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Stephen

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Nov 4, 2002, 9:56:21 AM11/4/02
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Just been sent this :-

Without move to a different line, what is the longest word that can be typed

on a single line.

Example :-

dash on the second line, wort on the top line.

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QuickDraw

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:08:28 AM11/4/02
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> Without move to a different line, what is the longest word that can be
typed
>
> on a single line.

i believe "typewriter" is the longest........


Stephen

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:31:51 AM11/4/02
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Well that was short and sweet.

Stephen


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James Squires

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:53:12 AM11/4/02
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There's also perpetuity on the top line
10 letters - same as typewriter

James

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st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:49:51 AM11/4/02
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In article <aq62hd$ce1$1...@athena.ukc.ac.uk>,

Not on proprietory keyboards like DVORAK

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James Squires

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:53:53 AM11/4/02
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and proprietor and repertoire

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Ben Zimmer

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st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk wrote:
>
> In article <aq62hd$ce1$1...@athena.ukc.ac.uk>,
> "QuickDraw" <ld...@ukc.ac.uk> writes:
> >> Without move to a different line, what is the longest word that can be
> >typed
> >>
> >> on a single line.
> >
> >i believe "typewriter" is the longest........
>
> Not on proprietory keyboards like DVORAK

Even better: TEETERTOTTER

See Jeff Miller's "Collection of Word Oddities and Trivia" for more:
http://members.aol.com/gulfhigh2/words8.html

Richard Heathfield

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Nov 4, 2002, 12:50:44 PM11/4/02
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Ben Zimmer wrote:
>
> st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk wrote:
> >
> > In article <aq62hd$ce1$1...@athena.ukc.ac.uk>,
> > "QuickDraw" <ld...@ukc.ac.uk> writes:
> > >> Without move to a different line, what is the longest word that can be
> > >typed
> > >>
> > >> on a single line.
> > >
> > >i believe "typewriter" is the longest........
> >
> > Not on proprietory keyboards like DVORAK
>
> Even better: TEETERTOTTER

SHALALALALA (from "Yesterday Once More" by The Carpenters) gives us a
non-top-line candidate, with eleven.

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JB

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Nov 4, 2002, 2:41:53 PM11/4/02
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Okay no offense, but that was a reach <g>

mensanator

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Nov 4, 2002, 3:42:39 PM11/4/02
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Ben Zimmer <bgzi...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote in message news:<3DC697E3...@midway.uchicago.edu>...

> st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk wrote:
> >
> > In article <aq62hd$ce1$1...@athena.ukc.ac.uk>,
> > "QuickDraw" <ld...@ukc.ac.uk> writes:
> > >> Without move to a different line, what is the longest word that can be
> typed
> > >>
> > >> on a single line.
> > >
> > >i believe "typewriter" is the longest........
> >
> > Not on proprietory keyboards like DVORAK
>
> Even better: TEETERTOTTER

Sorry, but "TEETER-TOTTER" is a hyphenated word and thus requires two
lines from the keyboard.

other length 10 words: pepperwort, perruquier and pirouetter

length 11: rupturewort

ObPuzzle: what's the longest word you can make on the "asdfghjkl"
line?

Richard Heathfield

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Nov 4, 2002, 4:53:18 PM11/4/02
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mensanator wrote:
>
<snip>

>
> ObPuzzle: what's the longest word you can make on the "asdfghjkl"
> line?

If you don't count "shalalalala" :-) then the best I could come up with
was "alfalfa" for seven.

Mike Keith

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Nov 4, 2002, 5:31:45 PM11/4/02
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>ObPuzzle: what's the longest word you can make on the "asdfghjkl"
>line?
>

NI3 (Webster's 3rd New Int'l Unabridged) has "shakalshas" (10). Don't know of
a longer one.


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tonyp

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Nov 4, 2002, 10:26:30 PM11/4/02
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"Stephen" <stephen.est...@icl.com> wrote

> Well that was short and sweet.
>
> Stephen


What's the longest word you can type by moving only between adjacent
keys? By "adjacent", I mean horizontally, vertically, or diagonally
next to each other. Let's assert that repetitions and backtracking
are OK.

