Check Out New Radio: RCI-2985DX
Charlie McManus
Ranger Base:
http://www.radioway.com/2985dx.htm
Gary McAdams
Charlie McManus <cmcm...@charter.net> ...
> Just in case you haven't seen it yet. Here's a link to the forthcoming
> Ranger Base:
>
Yep,
The "serious operators" all mode base station.
Complete with roger beep and all the echo you
can stand...
Get real guy, no amateur radio operator will want
this CB, especially at a price that will buy a REAL
amateur rig.
Please take your SPAM back to rec.radio.cb.
Thanks
Gary WG7X
willy
this gear all over Asia. It has wiped out the 10 and 12 metre bands in Asia,
Pacific, VK and ZL.
The competitor to this company is bringing out a version that goes all the
way to 20 metres. In VK , ZL and the Pacific, during the night the 20 metre
band is full of pirates singing and carrying on like on CB. There is nothing
that can be done because there is no law and simply put there governments
dont care.
HAMS SHOULD NOT SUPPORT THESE COMPANIES. ALL THEY PROMOTING IS TOTAL ANARCHY
ON THE HAM BANDS.
Yes we know there are many CBers using Icoms and Yaesus etc, but these
radios are priced to sell. Thats why there is Taxi companies from the
Philiphines on the low end of 10 metres.
Willy
"Gary McAdams" <g.m.m...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Jesse Stanley
10 or 12 Meters? It will talk Circles around a Kenwood or Yaseu on SSB and
on AM. FM I dunno about.
THe DX models with Surface Mount Technology are a solid performer not just
good for CB !
Gary McAdams <g.m.m...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
Tom ki0pa
Get real. There is NO comparison between a over priced CB radio ( RCI)
and a ham rig.
Tom
"Jesse Stanley" <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote in message
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House @myhousenet Power House
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>
>
> The "serious operators" all mode base station.
>
> Complete with roger beep and all the echo you
> can stand...
Obviously you did not bother to read....
"...In order to create this low cost version, Ranger has removed the high
power amplifier, and features many people don't use or want to pay extra
for, such as [*]Echo[*] and Talk Back..."
> Get real guy, no amateur radio operator will want
> this CB, especially at a price that will buy a REAL
> amateur rig.
>
> Please take your SPAM back to rec.radio.cb.
And once again, VERY unobservant... It *IS* in REC.RADIO.CB! Open your
eyes my man! Just because it's in other newsgroups as well...
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary WG7X
>
>
>
Thanks,
Someone who can read...
Charlie McManus
has NO ECHO, NO TALKBACK CRAP.This Radio Covers 10 and 12 meters. It is a
heck of a deal for the beginning ham. About half the price of the full of
bells and whistles radios like Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu.
It has NO CB! unless you convert it! Kenwood, Icom and Yaesu also have CB
in them if you "convert them too"
Why all the prejudice? Afraid someone might talk just as far, sound just as
good as a radio you wasted $1000 or more on?
Gee! Get a Life!
Gary McAdams <g.m.m...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
Squeezehack
> on AM.
I don't think so Jesse, with all due respect, on AM for sure it is better
but, on SSB the WOOD is awesome.
Me over here
Bill Nadzam
Does have a Roger Beep.
Jesse Stanley
How so?
Tom ki0pa <ki...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Charlie McManus
stuff is getting pretty crappy, while the RCI stuff keeps getting Better!
Jesse Stanley <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote in message
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> Sir,
>
> How so?
>
>
>
> Tom ki0pa <ki...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:AqJ%6.143722$%i7.97...@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com...
> > You mean it will cause more interference than a Kenwood or Yaesu.
> >
> > Get real. There is NO comparison between a over priced CB radio
WorldWideProziac
Am than a Kenwood or Yaesu that's about it. SB You out of your mind.
"Jesse Stanley" <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote in message
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Jesse Stanley
Charlie McManus <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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N4ehx1
Bob Miller
Looks way overpriced. It's $459 for 25 watts pep ssb, 10 watts am-fm-cw, and
covers 10 and 12 meters only. What do you do when those bands are dead?
A Kenwood TS50S, with 100 watts and all hf bands, 160 thru 10, is only $699 at
AES.
Bob
k5qwg
Gary McAdams
Dude! theres a real good handle ya sure...
I can read just fine, and what I read was
a spam ad for a CB radio posted to the
rec.radio.amatuer groups.
Keep your CB crap to the CB groups and
all will be OK.
BTW, I went to the ranger website for
my info, and all I saw was a bunch
of overpriced CB crap designed for
fools...
CUL..
BTW... PLONK!
Power House <Power House @ My House (DOT) Net> wrote in message
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Gary McAdams
It is all CB crap, posted to an amateur group.
If you think that we are fooled by this thinly disguised
SPAM, you need to go back to school.
Pllease keep the CB radio SPAM on the
CB radio group.
Is that really all that hard to understand?
RCI has one hell of a way to go to be considered
a real contender in the amatuer radio world.
I went to their website, all I see is poorly disguised
and overpriced CB radios.
Methinks you doth protest too much!?
--
Follow ups trimmed
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Jesse Stanley
Just because you spent $800 on a Kenwood,Icom or a Yaseu doesn't mean its a
better radio than a RCI
Gary McAdams <g.m.m...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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G. Skiffington
(DX60/HG10/Comanche) was a lot more exciting.....must have been the era.
de VE1AJF
Charlie McManus
Gary McAdams <g.m.m...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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W6DKN
> Gary,
>
> Just because you spent $800 on a Kenwood,Icom or a Yaseu doesn't mean its
a
> better radio than a RCI
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... ad infinitum.
In other words, as "Seven of Nine" would say, "Your cognitive algorithms
appear to be derived from obviously defective core data".
73 de W6DKN
Charlie McManus
and few people appreciate the technology or take part in it. I am afraid it
is true that a lot of people nowadays are just "appliance operators"
G. Skiffington <skif...@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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David
"Charlie McManus" <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Gary McAdams
> Yep, another perfectly closed mind. You are right where you belong!
Thanks!
I'll accept that as a compliment. I do belong in the
amateur radio world. Judging from the stuff you
post about imagined "rights" to use the spectrum
as "you" see fit, I'll guess that you are at home
in the CB rathole.
Have fun there!
Gary
--
BTW, PLONK!
Follow ups trimmed yet again.
Meade
Yeah -- go to RCI's site and check out their new 6-meter mobile rig!
