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Fractenna

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Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
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QST--

Good News!

I have been given permission to post more ham info on the ham page of:

http://www.fractenna.com

In fact, I have ben invited by Fractal Antenna Systems, Inc to keep ALL my ham
related articles on that page. This is something I have been seeking for some
time, as I feel the print media is no longer viable for publishing ham radio
articles. Fortunately the server/host costs have come down enough to make this
possible.

Plans are to put my Comm. Quarterly articles up as pdf's (Fractal Antenna
Systems, Inc is the copyright holder of these) and new ones as separate web
pages. I haven't decided about the Dx Magazine and 73 articles yet, there are
some possible copyright issues on these.

There will be 3 new articles placed up later in the summer, with about 10
others going into the winter.

I still get about 95 -100 e-mails a month asking for more fractal antenna
designs and this should be the best way to handle it.

As always, I can be reached for questions on fractal antennas at the FRACTAL
ANTENNA REFLECTOR, which is joined by doing:

fractalanten...@egroups.com

I remind readers that I do not address fractal antenna questions on this NG,
due the to problem of concerted, personal attacks. If, and as, this changes, I
will reconsider.

Best 73 to All,
Chip N1IR

Peter O. Brackett

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Group:

[snip]


>
> I remind readers that I do not address fractal antenna questions on this
NG,
> due the to problem of concerted, personal attacks. If, and as, this
changes, I
> will reconsider.
>
> Best 73 to All,
> Chip N1IR

[snip]

Hello!!

Readers???

How very insulting!

This is far worse than a personal attack, this is an attack by and
apparently superior feeling being on a whole group of inferiors!!

What ever happened to "participants" my friends?

Usenet News Groups are a participatory and interactive media, they are not
simply a private vanity press!

The commentary and "letters to the editor" on here are not moderated,
censored, or by anyone. Everyone who reads is free to criticize, ask
questions, and participate actively.

As our great President Harry Truman once said, "If you can't stand the heat,
get the heck out of the kitchen!"

Peter K1PO


Bill Aycock

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Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
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hooray

Fractenna wrote:
>
> QST--
>
> Good News!
>
> I have been given permission to post more ham info on the ham page of:
>
> http://www.fractenna.com
>
> In fact, I have ben invited by Fractal Antenna Systems, Inc to keep ALL my ham
> related articles on that page. This is something I have been seeking for some
> time, as I feel the print media is no longer viable for publishing ham radio
> articles. Fortunately the server/host costs have come down enough to make this
> possible.
>
> Plans are to put my Comm. Quarterly articles up as pdf's (Fractal Antenna
> Systems, Inc is the copyright holder of these) and new ones as separate web
> pages. I haven't decided about the Dx Magazine and 73 articles yet, there are
> some possible copyright issues on these.
>
> There will be 3 new articles placed up later in the summer, with about 10
> others going into the winter.
>
> I still get about 95 -100 e-mails a month asking for more fractal antenna
> designs and this should be the best way to handle it.
>
> As always, I can be reached for questions on fractal antennas at the FRACTAL
> ANTENNA REFLECTOR, which is joined by doing:
>
> fractalanten...@egroups.com
>

Fractenna

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Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
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> hooray

:-)!

73
Chip N1IR

Reg Edwards

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Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
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Fractenna wrote

> I have been given permission to post more ham info on the ham page
of:
> - - - - - etc.
===============================
Big deal. Who gave you permission - yourself ?


Fractenna

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Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
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No; obviously not.

NC

Tom W8JI

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On 27 Jun 2000 14:41:29 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>QST--
>
>Good News!


>
>I have been given permission to post more ham info on the ham page of:
>

> http://www.fractenna.com

You gave yourself permission?

>In fact, I have ben invited by Fractal Antenna Systems, Inc to keep ALL my ham
>related articles on that page. This is something I have been seeking for some
>time, as I feel the print media is no longer viable for publishing ham radio
>articles. Fortunately the server/host costs have come down enough to make this
>possible.

You invited yourself?

>
>Plans are to put my Comm. Quarterly articles up as pdf's

Is a pdf anything like a phd?

73 Tom

Tom W8JI

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On 27 Jun 2000 19:09:20 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>>Fractenna wrote


>>> I have been given permission to post more ham info on the ham page
>>of:

>>> - - - - - etc.
>>===============================
>>Big deal. Who gave you permission - yourself ?
>>
>>
>
>No; obviously not.
>
>NC

See there Reg!

NC gave Chip permission. I wondered if it was Phil, Nathan Cohen pHd,
Cohendog, Jaypole or who at his house that gave him permission!

73 Tom

Fractenna

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Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
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Hey there Tom---

For the record do you still think Chip is schizophrenic and mentally ill and a
pederast/child molester and gay and isn't loved by his mother and a gold
digger and a fraud and a liar and a one man company in his house? You also told
him that with your alias Tanyaa that you want to have sex with him. These are
just some of the things you have said just as you say these things above.

For the record, you understand. Tell us for the public record. Surely if you
think Chip can't and won't persecute you should feel that it's ok to fill us in
in mighty detail doncha think? I mean you told us "because it's fun" and "I
Hate Nate".
Can you also tell us your future plans in this hate campaign?

73 Phil
de N1ZKT

RanHefner

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frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
>think Chip can't and won't persecute you should feel that it's

^^^^^^^^^

Is this a slip? Man you guys or guy or whatever you are are
weird.

Randy Hefner, Ph.Art

Randy A. Hefner
http://talk.to/frs
http://go.to/qx3
------------------
Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
Up to 100 minutes free!
http://www.keen.com


K1BQT

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Jun 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/27/00
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QST (or CQ) indeed! Mark Wilson might be a little amazed that the League's
massive world-wide hard-copy distribution network has been eclipsed by the frac
site. Could it be possible that some people can't publish in major ham
journals because they've somehow managed to piss off everyone with
decision-making authority in the organization?. That takes special skill! The
same skill needed to get pitched off virtually every moderated group one's
ever been on (except those of their own creation). Wow! This is a real
gasser! I can't believe it!!

Rick K1BQT


Dean Craft

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RanHefner wrote in message <1e45f780...@usw-ex0103-023.remarq.com>...


It sounds to me as if all of them are just about ready to go postal!

Dean -- W4IHK

Fractenna

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HAHAHA!! The jokes on you New Hampshirite!

I saw Chip place some ads in QST to draw attention to the SITE about an hour
before he posted today. They graciously took the ads no problem. So it looks
like Chip doesn't HAVE a problem with the ARRL does it?

[Sure looks like Chip is being a good doobie and putting the focus where it's
most accessible==and the info is free!]

That's the last contact he had with ARRL since Steve Ford asked him to write a
fractal antenna article in 1998:-)

He turned'em down:-) so tell us how he managed to 'alienate' em so much that
they would ask him to write for 'em! Or are ALL hams obligated to write
articles when asked?

By the way when was the last time YOU submitted a article to a ham magazine
there Rick? Whens the last time someone asked YOU? Or did you run out of your
nepotistic trump card? Sure helps having your wife as an editor. I mean
ex-editor:-)

Rick's wife edited communication quarterly until it went belly up a half year
ago. Funny how he had an article in EVERY issue and now he don't write for
anyone. What does that tell YOU?

BELLY UP! Here's mud in your eye!

Hmmm??? What??

RIGHT!!!!

73
de Phil
N1ZKT

Fractenna

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>
>Is this a slip? Man you guys or guy or whatever you are are
>weird.
>
>Randy Hefner, Ph.Art
>
>
>
>
>
>Randy A. Hefner
>http://talk.to/frs
>http://go.to/qx3
>------------------
>Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com.
>Up to 100 minutes free!
>http://www.keen.com
>
What what? Huh huh? I don't understand what you you'se mean?

Mean?

73 Phil
de N1ZKT

What the heck is a philosphy in ART?!

