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XXdant

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What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).

Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.

The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
by their original given name without addition, although at times their
family name may be used.

So far, I've only found four:

Napoleon
Galileo
Rembrandt
Elvis

Can anyone come up with more?

--
Dan Tilque

Doug Olson

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Michaelangelo
Dante
Fabian
Cher
Madonna
Dion


Doug Olson

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In article <3lm48h$q...@access4.digex.net>,
The former name of the artist presently called a circle with an arrow
sticking out the bottom crossed by a curly thing.


Matthew Hubbard

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In article <3llslt$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
>What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
>personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
>sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
>a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).
>
>Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
>societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.
>
>The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
>by their original given name without addition, although at times their
>family name may be used.
>
>So far, I've only found four:
>
>Napoleon
>Galileo
>Rembrandt
>Elvis

Hey, there's plenty and your fourth one is not kosher. If I say
Elvis to my friends, we are talking about The One True Living Elvis,
Elvis Costello. Presley is not a topic of conversation with us.

Here's ten without last names.

Cher
Prince (or The Former Prince)
Capucine
Madonna
Tiffany
Verushka
Donovan
Raffi
Yanni
Roseanne (no last name now, too many last names before ;^})

MattH

Timothy Reed

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In article <3llslt$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
>What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
>personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
>sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
>a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).
>
>Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
>societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.
>
>The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
>by their original given name without addition, although at times their
>family name may be used.
>
>So far, I've only found four:
>
>Napoleon
>Galileo
>Rembrandt
>Elvis

I'm not sure I would include Elvis Presley in this list because of the
confusion among he, Elvis Costello, and Elvis Stojko.

Others:

Christo (I think it's his given name, but not sure)
Nero (can't be sure of this one, but Nero *was* one of his middle names, wasn't
it?)

There is a whole group of popular singers known by a single name (mostly from
the '60s and '70s); again I don't have the resources to know if they are the
given names

Donovan
Tiffany
Lulu

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Michael Soss

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Matthew Hubbard (leof...@crl.com) wrote:
: Cher
: Prince <-- That ain't his given name.
: Capucine
: Madonna <-- Nor hers, I presume.
: Tiffany

: Verushka
: Donovan
: Raffi
: Yanni
: Roseanne

Remember that the problem states GIVEN name, not ONE name.

Mike

Doug Olson

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In article <3ln2qt$8...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,

According to the 1990 World Alamanac, the artist formerly known as Prince
was originally named Prince Rogers Nelson and
Madonna was originally Madonna Louise Ciccone.

XXdant

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dugo...@access4.digex.net (Doug Olson) writes:
}Michael Soss <so...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
}>Matthew Hubbard (leof...@crl.com) wrote:
}>: Cher
}>: Prince <-- That ain't his given name.
}>: Capucine
}>: Madonna <-- Nor hers, I presume.
}>: Tiffany
}>: Verushka
}>: Donovan
}>: Raffi
}>: Yanni
}>: Roseanne
}>
}>Remember that the problem states GIVEN name, not ONE name.

Thank you for pointing that out.

}According to the 1990 World Alamanac, the artist formerly known as Prince

}was originally named Prince Rogers Nelson and
}Madonna was originally Madonna Louise Ciccone.

I'd thought of Prince, Madonna and Cher, but also thought that Prince and
Madonna were performing names and not their original names. (Does anyone
know if they changed their names or if these were their originals?) I
knew
that Cher wasn't her original name, but it turns out that it's a
shortening
of Cherilyn. I guess I don't follow popular music very closely, because
I've
never heard of Capucine, Verushka, and Raffi and just barely know who
Tiffany and Yanni are. Donovan I was trying to forget.

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Dan Tilque

XXdant

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Timothy Reed <tr...@ball.com> writes:
>Christo (I think it's his given name, but not sure)

Don't know either.

>Nero (can't be sure of this one, but Nero *was* one of his middle names,
wasn't
>it?)

The encyclopedia says his original name was Lucius Domitius
Ahenobarbus. How he became known as Nero is beyond me.

>There is a whole group of popular singers known by a single name (mostly
from
>the '60s and '70s); again I don't have the resources to know if they are
the
>given names
>

>Lulu

Who's Lulu?

--
Dan Tilque

XXdant

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leof...@crl.com (Matthew Hubbard) writes:
> Hey, there's plenty and your fourth one is not kosher.

I wasn't planning on eating him.

>If I say
>Elvis to my friends, we are talking about The One True Living Elvis,
>Elvis Costello. Presley is not a topic of conversation with us.

Say Elvis to the average person and they'll think of Presley. Supporting
evidence: there's a popular song called "Calling Elvis" and it doesn't
mention his last name once. How many people think of Costello when
they hear that song?

