Fractenna frightens and confuses me.
Unclaimed Mysteries
Hartman)
I'm thinking ahead to Field Day. I want to be a part of the (K4BFT)
Huntsville Amateur Radio Club's team. Thinking about putting together a
lean, mean psk31 and MT63 setup for 10m, maybe 15 and 20. The right antenna
is important. Efficient, lightweight, quick to set up. Naturally I go to
sites such as the mighty www.cebik.com and the newsgroup r.r.a.a. to see
what interested hams are talking about.
Hmm. The hexbeam is intriguing, as other designs championed by posters on
this group.
I've tried to steer clear of the fractal antennas. Why? Because I know they
don't work? No. In fact I don't know that. I've been to www.fractenna.com
and seen a content-rich web site put together by what seems to a group of
reasonable people. But like a mild-mannered commuter who flies into
road-rage the moment he thinks someone MIGHT have cut him off on the
highway, the majority of posts under the name Fractenna involve personal
threats, plagues of lawyers and a siege mentality that would have done Nixon
proud during Watergate.
My life is complicated enough. So I don't touch them with a 10ft pole
(actual unfolded length = 68ft.).
It is entirely possible that Fractenna is staging an astonishing long-term
psychological experiment in trolling. If so, it is surely The Greatest Troll
Ever Told. For I have Trolled with the Masters in the likes of alt.slack and
rec.sport.football.college, and nothing in those high-strung newsgroups has
ever approached the relentlessness of l'affaire Fractenna. If this is true,
I salute you, Frac. You RAWK.
ELSE
Let me make one thing perfectly clear. I neither support nor condone any
credible threat against you or anyone. I would be horrified if any harm you
obviously fear would actually take place. I wish you and your family a long,
productive, and happy life.
BUT
If you are actually threatened by people on the net, engaging them on the
net is the ABSO-FSCKING-LUTELY WORST thing you could possibly do. It opens
you up for ridicule and skepticism from annoying but harmless wise guys like
me.
Put yourself in the position of an investigator trying to discern a
legitimate threat out of all what has been said by and about you here. This
is usenet, not a formal debating society. While there is no place for
serious personal threats here or anywhere, informality, hyperbole, and just
plain weirdness come with the package. It is what it is.
FWIW, consider this my last word on the subject of your safety and
well-being. From now on, I will assert my 1st Amendment right to be
brilliant, funny, serious, or dumber-than-nine-chickens. Selah.
73, Corry K4DOH
Fractenna
>well-being. From now on, I will assert my 1st Amendment right to be
>brilliant, funny, serious, or dumber-than-nine-chickens. Selah.
>
>73, Corry K4DOH
>
Thanks for your comments Corry;
I can see that you are sincere and being helpful and I am genuinely grateful
for your advice.
However--
Society does not stop on the NG. It is subject to the same rules and points of
law that we are subject to elsewhere.
I have no concern about 'dumb' comments, or anything else of that ilk. I DO
have concerns about the harassment , slander; defamation; and libel that has
occurred--with me made as the target-- and the latest era of genuinely
danger--motivated threats.
I disagree with you, respectfully. There is no reason why we should ACCEPT
such poor behavior when it is meant to harm.
I don't know what you mean by 'troll'. If, by this, you mean that I have been
dedicated to dissemnation of information, you are most certainly correct. But
its YOU--as a thinking and curious person--who makes that decision for him or
her self. I am by no means offended if fractal antennas aren't your cup of tea.
Whether or not you build a fractal antenna is up to you. I certainly do not
feel you should do so because I 'want' you to. You should do it because Corry
'wants' to.
Best 73,
Chip N1IR
Brian Kelly
>FWIW, consider this my last word on the subject of your safety and
>well-being. From now on, I will assert my 1st Amendment right to be
>brilliant, funny, serious, or dumber-than-nine-chickens. Selah.
>
>73, Corry K4DOH
>
A g5rv makes a helluva lot more sense than any "beams" for FD ops. In
their worst scenarios a g5rv is only around a half s-unit down from
any of these contraptions, no rotator, they work on all but 30m and
they're a lousy forty bucks and are much easier to put up and get
working.
>
w3rv
Fractenna
>their worst scenarios a g5rv is only around a half s-unit down from
>any of these contraptions, no rotator, they work on all but 30m and
>they're a lousy forty bucks and are much easier to put up and get
>working.