They say it's excellent to take to those "field trip contests" -- hey
RCI, if you're building ham gear, get the No. 1 contest of the year
correct, MORONS!!!!
On top of that, did you notice the nice PA feature on that new 6-meter
rig? Oh boy, I gotta get one!!!
CB crap.
willy
points, how can this be better. You better read the specs again
"Jesse Stanley" <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote in message
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willy
blocking dynamic range. Please also let us know the transmitter phase noise
and 3rd order IMD numbers.
What you saying is just heresay CB crap.
Willy
"Charlie McManus" <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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cmcmanus
$300 bucks for an all mode rig than $400 dollars for one that will only do
FM.
I never was much of a "field day" participant, mostly noise and confusion
released on the bands (kinda like channel 19 cb). I have made a lot of field
trips with radios though.
Maybe I just misunderstood the posting. Or possibly the word "for" was
accidentally deleted between "correct" and "morons" ?
Meade <mdaf...@the-rma.org> wrote in message
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JB
: > Complete with roger beep and all the echo you
:
JB
I see used HW-101s for $100 with the manual, and it's a great
learning experience. You can have a lot of fun while you save your
money for antennas and upgrades. My primary radio is a TS-830s
because it's a man's radio with great features, performance and a
solid feel. Some of the newer stuff is just so chintzy.
That ranger thing is just a busy box for the playpen. It's bigger
than a IC 706 though.
AC6TK
"Jesse Stanley" <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote in message
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: I agree Charlie Theres nothing wrong with the Radio for 10 & 12
: > >
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
:
:
W6DKN
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> Poor 3rd order IMD, poor phase noise and poor receiver 3rd order
intercept
> points, how can this be better. You better read the specs again
>
Sadly, these GB's - "good buddies" - haven't the slightest clue what those
specifications mean and how they relate to the performance of the rig. If
they did, RCI would be out of business tomorrow. Trying to have a rational
discussion of these technical specifications with a GB is like trying to
explain nuclear fusion to a migrant farm worker. A classic exercise in
futility...
73 de W6DKN
W6DKN
> Well tell us what the 2nd and 3rd order intercept points are plus the
> blocking dynamic range. Please also let us know the transmitter phase
noise
> and 3rd order IMD numbers.
>
> What you saying is just heresay CB crap.
>
> Willy
The GB's (good buddies) can't comprehend - and don't care - about those
things. As long as the rig has 200% modulation, transmits a 50 kc wide
signal, and can drive their "leeneer's" they are happy. Throw in a few
extra knobs and buttons and a big meter with lots of "swing" and they are
in chicken band heaven...
73 de W6DKN
chuck
<supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote:
>In defense of Ranger's RCI line of radio Name me a better radio for SSB on
>10 or 12 Meters?
The Kenwood TS-950SDX
> It will talk Circles around a Kenwood or Yaseu on SSB and
>on AM. FM I dunno about.
>THe DX models with Surface Mount Technology are a solid performer not just
>good for CB !
>
Bull. A Ranger can't even touch the audio nor the power performance,
nor the reciever of a Kenwood.
End of story.
-Chuck
Jesse Stanley
chuck <k8...@arrl.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:28:51 -0400, "Jesse Stanley"
> <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote:
>
> >In defense of Ranger's RCI line of radio Name me a better radio for SSB
on
> >10 or 12 Meters?
>
> The Kenwood TS-950SDX
>
>
> > It will talk Circles around a Kenwood or Yaseu on SSB and
> >on AM. FM I dunno about.
> >THe DX models with Surface Mount Technology are a solid performer not
just
> >good for CB !
> >
>
> Bull. A Ranger can't even touch the audio nor the power performance,
> nor the reciever of a Kenwood.
>
> End of story.
>
> -Chuck
>
>
Jesse Stanley
W6DKN <w6...@qsl.net> wrote in message
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Jesse Stanley
I take it your a Electronics Engineer?
W6DKN <w6...@qsl.net> wrote in message
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Jesse Stanley
Where do you come up with it being a busybox for the playpen?
JB <ac...@nospamcybertime.net> wrote in message
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chuck
<supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote:
>Some people really are ignorant these days
>
yep. and your the biggest of them all.
Too bad, you ain't like NE8V. he's got more smarts than you'll ever
have.
Ralph Mowery
antenna gain numbers for either CB or Ham antennas and they both seem to
be just made up for the most part. YOu can not go by what the makers
tell you, but have to check them out. Don't depend on the magazines
either. One magazine gave a good review to a mobile rig and said yo
could see the display in any lighting condition. I could hardly read
mine and a fellow ham could not hardley read his display either. If
they mislead you on the simple things like that, just think how they may
mislead you on other things.
Afterall , how many bad reviews did you ever see ?
...
even a TS430 is better than that garbagenews:3b40c503$0$62139$6d5e...@news.eurekanet.com...
...
mostly used by CBers. They sell them everywhere and thats why 10 and 12
meters are full of idiots. They have a new 6 meter rig coming. But screw
then TEN TEC has a 6/2 rig that i would buy anyday before that cb based
crap.
W9JCM
"Charlie McManus" <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Just in case you haven't seen it yet. Here's a link to the forthcoming
> Ranger Base:
>
> http://www.radioway.com/2985dx.htm
>
>
Jesse Stanley
... <w9...@reno.quik.com> wrote in message
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willy
MAGNUM IS BRINGING OUT ONE THAT WILL GO AS LOW AS 20 METERS. WE HAVE ENOUGH
CB INTRUDERS AND OTHER PIRATES. THESE RIGS ARE MADE FOR CB PIRATE TYPES.
DONT LET YOUR HAM DOLLARS SUPPORT A COMPANY THAT ENCOURAGES THE BLATANT
DESTRUCTION OF THE HAM BANDS.
"Jesse Stanley" <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote in message
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Meade
glorified CB. Well c'mon, do some research! This particular
chicken-band hybrid is the "low power" version of the RCI-2990DX, a
100-watt radio that includes 10 and 12 meters, and retails for
$599.95!!!
Can you believe a two-band HF rig for $600? Ham Radio Outlet is
currently selling the all-band Kenwood TS-50S, which has many more
features and a much better receiver, for only $100 more! Who in their
right mind would pay that kind of money for the RCI? (I know, I know.)
(If these radios weren't meant to be modified, then why do they have
frequency counters? Do CBers really need to know which frequencies
their 40 channels are on? They do? OK. I'll wait for RCI to come out
with the first TV set that displays 205.25 MHz when I'm watching
channel 12.)
