27 mhz jammer
tim_hynde
Ted wrote:
> So I have to wonder... What's next? Maybe allegations about the Oklahoma
> City bombers being hams? Or maybe some idiot will start promoting that
> white supremacy net on 75M that meets on certain mornings? Maybe cult
> leaders like Jim Jones and David Koresh were hams too? What was Fidel
> Castro's callsign again? Sheesh! This hobby needs good PR enough as it is
> already without these carrot-waxers giving the rest of us a bad image!
Jim Jones was not, but he did make regular 20m transmissions from the
camp via an amateur in his group. I worked him and recieved a QSL card,
it had several pictures of the campsite on the front. The amateur took
his life along with the others about 5 months later.
Speaking of PR Ted, what image do you leave with newcommers reading your
posts? Someone offers to help you with an antenna problem and you pitch
a fit because they didn't do it the way you wanted. I'm sure YOURE
responces made the newcommers want to jump right in.
While YOU'VE been bitching about the rest of us what have YOU done to
promote the hobby in positive manner? I really love the part where you
keep your anonymity, if your going to make a statement Teddy, right or
wrong, sign your name to it. It doesn't mean much without it.
Tim, ka8ddz
tim_hynde
Ted wrote:
>
> Sense of humor my ass!
>
> I'm not so stupid as to believe that the "old war stories" that were
> posted in this thread were just "jokes".
Uhh, yes Ted, you are that stupid.
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gsp...@ix.netcom.com(Glenn Sparks) wrote:
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>I guess this is one of those area's where I don't have a black or white
>answer, but I do know when faced with someone running lots of power,
>who will not cooperate, killing their receive is the only way to get
>them off the air, none of the other tactics work, they just fix it, and
>start watching their station closely. The FCC won't help, unless they
>interfer with Police or medical there is not much chance of fixing the
>problem legally.
Well said, Glenn. Sometimes when all else fails, it's the only way.
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b2d...@aol.com (B2Dude) wrote:
>This jammer might also interfere with the 27mhz R/C car band! If they are
>running a 60m.p.h. gas car, U could really screw ther day. Be nice and
>don't build it. some cars cost $1000+!!!
Anybody who is foolish enough to operate a radio-control car
anywhere near 27 Mhz is asking for a crash anyway.
J&J Mac
B2Dude wrote:
>
> This jammer might also interfere with the 27mhz R/C car band! If they are
> running a 60m.p.h. gas car, U could really screw ther day. Be nice and
> don't build it. some cars cost $1000+!!!
at which time no longer worked with my RC.
not to mention, if someone has an RC car worth more than $69.95, they
sure as hell don't use 27 Mhz.
Jim..
J&J Mac
Ted wrote:
>
> Sense of humor my ass!
>
> I'm not so stupid as to believe that the "old war stories" that were
> they were accounts of events. To defend it, even if it were a joke, is to
> show a blatent lack of care or respect for the hobby's image.
>
> Admit it... You dont give a hoot if the general public sees ham radio as
> a valuable asset to humanity or not.
>
Look Ted, I can see where you might be coming from but you also must
realize that a VERY large number of CB'ers are running illegal
amplifiers which are usually not filtered correctly for the frequencies
they are used.
by getting just one of this type of CB'er OR HAM for that matter to ease
off the key for just one day is worth this little prectical joke.
The device I made had a range or perhaps 100 meters and effected no one
but the person who was destroying all modes of receiption in a one mile
radius.
Jim.
Bill Newkirk
Ted wrote:
> Admit it... You dont give a hoot if the general public sees ham radio as
> a valuable asset to humanity or not.
and so what's your plan to tell the general public about how ham radio
is a
valuable asset to humanity?
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Group
Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur
radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at
all.
Dana Yeomans
when i first got into cb, we used to run remolt plains on there back in the
early 60's so take care.
Dana Yeomans
hi there, c-b isn't made for testing equipment anyway.
Dana Yeomans
hi there, he sounds like a nut for sure, i have been a ham for years, and
haven't seen some act like that. .73's from n4pge in griffin, georgia.
Dana Yeomans
i aggree with 100 percent.
CHRISTOPHER MCCALL
One word RELAX! all of you are on the fast track to the grave. My
opinion is look for the positive.(Nothing positive about jamming) quit
bashing the No Codes, help them out with code, maybe if it wasn't shoved
down their mouthes, everyone fair better. Be an Elmer, make someone's day.
I'm sure everyone of us has something positive to share. I was ready to
give up my ticket, never get the code, and toss my radios in the trash.
Until field day, now I have the HF itch. Someone else showed me QRP, let
me tell you. The fever is alive and feeding the code, aleast for me.
Practice good form on the air, 1st timers are looking for a role model.
With the exception of part 97 everthing else is a "gentleman's agreement"
no gentlemen, no agreement. No offense to the YL/XYLs intended.
Think of something you can do to make a positive change. ie. I didn't
know Q-codes are not used on FM uhf/vhf until I was elmered.
73
Chris McCall KB8YPO
Dayton Oh.
Rob Neff
If that's where your funny bone is.
>I'm not so stupid as to believe that the "old war stories" that were
>posted in this thread were just "jokes". Until I spoke up it was obvious
>they were accounts of events. To defend it, even if it were a joke, is to
>show a blatent lack of care or respect for the hobby's image.
Well you know what? Life wasn't supposed to be a comedy, but it sure
can make you laugh your butt off at times. Stand on your head for a
few minutes, and get a different perspective on things. It might just
do you some good.
>
>Admit it... You dont give a hoot if the general public sees ham radio as
>a valuable asset to humanity or not.
>
No. What's killing Amateur Radio are tight fisted info-nazis that have
such a tight grip on the 'way things were' and should be, that they
are choking the life out of it. And no, I don't give a hoot how YOU
perceive Amateur Radio.
Rob Neff (N7ORY)
Ted
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On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, J&J Mac wrote:
> Stan Aughenbaugh wrote:
> >
> > Right on Rob! It irritates the #$%^^& outof me when I see one of these
> > 'Band Nazis' or your word 'info nazis' act like they are the sole
> > arbiters of who should know what.
Stan, you and Rob and Jim are really showing yourselves to be buttholes.
Like typical LIBERALS you resort to anyone with morals as a "nazi". I'm
sure my friends in the JDL would appreciate that a lot. Did you also vote
to re-elect that adulterous anus from Arkansas in the Oval Office? It
wouldn't surprize me in the least, but that's all off topic, I suppose.
If you knew anything at all about real nazis you'd know that it has
something very much in common with your beloved liberalism: SOCIALISM...
Rememeber? "Nazi" is short for "National Socialist",(in German "national"
is spelled "nazional" or something like that).
