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Szczepan Bialek
Apr 12, 2012, 12:28:43 PM4/12/12
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Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png
"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla
So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
But where the electrons come from?
From: "the earth"?
S*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png
"In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called X-rays
" We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by the
high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
collide with the glass envelope. " From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla
So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
But where the electrons come from?
From: "the earth"?
S*
Helmut Wabnig
Apr 12, 2012, 12:57:12 PM4/12/12
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ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 12, 2012, 12:59:59 PM4/12/12
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That is total nonsense.
> But where the electrons come from?
You are confusing the specific operation of a Tesla coil with radio in
general.
You are a babbling idiot.
Wayne
Apr 12, 2012, 1:02:40 PM4/12/12
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"Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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<snip>
>So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
>But where the electrons come from?
>From: "the earth"?
>S*
So I suppose we should develop some antennas that have a current maximum at
>But where the electrons come from?
>From: "the earth"?
>S*
the end of the antenna?
Padraigh ProAmerica
Apr 12, 2012, 2:00:12 PM4/12/12
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I wworked for 6 momths for a company that manufactured thin-film optical
filters.
The glass pieces were placed ina vacuum chamber. along with the
crucible(s) with the coating material(s).
Once the chamber was evacuated an electron beam was used to heat the
coating materials, which usually sublimed and were directed magneticaly
to the glass.
I still have one of the electron guns (filament burned out). It looks
like an oversized tube with an open ended glass tube on one side where
the beam was directed out.
--
"Peace is that brief moment is history when everybody stands around
reloading,"--
Rev. Skip Heitzig
filters.
The glass pieces were placed ina vacuum chamber. along with the
crucible(s) with the coating material(s).
Once the chamber was evacuated an electron beam was used to heat the
coating materials, which usually sublimed and were directed magneticaly
to the glass.
I still have one of the electron guns (filament burned out). It looks
like an oversized tube with an open ended glass tube on one side where
the beam was directed out.
--
"Peace is that brief moment is history when everybody stands around
reloading,"--
Rev. Skip Heitzig
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 13, 2012, 3:23:07 AM4/13/12
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electron.
Antennas liberate the EM waves and the electrons as a by product.
Do you support this?
S*
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 13, 2012, 3:31:33 AM4/13/12
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More electrons is liberated more electrons is flowing in the antenna.
EM travel in space. Electrons fall down on the earth.
For this reason the earth is necessary.
Do you agree?
S*
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Wayne
Apr 13, 2012, 12:09:04 PM4/13/12
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>
>
> "Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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>
>>Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png
> <snip>
>>So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
>>But where the electrons come from?
>>From: "the earth"?
>>S*
>
> So I suppose we should develop some antennas that have a current maximum
> at the end of the antenna?
# More electrons is liberated more electrons is flowing in the antenna.
#
# EM travel in space. Electrons fall down on the earth.
# For this reason the earth is necessary.
# Do you agree?
# S*
No. There is a current minimum at the end of an antenna because there is no
place for electrons to flow.
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 13, 2012, 12:40:35 PM4/13/12
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Uzytkownik "Helmut Wabnig" <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> napisal w wiadomosci
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"Introduction.-The main features of t h e phenomenon of the
extraction
of ele&ons from cold metals b y intense electric fields are well
known,"
From:
http://www-project.slac.stanford.edu/lc/wkshp/RFBreakdwn/references/fowler.pdf
Each metal with the excess of electrons liberate them.
A transmitter antena liberates radio waves, heat and electrons.
Waves travel in space, heat is dissipated and electrons are taken from the
earth.
S*
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 13, 2012, 2:38:52 PM4/13/12
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Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
> All who know what the "field electron emission" is.
>
> "Introduction.-The main features of t h e phenomenon of the
> extraction
> of ele&ons from cold metals b y intense electric fields are well
> known,"
> From:
> http://www-project.slac.stanford.edu/lc/wkshp/RFBreakdwn/references/fowler.pdf
>
> Each metal with the excess of electrons liberate them.
> A transmitter antena liberates radio waves, heat and electrons.
>
> Waves travel in space, heat is dissipated and electrons are taken from the
> earth.
> S*
This is a bunch of babbling, rambling, meaningless, gibberish.