-- TP

Ben Zimmer

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Nov 5, 2002, 12:26:03 AM11/5/02
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Mike Keith wrote:
>
> >ObPuzzle: what's the longest word you can make on the "asdfghjkl"
> >line?
> >
>
> NI3 (Webster's 3rd New Int'l Unabridged) has "shakalshas" (10). Don't know of
> a longer one.

Well, NI3 has "Shakalsha" (a people emigrating from Phrygia and
colonizing Sicily in early times), but I'm not sure if "Shakalshas" is
legitimate since "Shakalsha" can already be construed as plural. For
instance, the online text of "Egyptian Myth and Legend" by Donald
Mackenzie (1907) has: "It is possible that the Shakalsha were the people
who gave their name to Sicily, and that they and the Tursha were kinsmen
of the Lycians." <http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/eml/eml38.htm>

OED has "gallaglass" as a variant of "galloglass" ("one of a particular
class of soldiers or retainers formerly maintained by Irish chiefs").

You can also get to 10 letters by pluralizing family names, like
"Glassgalls" or "Fadlallahs". Here's an article about "the Fadlallahs
of Dearborn": <http://www.freep.com/news/locway/wfam27_20011227.htm>

Mensanator

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Nov 5, 2002, 1:26:35 AM11/5/02
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>Subject: Re: Longest (connected) word on a keyboard?
>From: "tonyp" to...@world.std.com
>Date: 11/4/2002 9:26 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <aq7dp5$pbb$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>

Ok, I'll assume each letter has at most 6 adjacent valid keys. For instance,
from "d" the next letter could be "s", "e", "r", "f", "c" or "x". And of
course, we also repeat "d".

That assumption gives us:

redressed
redresser
redresses
seeresses

>
>-- TP

James Squires

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Nov 5, 2002, 3:01:06 AM11/5/02
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Seesawed?

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James Squires

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Nov 5, 2002, 3:02:20 AM11/5/02
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In fact will anyone let me away with reseesawed?!

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Ben Zimmer

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Nov 5, 2002, 2:59:06 AM11/5/02
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From NI2 and OED:

assertresses
desertresses

Mike Keith

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Nov 5, 2002, 3:06:20 AM11/5/02
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> Ben Zimmer wrote:
>
>>Mike Keith wrote:
>>
>> >ObPuzzle: what's the longest word you can make on the "asdfghjkl"
>> >line?
>> >
>>
>> NI3 (Webster's 3rd New Int'l Unabridged) has "shakalshas" (10). Don't know
>of
>> a longer one.
>
>Well, NI3 has "Shakalsha" (a people emigrating from Phrygia and
>colonizing Sicily in early times), but I'm not sure if "Shakalshas" is
>legitimate since "Shakalsha" can already be construed as plural.

You seem to be saying that "Shakalshas" isn't in NI3, and that I just inferred
that the plural form is legitimate. But that's not true - "Shakalshas" is
right there under the entry for "Shakalsha", as one of the two plural forms
allowed (it's the second one listed, and therefore probably the less preferred
one).

You're right, its legitimacy might be a bit shaky, but I was just reporting
what's listed in NI3.

Gerrit de Blaauw

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Nov 5, 2002, 4:04:09 AM11/5/02
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Ben Zimmer wrote:

> > redressed
> > redresser
> > redresses
> > seeresses
>
> From NI2 and OED:
>
> assertresses
> desertresses

Dutch "redresseerder" (= redresser) has one letter more (13). It's about
as popular as "assertresses" ;)

st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk

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Nov 5, 2002, 4:26:16 AM11/5/02
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In article <3DC6B374...@eton.powernet.co.uk>,
Richard Heathfield <bin...@eton.powernet.co.uk> writes:
...

>SHALALALALA (from "Yesterday Once More" by The Carpenters) gives us a
>non-top-line candidate, with eleven.