>>
>w3rv
>
halfwave'; which is a 'doglegged' vertical, with 50 ohm feed, and at least 3 dB
gain. It is bidirectional. Over real ground with circular radials, it actually
has some F/B. A regular vertical has an omni pattern.
Look at this as a vertical with a (horizontal) dipole like pattern and 3 plus
dB gain.
Cecil, W6RCA, had a description on his web page; I don't have the link but
perhaps he does.
73
Chip N1IR
W6RCecilA
> Cecil, W6RCA, had a description on his web page; I don't have the link but
> perhaps he does.
http://people.delphi.com/cecilmoore/fract20m.htm
--
73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca
Fractenna
Thanks Cecil!
73
Chip N1IR
Unclaimed Mysteries
Brian Kelly <ke...@dvol.com> wrote in message
news:38ec3e9a...@news.dvol.com...
> A g5rv makes a helluva lot more sense than any "beams" for FD ops. In
> their worst scenarios a g5rv is only around a half s-unit down from
> any of these contraptions, no rotator, they work on all but 30m and
> they're a lousy forty bucks and are much easier to put up and get
> working.
Often on the psk31 "water holes" signals are much less than 100Hz apart.
Nulling out an adjacent signal may be the only hope in some cases. I'd value
a pattern with deep sharp nulls over gain. Almost like a DF antenna. That
makes an easily rotatable antenna appealing. Upon further review, I'm
actually leaning toward a plain old dipole, as parasitic beams tend to fill
in the side nulls. Of course, I'm open to other ideas.
--
It came from C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/
Celebrating four years as part of the problem with the internet.
W6RCecilA
> I'm
> actually leaning toward a plain old dipole, as parasitic beams tend to fill
> in the side nulls. Of course, I'm open to other ideas.
My 33ft rotatable dipole is doing an excellent job on 20m-10m.
I've compared it to my 120ft center fed fixed doublet and the
rotatable dipole almost always beats it on 20m-10m. I feed it
with 300 ohm ladder-line and don't use a tuner.
Fractenna
Fact and nature are to be respected and viewed with a sense of wonder. But fear
is born from ignorance.
I promise to continue to provide accurate and timely information on antennas
Corry, despite any efforts on this NG to prevent that.
Best 73,
Chip N1IR
Brian Kelly
<k4...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>Often on the psk31 "water holes" signals are much less than 100Hz apart.
>Nulling out an adjacent signal may be the only hope in some cases.
>
>
>I'd value
>a pattern with deep sharp nulls over gain. Almost like a DF antenna. That
>actually leaning toward a plain old dipole, as parasitic beams tend to fill
>in the side nulls. Of course, I'm open to other ideas.
>
but they would have to physically separated to avoid interaction. Plus
stringing up two real, horizontal dipoles per band on FD sounds like a
lot of work and hardware, towers, poles, trees, etc.
>
I've developed a strong interest in the Hexbeams which are rotatable,
have decent F/B ratios and are compact and light and can be easy to
homebrew. I think they have a lot of potential for being more portable
and easier/quicker to put up than any other rotatable beam out here.
>--
>It came from C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
>http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/
>Celebrating four years as part of the problem with the internet.
>
James Chance
This is directed to Chip, no responses will be gotten from me except
as a response to a comment he might make. I hope none will be
necessary...
I have been watching the Fractenna threads in this newsgroup for well
over a year now. I've been to the Frac web site several times. It is
an excellent web site. While the theory/methods of calculation for the
dimensions may not be detailed, what do you expect for a family of
antennas going through the patent application process? What is there
is certainly sufficient for *any* shade-tree mechanic (much less
someone more technically inclined) to build the ten meter version
shown.
Why haven't some of you absolutely rabid Fractenna-raggers (and there
are a number of you) built one, evaluated it, compared it in ANY sort
of comparison with ANYTHING and then posted the results here. At least
three of you have expended more time at the keyboard beating on the
concept than it would require to actually construct the thing and try
it out...
The man has demonstrated many times over he knows a great deal about
his chosen focus. While I'm sure several of you "observes" also know a
great deal, if you are as knowledgeable as you appear, professional
courtesy and email exchanges would seem much more appropriate than
some of the tirades I've seen here...