You buttholes have a lot of nerve. You who like to run around using the
term "nazi" on anyone you think is too strict are watering down people's
knowledge of what evil scumbags the REAL nazis were. And then out of the
other side of your face you vote, march and screem for:
1: more government
2: gun-control
3: godless schools to force lies into our kids heads such as there being
nothing wrong with perversions like homosexuality
4: re-enslaving most of my people into dependancy on government
5: the continued legalization and taxparer-funding of that damnable
holocaustic carnage upon infants,(aka "abortion"), which has murdered
hundreds of millions of Americans, started by a true Nazi sympathizer and
a true racist named Margeret Sanger who was the founder of the notorious
group called "Planned Parenthood".
...and all the other such socialist crap you liberals defecated upon
America and the world and yet with all that evil you liberals impose upon
us you DARE to call any of us moral conservatives a "nazi"? That HAS to
be the most BLATENT and arrogant example of hypocracy anyone has ever yet
committed!
Yeah, this really IS way off this newsgroup's topic, but YOU were the ones
who pushed my button by calling me a nazi when I am one of the most
anti-nazi people I know. And as far as I'm concerned, anyone who is for
the lowering moral standards, be it a moral standard that is related to the
ham radio hobby or not, displays that they have no conscience, no decent
upbringing and nothing to offer ham radio except degradation. And anyone
who cheers them on is no better either.
> > I think your comments were great and to the point. Last thing we need on
> > this group are the thought police. Personally I always try to give an
> > answer if I have it. The responsibility lies in how the information is
> > used.
Yeah Stan, why dont we just get rid of all the rules and create a
spectrum wide citizens band... is that what you want? That's how you make
it sound. If you want to jam or help jam communications, do us hams who
CARE about the hobby a favor by leaving your license at the door as you
go out to buy a CB radio. Then you won't need to BUILD something to jam
27 MHz... you'll have a CB and you can play "drop the mall" all day long.
> > Gad! I sure am glad MArconi and Edison (or Tesla) didn't have to put up
> > with these types, we'd all still be senfing smoke signals to each other.
And you'd be figuring out ways to jam that too, I'll bet.
> I dunno! they would probably be in with the EPA whining about how the
> smoke singals are causing 'second-hand-smoke' fatatalities!
The EPA? Isn't that YOUR bunch? Anyone against good moral conduct HAS to
be a liberal,(that's the whole point of this reply). To a conservative,
good moral conduct comes FIRST, even above tax-cuts,(preferabley WITH
tax-cuts)!
You guys got some nerve calling an Alan Keyes/Abe Lincoln/Teddy Roosevelt
type of Conservative Republican a nazi. In my book licentious liberals
are so lame they aren't even worthy to kiss the southbound end of a
northbound rat. We have a repeater set aside for your type in Los Angeles
on 147.435 where all the queers and weirdos can go screw up without being
hassled while us hams who want to respect the rules use the rest of the
spectrum and as long as the animals stay in their cage we don't shut them
down. Usually they don't stay there and then we and the local OO's get to
enjoy a good hunt.
As far as I'm concerned you who bash me for endorsing good morals in the
hobby are just a bunch of Richard Burton wannabe's.
You have just seen that can't just push me and think I'll turn tail and
run. I will not just push back... I'll blast back with both barrels.
Ted
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On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, tim_hynde wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>
> > So I have to wonder... What's next? Maybe allegations about the Oklahoma
> > City bombers being hams? Or maybe some idiot will start promoting that
> > white supremacy net on 75M that meets on certain mornings? Maybe cult
> > leaders like Jim Jones and David Koresh were hams too? What was Fidel
> > Castro's callsign again? Sheesh! This hobby needs good PR enough as it is
> > already without these carrot-waxers giving the rest of us a bad image!
>
> Jim Jones was not, but he did make regular 20m transmissions from the
> camp via an amateur in his group. I worked him and recieved a QSL card,
> it had several pictures of the campsite on the front. The amateur took
> his life along with the others about 5 months later.
I'm sorry to hear that.
> Speaking of PR Ted, what image do you leave with newcommers reading your
> posts? Someone offers to help you with an antenna problem and you pitch
> a fit because they didn't do it the way you wanted. I'm sure YOURE
> responces made the newcommers want to jump right in.
You have a problem with me disliking conjecture and opinions when what I
was asking for was measurements? Unlike most of those 6-digit income
operators who can afford to buy everything off the shelf but now and then
dabble in a small project just for fun, I'm dirt-poor and build what I
build out of sheer neccessity, so can't afford to waste materials and
time on errors caused by bad information. I can't afford to not get it
right the first time. I HAVE TO take it so seriously, because any money
wasted on errors could have gone toward catching up on bills or on food.
> While YOU'VE been bitching about the rest of us what have YOU done to
> promote the hobby in positive manner?
If you weren't skipping posts you'd have seen some things. I'm not going
to sit here and brag on myself. And as far as I'm concerned, having a
fierce attitude,(which I admit I have), is not immoral, nor is there
any rule against it. If you waste a commodity which is precious to me
such as my time, you can expect to be told off. So don't act surprized
when it happens. If you KNOW you don't have the right answer when the
right answer is what someone needs, are you helping or hindering? Answer
me that.
> I really love the part where you
> keep your anonymity, if your going to make a statement Teddy, right or
> wrong, sign your name to it. It doesn't mean much without it.
You just typed my name, so you must have seen it. You wouldn't have seen
it unless I let it be seen. What do you want, a DNA sample? Tough!
Ted
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On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, tim_hynde wrote:
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> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I'm not so stupid as to believe that the "old war stories" that were
> > posted in this thread were just "jokes".
>
> Uhh, yes Ted, you are that stupid.
Up yours. Your previous post made it obvious that you endorse these
Richard Burton wannabe's.
Ted
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On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, J&J Mac wrote:
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I'm not so stupid as to believe that the "old war stories" that were
> > posted in this thread were just "jokes". Until I spoke up it was obvious
> > they were accounts of events. To defend it, even if it were a joke, is to
> > show a blatent lack of care or respect for the hobby's image.
> >
> > Admit it... You dont give a hoot if the general public sees ham radio as
> > a valuable asset to humanity or not.
> >
>
> Look Ted, I can see where you might be coming from but you also must
> realize that a VERY large number of CB'ers are running illegal
> amplifiers which are usually not filtered correctly for the frequencies
> they are used.
Does the thought of turning them in make you squeemish or something?
Or like Mr Rodgers would put it... "Can you say FCC?"
> by getting just one of this type of CB'er OR HAM for that matter to ease
> off the key for just one day is worth this little prectical joke.
Don't you get it? Encouraging hams to violate the rules is no joke!
> The device I made had a range or perhaps 100 meters and effected no one
> but the person who was destroying all modes of receiption in a one mile
> radius.
But it did affect someone else. It cost you your integrity! And now that
you are bragging about it here in public it's just one more case of
outlaw conduct by a ham that someone can nit-pick about when they need
excuses to give away OUR bandspace to UPS or some other service! THAT is
the point. If we can be labled as irresponsible it can cost us dearly!
