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HTX-242 Mod is for REAL

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matt.c...@vc3.com

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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THIS MOD DOES WORK, SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT TO THE FACT THAT RADIO SHACK
RADIOS CAN BE MODIFIED, YOU CAN EMAIL ME if you have any questions @
mattx.c...@intel.com or matt.c...@vc3.com or fal...@my-dejanews.com
My call is KD4BKU.

Special NOTICE: This is for the HAMS who say radio shack radio's are "can't
be modified, because the FCC was real strict with Radio Shack", or buy a real
radio so that you can modify it. That is a bunch of bull.

Mod: Expands TX from 143-149mhz to 136-174mhz

Tools Required: Phillips Screwdriver, Mini screwdriver, Soldering Iron (Fine
tip) , NeedleNose Pliers

Process:

1. Remove Screws on bottom and top 2. Take the Bottom and Top off the Radio
3. Unplug Speaker from top of the radio and remove the dials from the face
plate 4. Unscrew the screws on the top and bottom of the face plate. 5.
CAREFULLY: remove the face plate from the radio 6. Remove the bolts and
washers (little rings) from the dials (countersunk into the dials). 7.
CAREFULLY: remove the LCD and plastic around it by pulling gentle and
wiggling it a little being careful not to bend the LCD pins. 8. Remove the
screws holding down the PCB from the cases 9. CAREFULLY: (Plug in type PCB)
remove the PCB from the radio and place the VFO tuning dial face down and to
your left. 10. There will be two blue jumper mounts on the PCB. Remove the 1
closest to the 2 black raised chips that are closest to the VFO tuning dial
(this jumper should be near the middle of the board) The other jumper makes
the transmitter do 143-144 (military) and it is near the side. 11. Put all
the parts back together and blamo you have 136-174mhz RX/TX

Notes: If you do it right you won't even loose your memories. This mod took me
about 30 minutes to complete and my radio is working fine. However
I'm sure this voids the warranty and the service contracts so you may not want
to do it for that reason alone. I checked the radio out (with a frequency
counter) on several frequencies and it is performing well. This mod requires a
little skill but most people that are hams could do this mod. This mod was
given to me by a fellow North Carolinian
KC4VYY , and I just put it in a simpler form. I wanted to thank him.


Matt Caldwell - Senior Security Analyst
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Email: matt.c...@vc3.com
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President of the HTCIA Columbia Chapter
High Technology Criminal Investigation Asssociation
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Phillip Jockell

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Nov 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/28/98
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Excuse me but did the President of the HTCIA Columbia Chapter
High Technology Criminal Investigation Asssociation just tell the
world how to make a radio cable of illegal operation (not typ-
accepted transmission)???


In article <7345k5$rdo$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, matt.c...@vc3.com
says...

fal...@my-dejanews.com

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Dec 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/4/98
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It's not illegal to modify, engineer, or publish modifications on radios.
It's illegal to transmit on frequencies you don't have a license. I don't
appreciate your irrational thought process on the flame.

George Andrews

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Dec 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/4/98
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The HTX 242 is not a scanner. It is a 2 meter amateur radio transceiver. It
is perfectly legal to extend the transmit and receive capability for
providing MARS/CAP frequency coverage for those who have a license to
transmit on such frequencies. I also modify many of my transceivers for the
purpose of receiving the weather frequencies. This is not prohibited by any
regulation.

George Andrews
mau...@erols.com
N1YAE FN31

Fishbags wrote in message <19981204191233...@ng-fq1.aol.com>...
>>FROM FALKEN1:


>It's not illegal to modify, engineer, or publish modifications on

>radios.............
> ACTUALLY, the FCC has already stated publicly in regard to
>"modifying" scanners that anyone doing modifications shall be conidered
>"manufacturing" radios without fcc type acceptance, punishable by law.
This
>caused most all large scanner mail order companies including Grove
enterprises
>to stop offering "cellular mod service" on scanners.
>
>

Fishbags

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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brian...@my-dejanews.com

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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In article <749vpl$4tv$1...@winter.news.rcn.net>,

"George Andrews" <mau...@erols.com> wrote:
> The HTX 242 is not a scanner. It is a 2 meter amateur radio transceiver. It
> is perfectly legal to extend the transmit and receive capability for
> providing MARS/CAP frequency coverage for those who have a license to
> transmit on such frequencies. I also modify many of my transceivers for the
> purpose of receiving the weather frequencies. This is not prohibited by any
> regulation.
>
> George Andrews
> mau...@erols.com
> N1YAE FN31

George, what is the receiver coverage of the HTX-242 -prior- to transmitter
modification? How is the reciever coverage different after modification?
What is the frequency of your local NOAA broadcast?

Thanks,
Brian/N0iMD

> Fishbags wrote in message <19981204191233...@ng-fq1.aol.com>...