Enough of the "ragger" bashing. Now, Chip, some comments for you...
>>
>>73, Corry K4DOH
>>
>
>Thanks for your comments Corry;
>
>I can see that you are sincere and being helpful and I am genuinely grateful
>for your advice.
>
>However--
>
>Society does not stop on the NG. It is subject to the same rules and points of
>law that we are subject to elsewhere.
>
In theory, absolutely not in practice. Usenet has been an absolute
free for all for years now...
<snip>
>
>I don't know what you mean by 'troll'. If, by this, you mean that I have been
>dedicated to dissemnation of information, you are most certainly correct. But
>its YOU--as a thinking and curious person--who makes that decision for him or
>her self. I am by no means offended if fractal antennas aren't your cup of tea.
Chip, if you don't know what a troll is, you never venture far from
this newsgroup. A troll is someone who delights in conflict. It
absolutely DOES NOT MATTER who is right or wrong, a troll will
disagree, and continue to escalate the conflict until the other party
refuses to respond. If the thread continues long enough, and if the
troll believes he is *losing* the exchange, he will enlist the help of
other trolls he's friends with, and initiate more malicious
internet-related things like hacking your end of the network,
denial-of-service attacks, etc.... I suppose bodily harm might enter
in there somewhere, but I've never heard of it happening (and some of
the other newsgroups trolls would definitely brag about it). An
accomplished troll will also cover his tracks thoroughly as far as
tracing him goes. Because of the way the tcp/ip protocol was designed,
being untraceable can be easily accomplished...
>
>Whether or not you build a fractal antenna is up to you. I certainly do not
>feel you should do so because I 'want' you to. You should do it because Corry
>'wants' to.
Perfectly put. Best of luck to you Chip, and PLEASE.... Thicken up
that skin of yours...
73,
Jim
N3TKD/5
Bill Aycock
motivation of the dear chipper. He IS well known, internationally, but
the reputation is not neccesarily for technical achievement.
BTW- your last sentence in hilarious.- good job!
Bill- W4BSG
K1BQT
>Why haven't some of you absolutely rabid Fractenna-raggers (and there
>are a number of you) built one, evaluated it, compared it in ANY sort
>of comparison with ANYTHING and then posted the results here.
What makes you think no one ever has? I've built several of Chip's
designs--going back over 3 years ago, and so have others. Why don't you build
a few and evaluate them for yourself? If you're competent and evaluate them
carefully, you'll be able to draw your own conclusions and transcend the
rhetoric.
Rick K1BQT
Fractenna
>as a response to a comment he might make. I hope none will be
>necessary...
>
>I have been watching the Fractenna threads in this newsgroup for well
>over a year now. I've been to the Frac web site several times. It is
>an excellent web site. While the theory/methods of calculation for the
>dimensions may not be detailed, what do you expect for a family of
>antennas going through the patent application process? What is there
>is certainly sufficient for *any* shade-tree mechanic (much less
>someone more technically inclined) to build the ten meter version
>shown.
>
>are a number of you) built one, evaluated it, compared it in ANY sort
No; I am not aware of these destructive 'trolls' and most certainly am not
one:-) If you check, you will see that this is the predominant NG to which I
have posted through the years.
None of the individuals you refer to has built any but the simplest of antenna
designs I have published in the ham magazines in the last few years. The FQY is
not in that category.
You know, there is another side of this: e-mail. I get lots of e-mail from
people who are fed up with the rantings on this NG --but want to know more
about fractal antennas. I help them when I have time, and also steer them
towards references, lists, and so on. In other words, the malcontents treat
this NG like its a private bulletin board, when, in fact, it is a widely read
--global-- medium. They have no idea who the readership is, and act as if they
don't exist.
I, for one, have deep respect for the curiosity and smarts of the people who
read this NG, and their questions and growth gives me a very good feeling.
Vy 73 OM!
Chip N1IR
Fractenna
>motivation of the dear chipper
Well, go ahead and discuss said accomplishments and motivations if you wish.
I am a firm believer of 'say what you mean and mean what you say'. Tell us how
I have been otherwise.
73,
Chip N1IR
Tom W8JI
How weird.
Moon must be full.