Do you even care about that, especially after we JUST went through the
threat of losing 2M and 70cm to commercial LEOS? Probably not.
Those of you doing or endorsing this can just DROP the lame excuses. Like
I indicated in an ealier post, it's nothing but a selfish disregard for
the law which makes you no better than the CB'ers, because you're
stooping to that same level that they operate on.
Ted
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On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 or...@capital.net** wrote:
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> b2d...@aol.com (B2Dude) wrote:
>
> >This jammer might also interfere with the 27mhz R/C car band! If they are
> >running a 60m.p.h. gas car, U could really screw ther day. Be nice and
> >don't build it. some cars cost $1000+!!!
>
> Anybody who is foolish enough to operate a radio-control car
> anywhere near 27 Mhz is asking for a crash anyway.
So are you gonna be the one to tell the FCC and the toy companies to
reallocate the RC channels?
Ted
On Sunday, January twenty sixth 1997, Dana Yeomans wrote:
hi there, he sounds like a nut for sure, i have been a ham for years, and
haven't seen some act like that. .73's from n4pge in griffin, georgia.
My reply to Dana is as follows:
And after all the trouble I went to for over an hour and a half to
manually reformat that previous post especially so that your voice
synthesyzer might handle it easier.
Having an unyealding respect for the rules that have made the amateur
radio hobby so great does not make a person a nut.
However, when a person risks his license and the reputation of amateur
radio to satisfy a selfish and greedy urge to take the law into his own
hands to deal with bad eleven meter abusers, that is not what I call a
very rational act.
Signed
Ted
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On 25 Jan 1997, B2Dude wrote:
>
> This jammer might also interfere with the 27mhz R/C car band! If they are
> running a 60m.p.h. gas car, U could really screw ther day. Be nice and
> don't build it. some cars cost $1000+!!!
You are right, but they don't care about anything but themselves. That's
exactly why I jumped down their throats right off. Ham radio is supposed
to be a community venture, a "team-effort". That means knowing how to be a
"team-player".
I was just talking to a friend the other day suggesting that we need to
get back into doing things like antenna-raising parties like in the old
days... yet another wonderful thing that has darn near disappeared from
the ham scene due to self-centeredness. It's sad.
Stan Aughenbaugh
Ted wrote:
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>
> On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, J&J Mac wrote:
>
> > Stan Aughenbaugh wrote:
> > >
> > > Right on Rob! It irritates the #$%^^& outof me when I see one of these
> > > 'Band Nazis' or your word 'info nazis' act like they are the sole
> > > arbiters of who should know what.
>
> Stan, you and Rob and Jim are really showing yourselves to be buttholes.
> Like typical LIBERALS you resort to anyone with morals as a "nazi". I'm
> sure my friends in the JDL would appreciate that a lot. Did you also
Who died and left you boss?
Or Did someone give you a badge and make you the Lone Ranger of ethics,
information, and morals?
What I *really* said, was that you can give or not give information
but it's none of your nosey business what will be done with it.
Is that clear enough? if they don't volunteer it it's none of your
business.
> Rememeber? "Nazi" is short for "National Socialist",(in German "national"
> is spelled "nazional" or something like that).
> You buttholes have a lot of nerve. You who like to run around using the
> term "nazi" on anyone you think is too strict are watering down people's
Are you a intelligent person ACTING like a jerk? Or a real jerk playing
it straight?
> knowledge of what evil scumbags the REAL nazis were. And then out of the
> other side of your face you vote, march and screem for:
>
> 1: more government
Wrong, less and BTW less NAZI-like intrusion into individual's lives.
> 2: gun-control
Couldn't be farther from the truth.
> 3: godless schools to force lies into our kids heads such as there >being nothing wrong with perversions like homosexuality
Your ethics are as corrupt as your politics. You apparently (point 3)
think schools *should* teach sex, morals, ethics... should they
also require all males be circumcised to enter school? Do you
have any other religious requirements?
I think the schools have no right to teach any of those until we see
some
success with math, reading, the spoken and written language.
> 4: re-enslaving most of my people into dependancy on government
What the *hell* are you talking about? You are the one wanting to run
other people's minds and probably later their bodys(actions).
Will you allow independant thought or go straight for the throat like
the thought police in 1984 by Orwell. 're-enslaving most of my people'
my tired ass. I don't care if a person is Jewish (apparently it's
important to you) or anything else, if they stay out of my business,
I'll leave them alone, but the self appointed enforcers of morals,
ethics
etc, are NAZI's regardless of their various pursuasions religious,
moral,
race, or creed.
> 5: the continued legalization and taxparer-funding of that damnable
> holocaustic carnage upon infants,(aka "abortion"), which has murdered
You sure have a problem keeping to topic... let me remind you...
Someone's request for information and your hypocritical refusal to
answer and also castigate them. Where *did* you get that badge?
> hundreds of millions of Americans, started by a true Nazi sympathizer d
> a true racist named Margeret Sanger who was the founder of the notorious group called "Planned Parenthood".
There's that worrying about other's morals and minding other people's
business... stay the hell out, social worker.
<snip>
> us you DARE to call any of us moral conservatives a "nazi"? That HAS to
Well you got that part right anyway.
> be the most BLATENT and arrogant example of hypocracy anyone has ever yet committed!
You certainly have showed us!
>
> Yeah, this really IS way off this newsgroup's topic, but YOU were the ones
> who pushed my button by calling me a nazi when I am one of the most
> anti-nazi people I know. And as far as I'm concerned, anyone who is for
> the lowering moral standards, be it a moral standard that is related to the
> ham radio hobby or not, displays that they have no conscience, no decent
> upbringing and nothing to offer ham radio except degradation. And anyone
> who cheers them on is no better either.
I might even use the 'Jack Booted Mind Thug' here!
Big Brother would have loved you. Do you peek in people's windows too.
>
> > > I think your comments were great and to the point. Last thing we need on
> > > this group are the thought police. Personally I always try to give an
> > > answer if I have it. The responsibility lies in how the information is
> > > used.
>
> Yeah Stan, why dont we just get rid of all the rules and create a
> spectrum wide citizens band... is that what you want? That's how you
No, I want is adult society with all of us responsible for their own
actions, vs the adult-child one you appear to want to create with you as
the adult and all the rest of us the children (ur is that slaves)
> it sound. If you want to jam or help jam communications, do us hams who
> CARE about the hobby a favor by leaving your license at the door as you
> go out to buy a CB radio. Then you won't need to BUILD something to jam
> 27 MHz... you'll have a CB and you can play "drop the mall" all day long.
>
> > > Gad! I sure am glad MArconi and Edison (or Tesla) didn't have to put up
> > > with these types, we'd all still be senfing smoke signals to each other.