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Rick Banghart

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In article <3llslt$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) wrote:

> What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
> personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
> sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
> a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).
>
> Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
> societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.
>
> The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
> by their original given name without addition, although at times their
> family name may be used.
>
> So far, I've only found four:
>
> Napoleon
> Galileo
> Rembrandt
> Elvis
>

> Can anyone come up with more?

Madonna (yes, really)
Prince (yes, really)
Michelangelo (I think)

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--rick

Matthew Hubbard

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>> The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
>> by their original given name without addition, although at times their
>> family name may be used.
>>
>> So far, I've only found four:
>>
>> Napoleon
>> Galileo
>> Rembrandt
>> Elvis
>>
>> Can anyone come up with more?
>
>Madonna (yes, really)
>Prince (yes, really)
>Michelangelo (I think)

Michelangelo is correct, sir! Actually, most one name stars are
known by their real first name (in some form) or an invented name. How
many people known only by their LAST name can you name? I'll get the
ball rolling.

Liberace
Valli (she was in "The Third Man" with Joseph Cotten and Orson Welles)
U Thant (U is Burmese for Mr.)

Any others? I intentionally left out fictional characters like
Kramer and Mr. Moto.

MattH


David Beal

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In article <3lou5d$l...@crl5.crl.com> leof...@crl.com (Matthew Hubbard) writes:
>In article <banghar4-030...@403cc-mac-17.cl.msu.edu> bang...@studentb.msu.edu (Rick Banghart) writes:
>
>>>
>>> Napoleon
>>> Galileo
>>> Rembrandt
>>> Elvis

>>Madonna (yes, really)
>>Prince (yes, really)
>>Michelangelo (I think)
>
> Michelangelo is correct, sir! Actually, most one name stars are
>known by their real first name (in some form) or an invented name. How
>many people known only by their LAST name can you name? I'll get the
>ball rolling.
>
>Liberace
>Valli (she was in "The Third Man" with Joseph Cotten and Orson Welles)
>U Thant (U is Burmese for Mr.)
>

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Thomas A. Hendricks

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: Here's ten without last names.

: Cher
: Prince (or The Former Prince)
: Capucine
: Madonna

: Tiffany
: Verushka
: Donovan
: Raffi
: Yanni

: Roseanne (no last name now, too many last names before ;^})

: MattH

Don't forget Basia, Enya, Sade, and Whoopi!

dtk

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In article <3lp49c$2n...@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
kep...@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (David Beal) writes:

> Valli (she was in "The Third Man" with Joseph Cotten and Orson Welles)


For much of her career, she went by the name Alida Valli

back to first names:
Ann-Margaret (she would certainly win the contest for being the LEAST
talented person known only by one name)

Doug Olson

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In article <3lo10i$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, XXdant <xxd...@aol.com> wrote:
>dugo...@access4.digex.net (Doug Olson) writes:
>}Michael Soss <so...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
>}>Matthew Hubbard (leof...@crl.com) wrote:
>}>: Cher
>}>: Prince <-- That ain't his given name.
>}>: Capucine
>}>: Madonna <-- Nor hers, I presume.
>}>: Tiffany
>}>: Verushka
>}>: Donovan
>}>: Raffi
>}>: Yanni
>}>: Roseanne
>}>
>}>Remember that the problem states GIVEN name, not ONE name.
>
>Thank you for pointing that out.
>
>}According to the 1990 World Alamanac, the artist formerly known as Prince
>
>}was originally named Prince Rogers Nelson and
>}Madonna was originally Madonna Louise Ciccone.
>
>I'd thought of Prince, Madonna and Cher, but also thought that Prince and
>Madonna were performing names and not their original names. (Does anyone
>know if they changed their names or if these were their originals?) I
>knew
>that Cher wasn't her original name, but it turns out that it's a
>shortening
>of Cherilyn. I guess I don't follow popular music very closely, because
>I've
>never heard of Capucine, Verushka, and Raffi and just barely know who
>Tiffany and Yanni are. Donovan I was trying to forget.
>
>--
>Dan Tilque
>
>

Among the names listed above, plus two more, are seven well-known pop
music stars of the Top 40 era. "The Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits" lists
the born names of stars that don't use them, and among the original names
of stars known only by their first names:

Cherilyn LaPierre (Cher)
Prince Roger Nelson (I think the book has this wrong. His middle name
was "Rogers.")
Madonna Louise Ciccone
Tiffany Darwisch
Donovan Phillip Leitch
Fabiano Forte (Fabian)
Dion DiMucci


Walter Prager

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In article m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com, xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
>What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
>personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
>sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
>a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).
>
>Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
>societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.
>
>The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
>by their original given name without addition, although at times their
>family name may be used.
>
>So far, I've only found four:
>
>Napoleon
>Galileo
>Rembrandt
>Elvis
>
>Can anyone come up with more?
>

Leopold!


