More Spoiler Space....
Here we go!
I could try the following:
"I will now count from one to one hundred:
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
..
One Hundred!"
- this should take around a minute to say if you slow it down a
bit and as long as you say "One hundred" as opposed to "A hundred"
then you're OK! You can't go past One hundred because then you get
to one hundred *a*nd one, etc.
Vicky
Not speaking for Logica...
|> You must talk (and make sense) for 1 minite. You CANNOT use any words
|> that contain a letter 'A' and you must talk normally (2 words a second).
|> You do not have any time to work out what words to use..you must do it
|> clearly and fluently and within the next 5 mins;)). its EASY when you
|> know how...any takers??.
I won't use words with the letter "A", but I will use words with the
letter "a". 8-)
Tim
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In fact, I was taught that the correct pronunciation of 101 is "one
hundred one." If you follow that rule, the first number with an "a" in
it is "one quadrillion" -- and if you can count to 999,999,999,999,999
in your lifetime, I want your doctor's name.
(I'm using American pronunciation, number-naming, and number-writing
conventions here. Usage of dam' furriners may vary.)
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"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
Badly, it would seem. :) I wonder what bizarre factoid I was
misremembering? I know there was one, having to do with the spellings
of numbers up to some large power of ten.
> [spoiler deleted]
> You can't go past One hundred because then you get
> to one hundred *a*nd one, etc.
When I was in school, we learned that "and" is only used between the
whole part and the fraction part (i.e. one and a half). 101 is
pronounced "one hundred one." I guess the TV weatherpeople announcing
the temperature didn't go to the same school. Oh, well, it'll cool
down by October.
P.S. Because it's summer and I live in the Sonoran Desert, that's why!
The overnight low was 91 deg. F a couple of days ago and it hasn't
rained for 118 days in a row. (Today will make 119 unless ... it's
getting cloudy)
P.P.S. Don't say thousand.
"Andrew C. Plotkin" (erky...@CMU.EDU) writes:
> vi...@jessica.logica.co.uk (Vicky Wilks) writes:
>> In article <4rqtu0$j...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
>> "M.Warren." <md...@mailbox.cc.rl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >Ok..try this.
>> >You must talk (and make sense) for 1 minite. You CANNOT use any words
>> >that contain a letter 'A' and you must talk normally (2 words a second).
>> >You do not have any time to work out what words to use..you must do it
>> >clearly and fluently and within the next 5 mins;)). its EASY when you
>> >know how...any takers??.
>> >Mike.
>> >
>> SPOILER SPACE...
>>
>> [count to 100]
>> You can't go past One hundred because then you get
>> to one hundred *a*nd one, etc.
>
> In fact, I was taught that the correct pronunciation of 101 is "one
> hundred one." If you follow that rule, the first number with an "a" in
> it is "one quadrillion" -- and if you can count to 999,999,999,999,999
> in your lifetime, I want your doctor's name.
>
> (I'm using American pronunciation, number-naming, and number-writing
> conventions here. Usage of dam' furriners may vary.)
>
> --Z
>
Doesn't one thous*a*nd have an a in it?
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This reminds me of the abstract for a lecture given by Douglas
Hofstadter at the 1993 ACM's SIGCSE conference in which the only vowel
used was 'i'. That's when I started to doubt Hofstadter's sanity.
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Matthew C. Clarke <cla...@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za>
University of Natal, Pietermaritzburg, South Africa
errr... what about one thous*a*nd?? :-)
>(I'm using American pronunciation, number-naming, and number-writing
>conventions here. Usage of dam' furriners may vary.)
Indeed :-) We (UK) say "one hundred and one, one hundred and two, ... one
hundred and ninety nine" etc. Dam' Merkins!
Vicky
Not speaking for Logica
> In article <4rqtu0$j...@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>,
> "M.Warren." <md...@mailbox.cc.rl.ac.uk> writes:
>
> |> You must talk (and make sense) for 1 minite. You CANNOT use any words
> |> that contain a letter 'A' and you must talk normally (2 words a second).