K1BQT

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Hi Phil--

>By the way when was the last time YOU submitted a article to a ham magazine
there Rick? Whens the last time someone asked YOU?<

Geezuz, "Phil", why don't you just swallow your foot up to your asshole in one
big gulp! Tom's right, you can't read!

But, if July QST isn't enough, try August (when it comes out) and future issues
of QEX, QRP Quarterly, and more. Apologies greatfully accepted, bigmouth.

Rick K1BQT


Tom W8JI

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On 28 Jun 2000 00:46:02 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>[Sure looks like Chip is being a good doobie and putting the focus where it's
>most accessible==and the info is free!]

I'm not sure I understand the use of the term "Chip is a doobie".

Isn't "doobie" a slang-word for twisted-up paper with marijuana in it,
that you smoke or chew? Or does it mean something else?

73 Tom

Tom W8JI

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On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:20:39 -0700, RanHefner
<ranhefne...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

>Is this a slip? Man you guys or guy or whatever you are are
>weird.
>
>Randy Hefner, Ph.Art

Phil is the boy-child who calls playground names Randy. He comes out
once a month, just after the full moon.

73 Tom

TyllEulenspiegel

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Wow
What a testimonial.

>
>HAHAHA!! The jokes on you New Hampshirite!
>
>I saw Chip place some ads in QST to draw attention to the SITE about an hour
>before he posted today. They graciously took the ads no problem. So it looks
>like Chip doesn't HAVE a problem with the ARRL does it?
>

>[Sure looks like Chip is being a good doobie and putting the focus where it's
>most accessible==and the info is free!]
>

>That's the last contact he had with ARRL since Steve Ford asked him to write
>a
>fractal antenna article in 1998:-)
>
>He turned'em down:-) so tell us how he managed to 'alienate' em so much that
>they would ask him to write for 'em! Or are ALL hams obligated to write
>articles when asked?
>

>By the way when was the last time YOU submitted a article to a ham magazine

Yuri Blanarovich

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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>What what? Huh huh? I don't understand what you you'se mean?
>
>Mean?
>
>73 Phil
>de N1ZKT

Another example of what happens to people who are around Freaktanals, their
brains get Fractalized (TM) - pathetic!
What an "honor" to ham radio and ham callsign.

BUm

K1BQT

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>Wow
>What a testimonial.

Right! Perhaps they'd like to change that thread to "Arrrghhhhh,dang it!",
excepts that's already been taken. Gotta say, it's one of the more nasty and
mean-spirited pieces of prose I've seen in a while. Not much question about
the sort of people who write stuff like that.

Rick K1BQT

Fractenna

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>
>Hi Phil--

>
>>By the way when was the last time YOU submitted a article to a ham magazine
>there Rick? Whens the last time someone asked YOU?<
>
>Geezuz, "Phil", why don't you just swallow your foot up to your asshole in
>one
>big gulp! Tom's right, you can't read!
>
>But, if July QST isn't enough, try August (when it comes out) and future
>issues
>of QEX, QRP Quarterly, and more. Apologies greatfully accepted, bigmouth.
>
>Rick K1BQT
>

Geesus" Terr--I mean "Rick"--aka Asshole--

Tell us MORE!

Like: Who asked you to SUBMIT these articles and what they are about. And hey
isn't QEX just communication quarterly in disguize?

By the way why we are speaking about assholes, aren't you the asshole who
threatened Chip back in January? I see something in the portfolio on broken
knees and death threats. Yup. it's from you.

Chip may have to keep quiet but I don't so keep it up "asshole" and you'll get
what you dish out and then some.

Asshole.

73
Phil
de N1ZKT

Fractenna

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>Another example of what happens to people who are around Freaktanals, their
>brains get Fractalized (TM) - pathetic!
>What an "honor" to ham radio and ham callsign.
>
>BUm
>

"Bum"--
Geezuz. Another asshole.

73
de Phil
N1ZKT


Fractenna

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What an asshole! (see watta great new word you taught me Rick?)

You have the true weirdness to make death threats and you call ME mean
spirited?

At least you recognise now I'm a real person and not some multiple
personality. Getting kinda sick of your MPH crap there Rick.Also sick of your
dog sex crap.

Fractenna

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>Geezuz, "Phil", why don't you just swallow your foot up to your asshole in
>one
>big gulp

Geezuz "Rick", is this the kind of language and example QST needs and uses? Or
were you lucky enough to have someone EDIT your stuff before you MADE an
asshole of yourself.

Nice Word!

73
Phil
de N1ZKT

Fractenna

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Phil--

I saw the recent exchanges. Kindly don't engage Thomas Rauch or Frederick
Littlefield. I appreciate that you are fed up with this nonsense, but Greg
wants me to not respond to them. Even though you are your own person I am sure
they will continue this ruse of 'multiple personalities'. Let Greg maintain his
strategy on that.

Meeting went well; I will be in early.

I am sending a copy of this to the NG to let them know my feeling on it.


Best,
Chip

Tom W8JI

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On 28 Jun 2000 02:03:46 GMT, tylleule...@aol.com
(TyllEulenspiegel) wrote:

>Wow
>What a testimonial.


Phil is the playground child persona at Fractenna. He demonstrates the
maturity of the group.

73 Tom

Tom W8JI

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Hi "Chip",

Since "Phil" is sitting at your keyboard posting on your computer
using your screen name, why not just talk directly to him instead of
talking to him via an internet newsgroup that goes out all over the
world??

When I have "guests", we don't take turns using the keyboard to type
to each other. Or am I missing something special about your situation?

By the way. "Phil" really does your cause little good. He either makes
people think you are crazy because it seems like he is you, or if his
is real his gross immaturity and poor social skills reflect on your
maturity.

I suspect few people that are your age could stand being around
someone who acts like a schoolboy in sixth grade or earlier. The whole
thing makes you look very odd.

73 Tom

Fractenna

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>It sounds to me as if all of them are just about ready to go postal!
>
>Dean -- W4IHK

I do not maintain ANY contact with Frederick Littelfield or Thomas Rauch; why
would I have an interest in snail mail with them?

73
Chip N1IR

Tom W8JI

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On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:47:01 -0400, "Dean Craft"
<w4...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>It sounds to me as if all of them are just about ready to go postal!
>
>Dean -- W4IHK


It's the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life Dean.

They use the same screen name, and AOL never allows screen names to be
duplicated by multiple system subscribers. That means they are both
using the same general access point.

Yet they communicate with each other via this newsgroup.

Talking to oneself in public is bad enough, typing to oneself in
public is exceptionally unusual behavior, especially when you look at
"Phil's" apparent age of pre-highscool.

73 Tom

Fractenna

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Dear Readers,

Under the advise of my attorney, I do not want nor encourage contact with Mr.
Rauch.

Phil is his own person. I copied the NG as a courtesy. In particular Bill
Aycock requested my intervention, in a post on this NG.

I am sure that if individuals such as Thomas Rauch or Frederick Littelfield
wish to express opinions of character, their attorneys will have ample
opportunity to prepare and articulate said cases.

I, too, share Phil's disgust with the accusations of multiple personality
disorder, unusual sex acts, and so on.

Phil is welcome to continue expressing his opinion in response to the insanity
of a few individuals on this NG. He is welcome to post with this screenname
just as visiting hams have been welcomed, and used, my callsign when visiting
this station. Like them, I require an ID.

Incidentally, when my 8 year old was operating from N1IR , I received no
accusations of schizophrenia or multiple personality disorder. Can anyone think
of one reason why this SHOULD have occurred?

Or can anyone think of a reason why every member of my family should have their
own, separate telephone and never let anyone else use it? Is my 8 year old
being schizophrenic when he uses my cell phone? Why would any normal person
accuse HIM of being ME when he gets on my cellphone and says he is A.J.?

It is a very peculiar frame of mind that a few people have on this NG.