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Walter Prager

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In article l...@crl5.crl.com, leof...@crl.com (Matthew Hubbard) writes:
...snippety-snip

> Michelangelo is correct, sir! Actually, most one name stars are
>known by their real first name (in some form) or an invented name. How
>many people known only by their LAST name can you name? I'll get the
>ball rolling.
>
>Liberace

>Valli (she was in "The Third Man" with Joseph Cotten and Orson Welles)

>U Thant (U is Burmese for Mr.)
>

> Any others? I intentionally left out fictional characters like
>Kramer and Mr. Moto.

Most classical composers and performers:

Beethoven
Mozart
Pavarotti
etc.

BTW, does anyone know if "Leopold" was his first or last name? :-)

Angus Walker

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Ann-Margret
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Matthew Russotto

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In article <3ln1nr$b...@saturn.ball.com>, Timothy Reed <tr...@ball.com> wrote:

}In article <3llslt$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
}>What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
}>personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
}>sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
}>a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).

Cleopatra had a family name-- Ptolemy.

}>Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
}>societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.

}>The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
}>by their original given name without addition, although at times their
}>family name may be used.

}>So far, I've only found four:
}>
}>Napoleon
}>Galileo
}>Rembrandt
}>Elvis
}

}I'm not sure I would include Elvis Presley in this list because of the
}confusion among he, Elvis Costello, and Elvis Stojko.
}
}Others:
}

}Christo (I think it's his given name, but not sure)

}Nero (can't be sure of this one, but Nero *was* one of his middle names, wasn't
}it?)

Monarchs in general.


Mark Shaw

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In article 8...@decaxp.harvard.edu, so...@fas.harvard.edu (Michael Soss) writes:
>Matthew Hubbard (leof...@crl.com) wrote:
>: Cher
>: Prince <-- That ain't his given name.

Yes it is. Prince Rogers Nelson.

>: Capucine
>: Madonna <-- Nor hers, I presume.

Unknown.


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David Karr

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In article <3lrv9r$g...@wanda.pond.com>, russ...@wanda.pond.com

(Matthew Russotto) wrote:
>}In article <3llslt$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
>}>What famous people are known only by their given name? [...]

>}>Ignore people who do not have
>}>a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).
>
>Monarchs in general.

Ah, but only if they had a "family name." Which ones did?


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Rhiannon Davies

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> >Lulu
>
> Who's Lulu?

A Scottish singer from the 70's, though still records from time to time -
recently sang with Take That (I'm told.. :) ). Famous for 'Shout'.

And it isn't her given name.

Rae
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Matthew Russotto

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In article <3ls2fe$i...@osiris.cs.cornell.edu>,

David Karr <ka...@cs.cornell.edu> wrote:
}In article <3lrv9r$g...@wanda.pond.com>, russ...@wanda.pond.com
} (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
}>}In article <3llslt$m...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
}>}>What famous people are known only by their given name? [...]
}>}>Ignore people who do not have
}>}>a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).
}>
}>Monarchs in general.
}
}Ah, but only if they had a "family name." Which ones did?

Pretty much all the English ones (Plantagenet, Tudor, Stuart, etc)
Cleopatra certainly did (if a dynasty name counts as a family name --
Ptolemy) The Chinese ones did (same condition).

David Karr

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Matthew Russotto (russ...@wanda.pond.com) wrote:
>In article <3ls2fe$i...@osiris.cs.cornell.edu>,
>David Karr <ka...@cs.cornell.edu> wrote:
>}In article <3lrv9r$g...@wanda.pond.com>, russ...@wanda.pond.com
>} (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
[...]

>}>Monarchs in general.
>}
>}Ah, but only if they had a "family name." Which ones did?
>
>Pretty much all the English ones (Plantagenet, Tudor, Stuart, etc)
>Cleopatra certainly did (if a dynasty name counts as a family name --
>Ptolemy) The Chinese ones did (same condition).

I wonder whether a dynasty name, or house name, counts as a
family name.

For example, Ptolemy was the *given* name of the founder of the
dynasty to which Cleopatra belonged. I suppose some people now refer
to it as the "Ptolemy" dynasty because, well, what else should they
call it?

Elizabeth II is a member of the house of Windsor, but I thought
she had no actual last name. Is this some kind of urban legend?
I wonder about Tudor, too---the Tudor monarchs are well represented
in the dictionary of biography in the back of Webster's New 20th
Century 2nd, but without any last name, nor is there a listing for
Tudor.

