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Ashwini Kumar

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Oct 28, 1994, 10:07:01 AM10/28/94
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I cannot recollect, help me, please.

Two guys, A and B, discuss about English words.

A says :
There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
pronounced 'SH',
1. Sugar
2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)

B agrees and replys :
Sure, you are right.

Please note, 'sure' is not the answer.

-Ashwini.

Timothy E Vaughan

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Oct 28, 1994, 11:53:16 AM10/28/94
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The way my father used to tell it was:

One guy says, "Did you know that the only two words in the English
language that start with 'su' and have the 'sh' sound are
'sugar' and 'sumac'?"

The other guy says, "Sure I knew that."

Matthew B. Hoyt

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Oct 28, 1994, 8:47:17 AM10/28/94
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In article <38r0i5$m...@ceylon.gte.com> aku...@gtetel.com (Ashwini Kumar) writes:

> A says :
> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
> pronounced 'SH',
> 1. Sugar
> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)
>
> B agrees and replys :
> Sure, you are right.

>Please note, 'sure' is not the answer.

First of all, I think A should say "There are only two words in
English that do not start with 'sh', but are pronounced with an initial 'SH'
sound."

Otherwise I can give you quite a few that start with the letters 'sh' that
satisfy the question as it is stated.

Second, why isn't it 'sure'? Both pronuncations given in my dictionary start
with 'sh", or are you looking for a third word?

It is the British pronunciation, but does 'schedule' count?

Finally, I am guessing variations like 'sugarfree', "sugary', and 'sugarcane'
don't count either.

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life is not a zero-sum game.

D <shiv> Eggleston

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Oct 29, 1994, 12:05:40 PM10/29/94
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In article <38r0i5$m...@ceylon.gte.com>,

Ashwini Kumar <aku...@gtetel.com> wrote:
>I cannot recollect, help me, please.
>
>Two guys, A and B, discuss about English words.
>
> A says :
> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
> pronounced 'SH',
> 1. Sugar
> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)

"Sumac"

>
> B agrees and replys :
> Sure, you are right.

I believe the origin of this is Bernard Shaw (?).
First read it in a double crostic.

- d

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Andrey Tsouladze

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Oct 30, 1994, 4:07:38 PM10/30/94
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Timothy E Vaughan (tvau...@athena.mit.edu) wrote:

What about an Irish name Sean?

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Richard Sabey

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Nov 8, 1994, 8:18:42 AM11/8/94
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Matthew B. Hoyt <HOY...@basf-corp.com> wrote:
>> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
>> pronounced 'SH',
>> 1. Sugar
>> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)
>
>First of all, I think A should say "There are only two words in
>English that do not start with 'sh', but are pronounced with an initial 'SH'
>sound."

First of all, I think A should have said "begin with 's', and do not start with
'sh' or 'sch'".

Shpoilersh:


sugared, sugaring, sugars (etc.)
sure, surefire, surely (etc.)

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Dave Ring

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Nov 5, 1994, 12:46:05 PM11/5/94
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Matthew B. Hoyt <HOY...@basf-corp.com> wrote:
>> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
>> pronounced 'SH',
>> 1. Sugar
>> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)
>
>First of all, I think A should say "There are only two words in
>English that do not start with 'sh', but are pronounced with an initial 'SH'
>sound."

chevron, etc.

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reid....@pca.state.mn.us

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Nov 4, 1994, 9:51:22 AM11/4/94
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>> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
>> pronounced 'SH',
>> 1. Sugar
>> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)
>
> "Sumac"
>
>> B agrees and replys: Sure, you are right.

Unfortunately, here in Middle America, 'sumac' is pronounced 'soo mack'.
Funny for those of you who pronounce it the other way, though.

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Wei-Hwa Huang

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Nov 10, 1994, 6:39:38 AM11/10/94
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> >> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
> >> pronounced 'SH',
> >> 1. Sugar
> >> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)

Shibboleth.

REALLY TOUGH PUZZLE: What the hell does this posting refer to?

-- Wei-Hwa

Adam Buckley

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Nov 10, 1994, 10:27:04 AM11/10/94
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Wei-Hwa Huang (whu...@cco.caltech.edu) said:
: > >> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but

: > >> pronounced 'SH',
: > >> 1. Sugar
: > >> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)

Are you SURE ?
SURELY not.

Adam

Suresh Venkatasubramanian

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Nov 10, 1994, 3:04:09 PM11/10/94
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|> > >> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
|> > >> pronounced 'SH',
|> > >> 1. Sugar
|> > >> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)
|>

Sure.

Dave Dodson

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Nov 11, 1994, 1:02:27 PM11/11/94
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In article <39t0pq$l...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,

Wei-Hwa Huang <whu...@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
>> >> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
>> >> pronounced 'SH',
>> >> 1. Sugar
>> >> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)
>
>Shibboleth.
>
>REALLY TOUGH PUZZLE: What does this posting refer to?