James Chance
wrote:
Hello Tom,
You using several different news accounts or something? Your
origination headers are vastly different in your various postings....
James Chance
wrote:
>Jim- you are incredibly naive about both the accomplishments and
>motivation of the dear chipper. He IS well known, internationally, but
>the reputation is not neccesarily for technical achievement.
>
>BTW- your last sentence in hilarious.- good job!
>
Hmmmm..... Could be.... The post was only prompted by my past personal
relationships with "ivory tower" academic personalities (in-laws and
other relatives), and how these people behaved on occasion.
Oh, for the days of fidonet, and feeds being cut because of wasted
bandwidth!
73's,
Jim
N3TKD
James Chance
wrote:
>Jim- you are incredibly naive about both the accomplishments and
>motivation of the dear chipper. He IS well known, internationally, but
>the reputation is not neccesarily for technical achievement.
>
>BTW- your last sentence in hilarious.- good job!
>
>Bill- W4BSG
>
Well Bill, I apologize to the group... I've never taken a complete
look at the headers of the various posters in these threads before
tonight. At first glance, it appears Chip may be the troll here, as
the Fractenna messages take quite a complex route before being posted.
Cohendog's messages take a similar route with a change I've seen
before. Guess I'll have to take a look at the next one I see Phil
posting and see how it compares...
Jim
N3TKD
Tom W8JI
wrote:
>Well Bill, I apologize to the group... I've never taken a complete
>look at the headers of the various posters in these threads before
>tonight. At first glance, it appears Chip may be the troll here, as
>the Fractenna messages take quite a complex route before being posted.
>Cohendog's messages take a similar route with a change I've seen
>before. Guess I'll have to take a look at the next one I see Phil
>posting and see how it compares...
>
>Jim
>N3TKD
Cohendog, Chip, Nathan Cohen pHd, Beth, Hy, Phil, Jay-pole and a few
other all have the same AOL routing, although the path to Internet
from AOL varies.
As a matter of fact, Phil posts only through the Fractenna AOL screen
name...which is the same as Chip's, Hy's, Beth's, Nthans, and the rest
screen name.
Frankly, I was amazed to see someone who supports "Chip's" behavior
(you) who does not come from the same AOL routing.
James Chance
wrote:
>Cohendog, Chip, Nathan Cohen pHd, Beth, Hy, Phil, Jay-pole and a few
>other all have the same AOL routing, although the path to Internet
>from AOL varies.
>
>As a matter of fact, Phil posts only through the Fractenna AOL screen
>name...which is the same as Chip's, Hy's, Beth's, Nthans, and the rest
>screen name.
>
>Frankly, I was amazed to see someone who supports "Chip's" behavior
>(you) who does not come from the same AOL routing.
>
>
Also frankly, I am absolutely amazed that someone who is operating a
business can be exhibiting this bizarre behavior. I've known a couple
of strange PhD's, but nothing compares to this. I apologize to you for
another message speculating you might be the troll. Fractenna is now
in the kill file...
Jim
N3TKD
Anthony R. Gold
<MPG.136b41d2e...@news.easynews.com>
mou...@cybercom.fr "Gilbert Mouget" wrote:
> James be carefull. Dr Fractenna thinks it is a real death threat
> to be in the kill file.
Then he has been massacred by the readers of this newsgroup.
Regards,
--
Tony - G3SKR / W2TG email: tg...@panix.com
Fractenna
>
>Regards,
>--
> Tony - G3SKR / W2TG
I do remember your early efforts in that regard Mr. Gold, but to quote Elton
John: "I'm Still Standing". In fact, we've seen a rather refreshing abence of
abuse in the last few days. Did you feel obligated to continue the abuse
instead?
I can see efforts of recent days will have to be brought to closure.
NC
Anthony R. Gold
<20000427053804...@ng-fu1.aol.com>
frac...@aol.com "Fractenna" wrote:
> >Then he has been massacred by the readers of this newsgroup.
>
> I do remember your early efforts in that regard Mr. Gold, but to quote Elton
> John: "I'm Still Standing". In fact, we've seen a rather refreshing abence of
> abuse in the last few days. Did you feel obligated to continue the abuse
> instead?
I observed that many people have kill-filed you. I believe that is
accurate, and also I believe that it was expressed politely.