Breaker 27.185, good buddy!
Mark Keith
The ones I used to hear on 10m couldn't touch much of anything. I
can't remember the exact model number, but the ones I've heard over
the past few years have had to be some of the most pathetic radios
I've ever run across.
Constantly FM'ing, RF problems with the audio. etc, etc. A friend of
mine had one, and the transmit audio was so bad you couldn't hardly
use it. I used to talk to a guy in CA with the same problem. I ain't a
jokin...My 706 would eat one of those suckers for lunch and spit out
the seeds. Oh heck..Any radio I have ever had in the last 20 years
would have been better...:/ And I don't have high end radios either,
except for my 830. "it's old now, but was top of line kenwood when it
was made".I'm not on a ranger dissin program, but they were bad bad
radios back in the late 80's early 90's. And still are I imagine,
until I see different. MK
willy
"Meade" <mdaf...@the-rma.org> wrote in message
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Peter J. Bertini
There are a lot of decent inexpensive ham rigs made by SGS,
TenTec, Electrokit, etc. that will beat the RCI hands down.
They will also hold their resale value far longer. I paid peanuts
for my RCI-2950 used. Less than 100 bucks, and I got what I
paid for at that price.
Regards
Peter
"Charlie McManus" <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> If you would have paid attention, you would have realized that this radio
> has NO ECHO, NO TALKBACK CRAP.This Radio Covers 10 and 12 meters. It is a
> heck of a deal for the beginning ham. About half the price of the full of
> bells and whistles radios like Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu.
>
> It has NO CB! unless you convert it! Kenwood, Icom and Yaesu also have CB
> in them if you "convert them too"
>
> Why all the prejudice? Afraid someone might talk just as far, sound just
as
> good as a radio you wasted $1000 or more on?
>
> Gee! Get a Life!
>
>
> Gary McAdams <g.m.m...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:AxH%6.26286$J91.6...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > Charlie McManus <cmcm...@charter.net> ...
> > > Just in case you haven't seen it yet. Here's a link to the forthcoming
> > > Ranger Base:
> > >
> >
n7kn
I've provided a copy of a QST product review of the RCI 2950 from 1992.
http://www.geocities.com/deancowellyoh/pr9202.pdf
1.72 Megs, requires Adobe Acrobat reader.
Charlie McManus <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Just in case you haven't seen it yet. Here's a link to the forthcoming
> Ranger Base:
>
> http://www.radioway.com/2985dx.htm
>
>
Bert Craig
The RCI-2950 is a mobile while the RCI-2985 is a base. It does indeed
have the appearance of being able to be "rack mounted." I wouldn't try
it though as I believe the frame is merely for aesthetic purposes with
little structural strength. (Not to mention that I personally don't
like the RCI line of radios.) Hope that helps. Take it easy.
73 de Bert
KC2HMN
"n7kn" <n7...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<8Yc27.4831$b3.13...@feed.centurytel.net>...
Meade
n7kn
I was using.
I threw it up here, http://www.ptinet.net/~n7kn/ajax/pr9202.pdf
1.72 Megs, requires Adobe Acrobat reader.
Regarding Bert's post: I realize that the 2985 is a base. I believe it is
also designed to cover 10, 11 and 12 meters while the 2950 covers 10 and 11.
I'm sure you will find (once you take the screws out of it) that it is a
very similar design to the 2950. The article I'm trying to present was
written by very objective experts. It really punches some holes in some of
the opinions the RCI fans hold.
I belive the bottom line is if you are considering shelling out $500 you
would get more features, more power, more frequency coverage, better
rejection of unwanted signals, etc... with a used Kenwood/Yaesu/Icom.
BTW, the HR 2510 got a much better review.
Aaron H. Voobner
maybe this will help clarify things.
-Aaron-
FCC ISSUES REMINDER ABOUT HF TRANSCEIVERS
The FCC has issued a friendly reminder about those HF transceivers
ostensibly marketed for "amateur" use, but actually designed and
intended specifically for the so-called "freeband" radio operators,
who operate primarily in the 26 to 28 MHz frequency range.
In a May 13 Public Notice, the FCC points out that it's a violation of
FCC regulations to import or market a transmitter designed or intended
to operate outside the amateur bands unless the equipment has been
issued a grant of equipment authorization for the radio services it's
capable of operating. The FCC says it wanted to clarify its rules on
equipment that's "intended to operate in various radio services in the
high frequency radio spectrum, including '10-meter' Amateur Radio
Service (ARS) equipment." The notice--directed to "manufacturers,
importers, vendors and users of these transceivers"--emphasizes that
transmitters intended for use by FCC-authorized radio services except
the Amateur Radio Service must be type-accepted.
In the words of the Public Notice: "The Commission considers that the
transceivers discussed above are intended to be operated on
frequencies where the use of type-accepted equipment is required,
because of the simplicity of modifying them to extend their operating
frequency range."
The FCC also noted that it's illegal to import, market or operate a
transmitter that requires a grant of equipment authorization but for
which no grant has been issued, and that it's a violation to transmit
on frequencies allocated to a licensed radio service "without the
appropriate Commission-issued station license." Violators could be
subject to fines or imprisonment as well as equipment seizure and
forfeiture.--FCC
m
off and hurts himself. You need a LIFE pal if you have nothing better to do
than tell EVERYBODY ELSE what they do or think is wrong based on your
ideals. Last time I checked this was AMERICA.
"Aaron H. Voobner" <voo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mark Allread
> Somebody needs to help this asshole down off of his soapbox before he falls
> off and hurts himself. You need a LIFE pal if you have nothing better to do
> than tell EVERYBODY ELSE what they do or think is wrong based on your
> ideals. Last time I checked this was AMERICA.
It's not "everybody else" that's wrong, just you, with your obviously warped
world view. It would appear that you are one of those who, under the
rationalization of "liberty" and "freedom," would claim unlimited private
rights to limited public resources. Transmit all you want, on any frequency you
want, just don't allow it to enter MY airspace, asshole.
Tom
"m" <myp...@myplace.com> wrote in message
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Aaron H. Voobner
> off and hurts himself. You need a LIFE pal if you have nothing better to do
> than tell EVERYBODY ELSE what they do or think is wrong based on your
> ideals.
Not at all, sir. I am merely responding to posters within this thread
with some very relevant information. These are your country's laws,
sir. Why should the publishing of them in a public forum disturb you
so much?