> All who know what the "field electron emission" is.
>
> "Introduction.-The main features of t h e phenomenon of the
> extraction
> of ele&ons from cold metals b y intense electric fields are well
> known,"
> From:
> http://www-project.slac.stanford.edu/lc/wkshp/RFBreakdwn/references/fowler.pdf
>
> Each metal with the excess of electrons liberate them.
> A transmitter antena liberates radio waves, heat and electrons.
>
> Waves travel in space, heat is dissipated and electrons are taken from the
> earth.
> S*
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 13, 2012, 2:44:18 PM4/13/12
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Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
antennas do not liberate or emit any electrons under normal conditions,
either today or any time in history.
If an antenna is emitting electrons, something is arcing, which is NOT
a normal or necessary for radio transmission.
> Antennas liberate the EM waves and the electrons as a by product.
No, they do not under normal conditions, now or ever.
> Do you support this?
Of course not as it is babbling gibberish.
Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
produced RF energy as a by product.
Producing RF energy through arcs and sparks is a technology that was
abandoned about 100 years ago.
>
> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
> news:f9ej59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png
>>>
>>> "In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
>>> X-rays
>>> " We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
>>> single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
>>> thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
>>> the
>>> high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
>>> the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
>>> collide with the glass envelope. " From:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla
>>>
>>> So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
>>
>> No, they are not in general.
>>
>> That is total nonsense.
>>
>>> But where the electrons come from?
>>
>> They don't come from anywhere because it is not happening.
>>
>> You are confusing the specific operation of a Tesla coil with radio in
>> general.
>
> So "we" know from you that todays antennas do not liberate even one
> electron.
We, being anyone with any knowledge of electromagnetics, know that
>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png
>>>
>>> "In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
>>> X-rays
>>> " We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
>>> single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
>>> thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
>>> the
>>> high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks from
>>> the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
>>> collide with the glass envelope. " From:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla
>>>
>>> So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
>>
>> No, they are not in general.
>>
>> That is total nonsense.
>>
>>> But where the electrons come from?
>>
>> They don't come from anywhere because it is not happening.
>>
>> You are confusing the specific operation of a Tesla coil with radio in
>> general.
>
> So "we" know from you that todays antennas do not liberate even one
> electron.
antennas do not liberate or emit any electrons under normal conditions,
either today or any time in history.
If an antenna is emitting electrons, something is arcing, which is NOT
a normal or necessary for radio transmission.
> Antennas liberate the EM waves and the electrons as a by product.
> Do you support this?
Of course not as it is babbling gibberish.
Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
produced RF energy as a by product.
Producing RF energy through arcs and sparks is a technology that was
abandoned about 100 years ago.
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 13, 2012, 2:46:14 PM4/13/12
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Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
> Antennas liberated the EM waves and the electrons.
> More electrons is liberated more electrons is flowing in the antenna.
>
> EM travel in space. Electrons fall down on the earth.
> For this reason the earth is necessary.
> Do you agree?
> S*
All of this is babbling, incorrect, nonsense than just shows once again
> Antennas liberated the EM waves and the electrons.
> More electrons is liberated more electrons is flowing in the antenna.
>
> EM travel in space. Electrons fall down on the earth.
> For this reason the earth is necessary.
> Do you agree?
> S*
you have no clue how anything electric or electromagnetic works.
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 14, 2012, 3:56:50 AM4/14/12
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> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>>> Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png
>>>>
>>>> "In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
>>>> X-rays
>>>> " We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
>>>> single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
>>>> thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
>>>> the
>>>> high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks
>>>> from
>>>> the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
>>>> collide with the glass envelope. " From:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla
>>>>
>>>> So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
>>>
>
>>
>>>> Here is the Tesla's electron gun:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sp_xmtr.png
>>>>
>>>> "In April 1887, Tesla began investigating what would later be called
>>>> X-rays
>>>> " We now know that this device operated by emitting electrons from the
>>>> single electrode through a combination of field electron emission and
>>>> thermionic emission. Once liberated, electrons are strongly repelled by
>>>> the
>>>> high electric field near the electrode during negative voltage peaks
>>>> from
>>>> the oscillating HV output of the Tesla Coil, generating X rays as they
>>>> collide with the glass envelope. " From:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nikola_Tesla
>>>>
>>>> So we know that the electrons are liberated from the end of antenna.