Would Dr. Cohen care to define "abuse", if he sees any in my postings?
I saw your attempt to define "plane" in another thread and you failed
badly with that word. And there again, I believe that what I wrote
was both accurate and polite, although I'll be happy to hear if and
why you disagree with my belief.
Regards,
--
Tony - G3SKR / W2TG email: tg...@panix.com
Fractenna
>accurate, and also I believe that it was expressed politely.
>
>Would Dr. Cohen care to define "abuse", if he sees any in my postings?
>
>I saw your attempt to define "plane" in another thread and you failed
>badly with that word.
I did? See my response .
And there again, I believe that what I wrote
>was both accurate and polite, although I'll be happy to hear if and
>why you disagree with my belief.
>
Massacred implies 'wiped out'. In fact, there are a few vocal individuals who
have expressed their opinion by doing what you say.
However--
Again, this is NOT a private bulletin board. This NG is read by thousands of
people, a vast majority of which do not post.
I did a rough count last summer and had over 600 emails in 3 years from people
who had read my posts on the NG --but whose calls I never saw before.
I still get many, many emails--many from students--who have read the posts and
had questions.
Also, even if you exclude my responses, the aggregate fractal threads are
easily the most popular on this NG. So there is lots of interest, and you only
see a small fraction of it.
I hope we are entering a transition on this NG where it TRULY is a global media
for NEWS.I expect you share with me the expectation that private abuse,
harassment, and attack, are on their way out--''massacred' as you say:-)
73
Chip N1IR
Anthony R. Gold
<20000428080327...@ng-ce1.aol.com>
frac...@aol.com "Fractenna" wrote:
> >I observed that many people have kill-filed you. I believe that is
> >accurate, and also I believe that it was expressed politely.
> >
> >Would Dr. Cohen care to define "abuse", if he sees any in my postings?
Please answer this question, as it related to my posting.
> Massacred implies 'wiped out'. In fact, there are a few vocal individuals who
> have expressed their opinion by doing what you say.
>
> However--
>
> Again, this is NOT a private bulletin board. This NG is read by thousands of
> people, a vast majority of which do not post.
>
> I did a rough count last summer and had over 600 emails in 3 years from people
> who had read my posts on the NG --but whose calls I never saw before.
>
> I still get many, many emails--many from students--who have read the posts and
> had questions.
>
> Also, even if you exclude my responses, the aggregate fractal threads are
> easily the most popular on this NG. So there is lots of interest, and you only
> see a small fraction of it.
That only means that you disagree with me about the extent of kill-
filing of your posts. Please explain why you found the posting, with
which which you and others are free to agree or disagree, abusive?
Is disagreeable the same as abusive in Fractenna-land?
That implies that skin in Fractenna-land grows as thin as a plane :-)
Lumpy
> That implies that skin in Fractenna-land
> grows as thin as a plane :-)
You're correct there Anthony. Frac needs attention
but he's easily hurt.
I'm humored by Chip's comment -
"the aggregate fractal threads are
easily the most popular on this NG"
Absolutely. Very popular. Of course they have
literally nothing to do with antennas.
lumpy ab0gd
fract...@gmail.com
> >FWIW, consider this my last word on the subject of your safety and
> >well-being. From now on, I will assert my 1st Amendment right to be
> >brilliant, funny, serious, or dumber-than-nine-chickens. Selah.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks for your comments Corry;
>
> I can see that you are sincere and being helpful and I am genuinely grateful
> for your advice.
>
> However--
>
> Society does not stop on the NG. It is subject to the same rules and points of
> law that we are subject to elsewhere.
>
> have concerns about the harassment , slander; defamation; and libel that has
> occurred--with me made as the target-- and the latest era of genuinely
> danger--motivated threats.
>
> I disagree with you, respectfully. There is no reason why we should ACCEPT
> such poor behavior when it is meant to harm.
> I don't know what you mean by 'troll'. If, by this, you mean that I have been
> dedicated to dissemnation of information, you are most certainly correct. But
> its YOU--as a thinking and curious person--who makes that decision for him or
> her self. I am by no means offended if fractal antennas aren't your cup of tea.
>
> feel you should do so because I 'want' you to. You should do it because Corry
> 'wants' to.