>
> And you'd be figuring out ways to jam that too, I'll bet.
You blew it again bunky! I didn't ask the question, I just caught you
peeking down dresses.
> > I dunno! they would probably be in with the EPA whining about how the
> > smoke singals are causing 'second-hand-smoke' fatatalities!
>
> The EPA? Isn't that YOUR bunch? Anyone against good moral conduct HAS to
> be a liberal,(that's the whole point of this reply). To a conservative,
> good moral conduct comes FIRST, even above tax-cuts,(preferabley WITH
> tax-cuts)!
...and keep those boots shined... you haff' friends in de old country?
(intended as a joke, but Bunky won't think so, it's not politically
correct)
>
> You guys got some nerve calling an Alan Keyes/Abe Lincoln/Teddy Roosevelt
> type of Conservative Republican a nazi. In my book licentious liberals
careful on the facts...
> are so lame they aren't even worthy to kiss the southbound end of a
> northbound rat. We have a repeater set aside for your type in Los Angeles
> on 147.435 where all the queers and weirdos can go screw up without being
> hassled while us hams who want to respect the rules use the rest of the
Respect whatever you like, but you still have no license to enforce
anybodies urles or ethics. The usual method is to go to the group
that *does* enforce the rules, and get a badge from them. Until then
if you don't have a badge you don't enforce the ethics or rules.
> As far as I'm concerned you who bash me for endorsing good morals in the
> hobby are just a bunch of Richard Burton wannabe's.
Who gave you that badge as the Lone Ranger of Morals?
I think your real problem here is either constipation or a secret desire
to be a social worker.
> You have just seen that can't just push me and think I'll turn tail and
> run. I will not just push back... I'll blast back with both barrels.
blastless & brainless.
Stan KF0NC
"90% of all statistics are made up"
John Harper
Ted wrote:
>
> Up yours. Your previous post made it obvious that you endorse these
> Richard Burton wannabe's.
Ted,
What a rude way you have of expressing yourself in public forum. Your
mother and I are very dissappointed in you, Son.
--
John H. ((((((((((/\)))))))))
/ \
/87.9\
/ FM \
http://www.GeoCities.com/CapeCanaveral/6702
Brien G. McCrea
Stan Aughenbaugh wrote:
>
> Rob Neff wrote:
> >
<snipped liberally>
> Gad! I sure am glad MArconi and Edison (or Tesla) didn't have to put up
> with these types, we'd all still be senfing smoke signals to each other.
>
My better sense tells me to stay out of this one, but I couldn't
resist...
Tesla did have to put up with these types ... he had to put up with
Thomas A. Edison.
:>)
Brien
KE7WB
J&J Mac
Ted, you are so damned warped I can't even understand why any of us even
reply to your racist hatred.
It is people like you who give Amateur Radio a bad name. Face it. WE ARE
ALL DIFFERENT.
If you don't like it, tough luck.
No try and lighten up a little and try and accept that while some may
agree with your rigidly conservative ways, Most of us won't. Your
beliefs are not mine.
Signed,
Jim.. The butthole libral who voted for the adulterous anus from
Arkansas. And YES my vote was the one that made the difference. I Voted
for him just to piss YOU off.
And remember, one mans sin is another mans right.
P.S. Go get a drink of water.
J&J Mac
Ted wrote:>
>
> If you weren't skipping posts you'd have seen some things. I'm not going
> to sit here and brag on myself. And as far as I'm concerned, having a
> fierce attitude,(which I admit I have), is not immoral, nor is there
> any rule against it. If you waste a commodity which is precious to me
> such as my time, you can expect to be told off. So don't act surprized
> when it happens. If you KNOW you don't have the right answer when the
> right answer is what someone needs, are you helping or hindering? Answer
> me that.
>
Sorry Pal, you ARE wrong. to force YOUR morals upon another IS A SIN!
Kevin Muenzler WB5RUE
Ted <ted...@die.spam.die> wrote:
<the "real Ted" deleted>
-On Sat, 25 Jan 1997 or...@capital.net** wrote:
->
-> b2d...@aol.com (B2Dude) wrote:
->
-> >This jammer might also interfere with the 27mhz R/C car band! If they are
-> >running a 60m.p.h. gas car, U could really screw ther day. Be nice and
-> >don't build it. some cars cost $1000+!!!
->
-> Anybody who is foolish enough to operate a radio-control car
-> anywhere near 27 Mhz is asking for a crash anyway.
-
-So are you gonna be the one to tell the FCC and the toy companies to
-reallocate the RC channels?
GO GET 'EM TED!
The only RC's you'll find on 27 Mhz are TOYS. The real "$1000"
RC's are on VHF and UHF, usually around 70 Mhz or 470 Mhz. Yes,
there are hams that use 6 meters and 70cm for RC. As far as
the issue of jamming goes, it is ILLEGAL -- PERIOD. Whether
you agree with the issue at hand, jamming is malicious interference
and is ILLEGAL no matter what the service.
[off subject=ON]
[SoapBox = ON]
I heard an interview with the chief editor of the New York Times
last week that concerned the recording of telephone (cell phone)
conversations of "Mr. Newt". He stated that it really
didn't matter that the evidence was gathered in an illegal
manor but only the seriousness of the charges involved.
SCARY!!!! Does this mean that if you are charged with
a serious crime that your constitutional rights just go
out the window? The nature of the evidence or the manor
in which it was obtained doesn't matter? REALLY SCARY!!!
There are many guilty-even-if-proven-innocent crimes.
Sexual harassment, child abuse, rape -- all very serious
but they are thrown around so flagrantly in many instances
that they are deluded and many times the REAL crimes are
lost in the shuffle. Kind of like crying wolf.
And these jokers (Stan and the like) accuse us
of being Nazis? My grandfather was there! I have
hundreds of pages of his memoirs of that era. It was
truly scary what the Nazis did to people they didn't
like. Even their own citizens. It is starting all
over in this country just like it did in Germany in
the late 1920's and early 1930's. REALLY SCARY!!!
[SoapBox=OFF]
Sorry for getting of the subject of this newsgroup but
these liberal idiots that throw around politically-
correct insults like Nazi, homophobe and the like just
burn me up. They run out of arguments of their own
(assuming that they had one to begin with) so they
use these politically-correct insults to blur the
subject at hand.
Kevin, WB5RUE
Those who are willing to give up liberties for safety's
sake deserve neither liberty nor safety.
I am Voltohm of Borg! Resistance is E/I, Power is EI, you
will be attenuated!
J&J Mac
Ted wrote:
>
> I was just talking to a friend the other day suggesting that we need to
> get back into doing things like antenna-raising parties like in the old
> days... yet another wonderful thing that has darn near disappeared from
> the ham scene due to self-centeredness. It's sad.