>>>
>
> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
> produced RF energy as a by product.
What was the main product?
> produced RF energy as a by product.
S*
>
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 14, 2012, 1:51:28 PM4/14/12
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>> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
>> produced RF energy as a by product.
>
> What was the main product?
High voltages, idiot.
>> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
>> produced RF energy as a by product.
>
> What was the main product?
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 15, 2012, 4:43:50 AM4/15/12
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What the sparks are made of?
S*
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Apr 15, 2012, 5:27:13 AM4/15/12
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Ionized air is rather lazy. What is the other constituent of sparks?
What "made" the ionization?
S*
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Apr 15, 2012, 12:06:10 PM4/15/12
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>
> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
> news:02qo59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>>> news:2p8m59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>>
>>>> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
>>>> produced RF energy as a by product.
>>>
>>> What was the main product?
>>
>> High voltages, idiot.
>
> Voltage is not product.
Yes, it is. The purpose of a Tesla coil is to generate high voltages.
>
> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
> news:02qo59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>>> news:2p8m59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>>
>>>> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
>>>> produced RF energy as a by product.
>>>
>>> What was the main product?
>>
>> High voltages, idiot.
>
> Voltage is not product.
> The splendid, long sparks are.
high voltage.
The RF produced is a by product of the sparks.
> What the sparks are made of?
> S*
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 15, 2012, 12:10:13 PM4/15/12
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Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <je...@jsystems.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> news:jme3s8$4e1$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 15/04/2012 09:43, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
>>> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>
> "Jeff" <je...@jsystems.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> news:jme3s8$4e1$2...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 15/04/2012 09:43, Szczepan Bialek wrote:
>>> news:02qo59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>>>> Szczepan Bialek<sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>>>>> news:2p8m59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>>>>
>>>>>> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
>>>>>> produced RF energy as a by product.
>>>>>
>>>>> What was the main product?
>>>>
>>>> High voltages, idiot.
>>>
>>> Voltage is not product. The splendid, long sparks are.
>>> What the sparks are made of?
>>> S*
>>>
>> Ionized air made by the high voltages that Tesla's equipment produced.
>
> Ionized air is rather lazy. What is the other constituent of sparks?
> What "made" the ionization?
> S*
The high voltages produced by the Tesla coil.
>>>> Szczepan Bialek<sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>>>>> news:2p8m59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>>>>
>>>>>> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
>>>>>> produced RF energy as a by product.
>>>>>
>>>>> What was the main product?
>>>>
>>>> High voltages, idiot.
>>>
>>> Voltage is not product. The splendid, long sparks are.
>>> What the sparks are made of?
>>> S*
>>>
>> Ionized air made by the high voltages that Tesla's equipment produced.
>
> Ionized air is rather lazy. What is the other constituent of sparks?
> What "made" the ionization?
> S*
Repeat this until it sinks into your thick skull: Tesla coils produce high
voltages.
Repeat this until it sinks into your thick skull: High voltages produce arcs.
Repeat this until it sinks into your thick skull: Arcs produce RF.
Repeat this until it sinks into your thick skull: Using arcs to produce RF
is an obsolete techonology and illegal in most of the world.
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 15, 2012, 12:37:17 PM4/15/12
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> Electrons liberated by the HIGH VOLTAGE, idiot.
Is it the field electron emission?
S*
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 15, 2012, 1:24:33 PM4/15/12
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>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> What the sparks are made of?
>>
>> Electrons liberated by the HIGH VOLTAGE, idiot.
>
> Is it the field electron emission?
> S*
No.
>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> What the sparks are made of?
>>
>> Electrons liberated by the HIGH VOLTAGE, idiot.
>
> Is it the field electron emission?
> S*
Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_electron_emission
Read all of it.
Then read it again until you understand it.
After you have mastered that, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_discharge
Read all of it.
Then read it again until you understand it.
After you have mastered that, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_arc
Read all of it.
Then read it again until you understand it.
If you can get this far, your question has been answered fully.
Wayne
Apr 15, 2012, 2:21:10 PM4/15/12
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> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>> <ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisa? w wiadomo?ci
>> news:2p8m59-...@mail.specsol.com...