>Last time I checked this was AMERICA.
It still is. And if you don't like the FCC laws here, you have a
choice. You can work to change them, or you can leave. There's no
valid excuse for being an outlaw.
-Aaron-
Meade
and its product reviews since 1979, and I don't think I've ever seen
them make so blatant a negative comment: "positively terrible?" Wow!
The ARRL usually tries to be fair and not "slam" a product. It seems
they're trying to tell us that this radio is one book you definitely
CAN read by the cover!!!
BTW, my hometown doesn't have a ham store and I have to visit a (gulp)
CB shop to get my cable, connectors, etc. -- actually they have a
pretty good selection and quality stuff, but the prices are kind of
high. Well, this place (called "Mobile Music" and located in an old
gas station) not only sells the entire Ranger line, including that
huge, rack-mount CB whose innards I'm sure are mostly air, but also
the full Astatic line, the entire MFJ line and -- get this --
Ameritron amplifiers, proudly on display along with the Cobra CBs and
the Sadelta Echo-Master mikes! Hmmmm ....
n7kn
see if they said anything good about that radio. I think it was the split
operation for 10 meter repeaters (try finding a tone squelch board for an
RCI, all the ads say they're available).
The nearest store to me is in Seattle (40 miles away, Radio Depot). I
usually just order from HRO in Portland. The gas savings and sales tax
savings far offsets the cost of shipping. Sometime you can even weasel your
way out of the shipping cost.
Ameritron amps in a CB shop? I don't think Radio Depot even stocks them.
Too much overhead.
cmcmanus
radio that is discontinued, no longer manufactured and replaced by a newer,
much improved model. The new RCI radios are totally different. They are now
surface mount component construction, perform much better. Remember the
first Japanese cars? Look at them now!
When you find an un-biased article that is really about the radio we have
been discussing, please post a link to it and we will all look at it. This
is ancient information and does not describe any current Ranger product.
n7kn <n7...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Meade
> been discussing, please post a link to it and we will all look at it. This
> is ancient information and does not describe any current Ranger product.
>
while I haven't found a review, I did manage to find a mod page for
the radio. All you have to do to open the radio up for 26 to 30 MHz
TRANSCEIVE is move a jumper plug from one set of pins to another
inside the radio.
I thought it was against the law in the U.S. to sell radios that were
readily designed to operate illegally ... maybe an e-mail to the FCC
is in order.
Meade
1. If the RCI-2990 is a 10- and 12-meter ham-band radio, then take a
look at this photo of the front panel and tell me if you see something
interesting about the way the main tuning knob is labeled:
http://www.rangerusa.com/closeup2990dx-2.jpg
2. It's nice to see fine citizens such as "The Outlaw" using RCI's
fine "amateur radio" products:
http://www.howdyneighbor.com/dfitch/cb/
3. In an earlier post in this thread, I questioned why a CB would need
a frequency counter. Well, now I have to wonder the reverse -- if the
ranger 29xx series are 10-meter radios, why does one current model --
the RCI-2980 -- have a CHANNEL display?
http://www.etronicsonline.com/images/Ranger/2980.jpg
Breaker 27.185 good buddy!
cmcmanus
looking at the wrong thing. (big surprise!)
This radio cannot be modified for out of band coverage unless you have the
"export" version which requires an electronic key. (A small pcb with a few
surface mount components on it)
I keep having to educate you folks that "know so much" about these radios!
If you had a clue as to what is currently going on with this equipment, you
wouldn't be displaying your ignorance here.
The RCI-2950DX, The RCI-2970DX are also models that CAN NOT be modified by
jumper or an electronic key.
ASK Amateur Electronic Supply or Ham Radio Outlet. Their models WILL NOT
MODIFY!!!!
You must have a different revision (export version) for it to even accept
the modification key!
Darn it, When will you people listen?
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cmcmanus
Galaxy if you contract them to do so. Unfortunately, the radios you see in
your second link are illegal imports. Galaxy radio doesn't even support the
Galaxy Saturn or the Saturn Turbo in the American Market. Check out:
http://www.galaxyradios.com/techsupport.html
Copied from the above page:
"Please be aware that we are the importer of the Galaxy DX radios only, and
our technicians do not service the Saturn, Saturn Turbo, Melaka, Pluto,
Sirius or any Galaxy radios other than the DX models."
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cmcmanus
Gee, I guess you never had an old ham radio with crystal positions that were
marked CHANNEL!!!
Who cares! Lots of folks use the term Channel and frequency interchangeably
although obviously incorrectly.
I suppose we should all complain about the radio that has "Clarifier" or
"Fine Tune" written on the panel instead of the "Receiver Incremental Tuning
(RIT)" control.
How about the Uniden HR2510 that so many old "hambones" consider a ham
radio? It is labeled by channels. So do most of your Kenwoods, Icoms and
the rest of that wonderful stuff when pertaining to memories frequencies.
Since when is it a memory channel? I thought all this "superior" equipment
only had memory frequencies? Its just terminology buddy, Get a grip!
Never mind, don't bother get a grip. Attitudes like this is what kills the
attraction to ham radio anyway. Good work, keep it going. It's obvious no
one can tell you anything. You already know everything about this equipment.
Open minded people are required to advance any hobby or technology. Try
opening yours!
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n7kn
Evidently Gordon West wrote and article in Popular Communications (January,
2001, I believe) regarding the 2970DX.
The article must reflect positively on RCI because RCI mentions it on their
website. I have not been able to find this article online. All I can find
is a brief description of it: "Gordon West stopped by Ranger Communications
and 'picked up' a 2970DX and went marching off into the hills with it." I
would be surprised if Mr. West actually hooked the rig up to a spectrum
analyzer.
If someone *gave* me an RCI 2970 to write a product review I would certainly
highlight the positive features and neglect to mention the negative ones.
QST buys the products they review.
I would also like to mention that modern amateur HF transceivers (at least
the ones I own) can be modified to transmit everywhere they receive (500 KHz
to 30 MHz). The dealer will tell you how to do it, if you can prove you
have a valid MARS/CAP ticket. As Dick mentioned; it's the licensee's
responsibility to know his band limits.