Funny, This here libral voted for the adulturer from Arkansas to piss
you off just happens to have
several antenna raising parties scheduled for early spring. Damn Ted!
you and I just might have to hear each other on the air! that is unless
you don't know morse code..
Jim..
or...@capital.net**
John Harper <j..harper@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ted has been raving a lot lately. Probably off his medication again.
Rob Neff
<snippity, snip-snip>
>Does the thought of turning them in make you squeemish or something?
Like they would do anything. Check the batteries in you reality
sensor.
>But it did affect someone else. It cost you your integrity! And now that
>you are bragging about it here in public it's just one more case of
>outlaw conduct by a ham that someone can nit-pick about when they need
>excuses to give away OUR bandspace to UPS or some other service! THAT is
>the point. If we can be labled as irresponsible it can cost us dearly!
Waaa.. Waaaa.. Come on Ted, what part of a real life are you just not
interested in?
>
>Do you even care about that, especially after we JUST went through the
>threat of losing 2M and 70cm to commercial LEOS? Probably not.
Went? I'm afraid not, try, GOING.. It ain't over the the fat lady
sings.
>
>Those of you doing or endorsing this can just DROP the lame excuses. Like
>I indicated in an ealier post, it's nothing but a selfish disregard for
>the law which makes you no better than the CB'ers, because you're
>stooping to that same level that they operate on.
Let me turn that around for you:
"Those of you bashing and cursing this can just DROP the lame excuses.
Like I indicated in an ealier post, it's nothing but a selfish
disregard for the <freedom of information and the exchange of ideas>
which makes you no better than the CB'ers, because you're stooping to
that same level that they operate on."
Some CBers like to cover other up with a carrier when they don't like
what they hear. I'm sure you'd cancel posts, if you haven't allready,
if you could.
That's about the size of it.
Rob Neff
bondo@buggy
Its better stand around and look stupid than to open your mouth
and remove all doubt....
Rob Neff
>Stan, you and Rob and Jim are really showing yourselves to be buttholes.
>Like typical LIBERALS you resort to anyone with morals as a "nazi". I'm
Um, Ted? I'm a *conservative* Republican. Let's get that straight.
>sure my friends in the JDL would appreciate that a lot. Did you also vote
>to re-elect that adulterous anus from Arkansas in the Oval Office? It
No, did you? Neither did anyone I asked, but someone did.
>wouldn't surprize me in the least, but that's all off topic, I suppose.
>If you knew anything at all about real nazis you'd know that it has
>something very much in common with your beloved liberalism: SOCIALISM...
>Rememeber? "Nazi" is short for "National Socialist",(in German "national"
>is spelled "nazional" or something like that).
Get the political platform correct Jim. We conservatives are not like
that. You see Jim, I don't want government involved, where did you get
the impression that we did?
>You buttholes have a lot of nerve. You who like to run around using the
>term "nazi" on anyone you think is too strict are watering down people's
>knowledge of what evil scumbags the REAL nazis were. And then out of the
>other side of your face you vote, march and screem for:
No.. When you guys don't like whats being said, you do what you can to
shut them up, or at least attack their character. See any similarities
yet?
>5: the continued legalization and taxparer-funding of that damnable
>holocaustic carnage upon infants,(aka "abortion"), which has murdered
>hundreds of millions of Americans, started by a true Nazi sympathizer and
>a true racist named Margeret Sanger who was the founder of the notorious
>group called "Planned Parenthood".
I'm beginning to think that you couldn't point out a Republican if you
were at a GOP rally.
<snip worthless chatter>
You need help Jim. If you don't get help from Charter, please, get
help somewhere.
Rob Neff (N7ORY)
*REGULARLY VOTING*, Conservative Republican since 1989.
Rob Neff
<snip>
>
>Kevin, WB5RUE
>Those who are willing to give up liberties for safety's
>sake deserve neither liberty nor safety.
I was going to reply with another lengthy post, but, since you
obviously don't mean what you say, I'll leave this one alone. (for the
most part)
I find it funny that in one breath you tell Ted he's a hero for trying
to shut people up, but at the same time you post a signature that says
something quite different. So do we give up the our constitutional
right to free speach so Ted can have a little safety? Or is that
exempt from your interpretation?
73
Rob
J&J Mac
or...@capital.net** wrote:
>
> Ted has been raving a lot lately. Probably off his medication again.
>
> --
> 73,
> Butch N2YMJ
> (To send mail, delete the
> two stars at the end of my address.)
Lithium, Thorizine or Prozac? Maybe we can all pitch in?
(GRIN)
j..
Tony Zugec
Ted (ted...@caprica.com) wrote:
: I can't believe you guys are acyually encouraging each other, and what's
Shut up.
J&J Mac
Sorry Rob, you have the wrong person. I didn't write any of the below.
Rob Neff wrote:>
> >wouldn't surprize me in the least, but that's all off topic, I suppose.
> >If you knew anything at all about real nazis you'd know that it has
> >something very much in common with your beloved liberalism: SOCIALISM...
> >Rememeber? "Nazi" is short for "National Socialist",(in German "national"
> >is spelled "nazional" or something like that).
>
> Get the political platform correct Jim. We conservatives are not like
> that. You see Jim, I don't want government involved, where did you get
> the impression that we did?
>
> >You buttholes have a lot of nerve. You who like to run around using the
> >term "nazi" on anyone you think is too strict are watering down people's
> >knowledge of what evil scumbags the REAL nazis were. And then out of the
> >other side of your face you vote, march and screem for:
>
> No.. When you guys don't like whats being said, you do what you can to
> shut them up, or at least attack their character. See any similarities
> yet?
>
> >5: the continued legalization and taxparer-funding of that damnable
> >holocaustic carnage upon infants,(aka "abortion"), which has murdered
> >hundreds of millions of Americans, started by a true Nazi sympathizer and
> >a true racist named Margeret Sanger who was the founder of the notorious
> >group called "Planned Parenthood".
>
Kevin Muenzler WB5RUE
n7ory*@*primenet.com (Rob Neff) writes:
-<snip>
->
->Kevin, WB5RUE
->Those who are willing to give up liberties for safety's
->sake deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-
-I was going to reply with another lengthy post, but, since you
-obviously don't mean what you say, I'll leave this one alone. (for the
-most part)
-
-I find it funny that in one breath you tell Ted he's a hero for trying
-to shut people up, but at the same time you post a signature that says
-something quite different. So do we give up the our constitutional
-right to free speech so Ted can have a little safety? Or is that
-exempt from your interpretation?
-
-73
-
-Rob
I think you misunderstand me (or maybe I misunderstood Ted)
I took Ted to be one who was for free speech and all but who
also was for following the law. My interpretation of Ted's
position was that he was against anyone using equipment
to jam CB. It is ILLEGAL to jam anyone on any service.