73
Chip N1IR

Bill Aycock

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Fractenna wrote:
> ??
SNIP


>
> Phil is his own person. I copied the NG as a courtesy. In particular Bill
> Aycock requested my intervention, in a post on this NG.
>

SNIP
> 73
> Chip N1IR

For the record- I did not request Chips intervention- My comment was
that the entity signing the screen name os "Phil" was a pretty low form
of life.(not a direct quote) This entity is known to be a lier. The
record will show, for instance, that, last year, this entity editted
material from other posters to the NG, in such a way that the meaning
was altered drastically, and reposted the altered material as a
quotation.

I really think that many of the posts purportedly from the etity known
as "Phil" are composed and sent by the entity known as "Chip" or
"Nathan". I know he patiently explains that others use the screen name,
"Fractenna", and that may be true, but I have not seen him state that he
(Chip) does not sometimes use the signature "Phil".

The entity known as Phil is known to be a lier, but the persona "Chip"
tries to be above that. That is why the lack of a denial, replaced by
the "multi-user" claim, which does NOT serve the same purpose.

There really IS a person by that name, and with the call attributed to
him, listed in the callbooks. I wonder if he knows of the trash being
sent out over his name? I dont see how any individual with any self
respect could allow his name to be prostituted that way.

Bill

Fractenna

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Bill,

This speculation has been posed--destructively--many times. Here you go again.

It is not correct.

When Phil wants to post he posts. Phil is Phil. How many times must I tell you
and a handful of others that we are NOT the same person, and that we ID when we
post on this screen name?

The only thing that I see that's new in your speculation, is an attempt to
separate 'Phil' from 'me' by calling 'Phil' the 'liar' (please correct your
spelling Bill).

In fact, I seem to remember quite a few posts where I have also been called a
liar.

Of course, that is also incorrect.

Hope this helps.

73
Chip N1IR
---------------------------------------------------------
GOT FRACTAL? Check out the ham page on http://www.fractenna.com for info on
fractal antennas!
---------------------------------------------------------

Tom W8JI

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On 28 Jun 2000 09:11:05 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>Dear Readers,
>
>Under the advise of my attorney, I do not want nor encourage contact with Mr.
>Rauch.

Then why mention me in your posts? That seems pretty stupid.

>Phil is his own person. I copied the NG as a courtesy. In particular Bill
>Aycock requested my intervention, in a post on this NG.

For Sybil, each voice in her head was "their own person". Things
looked very real to her.
<snip>

>It is a very peculiar frame of mind that a few people have on this NG.

Agreed!

>73
>Chip N1IR

Bill Aycock

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Sorry about the faulty spelling, it was very early, and both Merlin and
Miko were yelling for their breakfast. Miko has sharp claws, and
delaying his repast is done at peril.

The entity known as "Phil" is scum. PLease note that the post below does
not contain the simple statement that "Chip" does not and has not
composed and signed as "Phil". Again, we have the statement that Phil is
Phil. We knew that. The question is, has "Chip" been "Phil", or has
"Phil" been "Chip", and does "Nathan"s reputation (for what?) suffer
from the trash "Phil" spews?

I think that all of the merde spewed yesterday, ostensibly from "Phil"
and the "intervention" of last night came from one keyboard and one set
of hands. I wont say brain, because I see little evidence that one was
in use.

Bill

Fractenna wrote:
>
> >
> >Fractenna wrote:
> >> ??
> >SNIP


> >>
> >> Phil is his own person. I copied the NG as a courtesy. In particular Bill
> >> Aycock requested my intervention, in a post on this NG.
> >>

Fractenna

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I have already said your speculations are incorrect.

Why do you entertain this notion that I am Phil? Tell us WHY this is so?

It's been fodder for hassle for me for two years now and I'm tired of it.

If Phil used his screenname, would that make it more believable? If so, then
why?
Give a compelling reason and I'm sure he will consider doing so. All I can see
right now is some bizarre positioning where you want to put words into my
mouth--so to speak.

Have you never seen anyone else have more than one person on a screenname? I
can't believe you haven't.

Are you aware that AOL ACTUALLY goes the OTHER way--and encourages subscribers
to get MORE THAN 1 SCREENNAME? If you want schizophrenia, it seems to me THAT
would be the way to do it. I am sure that COHENDOG is one of these--and he
sure isn't me or Phil or anyone who signs on here.

It seems to me that rather than misleading you we are being very
straightforward and honest.I can see you don't like it, but in the parlance of
the direct--'tough".

Why don't you explore these issues with AOL if you have a problem with them. I,
for one, am sick of this harassment and speculation. See if what we do--which
is use 'frac...@aol.com' communally is within the bounds of the subscriber
agreement. If you can prove otherwise then I will take FRACTENNA off the NG
and we will use our own e-mails.

Keep in mind that my attorney will request copies of all such correspondence
that results in any delay or interruption of service; unreasonable requirement
of my time; and so on.

Can we presume that Merlin and Miko are "independent entities"--or are we now
to speculate that they are multiple personalities of Bill Aycock?

73
Chip N1IR

Fractenna

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I am reposting to keep the focus on the thread.

73
Chip N1IR

----------------------------------------------------------

QST--

Good News!

I have been given permission to post more ham info on the ham page of:

http://www.fractenna.com

In fact, I have ben invited by Fractal Antenna Systems, Inc to keep ALL my ham
related articles on that page. This is something I have been seeking for some
time, as I feel the print media is no longer viable for publishing ham radio
articles. Fortunately the server/host costs have come down enough to make this
possible.

Plans are to put my Comm. Quarterly articles up as pdf's (Fractal Antenna
Systems, Inc is the copyright holder of these) and new ones as separate web
pages. I haven't decided about the Dx Magazine and 73 articles yet, there are
some possible copyright issues on these.

There will be 3 new articles placed up later in the summer, with about 10
others going into the winter.

I still get about 95 -100 e-mails a month asking for more fractal antenna
designs and this should be the best way to handle it.

As always, I can be reached for questions on fractal antennas at the FRACTAL
ANTENNA REFLECTOR, which is joined by doing:

fractalanten...@egroups.com

I remind readers that I do not address fractal antenna questions on this NG,
due the to problem of concerted, personal attacks. If, and as, this changes, I
will reconsider.

Best 73 to All,
Chip N1IR

K1BQT

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Hi Tom and Bill--

Clearly, no responsible employer would tolerate--let alone condone or openly
encourage--behavior such as "Phil" has exhibited on this NG--especially as an
employee posting under a company account. By any reasonable standard and by
any reputial company, Mr. Salkind would have (and should have) been terminated
immediately. Chip's failure to do so only solidifies his complicity,
permission, encouragement, and full culpability--a point no judge would fail to
note. The suggestion that "Phil" is "Phil" is pure horseraddish.

It should be no secret that the "parties" who currently conspire to mis-use the
law to exact personal revenge--and to silence Tom's and my voice on the
newsgroup (as well as others)--have a huge legal and PR problem with this
"entity" called "Phil". The long and ongoing string of libel, altered posts,
distorted accusations, personal defamation, lies, fraudulent charges, and
outright mean-spirited behavior attributed to "Phil" (as well as the "others")
remain stamped in the archives like a dark stain that won't go away.

It must be an interesting exercise to try and "build a case" for harm to a
growing company and prosperous family--while, at the same time, pretending 3/4
of the fractenna posts don't exist and that consequential harm to others may
not have resulted because of them.

Rick K1BQT

Fractenna

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>From: k1...@aol.com (K1BQT)
>Date: 6/28/00 9:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20000628095232...@ng-fm1.aol.com>
>
>Hi Tom and Bill--

Bill Aycock

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Fractenna wrote:
>
SNIP


>
> Can we presume that Merlin and Miko are "independent entities"--or are we now
> to speculate that they are multiple personalities of Bill Aycock?
>
> 73
> Chip N1IR


Again- there is no statement concerning whether "Chip" or "Nathan" ever
uses the name "Phil"- just lots of waffle about the policies of AOL, as
if that were any part of the question.