Stuart, on the other hand, was a bona fide family name (e.g., Mary,
Queen of Scots, aka Mary Stuart), and I think Plantagenet may have
been as well.

On the other hand, how about the Kaiser, Wilhelm II, aka Friedrich
Wilhelm Viktor Albert---*four* given names, the first two from his
father Wilhelm Friedrich (I guess), and the second two (again, at a
guess) after Queen Victoria and Prince Albert, his relatives. Did he
have a family name? None is listed. If not, that's 4 to 0 in favor
of given names.

Then there's Albert himself, listed in the dictionary as "Albert,
Francis Charles Augustus Emmanuel, Prince of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha."
What's the correct order of these names, and is any a family name?
Or does this score 5 to 0?

What historical figure has the largest difference between the number
of given names and the number of family names? (I believe it's
possible to have multiple family names, and I think Cervantes is
one example.)

Glen Wingrove

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WP> Beethoven
WP> Mozart
WP> Pavarotti
WP> etc.

WP>BTW, does anyone know if "Leopold" was his first or last name? :-)

Ummm....I believe his name is (was?) Leopold Stokowsky

Just thought i'd pop that in there....<G>

Glen

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Karen L Lingel

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Siegfield and Roy

Or are these their last names?


Daniel Green

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Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,
we should also probably try to list those famous people
whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?

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Frank P Barletta

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In article <3m00pp$q...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
Michael Soss <so...@course3.harvard.edu> wrote:
>Daniel Green (dan...@autodesk.com) wrote:
>: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,

>: we should also probably try to list those famous people
>: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
>: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?
>
>Ex-Seattle runningback John L. Williams. (I think he's on San Diego now.)
>
>Mike

Don't forget all those actors who have to use their middle names or
initials because of SAG rules prohibiting two members from using
the same professional name. Thus we have:
Samuel L. Jackson
Craig T. Nelson
David Hyde Pierce
Neil Patrick Harris
Michael J. Fox

There are many more, I'm sure.

(And maybe we should move this discussion from rec.puzzles to
rec.games.trivia. It seems to fit in better there.)

Michael Soss

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Alex Sisti

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In article <3lo1bt$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) wrote:

> Timothy Reed <tr...@ball.com> writes:
> >Christo (I think it's his given name, but not sure)
>

> Don't know either.


>
> >Nero (can't be sure of this one, but Nero *was* one of his middle names,
> wasn't
> >it?)
>

> The encyclopedia says his original name was Lucius Domitius
> Ahenobarbus. How he became known as Nero is beyond me.
>
> >There is a whole group of popular singers known by a single name (mostly
> from
> >the '60s and '70s); again I don't have the resources to know if they are
> the
> >given names
> >
> >Lulu
>
> Who's Lulu?
>
> --
> Dan Tilque

She's known (?) for stuff like "To Sir With Love", and I think she
might've also sung one of the James Bond title songs ('though I can't seem
to remember it, and therefore might be getting confused with other
Bond-girls (Sheena Easton, Shirley Bassey, and on and on...)

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In article 9...@autodesk.autodesk.com, dan...@autodesk.com (Daniel Green) writes:
>Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,
>we should also probably try to list those famous people
>whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
>initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?

First, a minor quibble: "Tyler" is not a middle initial, and I've never heard
of her referred to as "Mary T. Moore". Besides, it sounds like a last name and
not a middle name anyways.

Second, how about first names that are replaced by an initial (for people who
apprently don't like to go by their first names)?

e.g. C. Thomas Howell, H. Ross Perot

A thought just struck me (ouch!) Does this have anything to do with puzzles?

Matthew Hubbard

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In article ...<sistia-0604950809530001@baker_st.ira.rl.af.mil>
sis...@rl.af.mil (Alex Sisti) writes:
>In article <3lo1bt$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) wrote:
>
>> Timothy Reed <tr...@ball.com> writes:
>> >Christo (I think it's his given name, but not sure)
>>
>> Don't know either.
>>
>> >Nero (can't be sure of this one, but Nero *was* one of his middle names,
>> wasn't
>> >it?)
>>
>> The encyclopedia says his original name was Lucius Domitius
>> Ahenobarbus. How he became known as Nero is beyond me.
>>
>> >There is a whole group of popular singers known by a single name (mostly
>> from
>> >the '60s and '70s); again I don't have the resources to know if they are
>> the
>> >given names
>> >
>> >Lulu
>>
>> Who's Lulu?
>>
>> --
>> Dan Tilque
>
>She's known (?) for stuff like "To Sir With Love", and I think she
>might've also sung one of the James Bond title songs ('though I can't seem
>to remember it, and therefore might be getting confused with other
>Bond-girls (Sheena Easton, Shirley Bassey, and on and on...)