If you mean that Ted's is trying to shut people up because
he doesn't want them to jam others then YES I agree with him.
Jamming is illegal. If you want the leftist-liberal spin on
jamming, it is just like censorship. You, by jamming someone,
are censoring what he is saying. This can be equated to
censoring text by blotting out portions. So, by being for the
"rights" of people to jam others then you are for censorship.
Kind of hypocritical, isn't it? But then most liberal positions
are. They are for free speech unless it offends them, they are
they are against discrimination unless it benefits them, they are
for higher taxes (for the "rich") but not for them.
Liberals measure their compassion by counting the number of people
they are helping. Conservatives measure their compassion by
counting the number of people who no longer need their help.
Anyway, enough of this off the subject stuff.
Kevin, WB5RUE
Peter Gottlieb
Ted <ted...@die.spam.die> wrote in article
<Pine.BSF.3.91.970128...@prog1.caprica.com>...
> you vote, march and screem for:
>
> 1: more government
Hey!!! You guys!!! Cut this out!!!!
Act like gentlemen and you will be treated as such!
not disclosed
does anyone have the plans to make a device in which I could drop next
to a offending 27mhz operator? I am looking for a device that will key
and buzz with stronger signals <say above 8 s units> so the person
will not be able to hear his local cohorts. <high school kids>
I appreciate any and all replies.
looking forward to hamming it up in the NEAR future....
countdown to test time!
J&J Mac
I have used a simple circut from an old RS RC transmitter. I made a few
small changes to the board to create oscillation, changed the xtal to
the channel this jerk would 'puke' on and peaked the output
to a full 50 Milliwatts. I put the whole unit with a pair of 9V in
parallel into a cigarette hard pack with 108" of magnet wire to work as
an antenna and hung it in the guys pine tree about 20 yds from his
Antron. He could be heard but he couldn't hear anyone over the
osclilator. The bug lasted almost a week-until it rained and soaked thru
the cigarette pack.
Joe Leikhim
>
> ]not disclosed wrote:
> >
> > does anyone have the plans to make a device in which I could drop next
> > to a offending 27mhz operator? I am looking for a device that will key
> > and buzz with stronger signals <say above 8 s units> so the person
> > will not be able to hear his local cohorts. <high school kids>
> > I appreciate any and all replies.
> > looking forward to hamming it up in the NEAR future....
> > countdown to test time!
Get an old style mechanical door buzzer, the kind with a coil and
mechanical clapper. Attach two 108" dipoles to it, one on each side of
the buzzer contact switch. string them out vertically or horizontally to
match the intended targets antenna polarity. Apply a large 6 volt
lantern battery. Bye Bye CB band. If that isn't high tech enuff let me
know.
--
Joe Leikhim
Jlei...@nettally.com
"tv dinner by the pool,
i'm so glad i finished school" -F.Zappa 1967
"The Revolution will NOT be televised" -Gil Scott Heron
Tony Zugec
J&J Mac (jm...@wco.com) wrote:
: I have used a simple circut from an old RS RC transmitter. I made a few
: small changes to the board to create oscillation, changed the xtal to
: the channel this jerk would 'puke' on and peaked the output
: to a full 50 Milliwatts. I put the whole unit with a pair of 9V in
: parallel into a cigarette hard pack with 108" of magnet wire to work as
: an antenna and hung it in the guys pine tree about 20 yds from his
: Antron. He could be heard but he couldn't hear anyone over the
: osclilator. The bug lasted almost a week-until it rained and soaked thru
: the cigarette pack.
: ]not disclosed wrote:
: >
: > does anyone have the plans to make a device in which I could drop next
: > to a offending 27mhz operator? I am looking for a device that will key
: > and buzz with stronger signals <say above 8 s units> so the person
: > will not be able to hear his local cohorts. <high school kids>
: > I appreciate any and all replies.
: > looking forward to hamming it up in the NEAR future....
: > countdown to test time!
Well, I made a jammer for the AM band long ago, you should be able
easily to get it to work at 27.
I used a 555 timer rich in harmonics as the driver and also
designed it so that it would sweep a portion of the AM band
using the vco input. Worked great. Since it was swept, it
didnt matter what station you listened to, it was annoying
to hear and eventually the radio would be turned off.
Somewhere to start, anyway.
tony
John Harper
Get a life, Geek.
--
John
Rob Neff
Someone kick the soap-box out from under this guy before the wind at
that altitude carries him off by his over-inflated head.
"We're sorry, the newsgroup you have posted to is not receptive to
posts of this kind. Please, fix your sense of humor and try your post
again."
Rob Neff (N7ORY)
Ted
I can't believe you guys are acyually encouraging each other, and what's
worse, encouraging new hams to STOOP to the same kind of ILLEGAL crap
that the CB operators do. If you stoop to an illegal CB'ers level, then
that makes YOU nothing but an illegal CB'er yourself and deserve to have
your license revoked and all of your ham equipment auctioned.
What the HELL were you dimwitts THINKING? What the HELL is WRONG with
you? How could you even fix your face to suggest that a fellow ham do
illegal crap like that. WE are SUPPOSED to be ABOVE that! WE are SUPPOSED
to do things LEGALLY! Let ME catch a fellow ham pulling that shit and I
won't bother looking for an Official Observer... I'll personally drag his
ass to the FCC myself and have him made an example of.
HOW DARE you idiots lower the ham standards of conduct, and in PUBLIC too!!!
You need your license and equipment taken, and maybe you need your ass
kicked too for making the rest of us hams look bad! WE ARE NOT OUTLAW
OPERATORS! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? So if you want to clean up the
airwaves, we can start right here, by disciplining our OWN ranks!
Anyone wanna form a physical-discipline committee? I have a razor-strap!
Rob Neff
"Larry Robison" <rob...@amnorth.com> wrote:
>Well Rob that's your opinion and I think YOU are a bit out of line to
>attempt to speak for the newsgroup! I subscribe to this newsgroup and you
>sure don't speak for me.
Oh well. I never was the type of person that liked lines all that
much.
>I happen to think that he's right in step with what's going on here and I
>am pissed off about it too! Have you ever bothered to post the same
>message of inappropriateness to those who are responsible for the thread in
>the first place?
Necessity does not warrant it. They have a right to ask these
questions, just as you have a right to either answer the question or
be an info-nazi butt-head. Your choice, and you have made it.
>Does anyone else out there think it is appropriate to post a question
>asking how to jam someone (or post a reply telling him how) and jump on the
>guy who brings the absurdity to light?
Sure.. I'm interested in finding out how others dealt with problems
like these. And I'm sure that the circuits that some may describe
could be modified for "other" uses, other than that intended.
Besides, it's a fun topic. At the least it's slightly humorous. Put a
fuse in line with the nerve that runs to that part of your brain
responsible for your temper; so it blows before you do.