Merlin and Miko are cats- nice cats, and , if my observation is any
guide, smarter than "Phil". At least- they try to cover what he just
spreads about.

There is a nice, appropriate quotation from page 150 of "The Joy of
Work" by Scott Adams.
"Trying to win an argument with an irrational person is like trying to
teach a cat to snorkel by providing written instructions"

Bye, "Phil"- CUL

Bill

Rog

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On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:11:50 -0500, "Peter O. Brackett"
<ab...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Group:
>
>[snip]


>>
>> I remind readers that I do not address fractal antenna questions on this
>NG,
>> due the to problem of concerted, personal attacks. If, and as, this
>changes, I
>> will reconsider.

Please don't reconsider - spare us. Individuals who persist in
wearing whatever "advanced degrees" they claim to have on their
sleeves are generally not worth listening to anyway. So just butt out
and let the rest of us persue serious antenna issues.

>>
>> Best 73 to All,
>> Chip N1IR

>[snip]
>


Fractenna

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Sure there was; and both Phil and I are prepared to discuss it in a court of
law.

Hope that helps.

By the way, did you see my CAT picture? The thing is about 100 lbs....

73
Chip N1IR

Fractenna

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I find your advice to Peter O Brackett constructive, and I hope he takes it to
heart.

73
Chip N1IR

Peter O. Brackett

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Wow...

Fractal Antennas now providing a vanity e-press?

I've got some controversial ham related articles that I would like to have
e-published there.

And of course I am willing to pay for the privilege.

From whom do I seek permission?

Peter K1PO


"Fractenna" <frac...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20000628101119...@ng-ff1.aol.com...

> I remind readers that I do not address fractal antenna questions on this
NG,
> due the to problem of concerted, personal attacks. If, and as, this
changes, I
> will reconsider.
>

Tom W8JI

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On 28 Jun 2000 14:57:29 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>Sure there was; and both Phil and I are prepared to discuss it in a court of
>law.

Boy, I sure hope I don't miss my turn!

Promises promises, and he never keeps any of them.

>By the way, did you see my CAT picture? The thing is about 100 lbs....

Unnh hunnh, I'm sure. Just like a fractal has magic properties.

CAM

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Fractenna wrote:
> By the way, did you see my CAT picture? The thing is about 100 lbs....

My uncle used to drive a ten ton CAT. :-)
--
http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca

RanHefner

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frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
>>
>
>Why do you entertain this notion that I am Phil? Tell us WHY
this is so?
>

Maybe because that most ISP's that provide newsgroup access do
not allow you to let others user your account. This is usually
in the agreement you "electronically" sign.

>
>Keep in mind that my attorney will request copies of all such
correspondence
>that results in any delay or interruption of service;
unreasonable requirement
>of my time; and so on.
>

Oh give the LITIGATION BULL CRAP a rest Phil...uh...Chip...or
WHOEVER YOU ARE TODAY. Those who threaten litigation rarely do!

>
>73
>Chip N1IR
>
>

What does N1IR mean? Maybe it means "Not 1 Intelligent Remark."


Randy A. Hefner
http://talk.to/frs
http://go.to/qx3
http://come.to/funnynews
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Fractenna

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>Fractenna wrote:
>> By the way, did you see my CAT picture? The thing is about 100 lbs....
>
>My uncle used to drive a ten ton CAT. :-)
>--

...but this one has 4 legs and eats mice for snacks;-)

73
Chip N1IR

Fractenna

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>Maybe because that most ISP's that provide newsgroup access do
>not allow you to let others user your account. This is usually
>in the agreement you "electronically" sign.
>

Obviously you are not familiar with AOL. But if you feel strongly about it, go
ahead and explore it.

As I said, my attorney will petition for, and use as evidence, any
documentation which attempts to interfere with my legal and authorized access.
So you better make very, very sure that you have your facts right if you wish
to attempt a complaint.

Have a happy day!

73
Chip N1IR

RanHefner

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frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
>
>Obviously you are not familiar with AOL. But if you feel
strongly about it, go
>ahead and explore it.
>
>As I said, my attorney will petition for, and use as evidence,
any
>documentation which attempts to interfere with my legal and
authorized access.
>So you better make very, very sure that you have your facts
right if you wish
>to attempt a complaint.
>

If your lawyer really gives you this advice, you better get a
better lawyer! There is absolutely NO legal action you can file
against a person for informing AOL of potiential misuse of their
system. If AOL dumps your access because of that information,
it is CLEAR that you were misusing its facilities. And if that
is the case, you have NO legal leg to stand on.

I will make it easy for you Frac! Tell me what I need to say
for you to bring your legal muscle to bare. PLEASE.

Everyone here has a Constitutionl right to their opinion...If my
opinion is that you are multi-personalitied jerk that loves to
hear his own bugle...Then I may state it! IT IS MY OPINION. My
opinion is that you need SERIOUS mental helpl IT IS MY OPINION
that you look down form your self-erected pedistal cloaked in
your Ph.D. and belittle others. GO AHEAD...MAKE MY DAY...SUE ME!

You don't scare anyone you pithetic little weasle.

Randy Hefner, Ph.Art.

>Have a happy day!
>
>73
>Chip N1IR
>
>

K1BQT

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If any AOL sub says something on here you don't like, AOL advises you to
forward a copy of the post to >ab...@aol.net<. If enough people do it, who
knows? Perhaps Chip's accound will get canned (but don't worry, he has at
least two more). More likely, I'm told the university--who kindly provides us
with the BW to conduct this nonesense--might jettison the whole darn newsgroup.
How about that prospect?

Rick K1BQT

K1BQT

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Hi Tom--

>Boy, I sure hope I don't miss my turn!<

Me either! I'm not a hateful guy, and I don't have a whole lot of free time
for being negative. But there are a few things in this world I don't like very
much!

1. Newt Gingrich
2. USDA canned spinach
3. The Howard Stern Show
4. Rush Limbaugh
5. Celine Dion's attitude
6. Pubis Pediculosis
7. Chip.

With the exception of #6, I would never lift a finger to hurt any of them. In
fact, unlike some of the puffins on here, I've been called to war to defend
their right to be foolish. But there's no law anywhere saying I have to like
everybody and everything! Is there?

73

Rick K1BQT


Bill Aycock

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JUst as a matter of interest, and to put chips "hit" count into
perspective- the counter on his site is funny- when you go to a link,
then back- the count goes up each time- I, personally, have accounted
for over a dozen counts in one trip, without going past the links he has
listed. I made it jump 4 counts, today, when trying to follow a bad
link.
(It was listed as a Y2K site, but lead me to an ad for the center he has
his company in.) Foolishly, I tried more than once, thinking I had hit a
wrong link. Makes the hits CLIMB!

Bill

Fractenna wrote:
>
SNIP
> Right now the ham page is linked by over 150 plus web pages and has had traffic
> in excess of 190,000 hits since its inception almost two years ago. This is
> more than the main page by the way.
>
>
> 73
> Chip N1IR

side...@mindspring.com

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Have you not got it through your multiple thick skulls that we don't give a rats
ass?

Fractenna wrote:

--
The preceding may or may not have been authored by myself but I offer it to you
for your perusal.
Feel free to read as little or as much of it as you like. Be forewarned that I
refuse to use a
spell checker and don't take criticism well.

Lumpy

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A socially challenged being wrote:
> ...I do not address fractal antenna questions on this NG,

> due the to problem of concerted, personal attacks. If,
> and as, this changes, I will reconsider...

Please don't

Lumpy

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Rick wrote (about Frac):
> ...The same skill needed to get pitched off virtually
> every moderated group one's ever been on (except those
> of their own creation)...

Now come on Rick. You know that mod group is not his
own creation. He was "finally invited" by his own
company to join.

lump

Lumpy

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OK. Let me make sure I've got this right -

The schitzo frac team says:
> ...I feel the print media is no longer viable for
> publishing ham radio articles..

