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Latchstring. 6. :)
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volleyball team named Bob Ctvrtlik (stuh-VERT-lick), which has 6.
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you cannot just wake up and say, "today i think i'll consider y a consonant".
in any given word, y is either definitely a consonant or definitely a vowel,
depending on the word. in all words that you suggest above, it is a vowel.
bob vesterman.
This question is in the rec.puzzles archive:
==> language/english/spelling/single.words.p <==
What words have exceptional lengths, patterns, etc.?
==> language/english/spelling/single.words.s <==
[snip snip]
Consonants
longest consonant string bergschrund bergschrunds catchphrase catchphrases eschscholtzia eschscholtzias festschrift festschriften festschrifts goldschmidtine ... (6,27)
[snip snip]
Omitting plurals, the complete list of words from Webster's Third is:
bergschrund
catchphrase
eschscholtzia
festschrift
goldschmidtine
goldschmidtite
lachsschinken
latchstring
mischsprache
nachschlag
promptscript
weltschmerz
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: Find all the words in the English language that have the MOST CONSECUTIVE
I can do not better, but same. 'syndrome'
Don't listen to those idiots who say that 'y' is a vowel. They're losers.
As a matter of fact, I hear tell that even 'w' can be a vowel. As
in "how". But I am not a linguist (or whatever).
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WELL IN THAT CASE, Y ask Y?
I will stick with nonrhythmic HEHEHEHE
(even if y is a vowel, it looks cool)
Philip Sherman (aka Pokey)
drys...@ursa.calvin.edu (David Rysdam) speculated:
> I can do not better, but same. 'syndrome'
> Don't listen to those idiots who say that 'y' is a vowel. They're losers.
NO I DID NOT!!!!!
Well there's "polyrhythms" with 9, if you count y as a consonant.
Yes, it's a real word -- ask a music student in an advanced
ear-training class. But this is bogus, because your ear will
tell you that in this word both y's are clearly acting as vowels.
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As a matter of fact, I hear tell that even 'w' can be a vowel. As
in "how". But I am not a linguist (or whatever).
i didn't know the w in "how" was a vowel. but the one in "cwm" is.
(we do, after all, call it a "double u".)
(it gets great attention pronouncing X window manager names - twm, tvtwm,
olwm, NCDwm, mwm...)
synchronous 6
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In article <DRYSDA02.9...@ursa.calvin.edu> drys...@ursa.calvin.edu (David Rysdam) writes:
As a matter of fact, I hear tell that even 'w' can be a vowel. As
in "how". But I am not a linguist (or whatever).
i didn't know the w in "how" was a vowel. but the one in "cwm" is.
(we do, after all, call it a "double u".)
Cwm! That's the word I was trying to think of. "A mountain hollow", is
it not? In any case, yes, I believe that 'w' is a vowel in "how".
(it gets great attention pronouncing X window manager names - twm, tvtwm,
olwm, NCDwm, mwm...)
How would it help with NCDwm? Nickduhoom?
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though there are a few evil mutant words like "cwm" and "crwd" wherein
"w" is the vowel sound "oo", the rule "a,e,i,o,u, sometimes y and w"
(which is often shortened to "a,e,i,o,u, sometimes y") in fact is
refering to nice friendly words like "how". the "ow" sound is a dipthong...
two vowels slid together. it is easier to see that "w" is a vowel here
if you realize that you pronounce "how" the same way you would pronounce
"hau" - you're sliding "ah" and "oo" together.
it is certainly not a consonant there - you don't say "ha-woo" or anything
like that.
bob vesterman.
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would have a rather interesting property.
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> i didn't know the w in "how" was a vowel. but the one in "cwm" is.
> (we do, after all, call it a "double u".)
>
A better example of 'w' beign used as a vowel is the word 'few'. That 'yoo'
sound at the end of the word comes from the 'w', not from the 'e'. At least,
that's the way I learned it, but I have learned a lot of wrong things in my
life, so...
> Most consecutive consonants, counting y as a consonant.
>
> synchronous 6
How about syzygy?
Although, of course y is a vowel here...
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Why don't we just count O and U as consonants, too? Then it's 11!
Er, I was always taught that Y was a consonant. A E I O U are the vowels.
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Well, I was taught that 'y' is sometimes a vowel and sometimes a consonant,
(it is a vowel in the words by, my, sty, cry, etc., and a consonant in
you, yes, etc. I expect that was too complicated for your teachers.
I am not sure how to judge day, buy, etc.
I just checked the shorter OED:
Vowel: A speech sound produced by vibration of the vocal cords but without
any closure or narrowing of the speech tract such as would cause audible
friction; capable of forming a syllable; a letter of the alphabet
representing such a sound.
I expect that was too complicated for my teachers.
Derek Holt.
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How about "rhythms"? (7 consonants and no vowels!)
More terms available on request.
If you know where this comes from, don't make
it hard for everyone by saying what it is.
I think that, out of context, it may actually be easier,
so don't blow it!
Philip K. Roban
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Thank you for some linguistic reason!
In most languages (except English) "i" is regularly pronounced as it is in
"Machine". "Y" then becomes the consonant variation on that sound. For
instance, if your language **has** to have a consonant between two vowels,
you'll pay attention to the middle sound in "ia" (eg ending "Maria") --
there's the actual "i" sound, a new sound, then the "a" sound -- and spell
it "iya". In those languages, "y" is always a consonant, "i" is always used
for the vowel equivalent. (In English spelling, of course, anything goes!)
Also, "u" and "w" (or "uu" as it actually is written out and named) have the
same relationship. In "Follower", it's being a consonant that separates two
vowels. In "how," as noted, it's being a vowel -- compare "hob", where the
final letter isn't converting the "o" (or "a" in other languages) to a
diphthong.
In other words, in most languages using our alphabet, the teachers who omit
"y" and "w" would be entirely correct. But since English is so hobbledy-
gobbledy, they err if they leave them out.
: bob vesterman.
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