Aaron H. Voobner
Randy
calling them are fine for CB usage. But, do not attempt to imply that the
2950, 2970, 2985, et al, are REAL ham radios. They are not, never have been,
and never will be. They are a ruse, brought into this country as
ham(snicker) rigs to get past customs. That's all. It's very similar to the
black box cable TV descrambler industry. These are all test boxes.....yeah
right! Get over it. \
They are fine for 10 meter FM usage.....IF you ad a tone board to them. They
state that as an option. They don't even make one for them, nor do they have
connections on the board for one. You have to wire them into the board
yourself. SSB is also OK, as this does not require CTCSS.
You people touting these over-horsepowered CBs as ham rigs need to step
back, take a deep breath, and accept things as they are.
Think I'll fire the blender up and have a couple of 'ritas.
Later.
Meade <mdaf...@the-rma.org> wrote in message
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Meade
resulted in my discovery of several places that sell these radios
modified. A typical example, this one a fine, reputable dealer in
Florida:
http://www.pinklightning.com/Ranger.htm
Oh, and sure -- they say the radios are "FOR EXPORT," just like you
say! But wait! Let's read their disclaimer to see if they'll really
ONLY sell the radios to foreign purchasers (and find out a little
about what "peaking and tuning" really is)! Read the disclaimer -- I'm
surprised they're comfortable advertising their illegal service on the
Internet!
http://www.pinklightning.com/Peaking.htm
Sorry my friend, you can't convince me. These radios are glorified CBs
that are designed to be modified. Otherwise, if Ranger is so
interested in amateur radio, how come we don't see them selling any
equipment for the other HF bands? After all, 10 will be dead again in
a couple of years and their "supposed" market will dry up until the
next sunspot peak comes around. (Radio Shack took their 10-meter rig
off the market for a few years until things heated up again.) If
Ranger REALLY is after the ham market, it seems it'd be more logical
to sell a 160-10 meter HF rig -- or at least one that covers a few of
the lower HF bands that'll be popular when the sunspot cycle wanes
again.
willy
EQUIPMENT IS SOLELY REPSONSIBLE FOR THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE 10 METRE
BAND IN ASIA AND PACIFIC. THEY STARTING TO PRODUCE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES AS
HIGH AS 14 MHZ. THE PIRATES HAVE ALREADY STARTED AND HAVE HUGE NUMBERS NOW
ON 20 METERS. NO HAM SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THESE COMPANIES.
IT MIGHT NOT BE APPRARENT IN NORTH AMERICA. BUT ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
ONCE IT GETS INTO SOUTH AMERICA. YOU MARK MY WORDS.
WILLY
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willy
THATS WHY ALL THE TRUCKERS AND CBERS HAVE EM.
NEXT TIME YOU SPEAK TO A VK ASK THEM HOW 10 METERS IS CRUDDED UP WITH ALL
THE INDONESIAN AND ASIAN PIRATES YSING RCI PRODUCTS.
THIS COMPANY IS A LOOSER AND NO HAM SHOULD PUT 10 CENTS INTO THEM. REALLY WE
ALL SHOULD BE CALLING FOR A HAM BOYCOTT OF THEIR EQUIPMENT
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willy
AND VK ZL. HAMS SHOULD NOT BUY THEM FULLSTOP.
WILLY
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Jesse Stanley
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cmcmanus
should consider all of them CB radios since they modify and are used by a
lot of people on CB. I guess they are all glorified CB's too!
Yes you can see them posted on webpages by proud CB operators as their CB
base station. Just because something can be modified for use where its not
supposed to be, you want to out throw them out of the "ham" market.
Remember, Alinco didn't make anything but vhf and uhf equipment at first
either so I guess they would be considered by you to be 2 meter band CB
manufacturers and not "real ham equipment" because they didn't manufacture
H.F. equipment. Of course they are "okay" now since they are selling H.F.
stuff (by that standard anyway).
You folks are not interested in equipment, you are just fighting the classic
ham verses CB war that everyone is tired of.
You are not fooling anyone but yourselves. If the equipment meets required
specifications and is used on the amateur radio bands, the fact remains that
it is amateur radio equipment. If it were illegal and not accepted by the
FCC then I guess Amateur Electronic Supply, Ham Radio Outlet and all the big
ham store's are just as guilty as your local CB or truck stop. There are
great big gaping holes in all your arguments! All the radio snobs are just
going to have to accept it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Don't give
us this bogus argument that its not ham equipment!
I never felt Icom or Alinco was qualified as quality ham equipment, but
that's just my opinion. Your mileage with that stuff may very. I remember
when Icom first came on the market. My brother in law, my sister and I are
all licensed hams and we all have had Icom equipment. Every Icom we had with
the exception of the old IC-2AT had their problems with quality, years later
they have emerged as a pretty decent manufacturer. Yaesu and Kenwood have
been around a long time before them and they had a much better reputation at
the time. Hopefully the FEW open minded hams that are left may see Ranger
bloom into a full fledged amateur product line company so people will have
more choices. Most surviving amateur radio manufacturers are only still in
business because they make commercial stuff also. If they relied only on the
amateur market, they'd be gone along time ago. Fortunately, Ranger makes
commercial and CB stuff and are diversified enough to survive.
Their six meter stuff will never modify to go on CB, neither will their vhf
handhelds or rural telephony equipment. You guys are just prejudice, admit
it!
Carry on folks, I'm just about tired of wasting my time with you.
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cmcmanus
line of amateur equipment manufacturer gets out of the business. Kenwood may
go the consumer electronics only path. Remember, it's been recently (within
the last 20 years?) that they got big into home and mobile audio. They have
seen the light! With limited Amateur purchases they have diversified.
By the way, Ranger WILL install the boards for you. They are using standard
Communication Specialists encoder products. They have realized with their
new RCI-5054DX radio that this is a MUST for the FM repeater enthusiast.
Ranger has been "in the country" for many years marketing commercial and CB
equipment. Go to their website and read about it!
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cmcmanus
find it, I will post it.
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cmcmanus
and numerous others if Ranger equipment is in this category then huh?
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cmcmanus
willy <will...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Wes Stewart
>So, these radios are UNMODIFIABLE, huh? Well, another quick search
>resulted in my discovery of several places that sell these radios
>modified. A typical example, this one a fine, reputable dealer in
>Florida:
>
>http://www.pinklightning.com/Ranger.htm
>
>Oh, and sure -- they say the radios are "FOR EXPORT," just like you
>say! But wait! Let's read their disclaimer to see if they'll really
>ONLY sell the radios to foreign purchasers (and find out a little
>about what "peaking and tuning" really is)! Read the disclaimer -- I'm
>surprised they're comfortable advertising their illegal service on the
>Internet!
