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Rob H.

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Nov 15, 2012, 4:02:31 AM11/15/12
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I need some help with the third and fifth items this week:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

Robert

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>I need some help with the third and fifth items this week:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob



2716 look like a spring from a clip board

willshak

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Nov 15, 2012, 7:41:07 AM11/15/12
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2713 The original snowmobile! :-)

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Stormin Mormon

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Nov 15, 2012, 8:11:17 AM11/15/12
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Posting from my desk top PC, as always.

2713 jockey horse cart?
2714 coat rack for the Seven Dwarves?
2715 don't know.
2716 yoke for carrying groceries?
2717 no idea
2718 some kind of motor, maybe?

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Nov 15, 2012, 10:20:24 AM11/15/12
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'13: Wild guess: fence stretcher? (ok, really no clue)

'14: scraper or groover for hardpack soil, or maybe asphalt?

'15: Scriber for scribing line parallel to edge of board? Pins slide on opposite edges to hold position

'16: abstain

'17: no clue. it looks like roller held in contact with o-rings for grip, but.... really no clue

'18: some kind of reciprocating feeder.

walkerk

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Nov 15, 2012, 10:55:33 AM11/15/12
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2713 - Planting Sled.

Alexander Thesoso

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Nov 15, 2012, 12:01:04 PM11/15/12
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2718 Based on extreme ignorance, I'd say this is what I'd expect the
receiver of an electrically operated chain-gun to look like.

Bill

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Nov 15, 2012, 12:04:07 PM11/15/12
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2715 - a marking guage?

Bill

Kerry Montgomery

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Nov 15, 2012, 1:47:38 PM11/15/12
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"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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>I need some help with the third and fifth items this week:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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> Rob

2716: elephant IUD ;-)

Kerry


DoN. Nichols

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Nov 15, 2012, 2:02:54 PM11/15/12
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On 2012-11-15, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
> I need some help with the third and fifth items this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2713) This looks to me to be a device for sprinkling sand, ashes
or salt on an ice covered roadway. The sled runners on the
front, and the horse-drawn image of a larger version in the
background.

I'm not sure whether there is some linkage from the wheels to t
he shaker in the long box, or whether someone was expected to
ride on the platform over the wheels, and turn the disc in the
center of the box.

2714) I think that this is also ice related. Either as a
traction item when moved parallel to the crossbar, or to mark
cut lines on a frozen pond prior to sawing and harvesting the
ice. It was stored in sheds packed with sawdust as insulation.

2715) A tool to mark a line down the center of a plank, (or at some
other offset depending on the setting of the guides.

2716) Frankly, this looks like some insulated solid copper wire,
typical of house wiring. The black plastic is insulation,
probably a PVC (Poly-Vinyl-Chloride).

Someone wound it around a rod, slid it off, partially unwound
the center, and formed the ends into loops -- probably just for
the fun of it, not for any functional reason.

A close look at one of the ends (if it is not too tucked against
the side) should show the color of copper in the middle.

2717) The pair of O-rings around each suggest that it is to be a snug
fit in some form of cylinder. The slightly larger end plate
limits how far in it can go, and the threaded shaft in the
handle probably compresses the length to expand the O-rings to
grip the cylinder -- therefore to be used to pull it out.
Perhaps for removing wet liners in some older internal
combustion engine styles, such as the one in the Triumph TR-3
(which I believe used the engine originally for the Ferguson
tractor.)

2718) Hmm ... military, given the color.

Rotates as the carriage slides on the clamp sleeve.

Perhaps for throwing a coiled line and weight across a gap to
start building a bridge of some sort?

Perhaps to launch some kind of grenade or other explosive
device.

I think that it is designed to be powered by a rifle, and clamps
to the barrel of it.

Now to post and then see what others have suggested.

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Rob H.

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Nov 15, 2012, 4:42:09 PM11/15/12
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>2713 - Planting Sled.


Correct, it's for planting corn.


Rob H.

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Nov 15, 2012, 4:57:07 PM11/15/12
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>>
>> Rob
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>
>
> 2716 look like a spring from a clip board

This item is made entirely of plastic and it's not a spring.

Rob H.

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Nov 15, 2012, 5:01:36 PM11/15/12
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> '14: scraper or groover for hardpack soil, or maybe asphalt?


This one is difficult so I'll give a hint, it was used in a hardware store.


> '15: Scriber for scribing line parallel to edge of board? Pins slide on
> opposite edges to hold position


Several people have suggested this, sounds like a good use for it but I
haven't been able to prove it.




Alexander Thesoso

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Nov 15, 2012, 5:16:32 PM11/15/12
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2716 I have a vague feeling that I've seen things like this used as a
twist-tie to bundle or group wires. From the size, something like this
could be used to bundle telephone cables on utility poles.

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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Nov 15, 2012, 5:23:52 PM11/15/12
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> This one is difficult so I'll give a hint, it was used in a hardware
> store.

nail rake?

Lloyd

Alexander Thesoso

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Nov 15, 2012, 5:47:34 PM11/15/12
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On 11/15/2012 5:16 PM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
> 2716 I have a vague feeling that I've seen things like this used as a
> twist-tie to bundle or group wires. From the size, something like this
> could be used to bundle telephone cables on utility poles.
After a little more memory exercise, this might be a tangent cable
support. When something like a phone or power cable passes by a utility
pole and must be held up, the center of something like this is fastened
to the utility pole and each end coiled around the cable.

Rob H.

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Nov 15, 2012, 7:12:10 PM11/15/12
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Nope, that's not it.

Cydrome Leader

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Nov 15, 2012, 7:13:57 PM11/15/12
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it's for holding powerlines to their insulators.


Rob H.