And here I thought my knowledge of Bond theme songs would never
come to good use!

Lulu sang "The Man With The Golden Gun".

She was also recently on "Absolutely Fabulous".

MattH

Stephen Penrice

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Apr 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/7/95
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In a previous article, tah...@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Thomas A. Hendricks) says:

>
>: Here's ten without last names.
>
>: Cher
>: Prince (or The Former Prince)
>: Capucine
>: Madonna

>: Tiffany
>: Verushka
>: Donovan
>: Raffi
>: Yanni

>: Roseanne (no last name now, too many last names before ;^})
>
>: MattH
>
>Don't forget Basia, Enya, Sade, and Whoopi!
>

And Fabio!
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XXdant

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Robert E Lee

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Doug Olson

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Apr 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/7/95
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In article <sistia-0604950809530001@baker_st.ira.rl.af.mil>,

Alex Sisti <sis...@rl.af.mil> wrote:
>In article <3lo1bt$7...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) wrote:
>
>> Timothy Reed <tr...@ball.com> writes:
>> >Christo (I think it's his given name, but not sure)
>>
>> Don't know either.
>>
>> >Nero (can't be sure of this one, but Nero *was* one of his middle names,
>> wasn't
>> >it?)
>>
>> The encyclopedia says his original name was Lucius Domitius
>> Ahenobarbus. How he became known as Nero is beyond me.
>>
>> >There is a whole group of popular singers known by a single name (mostly
>> from
>> >the '60s and '70s); again I don't have the resources to know if they are
>> the
>> >given names
>> >
>> >Lulu
>>
>> Who's Lulu?
>>
>> --
>> Dan Tilque
>
>She's known (?) for stuff like "To Sir With Love", and I think she
>might've also sung one of the James Bond title songs ('though I can't seem
>to remember it, and therefore might be getting confused with other
>Bond-girls (Sheena Easton, Shirley Bassey, and on and on...)
>
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She recorded the song to "The Man with the Golden Gun." (I just saw it
on video last weekend.) She's not germaine to the puzzle, though,
because her born name is Marie Lawrie.


Greg Carey

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Apr 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/10/95
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: Don't forget all those actors who have to use their middle names or

: initials because of SAG rules prohibiting two members from using
: the same professional name. Thus we have:
: Samuel L. Jackson
: Craig T. Nelson
: David Hyde Pierce
: Neil Patrick Harris
: Michael J. Fox

Did you realize that Michael J. Fox's real middle name is Andrew? He
couldn't use that because there was already an actor named Michael Andrew
Fox. Therefore, the meaningless J...

-Greg


Helene Solazzi

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Apr 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/10/95
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In <3m14mt$s...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> fpb...@pitt.edu (Frank P
Barletta) writes:

>
>In article <3m00pp$q...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,
>Michael Soss <so...@course3.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>Daniel Green (dan...@autodesk.com) wrote:

>>: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,


>>: we should also probably try to list those famous people
>>: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
>>: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?
>>

More:


>>Samuel L. Jackson
>Craig T. Nelson
>David Hyde Pierce
>Neil Patrick Harris
>Michael J. Fox
>

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Lee Cobb...............................J


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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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In article <797023...@rces.demon.co.uk>,

Rhiannon Davies <R...@rces.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >Lulu
>>
>> Who's Lulu?
>
>A Scottish singer from the 70's, though still records from time to time -
>recently sang with Take That (I'm told.. :) ). Famous for 'Shout'.
>
>And it isn't her given name.
>

I was thinking of Lulu... Lulu Roman , big lady from Hee Haw many years
ago on tv.. country/corny jokes show..

dunno if thats her real name

PAUL NORMAN MACDOUGALL

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XXdant (xxd...@aol.com) wrote:
: What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their

: personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
: sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have

: a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).

: Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some


: societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.

: The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
: by their original given name without addition, although at times their
: family name may be used.

: So far, I've only found four:

: Napoleon
: Galileo
: Rembrandt
: Elvis

: Can anyone come up with more?

: --
: Dan Tilque


What about the world of sports?
Pele

There's more I can think of, but they depend on the fact that you're
already on the topic of that particular sport...so I guess they don't
count.

-- Paul MacDougall
"Rocky had come equipped with a gun "...and it's hell to pay when the
To shoot off the legs of his rival" fiddler stops"
--J. Lennon/P. McCartney -- L. Cohen


Glenn Channell

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p...@ug.cs.dal.ca (PAUL NORMAN MACDOUGALL) writes:

>XXdant (xxd...@aol.com) wrote:
>: What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
>: personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
>: sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
>: a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).