>
> Chip N1IR
This response proves as pertinent today as the day it was said.
rickman
wasn't about the crap in the newsgroup rather than anything on topic.
At this point his posts complaining about the crap in the group have
become part of the crap in the group.
Apparently without posting anything in a *long* time, he was resurrected
by a single mention of his first name. Wow! Beetlejuice has nothing on
him. I'm not sure Gareth does either.
--
Rick C
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
--
Jim Pennino
fract...@gmail.com
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
BTW, I am not 72 years old and there is more than one Jim Pennino in the USA.
--
Jim Pennino
rickman
>
> Thanks for showing your cyberbully core, to the future, Jim. This person is 72 year old Jim Pennino , ARS callsign (2017) WB6DKH. You can trace his history of statements.
can say you are not participating by replying to every stupid post he
makes to you.
You have the ability to just ignore him you know.
--
Rick C
fract...@gmail.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm6ou5FLWfs
With Best Regards,
Nathan Cohen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm6ou5FLWfs
fract...@gmail.com
?
rickman
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 4:52:55 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
>> On 4/26/2017 4:27 PM, fract...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for showing your cyberbully core, to the future, Jim. This person is 72 year old Jim Pennino , ARS callsign (2017) WB6DKH. You can trace his history of statements.
>>
>> Jim is clearly a jerk and only here for the drama, but I don't think you
>> can say you are not participating by replying to every stupid post he
>> makes to you.
>>
>> You have the ability to just ignore him you know.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C
>
> Obviously I have articulated my motivation yesterday
archiving doesn't work. Its CYBERBULLYING. I am a very sane person with
resources behind me. I am in a position to stop it. "
But so far I have only seen a bunch of irrational posts in reply to the
ignorant posts of others.
Your continued replies to stupid posts only serves to make you look
worse. At this point I think you are as bad as Jim and only here for
the drama. Certainly you aren't doing any good for fractal antennas.
--
Rick C
fract...@gmail.com
Your birthdate is: Sept 11, 1945 That makes you 71 1/2 + years old. You are the James Pennino who lives at:
7741 Lockhaven Court
Rancho Cucamonga, California.
This is from publicly info provided by the government, publicly. I just want to be sure our future readers know the exact Jim Pennino who is commenting, as you are stressing ambiguity in this regard.
Best Wishes,
Nathan Cohen
fract...@gmail.com
Both fractal antennas, and I, are doing very well, thank you!:-)
I did fractal antennas a big favor (since you insist in anthropomorphizing them)by debunking a nonsense set of claims. I thought you might enjoy this video and how skepticism thus works with science to vanquish silly claims--in this case that fractal antennas don't work as well or better.
Enjoy my friend!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK9MgKck0z0&t=2s
Best,
Nathan Cohen
rickman
increasingly irrational posts here. I see you are now posting
information about Jim for an unknown reason.
I believe you are pretty nuts. Clearly you don't respond to reason. I
think I'm done responding to you.
--
Rick C
fract...@gmail.com
Have we sufficiently resolved the issue of which Jim Pennino is commenting? Is any of the demographic info factually in error?
Perhaps, to further understand your perspective, readers might wish to know your education and technical background. Could you be so kind as to provide that?
Best,
Nathan Cohen
fract...@gmail.com
Again, thanks for your comments.
Its always helpful for those who are trying to learn, to understand the background and perspective of others. Surely you understand that.
I do suspect that others will be puzzled by your accusation of mental issues, especially since I have none; have no demonstrable medical history of mental illness; am a fine, happy, and productive member of society; take no drugs or medications (pretty good for 62!);and enjoy the company of others.
Stop and be friendly (to borrow from Steven Spielberg).:-)
fract...@gmail.com
I do not know who this 'Gareth' is. Should I? You make it sound like I am supposed to regard him with disdain.
Before I inherit that opinion of Mr. Gareth,what, exactly is the factually verifiable transgression or transgressions this person allegedly inveighed against others?
Why is it pertinent or relevant to compare me to this 'Gareth'?
Is he a radio astronomer?
A Ph.D.?
An entrepreneur?
An inventor?
An antenna expert?
Please tell us how the two of us have commonalities.
Your friend,
Nathan Cohen
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
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Jim Pennino
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
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Jim Pennino
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
Hope that helps.