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brian...@my-dejanews.com

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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In article <7490fg$avi$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,

fal...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> It's not illegal to modify, engineer, or publish modifications on radios.
> It's illegal to transmit on frequencies you don't have a license. I don't
> appreciate your irrational thought process on the flame.
>
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The current crop of radios already "listen" out of band. Modifying a radio
to -transmit- out of band, then not transmitting out of band is the
irrational thought process. Public service freqs require type accepted
radios. This means fire, aux police, emergency managers, blue dot, red dot,
yellow dot, etc. Modding a radio shack HTX-242 isn't going to cut it. Only
the military allows non-type accepted radios on their MARS/CAP frequencies,
and there aren't that many MARS/CAP operators out there. So why -do- you
modify your radios? Just to see if you can bring up the police repeater?
Maybe to mess with the cutie pie working the McDonalds drive thru intercom?
Help us understand this sickness.

Thanks.

Brian/N0iMD

anon.

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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Some of us use them for volunteer fire service work. While it may not be
exactly legal, it makes sense for those of us that are hams already. When a
department just doesn't have the money to buy enough handheld radios, each
member must look for his own or do without. I'll risk the minute chance of
FCC action against me.

The other option is we can buy some OVERPRICED motorola radios and let your
house burn because the trucks aren't maintained.

I agree with your intent, though. I don't offer to help anyone in any way
with radio mods if they don't have a legitimate purpose.

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George Andrews

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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Brian,
I reluctantly respond to your post as I am not certain of the intention of
your query.
I do not own an HTX 242. And the implication of your statement is something
I am aware of. It is likely that the HTX242 is of such vintage that the
receive does provide wide band coverage without any modification. Therefore,
unless one is a MARS/CAP operator, there is no real need to perform any
modification.
I enjoy recycling older radios.Many of the older radios come ready for
inband operation only. By in band operation I mean authorized amateur radio
frequencies. Many of the older equipment cannot be modified to receive or
transmit out of band. As an example, the HTX202. Others are capable of
"pushbutton modification" and the example here is the HTX212. Others, such
as older Alinco products, require a little more effort to modify. In most of
the radios I am aware of the receive modification is not one that is
separate from a transmit modification. Therefore, when one modifies his
Alinco DR112 to receive the NOAA weather frequencies, it is also modified to
transmit out of band. It is not possible to separate the functions. If it is
possible to perform a receive only mod, and I do not need MARS/CAP
capability, then that would be the extent of the mod. One may also have a
MARS/CAP license authorizing transmission on MARS/CAP frequencies and
therefore need access to that part of the spectrum. And to answer your
question the NOAA frequencies are 16X.XXX MHz.
It appears that many who are participants in this NG assume that anyone
who modifies a transceiver is up to something illegal or improper. This is
not always true! I am outdoors a lot on foot, bicycle or motor vehicle and
like to have access to NOAA weather capability in my ham gear. Because I
prefer to recycle older radios, this means modification. There are others
who may want to listen to some other part of the spectrum with good reason.
Not everyone who modifies a radio is a sick person as has been implied.Of
course there will always be a few who modify radios for illegal purposes,
and in fact commit criminal acts. I would ask readers to take an "abstract
look " at the dialog in this NG. Look at it from the point of view of a
federal regulator and consider the thought process that may take place.
Maybe some on this NG would be happy with even more Federal regulation of
our hobby and communications equipment in general. Maybe the basis of our
judicial system should be changed to guilty until proven innocent. Enough
said.
Happy Holidays and 73 to all!
brian...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<74abh4$gq2$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

brian...@my-dejanews.com

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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In article <74bkfd$5tr$1...@winter.news.rcn.net>,

George, very well said and thank you for the holiday wishes. Too often we
hand out information that can be illegally used. Currently, there is an
investigation of someone who had been harassing a police repeater. The
police are trying to answer how this individual came by an amateur
transceiver that was modified to operate out of band. Hopefully, the trail
doesn't lead back to the amateur radio service. I would prefer not to aid
these kind of people, and since I don't know who is on the other side of the
web, I always suggest that folks contact the manufacturer. I am expecially
suspicious of no-callsign posters. They can simply go buy a NOAA radio or
scanner. We have enuf restrictions on our radios without the FCC laying more
regulations on our stuff. Soon I can seen them requiring seals on the radio
cases, and potted/soldered cans over the IF. In other words, we hurt us.

73, Brian/N0iMD

Louis Bybee

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Dec 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/5/98
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For those interested more info regarding the HTX-202 can be found at the
following URL.

http://www.qrz.com/mods/htx202.txt

Louis

George Andrews wrote:

Snip Snip

Many of the older equipment cannot be modified to receive or
> transmit out of band. As an example, the HTX202.

Snip Snip

anon.

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Dec 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/7/98
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That's great...Problem is that the post was about the HTX-242, not the 202.