>
>http://www.pinklightning.com/Peaking.htm
I hopin' dat dere grama' and spellin' be for export only too.
But then, the folks from Pink Lightning might get some remedial English lessons
while they are doing time in federal prison.
Wes Stewart, N7WS
JB
we may fall prey to our own snares.
1) Ham radios need not be "type accepted" because
they are intended for operation by licensed Hams.
Hams and prospective hams have always needed
to build, buy or modify equipment in order to learn
about ham radio and be able to participate. The fact
that the ham is assumed to be able to build, modify
or adapt equipment from other services, places the
sole responsibility for proper operation on the licensee
rather than the radio. It is understood that ALL radios
can be modified to operate in an unauthorized manner.
2) Radios intended for use on CB or other
commercial "channels" such as marine, must be
"type accepted" for their intended use, and must not
be tampered with in a way that might result in improper
operation. In fact there has been a move to limit
responsibility only to the manufacturer. Hence,
Cell, Nextel and a host of emerging technologies
that require remote customer activation and time
charges. This is because of numerous complaints
by those who can't get a word in otherwise.
3) Traditionally, "good amateur practice" was the
standard for spectral purity and operations, although
the abuse of 10, 11 and 12 meters by non-hams who
have found this loophole to exploit, has resulted in
tighter restrictions.
4) With the advent of the no-code ham license,
perhaps it is no longer necessary for prospective
hams to be able to buy radios until after they are
licensed, stamped, blued,glued, tattooed and boo-
hooed by every police, political and security agency
in the world (sorry, I got carried away).
The point is, there are no illegal Ham Radios (except for
a few exceptions that don't really apply to hams) only
illegal Ham Radio operators. We are all tested on our
band privileges. But, There are no illegal CB (or
commercial) operators because they are untrained and
assumed to be unable to distinguish right from wrong?
Only equipment and the manufacturers and suppliers
are held responsible for "allowing" the operators to
"inadvertently" operate outside their authorizations.
Jim, AC6TK
http://www.cybertime.net/~ac6tk/svs.htm
"cmcmanus" <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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: So most all the H.F. "ham" rigs modifiable for 11 meter coverage. I
:
:
Barry OGrady
>ALL THESE RADIOS CAN ME MODIFIED. THEY ARE MADE TO BE MODIFIED FULL STUP
>THATS WHY ALL THE TRUCKERS AND CBERS HAVE EM.
>
>NEXT TIME YOU SPEAK TO A VK ASK THEM HOW 10 METERS IS CRUDDED UP WITH ALL
>THE INDONESIAN AND ASIAN PIRATES YSING RCI PRODUCTS.
>THIS COMPANY IS A LOOSER AND NO HAM SHOULD PUT 10 CENTS INTO THEM. REALLY WE
>ALL SHOULD BE CALLING FOR A HAM BOYCOTT OF THEIR EQUIPMENT
You are a looser loser. Stop shouting, get a life, and learn to spell.
-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barryog
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
W6DKN
> I guess the FCC should REMIND Amateur Electronic Supply, Ham Radio Outlet
> and numerous others if Ranger equipment is in this category then huh?
>
Damn straight. The FCC should send a letter of notice to the legitimate
ham dealers informing them that the RCI rigs are illegal junk, and follow
it up with a visit to the Ranger manufacturing and distribution facilities
to close them down, sieze the inventories, and prosecute the principals.
While they are at it, they should do likewise to Copper Electronics and
it's principals...
73 de W6DKN
Ed Cregger
Ed Cregger, NM2K
nm...@arrl.net
*To the humor impaired - THIS IS A JOKE!
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n7kn
This "slick" product is reviewed in the January 2001 issue, page 66.
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n7kn
JB <ac...@nospamcybertime.net> wrote in message
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> We have to be careful who and what we attack or
> we may fall prey to our own snares.
>
> 1) Ham radios need not be "type accepted" because
> they are intended for operation by licensed Hams.
> Hams and prospective hams have always needed
> to build, buy or modify equipment in order to learn
> about ham radio and be able to participate. The fact
> that the ham is assumed to be able to build, modify
> or adapt equipment from other services, places the
> sole responsibility for proper operation on the licensee
> rather than the radio. It is understood that ALL radios
> can be modified to operate in an unauthorized manner.
Ham rigs do have to meet FCC approval before they can be sold in the US (see
back cover of December 2000 QST ad for Kenwood TS 2000). New models must
meet certain spectral purity requirements. They don't call this "type
acceptance" but many hams refer to it as such.
>
> 2) Radios intended for use on CB or other
> commercial "channels" such as marine, must be
> "type accepted" for their intended use, and must not
> be tampered with in a way that might result in improper
> operation. In fact there has been a move to limit
> responsibility only to the manufacturer. Hence,
> Cell, Nextel and a host of emerging technologies
> that require remote customer activation and time
> charges. This is because of numerous complaints
> by those who can't get a word in otherwise.
>
> 3) Traditionally, "good amateur practice" was the
> standard for spectral purity and operations, although
> the abuse of 10, 11 and 12 meters by non-hams who
> have found this loophole to exploit, has resulted in
> tighter restrictions.
Right. Amps for amateur use cannot be sold to operate "out of the box"
between 24 and 50 MHz (or something like that, I don't have the regs in
front of me). Most, however, can be modified to pick up 10 and 12 meters.
>
> 4) With the advent of the no-code ham license,
> perhaps it is no longer necessary for prospective
> hams to be able to buy radios until after they are
> licensed, stamped, blued,glued, tattooed and boo-
> hooed by every police, political and security agency
> in the world (sorry, I got carried away).
I'm not sure if I follow this point. You mean that one should have a ham
ticket in order to buy any ham tranceiver?
>
> The point is, there are no illegal Ham Radios (except for
> a few exceptions that don't really apply to hams) only
> illegal Ham Radio operators. We are all tested on our
> band privileges. But, There are no illegal CB (or
> commercial) operators because they are untrained and
> assumed to be unable to distinguish right from wrong?
> Only equipment and the manufacturers and suppliers
> are held responsible for "allowing" the operators to
> "inadvertently" operate outside their authorizations.
Right. At least as far as CB/commercial equip goes. The ham must be sure
he is in compliance with FCC rules. The radio won't do it for him.
cmcmanus
agree with it or not!
Thank You!