Some of you guys need to unscrew your heads, and thread them right
next time you put them back on. These groups are for the expression of
opinions and ideas, RELATED to the topic intended. It is not within
your authority to tell people here, what is and is not appropriate for
a person or group of persons to tell others in an open discussion if
it IS related to the chartered topic. If you do not want to answer the
question, or add to the discussion, kill the thread and go about your
business. It's that simple.
Frankly I'm tired of hearing people whine about giving out information
like this. And therefore I said what I did. But you will seldom see me
get on a soap box like this. Perhaps you are one of those 'operators'
that lives near this guy and may feel a little guilty? Who knows. I
pitty people who feel they are so 'above' this type of behavior, their
crap doesn't stink. They are probably the ones that tune thier radios
out of (licensed) band(s), ker-chunk repeaters without IDing, and
allways run at full power regardless if the station lives accross the
street or not, and still believe they are within the letter of the
law.
Enough slamming allready. Let them be.
73
Rob Neff (N7ORY)
Stan Aughenbaugh
Rob Neff wrote:
>
> "Larry Robison" <rob...@amnorth.com> wrote:
> >Well Rob that's your opinion and I think YOU are a bit out of line to
> >attempt to speak for the newsgroup! I subscribe to this newsgroup and
> Oh well. I never was the type of person that liked lines all that
> much.
> >I happen to think that he's right in step with what's going on here and I
> >am pissed off about it too! Have you ever bothered to post the same
> >message of inappropriateness to those who are responsible for the
<sanity snip>
> Some of you guys need to unscrew your heads, and thread them right
> next time you put them back on. These groups are for the expression of
> opinions and ideas, RELATED to the topic intended. It is not within
> your authority to tell people here, what is and is not appropriate for
> a person or group of persons to
<snipped here too>
> Frankly I'm tired of hearing people whine about giving out information
> like this. And therefore I said what I did. But you will seldom see me
> get on a soap box like this. Perhaps you are one of those 'operators'
> that lives near this guy and may feel a little guilty? Who knows. I
> pitty people who feel they are so 'above' this type of behavior, their
> crap doesn't stink. They are probably the ones that tune thier radios
> out of (licensed) band(s), ker-chunk repeaters without IDing, and
> allways run at full power regardless if the station lives accross the
> street or not, and still believe they are within the letter of the
> law.
> Enough slamming allready. Let them be.
> 73
> Rob Neff (N7ORY)
Right on Rob! It irritates the #$%^^& outof me when I see one of these
'Band Nazis' or your word 'info nazis' act like they are the sole
arbiters of who should know what.
I think your comments were great and to the point. Last thing we need on
this group are the thought police. Personally I always try to give an
answer if I have it. The responsibility lies in how the information is
used.
Gad! I sure am glad MArconi and Edison (or Tesla) didn't have to put up
with these types, we'd all still be senfing smoke signals to each other.
73 & Don't let up on the thought police for a minute, else they'll
take over,
Ted
On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, J&J Mac wrote:
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I can't believe you guys are acyually encouraging each other, and what's
> > worse, encouraging new hams to STOOP to the same kind of ILLEGAL crap
> > that the CB operators do. If you stoop to an illegal CB'ers level, then
> > that makes YOU nothing but an illegal CB'er yourself and deserve to have
> > your license revoked and all of your ham equipment auctioned.
>
> Sniff.. Whaaaa.. that hurt my feelings.
Is that what you think my objective was? To hurt your feelings? If so
then you are neot as smart as I previously thought. My objective was just
what I SAID. To see licenses revoked and ham equipment auctioned off or
donated to poor hams who know how to act in a way that HONORS their
fellow hams!
> > What the HELL were you dimwitts THINKING? What the HELL is WRONG with
> > you? How could you even fix your face to suggest that a fellow ham do
> > illegal crap like that. WE are SUPPOSED to be ABOVE that! WE are SUPPOSED
> > to do things LEGALLY! Let ME catch a fellow ham pulling that shit and I
> > won't bother looking for an Official Observer... I'll personally drag his
> > ass to the FCC myself and have him made an example of.
>
> Please do! and while you at it, be sure to have them inspect all of YOUR
> system also!
MY systems don't include any MALICIOUS INTERFERENCE JAMMING DEVICES!
> And then ask them about all of the illegal radios and amplifiers out
> there on 11M.
Screw 11 meters. I say enforce the laws on them too! But since WE are
SUPPOSED to know better, hams should be punished for jamming worse than
CB'ers! At least CB'ers can honestly claim insanity and stupidity as a
defence! What's YOUR excuse?
> > HOW DARE you idiots lower the ham standards of conduct, and in PUBLIC too!!!
>
> Lower the 'ham' standards of conduct? like ignoring no coders? like
> giving the cold shoulder to new operators on the repeators? like pumping
> max legal limit to work that "rare" station while they ask for a qrp
> station?
What the hell does that have to do with me? I in now way support any of
that! Are you PAYING ATTENTION? Cause if you were you'd have seen me say
that I agree with "Uncle Wayne" W2NSD 100% on those matters! I am an
enemy of the good-ol-boys network! Pay attention and get a clue!
> For your sake Ted, I hope you are attempting to write your comments with
> some humor because it makes you look like a whining jerk.
Up yours pal. You defending conspiracy to maliciously interfere with
other stations and other services doesn't make YOU smell like a rose either!
And to those who actually DO such stuff I STILL say:
Glenn Sparks
From: gsp...@ix.netcom.com(Glenn Sparks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Re: 27 mhz jammer
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In <01bc08f9$7abcbe40$d104fa26@larry> "Larry Robison"
<rob...@amnorth.com> writes:
>
>Well Rob that's your opinion and I think YOU are a bit out of line to
>attempt to speak for the newsgroup! I subscribe to this newsgroup and
you
>sure don't speak for me.
>
>I happen to think that he's right in step with what's going on here
and I
>am pissed off about it too! Have you ever bothered to post the same
>message of inappropriateness to those who are responsible for the
thread in
>the first place?
>
>Does anyone else out there think it is appropriate to post a question
>asking how to jam someone (or post a reply telling him how) and jump
on the
>guy who brings the absurdity to light?
>
>Larry W9MDX
Isn't it amazing how as soon as someone asks how to modify a radio to
use for marine or something they are told right away, how they cannot
do that because it is not a type accepted radio, which while not legal,
is magnatudes less of a problem than advising someone how to jam a
signal, even using spark gap methods.
Could it be because the guy was wanting to Jam a CB users, naw, hams
would never be that prejudiced against another radio service.
I would guess from the original post, that this is a group of high
school or JR high kids who chat at night on CB, unless they are
plotting muggings, or drug deals, I can't think of the reason to jam
them, except for retaliation for something. If it is TVI, call the FCC
and they will send you a book on how to fix your junk consumer
electronics products to fix the problem.