Of course you could always do a web search as you no doubt did with me,
drooling and mumbling to yourself how you will show everyone.
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Jim Pennino
fract...@gmail.com
At 62 I still harbor a little bit of immaturity, manifest as the joy and curiosity of the young. And I do hope to hold onto it, with luck, until I reach your age (71 1/2) or longer. It is so sad to find others in the glass coffin of hate and bitterness. I hope I never get there.
I am sorry that the joy of discovery and the company of friends is no longer, it would seem, able to bring you happiness. But I wish you the best in each tomorrow that follows.
Remember: the sun is but a morning star!
Your friend,
Nathan Cohen
fract...@gmail.com
fract...@gmail.com
I would like to understand you better.
We know you are 71 1/2, and enjoy antenna experimentation.
Can you tell us a little bit about your technical background?
Your friend,
Chip
fract...@gmail.com
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> Jim Pennino
Friend Jim,
There is only one person here, big fella!
Or did you mean that I was 'emotionally immature' --and-- 'something else'?
Your friend,
Chip
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
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Jim Pennino
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
--
Jim Pennino
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
--
Jim Pennino
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
--
Jim Pennino
fract...@gmail.com
fract...@gmail.com
Yes friend Jim, many human beings do have progeny. That is how the species continues. That is correct.
Do your children speak to you, friend Jim?
I just had a marvelous discussion with my child, friend Jim. We actually talked about... ANTENNAS!
He is very excited about my patent that issues next week on 'superscatterers'. These are special fractal antennas/structures that scatter so that they have a radar cross section much bigger than their physical size. Mie or Rayleigh :-)?
What do you discuss with your child? Is he or she...what...six?
If you want to share a topic with your child, I can provide you that new patent number, for example.
rickman
seeing a never ending echo of themselves... You two are a matched pair.
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Rick C
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 11:01:09 PM UTC-4, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> fract...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 7:31:07 PM UTC-4, ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> You are both emotionally immature in your dealings with others.
>> >>
>> >> Hope that helps.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jim Pennino
>> >
>> > Friend Jim,
>> >
>> > There is only one person here, big fella!
>> >
>> > Or did you mean that I was 'emotionally immature' --and-- 'something else'?
>> >
>> > Your friend,
>> > Chip
>>
>> You asked what you had in common with someone else and I replied child.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>
> You mean that our colleague 'Gareth' has a child?
<snip remaining puerile babble>
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Jim Pennino
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
sense these days I use an antenna simulator.
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Jim Pennino
fract...@gmail.com
DO you actually build antennas Jim? WHat was the last antenna you built and installed?
Why be unfriendly, friend Jim? Is this a age related issue (You are 71 1/2 )?
fract...@gmail.com
Your party line is not private, not ephemeral, and will outlive your input into it. So why not understand that, and be friendly?
rickman
Your friend,
--
Rick C
fract...@gmail.com
What was true 17 years ago is still true today.
Best,
Nathan Cohen
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
fract...@gmail.com
I am puzzled why you think I am mentally deficient; my IQ is 152 sir. Surely you are aware that idiocy is defined at a far lower level. For example, it is more at the IQ value of 71 1/2, which, by coincidence, is the number corresponding to your age.
WHy, friend Jim, do you feel compelled to disparage me in this way? It is CYBERBULLYING.
ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com
English involved, it is a common name for electromagnetic simulation software.
> I am puzzled why you think I am mentally deficient;
fract...@gmail.com
I will pray for you.
Your friend,
Chip
fract...@gmail.com
> I've been to www.fractenna.com
> and seen a content-rich web site put together by what seems to a group of
> reasonable people.
> 73, Corry K4DOH
As Corry pointed out 17 years ago--and as Google continues to list as contemporary placement-- my colleagues and I are indeed reasonable people.
Over the 17 years--with Google still actively reminding us-- the team at fractenna has seen an astonishing adoption of our fractal antenna technology, played out as a classic paradigm shift in the antenna field. We are proud to service our many, many customers and proud of the benefit our products and inventions have brought,world wide.
Enjoying the success of this bold endeavor in innovation, I want others to know I am doing very well(having the time of my life!)and thanks all who had positive feedback and objective queries through the years.
Don't let the batards getya down:-)
Best to all,
Nathan Cohen (Chip W1YW)