>
>>> Tesla was playing with Tesla coils and extremely high voltages which
>>> produced RF energy as a by product.
>>
>> What was the main product?
>
> High voltages, idiot.
# What the sparks are made of?
# S*
<PLONK> ..._._
Ian
Apr 15, 2012, 2:38:33 PM4/15/12
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> "Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
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> news:4f8a8a49$0$1307$6578...@news.neostrada.pl...
> > # Voltage is not product. The splendid, long sparks are.
> # What the sparks are made of?
> # S*
Good evening Szczepan.
> # What the sparks are made of?
> # S*
Your question "What the sparks are made of?" was answered in the posting
from jimp @ specsol.spam.sux.com dated 15 April 2012 17:06.
Are you having difficulty reading or understanding the emails send by others
and intended to enlighten and inform you and answer your search for
understanding?
Have you looked at any of the books I mentioned in an earlier posting,
please?
Kindest regards, Ian.
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 16, 2012, 3:26:57 AM4/16/12
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>> "Szczepan Bialek" wrote in message
>> news:4f8a8a49$0$1307$6578...@news.neostrada.pl...
>> > # Voltage is not product. The splendid, long sparks are.
>> # What the sparks are made of?
>> # S*
>
> Good evening Szczepan.
>
> Your question "What the sparks are made of?" was answered in the posting
> from jimp @ specsol.spam.sux.com dated 15 April 2012 17:06.
>
> Are you having difficulty reading or understanding the emails send by
> others and intended to enlighten and inform you and answer your search for
> understanding?
In all answers no clear information if your "black box" have the
>> news:4f8a8a49$0$1307$6578...@news.neostrada.pl...
>> > # Voltage is not product. The splendid, long sparks are.
>> # What the sparks are made of?
>> # S*
>
> Good evening Szczepan.
>
> Your question "What the sparks are made of?" was answered in the posting
> from jimp @ specsol.spam.sux.com dated 15 April 2012 17:06.
>
> Are you having difficulty reading or understanding the emails send by
> others and intended to enlighten and inform you and answer your search for
> understanding?
earth/chassis/counterpoise.
>
> Have you looked at any of the books I mentioned in an earlier posting,
> please?
I know what is in the books. I do not know if your ""black box" have the
> Have you looked at any of the books I mentioned in an earlier posting,
> please?
earth/chassis/counterpoise."
Best Regards,
S*
Ian
Apr 16, 2012, 3:56:48 AM4/16/12
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>
> In all answers no clear information if your "black box" have the
> earth/chassis/counterpoise.
>>
>> Have you looked at any of the books I mentioned in an earlier posting,
>> please?
>
> I know what is in the books. I do not know if your ""black box" have the
> earth/chassis/counterpoise."
> Best Regards,
> S*
Good morning Szczepan.
> In all answers no clear information if your "black box" have the
> earth/chassis/counterpoise.
>>
>> Have you looked at any of the books I mentioned in an earlier posting,
>> please?
>
> I know what is in the books. I do not know if your ""black box" have the
> earth/chassis/counterpoise."
> Best Regards,
> S*
I think we have a language problem here. The answers to your questions ARE
in the books that I mentioned. If these books are not available in your
native language then I can understand your difficulties.
I recommended the amateur radio books because they cater for people who have
no prior knowledge of radio and aerials.I still haven't seen an answer from
you to my question "Are you discussing resonant or non-resonant aerials,
please?".
Kindest regards, Ian.
tom
Apr 16, 2012, 11:28:43 PM4/16/12
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On 4/16/2012 2:56 AM, Ian wrote:
>
> Good morning Szczepan.
>
> I think we have a language problem here. The answers to your questions ARE
> in the books that I mentioned. If these books are not available in your
> native language then I can understand your difficulties.
>
> I recommended the amateur radio books because they cater for people who have
> no prior knowledge of radio and aerials.I still haven't seen an answer from
> you to my question "Are you discussing resonant or non-resonant aerials,
> please?".
>
> Kindest regards, Ian.
>
>
Ian
>
> Good morning Szczepan.
>
> I think we have a language problem here. The answers to your questions ARE
> in the books that I mentioned. If these books are not available in your
> native language then I can understand your difficulties.