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Nov 15, 2012, 7:26:22 PM11/15/12
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"Alexander Thesoso" <alexande...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 11/15/2012 5:16 PM, Alexander Thesoso wrote:
>> 2716 I have a vague feeling that I've seen things like this used as a
>> twist-tie to bundle or group wires. From the size, something like this
>> could be used to bundle telephone cables on utility poles.
> After a little more memory exercise, this might be a tangent cable
> support. When something like a phone or power cable passes by a utility
> pole and must be held up, the center of something like this is fastened to
> the utility pole and each end coiled around the cable.



Good answer! The person who sent the photo said that it's a tie for holding
high tension lines to the support insulator.






>>>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

j Burns

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Nov 15, 2012, 8:50:40 PM11/15/12
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2717: Well, red can mean hydrogen and yellow chlorine. Patent #4070861
was for a reactor using hydrogen and chlorine for propulsion or
electrical generation. Oxygen, perhaps air, was added to control the
reaction.

Rob H.

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Nov 16, 2012, 3:31:31 AM11/16/12
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>>
>>> This one is difficult so I'll give a hint, it was used in a hardware
>>> store.
>>
>> nail rake?
>
>
> Nope, that's not it.
>


I should have also mentioned that it's not a tool.


Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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> I should have also mentioned that it's not a tool

Well, if it's not a tool, then it must be a miniature 'demo' of a scarifier
rake or some such horse-drawn farm implement. A sales model, as it were.

LLoyd

Zz Yzx

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Nov 16, 2012, 10:45:56 AM11/16/12
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2718: an 18-inch 7342 and an 18-inch 7343.

Rob H.

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Nov 16, 2012, 4:00:07 PM11/16/12
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> 2718) Hmm ... military, given the color.
>
> Rotates as the carriage slides on the clamp sleeve.
....
>
> Perhaps to launch some kind of grenade or other explosive
> device.


Grenade launcher is correct, these are fairly common now but the ones in the
photo were experimental models.

Still not 100% sure about the two mystery items but the rest of the answers
have been posted here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/11/set-467.html#answers


Rob




Rob H.

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Nov 17, 2012, 4:53:47 AM11/17/12
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I just added this link to my answer, it shows the tripod and other missing
parts of the grenade launcher.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XM75_Automatic_Grenade_Launcher.jpg




Alexander Thesoso

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Nov 17, 2012, 6:23:08 AM11/17/12
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On 11/17/2012 4:53 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> I just added this link to my answer, it shows the tripod and other
> missing parts of the grenade launcher.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XM75_Automatic_Grenade_Launcher.jpg
Aha! Now I see how it works.
It isn't electrically operated. Recoil is converted to rotation of the
drum and the helical cam's angular momentum cycles the mechanism.

Leon Fisk

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Nov 17, 2012, 1:51:15 PM11/17/12
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"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:

<snip>
>Still not 100% sure about the two mystery items but the rest of
the answers have been posted here:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/11/set-467.html#answers
>
>Rob

You probably already know... but this set from years ago (Item
#633) looks to be the same as this weeks #2715.

http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/2006/04/630.html

Seems like it was solved then either...

I knew I had seen it before, just not in a catalog which would tell me
what it was for :)

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Rob H.

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Nov 17, 2012, 2:47:51 PM11/17/12
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> You probably already know... but this set from years ago (Item
> #633) looks to be the same as this weeks #2715.
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/2006/04/630.html
>
> Seems like it was solved then either...
>
> I knew I had seen it before, just not in a catalog which would tell me
> what it was for :)

You have a good memory! Yes, I knew I had posted it before and was hoping
that posting another one might finally get an answer. Sometimes I get
answers weeks, months or years after I first post an item, so I'm thinking
we'll get it identified eventually.

Leon Fisk

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Nov 17, 2012, 2:53:17 PM11/17/12
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The ferrules are slightly different between the two. I wondered at
first if they were the same tool or not :)

The latest version seems to have a bit of cloth or something stuck in
between the cutter and handle. Might provide some clue if the current
owner can't account for it being there...

j Burns

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Nov 18, 2012, 1:11:42 AM11/18/12
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With the handle at that angle, it seems to me it would be awkward to
drag along as a scribe. I wonder if it was made to be rocked, perhaps
to make a slit at a certain spot.

Rob H.

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Nov 18, 2012, 3:03:41 PM11/18/12
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>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/2006/04/630.html
>>>
>>> Seems like it was solved then either...
>>>
>>> I knew I had seen it before, just not in a catalog which would tell me
>>> what it was for :)
>>
>> You have a good memory! Yes, I knew I had posted it before and was
>> hoping that posting another one might finally get an answer. Sometimes I
>> get answers weeks, months or years after I first post an item, so I'm
>> thinking we'll get it identified eventually.
>>
> With the handle at that angle, it seems to me it would be awkward to drag
> along as a scribe. I wonder if it was made to be rocked, perhaps to make
> a slit at a certain spot.

Yes, I was also thinking it was for cutting leather but the two outer pieces
seem better suited to use with a plank of wood. Though if it is a scribe I
don't know why there is a blade and not just a nail-like marker. I just
added the leather cutter theory to my answer for this one.

Dr Nick

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Nov 18, 2012, 3:50:01 PM11/18/12
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I don't see why it has two sides. Unless you have very nicely planed
wood indeed it's either going to be a bit sloppy or bind on a wide bit.
Mortise marker gauges are "one sided" and I can't see why this isn't.

Looking at the photos the guides seem to be round not straight sided - I
wonder if they were intended to run in grooves on some sort of jig
that's been lost.

mbuck

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Nov 19, 2012, 9:19:15 AM11/19/12
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Maybe the whole device sat in some sort of mount, with the 'guides' being the pegs that went into the mount. And the central blade was to split something that was fed through...like a length of balsa wood or something?
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