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Meade
AES, HRO and other ham dealers will only perform MARS/CAP mods if you
bring in a copy of the license that authorizes it. In comparison, I
have found several CB dealers on the Web that will perform these mods
for anyone and everyone, regardless of their justification for doing
so. Sure, you can't control what people do in their workshops at home,
and many hams do "open up" their radios. I'm not saying hams are any
better or worse than CBers as people. But when "authorized dealers"
offer to perform illegal modifications in-house for anyone with a
couple of bucks, there's a problem. You will NEVER see HRO, AES, Texas
Towers, Burghardt's or any other ham dealer ADVERTISING that they'll
perform mods for you -- even if it's "at your own risk." I dare you to
go surfing and try to find one.
And I was mistaken -- it's Ranger's RCI-2950 that employs a jumper
plug that you move from one set of pins to the other to perform the
out-of-band mod. But my logic still stands: it's against U.S. law (and
I'm pretty sure it applies to CBers as well as hams) to sell a radio
in this country that is readily modifiable for non-type-accepted use.
With most, if not all, of the type-accepted ham gear you see out
there, there are mods -- but you have to be fairly adept with a
soldering iron and surface-mount technology these days to perform
them.
I wouldn't be so quick to slam ICOM -- they have one of the highest
reputations in the ham community today. In fact, I've been a Kenwood
man for all of my 20 years of hamming (TS-530SP, TS-440S, TS-850S,
TS-570D) until now. Last month my TS-570D got taken out by lightning,
and I replaced it with an ICOM IC-746. It has a full-duty-cycle rated
amp -- do you know what that means? Yaesu can't make that claim with
their competing FT-920 rig, and the rig has far more features for the
money than a TS-570S.
Alinco's not a bad brand -- yeah, there was resistance to the new name
at first, about 10 years ago, but I think they've established
themselves as a decent competitor in the ham market. But you're right
-- they don't make any high-end HF stuff -- yet. But they made some of
the best and most affordable dual-band VHF/UHF mobile equipment in the
early 90s!
Ed Cregger
radios to operate on the two, six, ten and seventy
centimeter meter ham bands. Whether or not a radio is a CB
radio or not is irrelevant to hams. The manufacturer has to
worry about FCC approval in order to sell new amateur gear,
not the amateur radio operator. I'll use any radio I please
and I will make it conform to the FCC's prescribed emission
standards.
The world is changing and lots of people aren't coping very
well with the changes. I'm one of them. It merely depends
upon the topic of discussion at the moment. However, RCI
does not bother me in the least. Obviously, there is a
market for their products. Just as obvious is the fact that
if RCI wasn't fulfilling that need, someone else would.
Boycotting RCI is pointless. I don't buy their stuff anyway.
I had a 2970 for a while. I wasn't impressed. I attribute
the experience to suffering a major brain fart. RCI is
history for me anyway and the brain fart is over. At least
until the next one.
Yes, there are pirate stations operating on the ham bands.
So what? You can't stop them. Our FCC can't stop them. The
Indonesian, Mexican and Australian governments can't stop
them, just to name a few. So why is anyone worrying about
it? Instead of allowing yourself to get upset over something
you are powerless to change, how about finding something to
do that makes you happy?
I came very close to selling all of my amateur radio
equipment a while back. Close enough to know that if I get
too upset again because the world isn't the way it used to
be, I can always sell it for real. To put the icing on the
cake, I have purchased two brand new HF/VHF/UHF combo rigs
this year. I'm not happy with either one. Things have
changed. So what? The world doesn't care.
If I cannot find some enjoyable aspect to amateur radio in a
while, everything will go bye-byes for good. I've always
wanted to cast my own small statues and trinkets (lost wax).
I think I may give that a whirl if being a ham no longer
appeals to me. Life is too short to be miserable. Sometimes
it IS best to walk away and start over again. At least that
way the ones left enjoying the hobby won't have to hear you
whine. (not directed at those whose posts I tagged along
with)
Ed Cregger, NM2K
nm...@arrl.net
cmcmanus
they weren't too great initially. Give Ranger communications the same chance
Alinco got. I personally am a fan of the Kenwood stuff, I am beginning to
wonder about them though. I agree that the newer Yaesu stuff is a little
flaky. I played with the FT-847 and was not impressed at all.
I personally use a Kenwood TS-50S, TM-733A, TS680S as well as RCI-2970DX and
various Alinco handhelds. Lets just not blame Ranger for the communication
worlds problems.
Another point though is that almost none of the Ham equipment is any harder
to modify for General coverage than the Ranger stuff. Think about this, If
you modify a general coverage H.F. ham radio, you can interfere with a whole
lot more than 10 or 12 meters and a bunch of hams. So who is the most
irresponsible, the manufacturers of 10 & 12 meter equipment that can only
expand to a small spectrum or the wonderful folks at Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu
and the rest that only require the snipping of a diode or some other simple
mod and you can screw up any frequency you want from about 1.6 to 30Mhz !!!
How about the vhf & uhf stuff that will cover any public service freq from
at least 138-174MHz and 400 to 470 or more? Which company's products have
the most potential to be abused? See what I have been trying to tell you.
It's all a bunch of hypocrisy! If you go by this thinking, I guess all their
equipment should be banned! Actually, if it weren't for lawsuits you would
still have to show an Amateur Radio license to purchase equipment. But now
any fool can walk into your local wonderful Radio Shack and buy a radio and
screw up the local 2 meter band if not others!
You Can't Blame The Manufacturer, Only The End User!!!!
Meade <mdaf...@the-rma.org> wrote in message
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Aaron H. Voobner
> we may fall prey to our own snares.
The only people that would suffer from having
"thinly-disguised-as-ham-radio illegal extended-coverage CB rigs"
pulled off the market or severly restricted are the freebanders and
outlaw CBers that they are designed for.
-Aaron-
>
> 1) Ham radios need not be "type accepted" because
> they are intended for operation by licensed Hams.
<rest snipped>
CARLWQAZX
aren't), it seems it'd be more
>> logical to sell a 160-10 meter HF rig -- or at least one that covers a few
of
the lower HF bands that'll be popular when the sunspot cycle wanes
WELL, besides Ranger's new 6M all-mode "version" of the 2950 (the 5054DX)
is being followed by a 20M and a 40M all mode versions in the fall.......These
radios, (All-mode!!) the 10/12, 6, 20, & 40M ALL cost less than an FM
dualband rig, & simply Can't be beat for the price, & blow away any other
"Under $330" (if there are any!) monoband & rigs! Believe me, If Yaesu, Icom,
Alinco or Kenwood came out with the EXACT SAME 25W ALL Mode rigs for 6M or 20M,
with built in SWR meters & continously variable output, scan ect & sold it for
$299-339, people would be jumping over each other having orgasms trying to
post what a great radio "their company" came out with.