>
> I recommended the amateur radio books because they cater for people who have
> no prior knowledge of radio and aerials.I still haven't seen an answer from
> you to my question "Are you discussing resonant or non-resonant aerials,
> please?".
>
> Kindest regards, Ian.
>
>
He is a troll. He has been doing this for almost a year now.
He does not misunderstand English.
tom
K0TAR
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 16, 2012, 11:41:49 PM4/16/12
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tom <news...@taring.org> wrote:
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> He is a troll. He has been doing this for almost a year now.
He has been doing it for many years now.
> He does not misunderstand English.
With all his years of posting, one would have expected his English to
have improved over the years; it hasn't.
That alone should be an indicator.
<snip>
> He is a troll. He has been doing this for almost a year now.
> He does not misunderstand English.
have improved over the years; it hasn't.
That alone should be an indicator.
Ian Jackson
Apr 17, 2012, 3:30:27 AM4/17/12
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In message <4f8ce36a$0$96700$8046...@newsreader.iphouse.net>, tom
<news...@taring.org> writes
I think he's the same guy who, for several years, has been posting
similar nonsense in various newsgroups. The script is usually similar,
typically "I have only a very basic knowledge of physics, but I know
that Einstein was completely wrong about his theory of relativity".
--
Ian
<news...@taring.org> writes
similar nonsense in various newsgroups. The script is usually similar,
typically "I have only a very basic knowledge of physics, but I know
that Einstein was completely wrong about his theory of relativity".
--
Ian
Rob
Apr 17, 2012, 3:37:44 AM4/17/12
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was found in experiments, so everything we learned after that must
be completely wrong"...
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 17, 2012, 4:28:38 AM4/17/12
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Uzytkownik "Rob" <nom...@example.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:slrnjoq7e8...@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>>
> Well, this one usually goed more like "I read that in 1910 this result
> was found in experiments, so everything we learned after that must
> be completely wrong"...
I read that now:
> Well, this one usually goed more like "I read that in 1910 this result
> was found in experiments, so everything we learned after that must
> be completely wrong"...
""A further feature of the structure of negative coronas is that as the
electrons drift outwards, they encounter neutral molecules and,
withelectronegative molecules (such as oxygen and water vapor), combine to
produce negative ions. These negative ions are then attracted to the
positive uncurved electrode, completing the 'circuit'.". From: Negative
coronas. Mechanism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_discharge#Negative_coronas
""The difference, then, between positive and negative coronas, in the matter
of the generation of secondary electron avalanches, is that in a positive
corona they are generated by the gas surrounding the plasma region, the new
secondary electrons travelling inward, whereas in a negative corona they are
generated by the curved electrode itself, the new secondary electrons
travelling outward."
"in a negative corona the electrons are generated by the curved electrode
itself".
Is the field electron emission from the tip top of antenna or not?
Where you learned that no field electron emission?
S*
Rob
Apr 17, 2012, 4:44:07 AM4/17/12
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We don't operate our antennas in the voltage range where that becomes
a problem, like Tesla did.
So it does not apply to amateur radio antennas.
a problem, like Tesla did.
So it does not apply to amateur radio antennas.
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Ian Jackson
Apr 17, 2012, 6:14:58 AM4/17/12
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In message <jmjbl2$i8o$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Jeff <je...@jsystems.com>
writes
>I am sure that everyone realises that he is a Troll, but it is fun
>watching the ever increasing ludicrousness of his arguments and him not
>realising that the Troll is himself being Trolled.
>
His play-stupidity is indeed extremely inventive. There doesn't seem to
be anything that he can't mis-understand so well.
--
Ian
writes
>watching the ever increasing ludicrousness of his arguments and him not
>realising that the Troll is himself being Trolled.
>
His play-stupidity is indeed extremely inventive. There doesn't seem to
be anything that he can't mis-understand so well.
--
Ian
Ian
Apr 17, 2012, 10:14:57 AM4/17/12
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"Jeff" <je...@jsystems.com> wrote in message
news:jmjbl2$i8o$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
Hello Jeff.
I agree. It's nice to see there are some patient and helpful people on this
NG who have tried to help S. I'm speculating on what sort of person he
really is .. then I smile to myself when I see his circular arguments. I
wonder what would happen if we posted items about him but didn't reply to
his postings (similar to the "we're talking about you, not to you"
behaviour".