>: Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
>: societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.

>: The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
>: by their original given name without addition, although at times their
>: family name may be used.

>: So far, I've only found four:

>: Napoleon
>: Galileo
>: Rembrandt
>: Elvis

>: Can anyone come up with more?

>: --
>: Dan Tilque


>What about the world of sports?
> Pele

I don't think Pele qualifies, because (if I remember correctly) it's not
his GIVEN NAME...

Here's another tho:

Michelangelo
Leonardo (?)


>There's more I can think of, but they depend on the fact that you're
>already on the topic of that particular sport...so I guess they don't
>count.

>-- Paul MacDougall
>"Rocky had come equipped with a gun "...and it's hell to pay when the
> To shoot off the legs of his rival" fiddler stops"
>--J. Lennon/P. McCartney -- L. Cohen

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Walter Prager

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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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In article 797620941@aries, chan...@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Glenn Channell) writes:
>p...@ug.cs.dal.ca (PAUL NORMAN MACDOUGALL) writes:
>
..SNIP..

>
>>What about the world of sports?
>> Pele
>
>I don't think Pele qualifies, because (if I remember correctly) it's not
>his GIVEN NAME...
...SNIP...

I think Pele qualifies for names that are neither given names, family names,
nor titles of any sort. David Karr posted that as a follow-up puzzle a while
ago, so if no one else wants to claim this as a solution, I will.

David Karr

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In article <D6vw0...@Newbridge.COM> wpr...@Newbridge.COM writes:
>I think Pele qualifies for names that are neither given names, family names,
>nor titles of any sort. David Karr posted that as a follow-up puzzle a while
>ago, so if no one else wants to claim this as a solution, I will.

I did point out that a lot of people are known by assumed names,
pseudonyms, and stage names, and tried to rule those out. I didn't
really discuss nicknames, like Yogi (Berra) or The Gipper (referring
to Reagan), but I had intended to rule out these too. I don't know
what kind of name Pele is since no-one seems to know where it came
from.

And then there are always situations like,

Her name was Magill
And she called herself Lil
But everyone knew her as Nancy.

On second thought, I'm not sure my own example was all that brilliant,
so I'll give more clues. The name I had in mind is a sort of title,
but it's not inherited (not acquired from someone who previously
possessed it) nor earned during the person's life---it's a fairly
simple, descriptive name acquired simply as a result of his birth.

Sorry if I've perplexed everyone with this, and I hope my hint will
be an adequate guide.

(The rule for generating the name is simple enough that I'm sure there
must be other examples, I just couldn't think of any.)

Matthew Hubbard

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Apr 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/11/95
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In article p...@ug.cs.dal.ca (PAUL NORMAN MACDOUGALL) writes:
>XXdant (xxd...@aol.com) wrote:
>: What famous people are known only by their given name?
^^^^^

>: Napoleon
>: Galileo
>: Rembrandt
>: Elvis
>
>: Can anyone come up with more?
>
>: --
>: Dan Tilque
>
>

>What about the world of sports?
> Pele
>

People slammed me for Madonna and Prince - when those are IN FACT
their given first names - so let me say Pele is the nickname of Edson
Arantes do Nasciamento. It's the Brazilian equivalent of "Butch".

New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.

Here are four to start with.

Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.

Matth

David Scott Mitchell

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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Frank P Barletta (fpb...@pitt.edu) wrote:
: In article <3m00pp$q...@decaxp.harvard.edu>,

: Michael Soss <so...@course3.harvard.edu> wrote:
: >Daniel Green (dan...@autodesk.com) wrote:
: >: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,
: >: we should also probably try to list those famous people
: >: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
: >: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?

John Kennedy - Not unrecognizable, but uncommon.

I miss John L. Williams. The Hawks aint the same without him.

DAVID

Dave Ring

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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David Karr <ka...@cs.cornell.edu> wrote:
>On second thought, I'm not sure my own example was all that brilliant,
>so I'll give more clues. The name I had in mind is a sort of title,
>but it's not inherited (not acquired from someone who previously
>possessed it) nor earned during the person's life---it's a fairly
>simple, descriptive name acquired simply as a result of his birth.

Baby M?