> |> You do not have any time to work out what words to use..you must do it
> |> clearly and fluently and within the next 5 mins;)). its EASY when you
> |> know how...any takers??.
>
> I won't use words with the letter "A", but I will use words with the
> letter "a". 8-)
>
> Tim
I seem to recall that the letter "a" doesn't occur in the counting numbers
until "thousand". But of course I have to take a little time to work out
which words to use: what comes after two hundred thirty-nine? :-)
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: In fact, I was taught that the correct pronunciation of 101 is "one
: hundred one." If you follow that rule, the first number with an "a" in
: it is "one quadrillion" -- and if you can count to 999,999,999,999,999
: in your lifetime, I want your doctor's name.
In fact, the first number is "one thousand". You can count to "nine
hundred ninety nine."
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Errrrrm.... what ever happened to "one thousAnd"?
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> Ok..try this.
> You must talk (and make sense) for 1 minite. You CANNOT use any words
> that contain a letter 'A' and you must talk normally (2 words a second).
> You do not have any time to work out what words to use..you must do it
> clearly and fluently and within the next 5 mins;)). its EASY when you
> know how...any takers??.
> Mike.
>
One
Two
Three
Four
Five
Six
Seven
Shall I continue,
or can I just say
Nine Hundred Ninety Nine?
REG
Who cares if there is an 'a' in 101. We only have to talk for a minute.
Of course!!;)))...And doesnt Carol look fantastic!!..I dont know what
shes done but definatly looking GOOD!!!;)
Mike.
Clearly in Hernspeak that's "one thous'n'".
Roy
Well, of course you can count, but does that "make sense"? I mean,
if the puzzle were to speak for a minute using only words that
contained the letter "Q", I could read all the bold-faced entries
of the "Q" page of the dictionary, but I'm hardly making sense.
By your criterion, I would think that saying "strength strength
strength ..." 120 times in a minute would make no less sense.
While I'm posting, I'd also like to see someone seriously get out
2 words a second. Even if we didn't play that hyphenated numbers
count as only one word, just counting from sixty to one hundred
without having time to take a breath doesn't seem possible to me,
much less "normal".
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>Well, of course you can count, but does that "make sense"? I mean,
>if the puzzle were to speak for a minute using only words that
>contained the letter "Q", I could read all the bold-faced entries
>of the "Q" page of the dictionary, but I'm hardly making sense.
>
>By your criterion, I would think that saying "strength strength
>strength ..." 120 times in a minute would make no less sense.
I would say that it does make sense as long as you prefix it
with an explanation, such as "I will now count to one hundred",
or "I will now utter the word 'strength' one hundred times".
JMHO of course!
>While I'm posting, I'd also like to see someone seriously get out
>2 words a second. Even if we didn't play that hyphenated numbers
>count as only one word, just counting from sixty to one hundred
>without having time to take a breath doesn't seem possible to me,
>much less "normal".
The original puzzle did say [paraphrasing, sorry], "speak at normal
speed, ie about two words a second". I think the point of that was to
prevent you from going "I........um.......like my dog....um....he is
brown..........er....." for one minute. :-)
I did just try this out myself, I managed to count out loud from 1 to 91
without taking a breath. It took me a little over 30 seconds. So going on this
I would say that you could allow yourself a breath lasting (say) two seconds
and still have an average of two words a second (even allowing for hyphenated
numbers to count as one word). Mind you, I have done a lot (8 years) of breath
training for a) acting and b) flute playing, so I'm not necessarily "average"
in this resepct!
