio gear (at least here in the US).
>and is still used extensively today, on voice,
Not in today's military nor commercial aero comms here in the US.
>For instance, if a pilot asks air traffic for the airfields QFE he is
>asking for the pressure setting that will enable his altimeter to read
>zero when on the runway, whether it is calibrated in feet, meters or
>venusian thargs.
Air traffic controllers provide the baro pressure without the pilot having
to ask for it. Back in the days when aero comms were in code, that Q-sig
would have been used *on CW*.
If you're speaking for the UK you should say so.
If you use the Q-sigs on voice you first should ascertain whether the
the other op has full knowledge of the list. If you ask "Hey Bill, QTR?"
and he answers "Huh?", then there was no advantage in using a Q-signal.
A more concise exchange would have resulted in just asking "Hey Bill,
what time is it?"
KH2PZ
Clinton Peebles
SV>English. "Can you copy me?" is much clearer than "QNJ?" And
QNJ?? Never heard of that one.
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Robin Birch
Jeffrey Herman (jhe...@Hawaii.Edu) wrote:
: But routine WWII aeronautical comms were conducted via CW. Every big plane
: had a radioman aboard working the radio gear (at least here in the US).
Except fighters or pursuits which used it on voice. I've checked both
RAF and USAF (USAAC) manuals of the day and the agree.
: >and is still used extensively today, on voice,
: Not in today's military nor commercial aero comms here in the US.
But everywhere else. Europe, Africa, Russia, Antartic, Greenland etc.
: >For instance, if a pilot asks air traffic for the airfields QFE he is
: >asking for the pressure setting that will enable his altimeter to read
: >zero when on the runway, whether it is calibrated in feet, meters or
: >venusian thargs.
: Air traffic controllers provide the baro pressure without the pilot having
: to ask for it. Back in the days when aero comms were in code, that Q-sig
: would have been used *on CW*.
Depends on the call, if he was asking for clearance they would provide it
as part of the standard call, if he was transiting to another pressure setting
zone he would ask for the QNH (pressure for notional sea level) for the
appropriate regions.
: If you're speaking for the UK you should say so.
Just every where I've flow, see above list.
: If you use the Q-sigs on voice you first should ascertain whether the
: the other op has full knowledge of the list. If you ask "Hey Bill, QTR?"
: and he answers "Huh?", then there was no advantage in using a Q-signal.
: A more concise exchange would have resulted in just asking "Hey Bill,
: what time is it?"
I cna't answer for the USA but in the UK you are required to know the
most commom ones even for your basic B licence.
Cheers
Robin
Joe Craig
Robin Birch (ro...@falstaf.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Dear All,
: It is interesting that this discussion comes from amateurs who only use
: a portion of the whole Q code list. The full list, which was developed
: during World War 2 (or there abouts) was intended for use by airborne
: short, easily recognisable and breaks language barriers. Exactly the
: reasons that it is used on morse.
QRG in French sounds like QRJ in English! CW is more effective in
'breaking the barrier'.
: appropriate". We resort to phonetic spelling when the conditions get bad
: why not use Q codes for exactly the same reason or when the person on the
: other end doesn't speak the same language as us.
QTA and QTH are lilely undistingushable under adverse conditions. Also,
unless you're prepared to spell the Q-signal in phonetics, the person
speaking the other language will probably not understand you.
: Cheers
: Robin Birch
--
73 Joe VO1NA