Spoiler follows:

See Judges Chapter 12 in the Bible. The Gileadites had defeated the
Ephraimites in battle, and had posted guards at the fords of the Jordan
river to prevent the Ephraimites from escaping. When of the fugitives
from Ephraim asked to be allowed to cross the river, the guards would ask
if he were an Ephraimite. When he said he wasn't, they would test him by
asking him to say "Shibboleth," but the Ephraimitic accent caused them to
pronounce it "Sibboleth." In that way, the Gileadites siezed and killed
42,000 Ephraimites.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Dave Dodson dod...@convex.com
Convex Computer Corporation Richardson, Texas (214) 497-4234

MICHAEL A PHIPPS

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Nov 13, 1994, 3:51:14 PM11/13/94
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<SNIP>

>Shibboleth.
>
>REALLY TOUGH PUZZLE: What the hell does this posting refer to?
>
> -- Wei-Hwa

Old Testament....this was how the Hebrews dealt with possible
spies in a contested region; the people on their side of the river
pronounced it "shibboleth" but the people from the other side said
"sibboleth", so by getting someone to say the word (which is the name of
something or other, I've forgotten) you'd know where he was from. Not
the most sophisticated method. Along these lines was the practice
in the Pacific theater in WWII of using pass-words such as "lollipop",
"lilliputian", etc., in the somewhat optimistic belief that a Japanese
commando would not be able to say it correctly.
Now I know several people who can speak in any accent they please,
and it's led me to wonder, is there any aspect of your speech that
cannot be disguised? Is there a more sophisticated version of the
above methods that would work?

Mike Phipps (ca...@titan.ucs.umass.edu)

Richard Sabey

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Nov 15, 1994, 11:29:16 AM11/15/94
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Matthew B. Hoyt <HOY...@basf-corp.com> wrote:
>> There are only two words in English which start with 'S', but
>> pronounced 'SH',
>> 1. Sugar
>> 2. ------ : WHAT IS IT? (this is my question, not A's)
>
>First of all, I think A should say "There are only two words in
>English that do not start with 'sh', but are pronounced with an initial 'SH'
>sound."

First of all, I think A should have said "begin with 's', and do not start with
'sh' or 'sch'".

Another example was posted a few days ago. I have since found a third. (It isn't
one of the other two with a suffix.) It's in the OED with a capital S. However,
according to my online Webster's Second, it can be all lower-case. I have no
access to an actual copy of that dictionary, so I can't check this. Anyway: what
is this word? Answer in a few days if nobody else has got it by then.

roxyr...@gmail.com

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May 1, 2017, 1:08:02 PM5/1/17
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Hi dave.....
i just wanted to say that this really helped me.... NOT!!!

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE 2CND ONE IS SO PLZ FIND OUT AND EMAIL ME!
email me...

Mark Brader

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May 1, 2017, 2:01:27 PM5/1/17
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In case anyone was wondering, the posting I'm responding to was a
followup to a thread from 1994.
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Earle Jones27

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May 1, 2017, 8:49:05 PM5/1/17
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On 2017-05-01 18:01:19 +0000, Mark Brader said:

> In case anyone was wondering, the posting I'm responding to was a
> followup to a thread from 1994.

*
Q: Do you know any words that begin with the letter "S" but are
pronounced like "SH"?

A: I sure do, Sugar.

earle
*

Richard Heathfield

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May 2, 2017, 12:59:04 AM5/2/17
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Here are some more:

shabby (and all its variants)
shack
shackle
shade
shadow
shaft
shaky
shamble
shamrock

hundreds more

I don't think the puzzle was very well-specified.

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Dan Tilque

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May 2, 2017, 7:01:44 PM5/2/17
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Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 02/05/17 01:48, Earle Jones27 wrote:
>> On 2017-05-01 18:01:19 +0000, Mark Brader said:
>>
>>> In case anyone was wondering, the posting I'm responding to was a
>>> followup to a thread from 1994.
>>
>> *
>> Q: Do you know any words that begin with the letter "S" but are
>> pronounced like "SH"?
>>
>> A: I sure do, Sugar.
>
> Here are some more:
>
...
>
> hundreds more
>
> I don't think the puzzle was very well-specified.

That's because they aren't nitpickers like we have in this group. But if
they meant starting with S<vowel> and pronounced like SH, there's sumac,
besides sugar and sure already mentioned.

If they meant starting with S<not H> and pronounced SH, there's a fair
number borrowed from German or Yiddish:

schwa
schlep
schmaltz

(several others)


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Dan Tilque

Gene Wirchenko

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May 3, 2017, 12:07:21 AM5/3/17
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On Tue, 2 May 2017 05:59:03 +0100, Richard Heathfield
<r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

>On 02/05/17 01:48, Earle Jones27 wrote:
>> On 2017-05-01 18:01:19 +0000, Mark Brader said:
>>
>>> In case anyone was wondering, the posting I'm responding to was a
>>> followup to a thread from 1994.
>>
>> *
>> Q: Do you know any words that begin with the letter "S" but are
>> pronounced like "SH"?
>>
>> A: I sure do, Sugar.
>
>Here are some more:
>
>shabby (and all its variants)
>shack
>shackle
>shade
>shadow
>shaft
>shaky
>shamble
>shamrock
>
>hundreds more
>
>I don't think the puzzle was very well-specified.

You are an evil man.

Shh.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

noel....@gmail.com

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Feb 27, 2018, 8:55:23 AM2/27/18
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Surely not!

Basil Jet

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Feb 27, 2018, 9:48:20 AM2/27/18
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Schedule.

Richard Heathfield

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Feb 27, 2018, 3:27:38 PM2/27/18
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So we have:

sugar
sure
surely

and we can add:

sugars
sugarberry
sugarberries
sugarbird
sugarbirds
... (plenty more like that)

surefire
surefooted
surest
... (plenty more like that, too)

and let us not forget:

sureties
surety

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