Then says:
> ...I saw Chip place some ads in QST to
> draw attention to the SITE...

Ok so the print media is not OK for the articles
but it's OK to advertise that the articles are
on a website that the company owned by the author
has 'finally' agreed to let post the articles.

It's perfectly clear to all of us but one.


Lumpy

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Tom wrote:
> Since "Phil" is sitting at your keyboard posting on your computer
> using your screen name, why not just talk directly to him instead of
> talking to him via an internet newsgroup that goes out all over the
> world??

Because it's "Greg's" strategy. A new personna we'll all
hear from, I'm sure.

lump


Lumpy

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Rick wrote:
> ...there's no law anywhere saying I have to like
> everybody and everything! Is there?...

Yup. It's in the AOL bylaws. You have to be
nice to Chip and Phil.

lump

Fractenna

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>Ok so the print media is not OK for the articles
>but it's OK to advertise that the articles are
>on a website that the company owned by the author
>has 'finally' agreed to let post the articles.


That is exactly correct.

Right now the ham page is linked by over 150 plus web pages and has had traffic
in excess of 190,000 hits since its inception almost two years ago. This is
more than the main page by the way.

Print media cannot compete with the web; that much is clear with respect to ham
radio. I regret that, but it is what's happening. The only viable magazines are
ones that are basically collections of ads (yes, I enjoy them too). Thus it
makes sense to advertise the web page, a happy 'push pull' in this case.

The ham page will be able to handle at least 1/2 mill hits a year very
comfortably, without resorting to an in-house server.

I am grateful that Fractal Antenna Systems, Inc understands that this is the
best way to get hams informed and involved; two years of data has shown this to
work and its time to start scaling it up.

Actually I'm quite excited about it; the only constraint is the time in
responses. By funneling queries to the Fractal Antenna Reflector, there is
enough archive access that I won't feel like someone devoting his life to a
tech line. I just don't have the time.

>It's perfectly clear to all of us but one.
>

I had two years to think about how best to implement it; I made my case; it got
approval.

73
Chip N1IR


Fractenna

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>JUst as a matter of interest, and to put chips "hit" count into
>perspective- the counter on his site is funny- when you go to a link,
>then back- the count goes up each time- I, personally, have accounted
>for over a dozen counts in one trip, without going past the links he has
>listed. I made it jump 4 counts, today, when trying to follow a bad
>link.
>(It was listed as a Y2K site, but lead me to an ad for the center he has
>his company in.) Foolishly, I tried more than once, thinking I had hit a
>wrong link. Makes the hits CLIMB!
>
>Bill
>
>Fractenna wrote:
>>
>SNIP
>> Right now the ham page is linked by over 150 plus web pages and has had
>traffic
>> in excess of 190,000 hits since its inception almost two years ago. This is
>> more than the main page by the way.
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Chip N1IR
>

Yup. Absolutely true. Every time you hit the main page it registers a hit.
That's how it works.
You may hold the world's record for hits per visit though. I don't know how or
why you would link BACK 12 times.

What's happened on the ham page is that enough people have bookmarked it that
they don't travel through the main page. And you certainly don't go THROUGH the
ham page to get to the main page. It works the other way around.

People just like to visit it:-)

Fine with me:-) Thanks for your interest and plug-)

For others, take a look for yourself:

http://www.fractenna.com/ham/hampage_main.html

Telecom City is a super place! Probably the best model in the east coast right
now for joint city; state; and federal development.

Basically Telecom City will be a Silicon Valley for Telecom--right outside of
Boston!

73,
Chip N1IR

K1BQT

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Hi Lumpy--

>Yup. It's in the AOL bylaws. You have to be nice to Chip and Phil.<

By gosh, you're right! I just read 'em. No flaming, no trolling, no libel, no
false charges of criminal activity, no nasty personal comments about family
members, no altering other people's posts, no distortions of fact, no
condescention, no authority figure fetishes, no southy-mouth monologues, no
threats of retraining orders and civil suits, none of that! Can't even say
anything that might promote your company, commercial web site, or professional
agenda. It's all right there! Eye opening!

Guess that means I can't talk about Howard Stern, USDA spinach, or Chip's
behavior--whether I like 'em or not. Wow, that's gonna be a major time saver!

73

Rick K1BQT

Lumpy

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Fractenna wrote:

> Actually I'm quite excited about it;
> the only constraint is the time in
> responses. By funneling queries to
> the Fractal Antenna Reflector, there
> is enough archive access that I won't
> feel like someone devoting his life to a
> tech line. I just don't have the time.

If you don't have the time, then why don't you
just take your silly ass off this NG and stay
on your own self formed, self moderated, self
supported, self centered mail list.

Anyone on this NG subscribe to chip's list?
Can you enlighten us...Is the dialogue anything
like it is here or are there some people who
actually believe chip?

lumpy

Imagine the board meetings at the Frac Corp...

Bill Aycock

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Lumpy- I WAS subscribed to Fracs lists (several), and am now (according
to the egroups list) still on one of them. That one has had no postings
for many weeks.
The others were too heavily censored for me to stomach. If there was any
flavor of a position that the Frac didn't like- it didnt get out.
Apparently, most postings to the list were either dumped or answered
directly by the Frac, without passing on to the peons (the rest of us).

He has said that my claims of almost zero postings is false- I only know
about the ones that got through while I was there- it was not many. His
claim may be true- he really only mentions the ones that CAME IN, not
those that got to the world.

I REALLY wanted to look into the FRactal antennas- He was no help at
all- there is a list of 26 wire points on the "Ham page" that is the
same as it was over a year ago, and is worth little. He still has that
pitiful photo of the FQY against a tree- if one of his sycophants had
not taken pity on him and made a reasonable graphic, there would still
be nothing to see.

Frac will not give the EZNEC file out unless you beg for it, only on his
list, and agree to certain restrictions on its use and distribution. It
IS NOT an open forum, and has not been , ever. He is the 'moderator',
'censor', 'dictator', and absolute horses behind of his own little,
private world. I didn't like it, so, putting my actions where my
feelings were (are)- I quit his little puddle, and left him to be king
frog, croaking his little heart out, for very few listeners.

Now- he has the gall to ask how to make his story more palettable- JOKE,
right?

Sorry for the rant, lumpy, but, you did ask.

Bill

Lumpy

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Bill Aycock wrote:
> ...I WAS subscribed to Fracs lists...
> ...I really wanted to look into the FRactal antennas-
> He was no help at all...

> ...It IS NOT an open forum, and has not been , ever.


> He is the 'moderator', 'censor', 'dictator', and

> absolute horses behind of his own little, private world...

Thanks for verifying what I suspected, Bill.

I keep hearing frac talk about all the hits
his pages get. It's no wonder. He spreads
a bunch of ca-ca around claiming to have
the wonder antenna to beat all antennas.
For more info click here...Of course
people will have a look. Then they
realize what a joke it all is.

Pity he's such a potato head. A mind
is a terrible thing to waste.

lumpy

Tom W8JI

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On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:25:55 -0500, Bill Aycock <bay...@hiwaay.net>
wrote:

>Lumpy- I WAS subscribed to Fracs lists (several), and am now (according
>to the egroups list) still on one of them. That one has had no postings
>for many weeks.

<snip>

an interesting side-note...

Frac, including all those various names who post from his keyboard,
was booted off two other antenna related reflectors for his poor
behavior.

To my knowledge, he was the only one banned for life from two antenna
reflectors!!! I know of only one other case where a person was banned
from a reflector, and it was somone who actually went to school or
worked with Chip!!!

Think about that one. It probably explains why he has to start his own
antenna reflectors.

73 Tom

eh...@bellatlantic.net

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Geezus. I don't get it. My netscape shows that you are
replying to yourself, not to Phil. I see a line from this
post directly to the one that you signed as follows:

Best 73 to All,
Chip N1IR
That post started this thread and is timestamped
27 Jun 2000 14:41:29 GMT

Now, I'm real lost. Are you, who signs as follows:
Best,
Chip
The same Chip as Chip N1IR ?
And is that Chip also Phil? That's what you call him.