I'll tell you one thing - the discussion about antennas has been very
interesting so it's made the NG live up to its name.
73, Ian.
news:jmjbl2$i8o$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>
> I am sure that everyone realises that he is a Troll, but it is fun
> watching the ever increasing ludicrousness of his arguments and him not
> realising that the Troll is himself being Trolled.
>
> Jeff
>
> I am sure that everyone realises that he is a Troll, but it is fun
> watching the ever increasing ludicrousness of his arguments and him not
> realising that the Troll is himself being Trolled.
>
Hello Jeff.
I agree. It's nice to see there are some patient and helpful people on this
NG who have tried to help S. I'm speculating on what sort of person he
really is .. then I smile to myself when I see his circular arguments. I
wonder what would happen if we posted items about him but didn't reply to
his postings (similar to the "we're talking about you, not to you"
behaviour".
I'll tell you one thing - the discussion about antennas has been very
interesting so it's made the NG live up to its name.
73, Ian.
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 17, 2012, 11:34:39 AM4/17/12
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news:slrnjoqban...@xs8.xs4all.nl...
S*
> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>> Where you learned that no field electron emission?
>> S*
>
> We don't operate our antennas in the voltage range where that becomes
> a problem, like Tesla did.
The field electrons emission take place at each voltage.
>> Where you learned that no field electron emission?
>> S*
>
> We don't operate our antennas in the voltage range where that becomes
> a problem, like Tesla did.
S*
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 17, 2012, 1:01:48 PM4/17/12
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Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> Uzytkownik "Rob" <nom...@example.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> news:slrnjoq7e8...@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>>>
>> Well, this one usually goed more like "I read that in 1910 this result
>> was found in experiments, so everything we learned after that must
>> be completely wrong"...
>
> I read that now:
And obviously did not understand it.
>
> Uzytkownik "Rob" <nom...@example.com> napisal w wiadomosci
> news:slrnjoq7e8...@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>>>
>> Well, this one usually goed more like "I read that in 1910 this result
>> was found in experiments, so everything we learned after that must
>> be completely wrong"...
>
> I read that now:
<snip quote>
> Is the field electron emission from the tip top of antenna or not?
> Where you learned that no field electron emission?
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 17, 2012, 1:05:18 PM4/17/12
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You did not read the material.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_electron_emission
"Field emission in pure metals occurs in high electric fields: the gradients
are typically higher than 1 gigavolt per metre and strongly dependent upon
the work function."
Do you have any clue what it takes to get a gradient of 1 gigavolt per metre?
Szczepan Bialek
Apr 18, 2012, 3:33:27 AM4/18/12
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<ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com> napisał w wiadomości
news:efk069-...@mail.specsol.com...
> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>> "Rob" <nom...@example.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>> news:slrnjoqban...@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>> Where you learned that no field electron emission?
>>>> S*
>>>
>>> We don't operate our antennas in the voltage range where that becomes
>>> a problem, like Tesla did.
>>
>> The field electrons emission take place at each voltage.
>
> No.
>
> You did not read the material.
>
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_electron_emission
>
> "Field emission in pure metals occurs in high electric fields: the
> gradients
> are typically higher than 1 gigavolt per metre and strongly dependent upon
> the work function."
It contradicts to the known phenomenon that each charged body lost its
>>
>> "Rob" <nom...@example.com> napisal w wiadomosci
>> news:slrnjoqban...@xs8.xs4all.nl...
>>> Szczepan Bialek <sz.b...@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>> Where you learned that no field electron emission?
>>>> S*
>>>
>>> We don't operate our antennas in the voltage range where that becomes
>>> a problem, like Tesla did.
>>
>> The field electrons emission take place at each voltage.
>
> No.
>
> You did not read the material.
>
> From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_electron_emission
>
> "Field emission in pure metals occurs in high electric fields: the
> gradients
> are typically higher than 1 gigavolt per metre and strongly dependent upon
> the work function."
charge in a short time. AT EACH VOLTAGE.
S*
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Apr 18, 2012, 1:31:26 PM4/18/12
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You are a babbling idiot.
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