*** ......I got it...Perhaps we should require all hams that buy "Ranger"
brand amateur gear to wear a big silver star on their chests,.......so that all
the "I only respect those with a $4K buck setups" can Easily identify them at
Hamfests & club meetings..................
Charlie McManus
http://www.eham.net/reviews/review/5011
This brings up the point that the noise blankers on these units are much
more effective than those on a lot of the other "ham" rigs. I own a TS-50S
Kenwood, the noise blanker isn't anywhere nearly as effective as the one on
my RCI-2970DX. I removed the Kenwood and use the 2970DX for my favorite
bands 10 and12 meters . It has been my experience that most "CB" type
equipment does have more effective noise blanking. I can point out crappy
features of the Kenwoods, Yaesu's etc just as easily as folks want to pick
apart the RCI stuff.
Randy
And I can't wait to try the roger beep feature on six! That should liven
things up!
Randy,
The CTCSS tone board will not be installed in the unit direct from the
factory.
Due to the many variations used in different parts of the US, we elected to
allow the user to choose the one that best suits his needs.
However, it can be installed by the dealer you purchase it from.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy [mailto:ran...@swbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:07 AM
To: sa...@rangerusa.com
Subject:
Is the new six meter rig going to come with ctcss installed? Without it, FM
is rather useless.
cmcmanus <cmcm...@charter.net> wrote in message
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W6DKN
"Jesse Stanley" <supe...@eurekanet.com> wrote in message
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> And once again we have someone that is so ignorant they post in all caps
>
Maybe not ignorant, but just really pissed (therefore shouting his opinion)
at all of these crap radios and pirate operators polluting the airwaves...
73 de W6DKN
W6DKN
> OK Bimbo, this is what RANGER sent back when I asked about the tone
board.
> And I can't wait to try the roger beep feature on six! That should liven
> things up!
>
>
> Randy,
> The CTCSS tone board will not be installed in the unit direct from the
> factory. Due to the many variations used in different parts of the US, we
elected to
> allow the user to choose the one that best suits his needs.
Translation: Go away idiot, the people who buy these rigs don't run them on
legal bands, and they could care less about CTCSS...
> However, it can be installed by the dealer you purchase it from.
Translation : Have them throw one in while they are doing the "tweak and
peak", 200% modulation mod, and wideband xmit mods...
> Jerry
Randy
do you suggest they may be modded for? As for as the modulation mod, AM is
not used on six, or at least it is not around here. If you read the thread
back a little, you would notice that it has drifted to discussion about the
RCI-5054DX.....Ranger's new six meter rig. If you go to the Ranger website,
you can see a picture of it. I still a bit perplexed about the roger beep
button on it though. CQ six meters.......CQ six
meters......N5ABC......BEEP......I don't think so.
I do agree that the 10 meter versions are *mostly* a trick to get modifiable
rigs past customs. HRO and AES selling them does not negate that fact,
although the newer DX models are purported to require a special board for
out of band operation.
W6DKN <w6...@qsl.net> wrote in message
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When will STUPID people learn...........ANY radio CAN be modified! PERIOD!
How hard can it be to install a new mixer crystal?
No news here!
JUST THE LAME FOLLOWING THE LYING.
JB
But Aaron, ANY RADIO can be modified! Hell I even
did it to my TS 830s (have never transmitted beyond a
dummy load though). So do we outlaw them all? Maybe
the FCC could charge them another fee to slip some of
them through!
So what I propose is:
1) These VEC's quit selling out ham tickets to people
they know nothing about, who often don't know or care
about the 100 years of collected knowlege in theory and
operation, then;
2) Restrict new and used sales to licensed amateurs.
But since none of this will work unless VEC's and
sellers are completely vigilant;
3) Quit whining to the FCC and the government to
fix our self-policed hobby before they decide we're
a nuisance and re-allocate everything including 27 Mhz
for 10 GigaWatt broadcasting or paging or whatever!
That's just the kind of thing they do to the other
services about every ten years!
:
: >
: > 1) Ham radios need not be "type accepted" because
: > they are intended for operation by licensed Hams.
:
: <rest snipped> snipped because you didn't read it?
W6DKN
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> <<< SNIP >>>
> *** ......I got it...Perhaps we should require all hams that buy
"Ranger"
> brand amateur gear to wear a big silver star on their chests,.......so
that all
> the "I only respect those with a $4K buck setups" can Easily identify
them at
> Hamfests & club meetings..................
Not necessary, they will be easy enough to spot by their REACT baseball
caps and their "Big 10-4 Good Buddy" tee shirts... :>)
73 de W6DKN
Aaron H. Voobner
> : -Aaron-
>
> But Aaron, ANY RADIO can be modified! Hell I even
> did it to my TS 830s (have never transmitted beyond a
> dummy load though).
I agree. Not only that, every ham transmitter ever made since the
1940's comes able to transmit above and below the ham bands. But
here's a question. How come there aren't crowded "freebands" chock
full of illegal pirate ops above and below 160, 80, 40, 20, and 15
meters? The equipment to enable it certainly exists. (No, Tim. Hearing
a few spanish speaking comms on 6.995 Mhz does not qualify. It doesn't
compare to what's going on around 10/11 meters)
> So do we outlaw them all? Maybe
> the FCC could charge them another fee to slip some of
> them through!
Do you see any difference between a phoney export mobile radio with 10
khz channel spacings, talkback, roger beep, 5 bands of 40 channels,
etc......and a TS-830-S? HINT: one is designed to appeal to the
illegal CB market.
Sorry to be so cynical, but everyone is dodging the obvious. The
illegal export radio market is a growing problem. Pretending that it
either doesn't exist or isn't a problem is deceitful.
-Aaron-
Scott Smith
> 1940's comes able to transmit above and below the ham bands. But
> here's a question. How come there aren't crowded "freebands" chock
> full of illegal pirate ops above and below 160, 80, 40, 20, and 15
> meters? The equipment to enable it certainly exists. (No, Tim. Hearing
> a few spanish speaking comms on 6.995 Mhz does not qualify. It doesn't
> compare to what's going on around 10/11 meters)
So Aaron, how do you know what's going on up on 10/11 meter if you are just
running a legal stock cb?
Just wondering...