Vicky
- not speaking for Logica
Talking for one minute without the letter 'a'
is a piece of cake. One need not resort to counting,
either. I am now going to begin typing at 70 wpm
and prove to you, at least in written form, that it
is not necessary to incorporate this trivial letter in
everyday speech:
Hello. I'm writing from MIT. Notice none of these sentences
include the first letter. Pretty interesting, huh? It's very
simple...this letter is pretty useless, obviously. One writes
lots of things intelligibly without using our first letter. Now
let me tell you some things concerning my studies here. My experience
here is pretty positive. Working in the Civil Engineering group is lots
of fun even though the work I'm doing is not directly involved with
structures, per se. The work is in the field of nondestructive
testing. I'm developing some high frequency devices to test steel
for defects. I don't get much time to do much except work, work,
work. Sometimes, I do get the opportunity to ride my bike which
is one of the few enjoyments in my life. I enjoy the rec.puzzles
newsgroup which is fun. Except for those silly -gry postings.
Those people should stop the nonsense!
What the heck happened to one thousAnd? Lets see, nine hundred ninety
nine, one thousAnd, one thousAnd one, etc... I guess you could say
ten-hundred, heh
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The impressive thing is that even though I posted and acknowledged
this mistake three days ago, people are still correcting me.
The even more impressive thing is that nobody has corrected the
spelling of "minute" in the subject line.
>...I did just try this out myself, I managed to count out loud from 1 to 91
>without taking a breath. It took me a little over 30 seconds. So going on this
>I would say that you could allow yourself a breath lasting (say) two seconds
>and still have an average of two words a second (even allowing for hyphenated
>numbers to count as one word). Mind you, I have done a lot (8 years) of breath
>training for a) acting and b) flute playing, so I'm not necessarily "average"
>in this resepct!
Breath training Vicky? Why some of us have been breathing for decades -with
absolutely no training at all.
Mike.
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If the answer that seems to be the common concensus -- the one in which
you state that you will now count from 1 to 100, and then do it -- is
valid, then the following should be valid as well:
"I will now tell you the letters in English, skipping the first one. B,
C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J ...."
How do you pronounce H? and what about J, I pronounce that JAY. Surely you are
pronouncing As here.
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Surely 'pronouncing' A's is okay. Otherwise, you couldn't pronounce
"eight" in the 'standard' solution.
My only qualm with this solution is that, in order to take a minute,
it should probably say "I will now tell you three times the letters...."
In article <4t1odv$f...@nyx.cs.du.edu>, <kb...@nyx.cs.du.edu> writes:
> If the answer that seems to be the common concensus -- the one in which
> you state that you will now count from 1 to 100, and then do it -- is
> valid, then the following should be valid as well:
>
> "I will now tell you the letters in English, skipping the first one. B,
> C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J ...."
>
Not exactly, but related...
I recall hearing a blurb on NPR about a French book written entirely without the
letter 'e', and I believe a subsequent translation to English also without 'e's.
Does anyone recall what this book was called?
>I recall hearing a blurb on NPR about a French book written entirely without the
>letter 'e', and I believe a subsequent translation to English also without 'e's.
>Does anyone recall what this book was called?
"A Void". I don't remember the name of the author (but it _does_ have
"e" in it).
Seth
"La Disparition" (1969, Denoel, Paris, ISBN 2207234924 (paperback))
written by Georges Perec (1936-1982). The English translation, by
Gilbert Adair, was "A Void" (1994, Harvill, London, ISBN 0002711184
(paperback), 0002711192).
There was one earlier novel in English without the use of 'e': "Gadsby"
(1939, Wetzel, Los Angeles) by Ernest Vincent Wright (1872-1939).
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: >I recall hearing a blurb on NPR about a French book written entirely without the
: >letter 'e', and I believe a subsequent translation to English also without 'e's.
: >Does anyone recall what this book was called?
: "A Void". I don't remember the name of the author (but it _does_ have
: "e" in it).
the origianl book in french is La Disparition by g*org*s p*r*c.
the english translation is by gilb*rt adair.
there's a good review of the book, with an even better followup,
currently in the newsgroup rec.arts.books (and probably in r.a.b.reviews).
chiwito
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