In that case, the winner is clearly the answer to the old riddle
"What's a 13-letter word, beginning & ending with N, and meaning
constipation?"

Ans (rot-13 :-): "AAAAAAAAAAAAA"

Mensanator

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Nov 5, 2002, 9:54:35 AM11/5/02
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>Subject: Re: Longest (connected) word on a keyboard?
>From: Ben Zimmer bgzi...@midway.uchicago.edu
>Date: 11/5/2002 1:59 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <3DC77A4A...@midway.uchicago.edu>

Damn, my UK Applied Cryptics Dictionary is letting me down.

Andrew Krywaniuk

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Nov 5, 2002, 3:27:25 PM11/5/02
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> What's the longest word you can type by moving only between adjacent
> keys? By "adjacent", I mean horizontally, vertically, or diagonally
> next to each other. Let's assert that repetitions and backtracking
> are OK.

Tough one. I use Dvorak, and I can't even beat 3... (nth, kid, fix)

With QWERTY, I can get 5 (sawer), or 7 (resawer) if you want to stretch it.

Andrew

Andrew Krywaniuk

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Nov 6, 2002, 2:07:32 AM11/6/02
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andrew.k...@alcatel.com (Andrew Krywaniuk) wrote in message news:<922f8d91.02110...@posting.google.com>...

Hmmm... I knew we were allowed to repeat letters, but I didn't think
we were allowed to use the same letter twice consecutively. Shouldn't
you then state that every letter is adjacent to itsself?

Andrew

Art Neuendorffer

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Nov 15, 2002, 7:56:35 PM11/15/02
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>>ObPuzzle:
>> what's the longest word you can make on the "asdfghjkl" line?

Mike Keith wrote:

> NI3 (Webster's 3rd New Int'l Unabridged) has "shakalshas" (10).

Is there a 10 letter word one can make using
only the *consonants* on the "zxcvbnm" line
(plus *any vowels*)?

Art Neuendorffer

Mark Brader

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Nov 15, 2002, 10:21:04 PM11/15/02
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Art Neuendorffer writes:
> Is there a 10 letter word one can make using only the *consonants*
> on the "zxcvbnm" line (plus *any vowels*)?

I was too lazy to think about this for long, so I tried a computer
search. I should have kept thinking -- never mind 10 letters, there's
a *13*-letter solution among everyday language.

(The longest word that the search found was "aminoazobenzene" --
15 letters. But I think we can ignore that one.)
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Ben Zimmer

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Nov 17, 2002, 8:50:37 AM11/17/02
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Mark Brader wrote:
>
> Art Neuendorffer writes:
> > Is there a 10 letter word one can make using only the *consonants*
> > on the "zxcvbnm" line (plus *any vowels*)?
>
> I was too lazy to think about this for long, so I tried a computer
> search. I should have kept thinking -- never mind 10 letters, there's
> a *13*-letter solution among everyday language.
>
> (The longest word that the search found was "aminoazobenzene" --
> 15 letters. But I think we can ignore that one.)

inconvenience?

Stephan Bird

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Nov 17, 2002, 11:19:34 AM11/17/02
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In article <AQiB9.506$sF6.11...@news.nnrp.ca>, m...@vex.net wrote

> Art Neuendorffer writes:
> > Is there a 10 letter word one can make using only the *consonants*
> > on the "zxcvbnm" line (plus *any vowels*)?
>
> I was too lazy to think about this for long, so I tried a computer
> search. I should have kept thinking -- never mind 10 letters, there's
> a *13*-letter solution among everyday language.
>
> (The longest word that the search found was "aminoazobenzene" --
> 15 letters. But I think we can ignore that one.)

Why "can we ignore it"? ;) How does...

monoazobenzeneammonium

sound? It's perhaps a little bit convoluted, but it's a possible. I'll
try and draw a structure later for it.. H3N(+)C6H4N=NPh I think

or maybe

monoazabenzeneammonium

(probably better named as a pyridineammonium ion.., H3N{+}C5H4N)

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Bob Pease

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BiAminoazobenzene?

McAminoazobenzene?
(Generic )

ExMcBiAminoazobenzene?