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spu...@pomona.edu

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Apr 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/12/95
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In article <3mfeq4$2...@osiris.cs.cornell.edu>, ka...@cs.cornell.edu (David

Karr) writes:
> On second thought, I'm not sure my own example was all that brilliant,
> so I'll give more clues. The name I had in mind is a sort of title,
> but it's not inherited (not acquired from someone who previously
> possessed it) nor earned during the person's life---it's a fairly
> simple, descriptive name acquired simply as a result of his birth.
>
> Sorry if I've perplexed everyone with this, and I hope my hint will
> be an adequate guide.
>
> (The rule for generating the name is simple enough that I'm sure there
> must be other examples, I just couldn't think of any.)

Sounds like the 'title' to which you refer is Dalai Lama. This is
neither earned nor given by the parents, and it certainly applies under the
pronoun you've used, he.

Though it really isn't an accurate answer (in that it was an assumed
name) I personally liked the answer D.B. Cooper that someone gave.

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In article <3mfeq4$2...@osiris.cs.cornell.edu>, ka...@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:

|>
|> Her name was Magill
|> And she called herself Lil
|> But everyone knew her as Nancy.
|>

|> On second thought, I'm not sure my own example was all that brilliant,
|> so I'll give more clues. The name I had in mind is a sort of title,
|> but it's not inherited (not acquired from someone who previously
|> possessed it) nor earned during the person's life---it's a fairly
|> simple, descriptive name acquired simply as a result of his birth.
|>
|> Sorry if I've perplexed everyone with this, and I hope my hint will
|> be an adequate guide.
|>
|> (The rule for generating the name is simple enough that I'm sure there
|> must be other examples, I just couldn't think of any.)

Well, how about "Sir"

(from "To Sir with love") ? :)

Frank
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Brian D. Phillips

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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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: : >: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,

: : >: we should also probably try to list those famous people
: : >: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
: : >: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?

Francis X. Bushman
e.e. cummings
T.S. Eliot

Brian "D." Phillips

David Beal

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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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>In article <3mfeq4$2...@osiris.cs.cornell.edu>, ka...@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>
>|> On second thought, I'm not sure my own example was all that brilliant,
>|> so I'll give more clues. The name I had in mind is a sort of title,
>|> but it's not inherited (not acquired from someone who previously
>|> possessed it) nor earned during the person's life---it's a fairly
>|> simple, descriptive name acquired simply as a result of his birth.
>|>
>|> Sorry if I've perplexed everyone with this, and I hope my hint will
>|> be an adequate guide.
>|>

My son went several days known only as "The Baby" <g>. In fact, he still goes
by that title now and then.
Are we getting close, Dave?

Beal


Edward Latham

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Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> writes:

> New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
>any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.
>
> Here are four to start with.
>
> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.

Howza bout: Einstein, Hitler, Manson, Nixon, Churchill, Steinbeck, Asimov,
Hefner, Poe, Mozart, Hope, Sinatra, Akroyd, and Jagger.
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Apr 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/13/95
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In article <xo2+Ad...@delphi.com> Edward Latham <ej...@delphi.com> writes:
>Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> writes:
>
>> New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
>>any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.
>>
>> Here are four to start with.
>>
>> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.
>
> Howza bout: Einstein, Hitler, Manson, Nixon, Churchill, Steinbeck, Asimov,
> Hefner, Poe, Mozart, Hope, Sinatra, Akroyd, and Jagger.

Yes on most of these but I would exclude Hefner(Christie, his
daughter), Sinatra(Frank, Jr. and Nancy), and Hope (Lange). Maybe even
Jagger (Dean and Bianca) and Aykroyd (Peter and fictional character Roger).

There is no other famous Wilt, Uma, Gehrig or Clapton to my
knowledge.

MattH


Dan Cass

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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Let's not forget Alfred E. Newman.
And John Q. Public.
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Wei-Hwa Huang

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Apr 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/14/95
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Edward Latham <ej...@delphi.com> writes:

>Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> writes:
>
>> New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
>>any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.
>>
>> Here are four to start with.
>>
>> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.
>
> Howza bout: Einstein, Hitler, Manson, Nixon, Churchill, Steinbeck, Asimov,
> Hefner, Poe, Mozart, Hope, Sinatra, Akroyd, and Jagger.

And how about Chamberlain, Thurman, Adolf, Winston, Wolfgang, Amadeus, and Mick?

:-)


Matthew Russotto

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In article <3mm7r5$6...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,

Chamberlain: Neville, Wilt
Winston: Churchill, Smith (_1984_ fictional character).
There's probably other Adolf's, but I can't think of one offhand.

David Fergemann

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In article <3mm9vj$q...@wanda.pond.com>, russ...@wanda.pond.com (Matthew
Russotto) wrote:

Adolf Eichmann
Pat Nixon
Wolfgang Pauli
Leopold Mozart
Mick Fleetwood

To beat a dead horse: How about fictional characters who share names with
real people? First one that comes to mind is David Copperfield (I think
the magician borrowed his name from the book, but I'm not sure).