Help - somebody give me a scorecard so I can tell
who the players are.

Fractenna wrote:

> Phil--
>
> I saw the recent exchanges. Kindly don't engage Thomas Rauch or Frederick
> Littlefield. I appreciate that you are fed up with this nonsense, but Greg
> wants me to not respond to them. Even though you are your own person I am sure
> they will continue this ruse of 'multiple personalities'. Let Greg maintain his
> strategy on that.
>
> Meeting went well; I will be in early.
>
> I am sending a copy of this to the NG to let them know my feeling on it.
>
> Best,
> Chip


Fractenna

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I would like to know when , in time, people new to the internet wewre taught
that a screenname is a PERSON.

When I first got on Bitnet,oh, almost 20 years ago, and for subsequent years, I
was taught that a screenname is an ADDRESS.

Now at my 'snail' ADDRESS there are 3 people here--each with very different
NAMES .

Think about this before you waste bandwidth next time.

73,
Chip N1IR

Tom W8JI

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On 13 Jul 2000 09:46:31 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>I would like to know when , in time, people new to the internet wewre taught
>that a screenname is a PERSON.
>
>When I first got on Bitnet,oh, almost 20 years ago, and for subsequent years, I
>was taught that a screenname is an ADDRESS.
>
>Now at my 'snail' ADDRESS there are 3 people here--each with very different
>NAMES .
>
>Think about this before you waste bandwidth next time.
>
>73,
>Chip N1IR

Chip claims to have a wife, and a son. That along with him makes
three.

We have had Phil, Beth, Hy, Jay-pole, Cohendog, and others also
posting from that same Fractenna address.

When you subtract the numbers, it appears seven or eight people post
from the same address while only three people "live there". It seems
to me someone must be talking to himself in public, or else people
drive miles to use the same keyboard at all hours of the day and
night.

Either way, it's a very odd situation.

73 Tom

RanHefner

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Jul 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/13/00
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Your screen name at AOL is fractenna. How many people does that
represent?

Randy Hefner, Ph.Art.

>I would like to know when , in time, people new to the internet
wewre taught
>that a screenname is a PERSON.
>
>When I first got on Bitnet,oh, almost 20 years ago, and for
subsequent years, I
>was taught that a screenname is an ADDRESS.
>
>Now at my 'snail' ADDRESS there are 3 people here--each with
very different
>NAMES .
>
>Think about this before you waste bandwidth next time.
>
>73,
>Chip N1IR
>
>

-----------------------------------------------------------

eh...@bellatlantic.net

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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What in the hell are you talking about????
The word PERSON does not appear in my post.
I am referring to signature lines - did you not read
my question???

Can you answer a simple question without giving
gratituitous - and erroneous - advice?
i.e. "think about this ..." etc
I'm just trying to figure out why someone who
uses a SIGNATURE LINE of "Chip NI1R"
responds to someone who uses a signature
line of "Chip" and calls the latter "Phil"

It's no wonder you attract personal attacks.
These are my observations based on your
reply to me:
You didn't answer a simple question. You
didn't read the question and comprehend it.
You didn't know who you were "talking" to
when you called "Chip" Phil. (Or you did,
and Chip is really Phil. But I can't tell as you
did not answer the question.)
You were presumptuous - you presumed
either that I did not think about it or that
I needed instruction. And you were judgemental
and pejorative: you accused me of wasting
bandwith. These are observartions, not
personal attacks.

And that is all within ONE response - your
response to my question.

How in the hell am I (or anyone else) supposed
to learn about antennas from you when you can't
even answer a simple question about why you call
someone who identifies himself as "Chip" by another
name - "Phil".

Fractenna

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Jul 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/14/00
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>How in the hell am I (or anyone else) supposed
>to learn about antennas from you when you can't
>even answer a simple question about why you call
>someone who identifies himself as "Chip" by another
>name - "Phil".

Because you are a irritating turkey.. That's Why. FIGURE IT OUT TURKEY!

We're not GEORGE FORMAN here! EVERYONE HAS A SEPARATE NAME! If you don't like
that then tuff tizzy!

CHIP is CHIP is CHIP. PHIL IS PHIL. IF someeone for example is visiting then
the VISITOR is the VISITOR!

What kind idiot asks who someone is when they already TOLD you who they are?!

Now lissen carefully...follow?

C H I P

IS NOT

P H I L

and...

read CAREFULLY NOW... here is the B I G one...

P H I L

is not

C H I P


OK?

Capiche?

GO find some cranbury sauce and gobbel elsewhere.

Phil

GET IT?
I am...

PHIL

Ah.. U R hopeless...

Tom W8JI

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On 14 Jul 2000 23:54:59 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>GET IT?
> I am...
>PHIL
>Ah.. U R hopeless...

Sybil's personalities would deny any relationship to each other, and
had dissimilar writing styles.

They all had the same return address, however.

73 Tom

TyllEulenspiegel

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Jul 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/15/00
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How could it possibly matter?

TyllEulenspiegel

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Must matter a lot.

Peter O. Brackett

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It's simple Tom, they are just using the screen name as a screen.

Peter K1PO

"Tom W8JI" <2w...@contesting.com> wrote in message
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> On 13 Jul 2000 09:46:31 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
>

> >I would like to know when , in time, people new to the internet wewre
taught
> >that a screenname is a PERSON.
> >
> >When I first got on Bitnet,oh, almost 20 years ago, and for subsequent
years, I
> >was taught that a screenname is an ADDRESS.
> >
> >Now at my 'snail' ADDRESS there are 3 people here--each with very
different
> >NAMES .
> >
> >Think about this before you waste bandwidth next time.
> >
> >73,
> >Chip N1IR
>

Peter O. Brackett

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Phi:

I'll be up there in Telecom City, MA sometime next week on business.

I cannot say which day I can be available but it will be sometime before
lunch, hopefully we could go to lunch together.

Since,when it comes to timing, I/we are at the mercy of our customers, you
won't be able to prepare for our/my visit at a specific hour. I'll just
come and ask at the door.

My partner will be with me as well. We want to visit with ya'll and see
your operation/screen name/or whatever...

Who shall I ask for when I arrive? Phil, Chip, Dr. Cohen, who....?

Best Regards,

Peter K1PO
A visitor from the sunny South.
Peter K1PO

"Fractenna" <frac...@aol.com> wrote in message
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eh...@bellatlantic.net

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Dear Phil,

I appreciate your effort in trying to clear this up.
Thank you!... But it might be better if you told
Chip that. You see, it was Chip who, in responding
to a note from someone identifying himself as "Chip N1IR",
called that person "Phil". I did not call "Chip" "Phil".
And ... my note was directed to Chip - yet you, "Phil"
respond. I do appreciate your effort to clear this up,
but, again, it is not I who am mis-naming people. It is
Chip who is calling "Chip N1IR" by the name of "Phil".

So I guess if anyone's a turkey it is the person who identified
himself as "Chip" who doesn't know the difference between
"Chip N1IR" and "Phil". Either that, or, there is no difference
between "Chip N1IR" and "Phil". Of course, if the person
who identified himself as "Chip" in the first place were to
post a reasonable reply to the question I asked, the issue
would be resolved.