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Bob Pease

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"Stephan Bird" <stephan...@mad.scientist.comREMOVE> wrote in message
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Would

monoazadibenzeneammonium
be possible?

It seems like Novocain has great possibilities

RJ Pease

Art Neuendorffer

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> "QuickDraw" <ld...@ukc.ac.uk> writes:
>
>>>Without move to a different line, what is the longest word
>>> that can be typed on a single line.
>>
>>i believe "typewriter" is the longest........

st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk wrote:

> Not on proprietory keyboards like DVORAK

"proprietory" => an inside joke? ;-)
------------------------------------------------------
rec.puzzles archive /Typewriter :

longest top row proprietorier (13,1) !
longest middle row shakalshas (10,1)
longest in order QWERTYs wettish (7,2)
longest in reverse order bourree chapote chappie chappow gouttee (7,5)
longest left hand bescatteredest ebracteatedest
extravertedest vertebratedest (14,4)
longest right hand hypolimnion kinnikinnik (11,2)
longest alternating hands leucocytozoans (14,1)
longest one finger deeded humhum hummum muhuhu muumuu (6,5)
longest adjacent keys assessees dresseder redressed redresser
redresses seeresses sweeswees tresseder (9,8)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Art Neuendorffer

Stephan Bird

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In article <ar8gq8$g...@dispatch.concentric.net>,
bobp...@concentric.net wrote

> "Stephan Bird" <stephan...@mad.scientist.comREMOVE> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1841d1ee7...@news.freeserve.com...
> > In article <AQiB9.506$sF6.11...@news.nnrp.ca>, m...@vex.net wrote
> > > (The longest word that the search found was "aminoazobenzene" --
> > > 15 letters. But I think we can ignore that one.)
> >
> > Why "can we ignore it"? ;) How does...
> >
> > monoazobenzeneammonium
> >
> > sound? It's perhaps a little bit convoluted, but it's a possible. I'll
> > try and draw a structure later for it.. H3N(+)C6H4N=NPh I think
> >
> > or maybe
> >
> > monoazabenzeneammonium
> >
> > (probably better named as a pyridineammonium ion.., H3N{+}C5H4N)
>
> Would
>
> monoazadibenzeneammonium
> be possible?

As a chemical name, fine, however in terms of the puzzle, not so :( We
had to use vowels and the bottom row of letters of the qwerty
keyboard, hence "d" is out. The alternative monoaza*b*ibenzeneammonium
would be fine in terms of the puzzle, but bi- as a prefix isn't really
IUPAC or CAS nomenclature as far as I understand it *in this* context.
Azobenzene *is* PhN=NPh (there's no indicator per se that there's two
phenyl rings) so perhaps monoazabenzene[b/d]iammonium?? ( C5H3N with
two pendant [NH3]+ s??)



> It seems like Novocain has great possibilities

As does the more common (to my eyes/ears) spelling with an "e" on the
end, or did you miss that on purpose so as not to alert the 'net
police :) c.f. e.g. the song by the Eels - "N for the soul", or also
the topical anaesthetic benzocaine.

Alan Eliasen

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I have some longer ones, and several that weren't listed.

Art Neuendorffer wrote:
> rec.puzzles archive /Typewriter :

> longest in order QWERTYs wettish (7,2)

How about weerish? (7)

> longest in reverse order bourree chapote chappie chappow gouttee (7,5)

Let's add sautree. (7)

> longest left hand bescatteredest ebracteatedest
> extravertedest vertebratedest (14,4)

Also tesseradecades and aftercataracts. (both 14 also)

> longest right hand hypolimnion kinnikinnik (11,2)

Let's add:
phyllophyllin (13) (longer)
hypophyllium (12) (longer)
miminypiminy (12) (longer)
hypophyllum (11)
polyphonium (11)

> longest alternating hands leucocytozoans (14,1)

antiskepticism (14)

These were all found through plugging Perl 5 regular expressions
into my word search program:

http://futureboy.homeip.net/lookup/lookup.pl

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