Sparky KI5GY
Larry Robison
Ted
On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, J&J Mac wrote:
> Ted, get a life. Anyone reading that thread would know enough to take
> things in jest, except maybe you.
Oh really? I have receive NUMEROUS pats on the back in email both for
condemning this thread and for the way I worded my condemnation of this
thread.
YOU get a life! Or at least get a live brain!
>
> Ted wrote:
> >
> > I can't believe you guys are acyually encouraging each other, and what's
> > worse, encouraging new hams to STOOP to the same kind of ILLEGAL crap
> > that the CB operators do. If you stoop to an illegal CB'ers level, then
> > that makes YOU nothing but an illegal CB'er yourself and deserve to have
> > your license revoked and all of your ham equipment auctioned.
>
> Sniff.. Whaaaa.. that hurt my feelings.
>
> > What the HELL were you dimwitts THINKING? What the HELL is WRONG with
> > you? How could you even fix your face to suggest that a fellow ham do
> > illegal crap like that. WE are SUPPOSED to be ABOVE that! WE are SUPPOSED
> > to do things LEGALLY! Let ME catch a fellow ham pulling that shit and I
> > won't bother looking for an Official Observer... I'll personally drag his
> > ass to the FCC myself and have him made an example of.
>
> Please do! and while you at it, be sure to have them inspect all of YOUR
> system also!
> And then ask them about all of the illegal radios and amplifiers out
> there on 11M.
>
> >
> > HOW DARE you idiots lower the ham standards of conduct, and in PUBLIC too!!!
>
> Lower the 'ham' standards of conduct? like ignoring no coders? like
> giving the cold shoulder to new operators on the repeators? like pumping
> max legal limit to work that "rare" station while they ask for a qrp
> station?
>
> For your sake Ted, I hope you are attempting to write your comments with
> some humor because it makes you look like a whining jerk.
>
> >
> > You need your license and equipment taken, and maybe you need your ass
> > kicked too for making the rest of us hams look bad! WE ARE NOT OUTLAW
> > OPERATORS! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? So if you want to clean up the
> > airwaves, we can start right here, by disciplining our OWN ranks!
> >
> > Anyone wanna form a physical-discipline committee? I have a razor-strap!
> >
>
>
> Jim, KB6ZOP
>
J&J Mac
Ted, get a life. Anyone reading that thread would know enough to take
things in jest, except maybe you.
J&J Mac
Stan Aughenbaugh wrote:
>
> Right on Rob! It irritates the #$%^^& outof me when I see one of these
> 'Band Nazis' or your word 'info nazis' act like they are the sole
> arbiters of who should know what.
> I think your comments were great and to the point. Last thing we need on
> this group are the thought police. Personally I always try to give an
> answer if I have it. The responsibility lies in how the information is
> used.
> Gad! I sure am glad MArconi and Edison (or Tesla) didn't have to put up
> with these types, we'd all still be senfing smoke signals to each other.
I dunno! they would probably be in with the EPA whining about how the
smoke
singals are causing 'second-hand-smoke' fatatalities!
Jim..
Glenn Sparks
... snip all
OK, we have heard about the legalities, the reasons and everything
else. Some of the realities are sometimes these illegal operators are
causing a lot of harm. Let me tell a Story about a CB'er in the mid
70's who called himself EZ lovin.
This guy was running a really dirty station, causing TVI to telephones,
business radios, hams, TV, stereo's, he came in everywhere in this
small town.
Everyone knew who he was, contacting the FCC got them a pamplet on how
to put bypass capacitors on their TV's.
Several times his coax was pinned, cut, power line feed cut etc. He
always came back on in a day or two. Finally someone did indead build
a jammer close to his location. Problem was solved, for a while he
would still transmit, and pretend he was talking with someone, but he
wasn't, and finally got tired of that, and gave up. I don't think any
other method would have solved the problem, this guy was the spoiled
brat son of one of the "city fathers", and was pretty much untouchable
by locals.
I have considered the jamming method myself, but so far discussing the
problem with the offenders has helped, but keep in mind the sunspot
activity is very low right now, and most of the high power rigs are
idle right now, just wait about 3 years. The reason I have considered
the Jamming is all of my TVI complaints from neighbors have been CB
operators, but since I have the big antenna they assume it is me.
I guess I would have to ask the reason the original poster wants to
jam, a similar experience, or to get revenge on the neighbor for some
possible real or perceived wrong. I suspect from the original post it
is the latter, so I would not condone the action.
All in all I enjoyed the different methods, was a bit appauled by the
spark gap idea though, and there was some humor. Although the other
poster was correct it was supporting illegal activity reguardless of
the reason.
I guess this is one of those area's where I don't have a black or white
answer, but I do know when faced with someone running lots of power,
who will not cooperate, killing their receive is the only way to get
them off the air, none of the other tactics work, they just fix it, and
start watching their station closely. The FCC won't help, unless they
interfer with Police or medical there is not much chance of fixing the
problem legally.
my .02 worth
Sparky KI5GY
Ted
Sense of humor my ass!
I'm not so stupid as to believe that the "old war stories" that were
posted in this thread were just "jokes". Until I spoke up it was obvious
they were accounts of events. To defend it, even if it were a joke, is to
show a blatent lack of care or respect for the hobby's image.
Admit it... You dont give a hoot if the general public sees ham radio as
a valuable asset to humanity or not.
Bayard R. Coolidge
--
Yeah, this is going too far. It's really appalling to see someone
actually advocate building jamming gear for the 27 MHz band. Don't
you realize that if you do build and operate this stuff that you'll
cause a lot of interference to those who are trying to develop and
test their spread-spectrum equipment? It's the only reasonable place
that the SS developers can use to prove the noise immunity and
interference-rejection capabilities. So, please, give them a break...
:-) :-) :-) <--- mega smiley's for the humor-impaired.
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B2Dude
This jammer might also interfere with the 27mhz R/C car band! If they are
running a 60m.p.h. gas car, U could really screw ther day. Be nice and
don't build it. some cars cost $1000+!!!
Ted
Yeah... the least they could have done was to disguse their intent by
asking instead how to make a QRP xmitter for a t-hunt. But like I told
Rob, they don't CARE how they make other hams look. Sheesh! It's bad
enough that Art Bell gets on talk-radio bragging about being a ham now
and then while the rest of the time talking about seeing his black
triangles! Art's got people thinking we a bunch of UFO kooks! Then
there's hacker Kevin Midnick (sp?)
So I have to wonder... What's next? Maybe allegations about the Oklahoma
City bombers being hams? Or maybe some idiot will start promoting that
white supremacy net on 75M that meets on certain mornings? Maybe cult
leaders like Jim Jones and David Koresh were hams too? What was Fidel
Castro's callsign again? Sheesh! This hobby needs good PR enough as it is
already without these carrot-waxers giving the rest of us a bad image!