Louis Bybee wrote in message <3669F370...@datacomm.com>...

fal...@my-dejanews.com

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Dec 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/7/98
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The simple fact is, it can be modified, and thusly I SHARED the information.
I didn't market it or make any profit from the post. The reason, why
modifications are there in my (sick) mind, is because in the event of and
emergency, you might NEED the modifications to get help for yourself. Say for
instance, you where stuck on a mountain with no amateur repeater and you
NEEDED medical attention. I would certainly rather have the modification on
my radio that would save my life than be out there with a radio that I can't
use. I believe the FCC rules state that in a emergency, you may use whatever
frequencies you can to get help. Personally if my life was on the line, the
fcc rule book wouldn't matter a whole hell of a lot. I'm not promoting that
amateurs use these radios to transmit out of band during non-emergency
situations. I don't think anyone that doesn't have a license is going to get
these radios anyway due to radio shacks strict policy on non-ham use. And I
think ham's do a pretty good job in the first place of policing themselves.

brian...@my-dejanews.com

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Dec 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/8/98
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In article <74hbnu$49b$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,

Good reasons. I heard a ham repeatedly call for one of his buddies on the
NOAA weather frequency. He had his volume set low, and thought he was on the
repeater. Accidents happen.
Also, my RS 2M was stolen from my car. And it -was- modified for MARS use. I
would feel pretty bad if it turned up in a public service jamming incident.

Brian/N0iMD

Fishbags

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Dec 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/8/98
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>FROM BRIAN BURKE:

I don't think anyone that doesn't have a license is going to get
>> these radios anyway due to radio shacks strict policy on non-ham use. And I

ARE you kidding? I have met Dozens of non-ham people at hamfests
looking to sell their Radio Shack ham gear that they bought new a few "years
ago" for hunting, fishing, painting ect... There is no law against selling
ham equip to anyone and I guarentee you can walk into any radio shack and say
something like " I am looking for a gift for my "cousin or father-in-law" or
whatever & the non-ham part-time worker who makes commission will fall over
backwards to help you . And in most stores just walk in & say "how much is the
HTX-242? "OK give me one with the extended warranty" This is not to fault
Radio Shack as most ham stores would do the same, just pointing out from your
post since you thought you didn't think "anyone" would be able to get a RS
radio without a license, when fact I think most people would agree that Radio
Shack is the easiest place for a non ham to quickly get a piece of 2M ham gear.

lower...@gmail.com

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Mar 6, 2016, 5:47:53 AM3/6/16
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What I find absolutely amazing is that to a tee, each and every poster on this discussion topic assumes that their federal laws apply universally, i.e. planet-wide.
Where I live, Ottawa, I can walk in to any store which sells scanners and purchase a perfectly legal scanner with cell coverage. We have no laws prohibiting anyone from listening, anywhere, on the public airwaves.
Nor do we have laws prohibiting the sale of radios which have <u>the potential</u> to be modified.
Thank you

Allodoxaphobia

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Mar 6, 2016, 6:47:55 PM3/6/16
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 02:47:52 -0800 (PST), lower...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 8 December 1998 03:00:00 UTC-5, Fishbags wrote:
>> >FROM BRIAN BURKE:
>> I don't think anyone that doesn't have a license is going to get
>> >> these radios anyway due to radio shacks strict policy on non-ham use. And I
>>
>> ARE you kidding? I have met Dozens of non-ham people at hamfests
>> looking to sell their Radio Shack ham gear that they bought new a few "years
>> ago" for hunting, fishing, painting ect... There is no law against selling
>> ham equip to anyone and I guarentee you can walk into any radio shack and say
>> something like " I am looking for a gift for my "cousin or father-in-law" or
>> whatever & the non-ham part-time worker who makes commission will fall over
>> backwards to help you . And in most stores just walk in & say "how much is the
>> HTX-242? "OK give me one with the extended warranty" This is not to fault
>> Radio Shack as most ham stores would do the same, just pointing out from your
>> post since you thought you didn't think "anyone" would be able to get a RS
>> radio without a license, when fact I think most people would agree that Radio
>> Shack is the easiest place for a non ham to quickly get a piece of 2M ham gear.

>What I find absolutely amazing is that to a tee, each and every poster
>on this discussion topic assumes that their federal laws apply
>universally, i.e. planet-wide.

Oh, BOY! What is REALLY AMAZING is seeing someone
followup to a 17+ year old posting.

But, every time, it's a google grouper.

lower...@gmail.com

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Mar 9, 2016, 8:13:32 PM3/9/16
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On Sunday, 6 March 2016 18:47:55 UTC-5, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 02:47:52 -0800 (PST),
I found this in a search for "modify tx-242", so it's relevant. Have the laws changed in the past 17 years?

and, OH BOY, it got you involved.

and, OH BOY, what's a "google grouper"?

Is it really REALLY AMAZING? OH BOY

BTW, the mod worked a peach! Thanks for the extended RX TX

Jerry Stuckle

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Mar 9, 2016, 10:31:04 PM3/9/16
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ROFLMAO. Only a Google Grouper would think anyone cares about a 17+
year old post.

But then Google Groupers never were very smart.

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dean...@att.net

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Do you know if there is an SSB mod for the HTX-242?

Allodoxaphobia

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Jul 27, 2019, 1:49:11 PM7/27/19
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:45:38 -0700 (PDT), dean...@att.net wrote:
> On Friday, November 20, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, matt.c...@vc3.com wrote:
>> THIS MOD DOES WORK, SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT TO THE FACT THAT RADIO SHACK

<-- snip -->

> Do you know if there is an SSB mod for the HTX-242?

Do you know you're replying to A TWENTY ONE YEAR OLD POSTING?

sheeeesh!! google groopers!
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