I note that you do not claim to be "Chip", so you cannot
possibly speak as the initiator of the mis-naming. But
perhaps you speak on behalf of "Chip", as his designee
or representative to answer the question. If so, your
answer does need clarification. You did not state that
"Chip N1IR" is not "Phil". That was the original mis-naming,
done by "Chip". Note that that is three distinct signature
lines. But perhaps the person who signs as "Chip" and the
person who signs as "Chip N1IR" are one and the same.
You did not address that, either. So, and this is not intended
to be discourteous, as clarifications go, what you offered
was of absolutely no value because:
1) It was sent to the wrong person (me) when it should have
been sent to the person who identifies himself as "Chip"
2) It did not address the issue of "Chip N1IR" being called
"Phil" by the person who signed himself as "Chip"
and
3) There is some extraneous stuff in your post that is not
aimed at addressing the question in the first place.

eh...@bellatlantic.net

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Jul 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/16/00
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"How could it possibly matter?" Well, if I post a question
to "Chip N1IR" and "Phil" answers, how do I know if the
person I asked is the person who is answering, when
"Chip N1IR" has also been identified as "Phil"? And,
if you follow the thread, there have been all kinds of
questions concerning the question of who is the originator
of posts from Fractenna. If there really is someone at
Fractenna with special knowledge and a wish to help
those of us who might be interested (despite the storm of
BS that always seems to arise), then it would be helpful
to have a score card to know who (signature line) to
ignore and who really speaks on behalf of Fractenna.

TyllEulenspiegel wrote:

> How could it possibly matter?
>

eh...@bellatlantic.net

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OUTSTANDING article in August issue.
I just finished building a totally different design
of your project on Saturday, and THEN read
your article. Look for E mail - I'll be inquiring
about the IC. Here's what your design has over
mine: calibration (10 DB steps); range 92 db
in the chip; accuracy; single battery (mine needs
2); printed circuit board (I used an RS "utility" PC
board). Yours is far superior. I'm still very glad I
built mine (uses a DPM) as it gives me a solid
basis of comparison to yours - but I'll be building
yours to replace it.

I also like your approach in the July issue, but have
no experience with SMT to assess just how good
it is. But, based on teh reading, I would give it
another OUTSTANDING!

K1BQT wrote:

> Hi Phil--
>
> >By the way when was the last time YOU submitted a article to a ham magazine
> there Rick? Whens the last time someone asked YOU?<
>
> Geezuz, "Phil", why don't you just swallow your foot up to your asshole in one
> big gulp! Tom's right, you can't read!
>
> But, if July QST isn't enough, try August (when it comes out) and future issues
> of QEX, QRP Quarterly, and more. Apologies greatfully accepted, bigmouth.
>
> Rick K1BQT


side...@mindspring.com

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Jul 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/16/00
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ROFLMAO!!!!

Fractenna wrote:

> >how do I know if the
> >person I asked is the person who is answering, when
> >"Chip N1IR" has also been identified as "Phil"
>

> I will answer this.
>
> Please stop harassing us. Chip does not ID as Phil and Phil does not ID as
> Chip.
>
> If you continue this line of public pursuit I will notify your ISP of your
> continued efforts in this regard.
>
> Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.

--
The preceding may or may not have been authored by myself but I offer it to
you for your perusal.
Feel free to read as little or as much of it as you like. Be forewarned that
I refuse to use a
spell checker and don't take criticism well.

Jim Pennino

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Fractenna <frac...@aol.com> wrote:
>>how do I know if the
>>person I asked is the person who is answering, when
>>"Chip N1IR" has also been identified as "Phil"

> I will answer this.

So what's the answer?

Why does "Chip" answer a post by "Chip" and address it to "Phil"?

> Please stop harassing us. Chip does not ID as Phil and Phil does not ID as
> Chip.

> If you continue this line of public pursuit I will notify your ISP of your
> continued efforts in this regard.

> Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.

Jim Pennino


Fractenna

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Jul 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/17/00
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>how do I know if the
>person I asked is the person who is answering, when
>"Chip N1IR" has also been identified as "Phil"

I will answer this.

Please stop harassing us. Chip does not ID as Phil and Phil does not ID as

Tom W8JI

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Jul 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/17/00
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On 17 Jul 2000 02:10:18 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>Please stop harassing us. Chip does not ID as Phil and Phil does not ID as
>Chip.
>
>If you continue this line of public pursuit I will notify your ISP of your
>continued efforts in this regard.
>
>Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.

Fish and Chips anyone, or would you just like a Snow-cohen?

RanHefner

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frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
>
>If you continue this line of public pursuit I will notify your
ISP of your
>continued efforts in this regard.
>
>Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.
>

Na..na...na...na..na...naaaaaaa!

Randy Hefner, Ph.Art.

Anon

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Jul 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/17/00
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On 13 Jul 2000 09:46:31 GMT, some entity at the communal
frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) keyboard Blirted:

Hi Nate,
Thanks for asking I had a greate extended weekend, BTW had
a blast watching the Tall Ships passing and even a bigger
ball working maratime mobile on friday saturday and sunday.


>I would like to know when , in time, people new to the
internet wewre taught
>that a screenname is a PERSON.
>

Pray tell what is a "internet wewre"?
Is that like some poor attempt at humor from Numero uno
Internet Radio.

Now back on topic:

Nate,
your agrigated statements Shocks and Worrie, the shock
part comes in is the fact that as you have stated in your
own words you are a "proefessonals" (SIC) of some statue
and an world renowned "scientwists" (SIC) and that a
individual of this caliber and renown, is incapable in 20
plus years of determining what constitutes
proper "Internet" addresses and identity.

I guess that we can understand the identity crisis part
after seeing the Chip, Phil, Nate, and others but find the
addressing part interesting to say he least.

The worry part comes in for the poor underprivileged
students under your wing, at some point a claim of
professor of telecommunication's was put forth, how
shocking.

Readers, it looks like Nate may have a good point in all of
his bleating and blurting.

If we are to take his premise to heart that a "screenname"
is a NOT PERSON then life has just become crystal clear.
This premise is brilliant, thus just like in the Wizard of
OZ we have "screenname" talking to a
"Screenname" and not person to person, brilliant I guess
now that Boston unknown better get good at chasing them
ambulances and the family inheritance is safe for all time.


>When I first got on Bitnet,oh, almost 20 years ago, and
for subsequent years, I
>was taught that a screenname is an ADDRESS.

How bizarre and this from a
telecommunications "proefessonals" (SIC).
This evian statement from the raining fractal wizard may be
apropos for a average AOL user...But not from a world
renowned "scientwists"
Any self respecting ISP issues a valid USER or as you call
yourself "screenname" a IP address even if it is on a
temporary basis.

May I presume that you have heard of the internet? this
worldwide network run on IP (Internet Protocol) addressing
that looks like 555.555.555.555 quite similar to a system
that even you may have mastered, the telephone (blower).
Yes systems do exist named DNS resolvers that convert
registered NAMES too proper IP format ADDRESSES.
But it seems that this bit beyond your keen perception
being an aol.com sheltered user.

>Now at my 'snail' ADDRESS there are 3 people here--each
with very different
>NAMES .

Nate,

I presume that by "snail" you are referring to your
domicile and not the escargot, if so how right you are as
usual quite correct... yourself, the little lady and I
presume the offspring.
I do hope that they ALL have different first names, it may
get a bit strange at dinner having to call Chip,Chip,Chip.

>Think about this before you waste bandwidth next time.

Now this I find the most BIZZAR of statements this coming
from that communal keyboard of fractelized figments.
If one performs even the most basic news group search for
frac...@aol.com one can easily determine who is the true
bandwidth waster and the news group abuser, and I did not
even count the chipn1ir@aol identity.

>73,
>Chip N1IR
"Numero uno Internet Radio Wizard"


As always may the Fraktus be with you.

eh...@bellatlantic.net

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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Dear Nathan Cohen, Ph.D

Your response to me is ludicrous.

Notify away, all you want. This was, and is, in no way harassment.
It was a question, addressed to the person at Fractenna
who identified himself as "ChipN1IR". "Chip N1IR" has not
responded to clear up the confusion he caused when he referred to
the person at Fractenna who signed himself as "Chip N1IR" as "Phil".
He ("Chip N1IR") did not address the issue, but instead made a
condescending reply and a pejorative comment. I realized then
that I would not get a straight answer, responded to his response,
and was done - or so I thought.

