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Clint Heffner

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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Hello all.
Whats up with the Titan DX? Decent, ok, or just a dummy load?
Gimme the low down.

Thanks.

Clint -- kf8mz

Dennis

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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Clint
Cant speak for the Gap Titan, But my GAP Eagle works just fine. I'ts
survived 5 NE Ohio winters and still radiates very well. Mounted it 7' above
ground so I can cut grass under it. I've heard lots of folks like the Titan

--
Dennis WA8SHC

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Clint Heffner

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Feb 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/8/00
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Yep. I'm torn now. Have gotten several 'go for it' replies, and several,
'waste of money even for a dummy load'. So I don't know what to do.
Sounds like it is dead on 80meters, so I then consider the eagle, but it
doesn't do 30meters. I like the idea of not having to put down radials
even if the counterpoise is almost 14' across. I plan to mount it just above
the roofline.

Clint

pho...@uhrad.com

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Feb 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/8/00
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In article <38A02367...@worldnet.att.net>,

clin...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> Yep. I'm torn now. Have gotten several 'go for it' replies, and
several,
> 'waste of money even for a dummy load'. So I don't know what to do.
> Sounds like it is dead on 80meters, so I then consider the eagle, but
it
> doesn't do 30meters. I like the idea of not having to put down radials
> even if the counterpoise is almost 14' across. I plan to mount it just
above
> the roofline.
>
Many people will put down vertical because they claim they don't work.
You know the old saying "vertical radiate equally bad in all directions"
Most verticals will do a good job. This is especially true if you have
limited backyard space. I have had experience with the Hy-Gain, MFJ and
Hustler verticals and they have all worked very similar.

They are quite good for DX because of the angle they radiate at and also
you don't have to chase a signal around with a rotor.

My best piece of advice is if you do decide on a vertical, make sure you
guy it, despite what the manufacturer says. They will bend, especially
if you have persistent winds from one direction. You will also want to
use locking nuts on the base of the mast where it joins the support
pole. I have had problems in the past with verticals being loosend up at
the base. Replacing the nuts with lock nuts stopped this problem.

Good luck to you,

Joe N8IDA
pho...@uhrad.com


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Marv Luse

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Feb 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/8/00
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Clint,

I suspect that most people that report poor results with verticals have a deficent
installation in one way or another-- improperly tuned, inadequate radial system or
counterpoise, bad location, etc. It is also probably true that all multi-band
verticals will perform poorly on 80 and even worse on 160 (assuming they cover
that band). It's just the nature of the game. When I looked into multiband
antennas most recently, I narrowed my choices to the Gap Titan and the Butternut
HF9V. I elected to go with the Butternut, and although have had a few minor
problems, for the most part I have been very satisfied. I suspect the Titan will
work fine for you.

73,

Marv
AB0IO

Clint Heffner wrote:

> Yep. I'm torn now. Have gotten several 'go for it' replies, and several,
> 'waste of money even for a dummy load'. So I don't know what to do.
> Sounds like it is dead on 80meters, so I then consider the eagle, but it
> doesn't do 30meters. I like the idea of not having to put down radials
> even if the counterpoise is almost 14' across. I plan to mount it just above
> the roofline.
>

Scott & Emily Wright

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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I obtained a used Gap Titan several months ago and I am quite pleased with
it's performance. It has broadbanded response, does not need a large ground
plane to work against, and is not too ugly! Having worked with other
verticals in the past (the 1/4 wave trap type), I can say that the Titan
requires much less effort to get working well. Of course the Titan is more
expensive than those types.

Mike Mellinger

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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Real easy to get Titan to work well if you know a few of the secrets. Try
http://www.mellinger.com/wa0sxv/titandx.html

Antenna pretty near useless on 80m. OK on 10m. Pretty good everywhere
else.

If you can put in 16 radials of 14 feet or more, I think that the Butternet
or a HyGain DX88 would be a far better choice for ground mounting. They
actually radiate on 80m.

73,
Mike WA0SXV

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Tom W8JI

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Feb 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/11/00
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:26:56 -0600, "Mike Mellinger"
<mi...@mellinger.com> wrote:

>Real easy to get Titan to work well if you know a few of the secrets. Try
>http://www.mellinger.com/wa0sxv/titandx.html
>
>Antenna pretty near useless on 80m. OK on 10m. Pretty good everywhere
>else.
>

That's true from my experience.

Most other antennas will blow a GAP away on the lower bands.

They do radiate, but when I A B tested a GAP against a Butternut with
a good ground system, the butternut was 10-15 dB better time and time
again.

Any vertical antenna without a good radial system will be a poor
performer when mounted within 1/4 wl of ground, no matter what
advertising hyberbole says.

73 Tom

steve kc8gca

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Feb 11, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/11/00
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I have had a Gap antenna for about 2 yrs. and enjoy it and have made
contacts on all H.F. bands ( except 160 m ) and with good signal
reports from 5x9 to 5x5 and a few contacts that I gave up on not getting
through the pile ups. hard to compete with beams , But then again you have
an all band (H.F. except 160m ) antenna at one low cost and maintenance
site, I have a second antenna I use ( a tri band 4 element quad ) on 10m 12
m and 15m for the get through contacts, I have the room for this. you can
use a tuner on the gap for 80m or get the right capacitor cap for the area
you want to use, ( cw or ssb )
my opion is like every thing only valuable to me and those who want to hear
it. thanks and good luck 73's steve kc8gca
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pmarkham

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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clin...@worldnet.att.net (Clint Heffner) wrote in
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You can buy or build better performing antennas for less money.

See: http://www.qsl.net/aa3rl/titan.html

Do a power search for "GAP Titan", from mid 1995 to date at:

http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml

Everything from detailed A/B comparisons to baseless testimonials.

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