However, you, who signs as "Nathan Cohen, Ph.D"
and the one who signs himself as "Phil" have perpetuated
this by your responses to me. I have not initiated communication
with either you or "Phil", but have responded to your ridiculous
posts. If you and he had been silent, you would not have heard
from me again on the issue. But you both have chosen to
perpetuate it. And then you accuse *me* of harassing "us" ???
I've never written ANYTHING to *you* until this response -
how does the word "us" apply?; I've written 2 notes to "Chip
N1IR", and one to "Phil" in reply to his note to me.

You call that harassment? And you threaten me? You are sadly
misinformed as to what harassment is. This is particularly pathetic
to see in one who claims to be a Ph.D. One assumes that a Ph.D.
would have a better understanding of the word, regardless of
his field of expertise. And *your* threat, hollow as it is, is
an element that would be considered a part of harassment, if
it ever went that far.

Let me sum up what the various posts, directed to me and
originating at Fractenna have done:
1) They have lost Fractenna a potential customer - me.
2) Because they are public, and so ludicrous, they have
likely lost Fractenna other potential customers who have
read the thread.
3) They have besmirched the credibility of anything
emanating from Fractenna in my view, and possibly
in the view others hold.

Perhaps Fractenna personnel view this as no loss.
That's fine by me. I will certainly have no interest
in pursuing anything Fractenna has to offer, after
the rudeness contained in Fractenna posts to me.

But you folks might want to think about it. In only
3 replies, you have alienated a possible future customer.
That is not good business, when repeated. I've
gone back and read a lot of threads now, and have
found a pattern of that alienation. I have also seen a
pattern of repeated threats, issued by someone at
Fractenna. I expect that will be your next escalation -
increasing your threat to me to include a lawsuit, as
you have done with others. You needn't worry -
I'm giving up asking about this specific issue of someone
who signed himself as "Chip N1IR" responding to someone
who signed the same way and addressing him as "Phil".
It is apparent that I will not receive a courteous and clear
response to that. And, I have no need after this post
to say any more on the matter - unless someone at
Fractenna decides to perpetuate it.

Fractenna wrote:

> >how do I know if the
> >person I asked is the person who is answering, when
> >"Chip N1IR" has also been identified as "Phil"
>
> I will answer this.
>

> Please stop harassing us. Chip does not ID as Phil and Phil does not ID as
> Chip.
>

Fractenna

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Dear eshjr:

I am requesting that you stop harassing me, personally;libelling me,
personally; and libelling Fractal Antenna Systems,Inc.

If not, there will most certainly be litigation in your future.

Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.

RanHefner

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
>Dear eshjr:
>
>I am requesting that you stop harassing me,
personally;libelling me,
>personally; and libelling Fractal Antenna Systems,Inc.
>
>If not, there will most certainly be litigation in your future.
>
>Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.
>
>
>
>

Damn, FRAC, Nathan, Phil or whoever you claim to be at the
moment, you are going to need a whole law firm to handle all
your law suits! HEHEHEHE....Pleeeeeaaasseee let me be the
first! HEHEHEHE

You are the little boy who cried wolf, FRAC!

Broadcast Services

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Jul 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/18/00
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I've offered to be the first "victim of litigation" but, so far, no
luck...

--

Terry Keith Hammond
President/Chief Engineer

http://hawkfm.tripod.com

Broadcast Services
P.O. Box 155
Mount Vernon, TX. 75457

(903) 588-2532 (Voice & Fax)

The radio business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic
hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and
good men die like dogs.
There's also a negative side."
- Hunter S. Thompson


"Fractenna" <frac...@aol.com> wrote in message

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Fractenna

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>your law suits! HEHEHEHE....Pleeeeeaaasseee let me be the
>first! HEHEHEHE
>

I am sorry, but one litigious situation was resolved out of court two months
ago; another also resolved in this fashion just last week; a 3rd and 4th are
pending due to out of state coordination and legal representation. I have also
been advised that a P.I. will be helpful and have acted on this also.

I am not attempting to provoke you --a public notice of my intended frame of
mind at present.

Cordially,

Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.

Jim Kelley

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Fractenna wrote:
> Dear eshjr:
>
> I am requesting that you stop harassing me, personally;libelling me,
> personally; and libelling Fractal Antenna Systems,Inc.

Wouldn't he have to start doing those things before he would be able to
stop doing them?

Would be interested to learn of the nature of the remedies you would be
seeking in your numerous civil litigations. Wouldn't investments of
other types produce a more lucrative return?

73, Jim AC6XG

K1BQT

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>...another also resolved in this fashion just last week....<

If I am correct, the "one resolved in this fashion just last week" was between
N1IR and myself. According to its wording, the "fashion" was MUTUAL, clearly in
the best interests of BOTH parties, and with a specific penalty applied to
EITHER party in the event of a breach of faith.

Put another way, I didn't submit to a "resolution" to escape the threat of
litigation. My sense is that "we" mutually entered an agreement because we
felt our posting behavior toward each other was counterproductive and worth
putting cash on the table to end. No-fault solutions can be a good thing. If
I'm mean to Chip I gotta pay. If he's mean to me, he's gotta pay! Now lawyers
involved.

73

Rick K1BQT

Tom W8JI

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On 18 Jul 2000 17:36:49 GMT, frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

>I am not attempting to provoke you --a public notice of my intended frame of
>mind at present.
>
>Cordially,
>
>Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.

It must be a fractal frame frame of mind, uniquely twisted.

73, Tom

RanHefner

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frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
>
>I am requesting that you stop harassing me,
personally;libelling me,
>personally; and libelling Fractal Antenna Systems,Inc.
>
>If not, there will most certainly be litigation in your future.
>

FRAC, you say this so much, why don't you just incorporate it in
your signature feature of your newsgroup reader?

Fractenna

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>Would be interested to learn of the nature of the remedies you would be
>seeking in your numerous civil litigations. Wouldn't investments of
>other types produce a more lucrative return?
>
>73, Jim AC6XG
>
There is no price to a man or woman's reputation and self-worth.

73,
Chip N1IR

Tom W8JI

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:59:29 -0500, "Broadcast Services"
<haw...@peoplescom.net> wrote:

> I've offered to be the first "victim of litigation" but, so far, no
>luck...
>
>--
>
> Terry Keith Hammond
> President/Chief Engineer
>

Terry,

Chip (or one of the gang at "Fractenna") has promised to visit me
first. You'll have to ride a "broken horse" after I'm done with him.

Part of the fun of this is the anticipation. It seems as if it lasts
forever.

73 Tom

RanHefner

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frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:

> There is no price to a man or woman's reputation and self-
worth.
>
>73,
>Chip N1IR
>
>

That's about what your's is worth...$0. This is my
Constitutionally protected opinion. :)

RanHefner

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2w...@contesting.com (Tom W8JI) wrote:
>Terry,
>
>Chip (or one of the gang at "Fractenna") has promised to visit
me
>first. You'll have to ride a "broken horse" after I'm done with
him.
>
>Part of the fun of this is the anticipation. It seems as if it
lasts
>forever.
>
>73 Tom
>
>

DAMN! This line just keeps getting longer and longer!

Jim Pennino

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Fractenna <frac...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Would be interested to learn of the nature of the remedies you would be
>>seeking in your numerous civil litigations. Wouldn't investments of
>>other types produce a more lucrative return?
>>
>>73, Jim AC6XG
>>
> There is no price to a man or woman's reputation and self-worth.

> 73,
> Chip N1IR

IMHO it is $19.95 a month if you prepay AOL for a year....

Jim Pennino


Kent

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TRES PLUNK

RanHefner <ranhefne...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:145934b6...@usw-ex0106-045.remarq.com...


> frac...@aol.com (Fractenna) wrote:
> >
> >If you continue this line of public pursuit I will notify your
> ISP of your
> >continued efforts in this regard.
> >
> >Nathan Cohen, Ph.D.
> >
>

> Na..na...na...na..na...naaaaaaa!
>
> Randy Hefner, Ph.Art.

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