-Dave Fergemann

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Dan Cass

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In article <3mm9vj$q...@wanda.pond.com> russ...@wanda.pond.com (Matthew Russotto) writes:
>In article <3mm7r5$6...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
>Wei-Hwa Huang <whu...@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
>}Edward Latham <ej...@delphi.com> writes:
>}
>}>Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> writes:
>}>
>}>> New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
>}>>any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.
>}>>
>}>> Here are four to start with.
>}>>
>}>> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.
>}>
>}> Howza bout: Einstein, Hitler, Manson, Nixon, Churchill, Steinbeck, Asimov,
>}> Hefner, Poe, Mozart, Hope, Sinatra, Akroyd, and Jagger.
>}
>}And how about Chamberlain, Thurman, Adolf, Winston, Wolfgang, Amadeus, and Mick?
>
>Chamberlain: Neville, Wilt
>Winston: Churchill, Smith (_1984_ fictional character).
>There's probably other Adolf's, but I can't think of one offhand.
>
There is the fairly well known case : Adolf Meattenderizer.

--dmc

XXdant

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Apr 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/15/95
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Edward Latham <ej...@delphi.com> writes:
>Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> writes:
>> New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
>>any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.
>>
>> Here are four to start with.
>>
>> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.
>
> Howza bout: Einstein, Hitler, Manson, Nixon, Churchill, Steinbeck,
Asimov,
> Hefner, Poe, Mozart, Hope, Sinatra, Akroyd, and Jagger.

At one time, Winston S. Churchill wasn't even the most famous
Winston Churchill. There was an American Winston Churchill who
was a well known author in the first half of this century. To
distinguish himself, the British Churchill used his middle initial.

There was also Randolf Henry Churchill, Winston's father, who
was a well known British politician in the last century.

How about

Newt
Oprah
Rush
Groucho, Harpo, Chico, Zeppo (of course, these weren't their
original names, so I'm not sure they should count.)

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Michael Soss

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Apr 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/16/95
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: Let's not forget Alfred E. Newman.
: And John Q. Public.

This morning I was reminded of another as I found a Susan B. Anthony
dollar in my pocket.

Mike

Matthew Hubbard

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Apr 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/16/95
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In article <3mpsbe$l...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
>>Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> writes:
>>> New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
>>>any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.
>>>
>>> Here are four to start with.
>>>
>>> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.

>How about
>
>Newt
>Oprah
>Rush (Sometimes I'll be reading and see Rush in print, only to find the
article is about the band Rush. Limbaugh is the only famous
person with this name.)



>Groucho, Harpo, Chico, Zeppo (of course, these weren't their
>original names, so I'm not sure they should count.)

There was a blues man named Slim Harpo, and some Spanish folks
have the nickname Chico: Chico and the Man, Chico Escuela on Saturday
Night Live back in the '70s.

If Oprah, why not Geraldo?

MattH

PAUL NORMAN MACDOUGALL

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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Brian D. Phillips (bph...@larry.cc.emory.edu) wrote:
: : : >: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,

: : : >: we should also probably try to list those famous people
: : : >: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
: : : >: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?

: Francis X. Bushman
: e.e. cummings
: T.S. Eliot

: Brian "D." Phillips

John Q. Public :-)
Cecil B. DeMille <sp?> ("I'm ready for my close-up")

Enigma GB

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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Samuel L. Jackson. He has to use the middle initial because another actor
is already registered as Samuel Jackson.

Wily E. Coyote

Phinneas J. Whoopie

On a slightly less uninteresting note, how many people (real or fictional)
do you know of who go by an initial for the first name, and the full
middle name.

The two I can think of are A. Whitney Brown. (SNL, Exit 57) and C. Thomas
Howell.
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Chris Best

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Apr 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/17/95
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: On a slightly less uninteresting note, how many people (real or fictional)

: do you know of who go by an initial for the first name, and the full
: middle name.

O. Winston Link
C. Everett Koop
L. Ron Hubbard
F. Lee Bailey
B. Ar thur :)


Sue Garcia

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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F. Scott Fitzgerald

Michael Soss

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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F. Lee Bailey!!!! No, don't . . . Noooooooo . . . *THWACK*

Angi Long

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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Doug Olson <dugo...@access4.digex.net> wrote:
> XXdant <xxd...@aol.com> wrote:
>>of Cherilyn. I guess I don't follow popular music very closely, because
>>never heard of Capucine, Verushka, and Raffi and just barely know who

Raffi is a children's singer (my kids have one or two of his
tapes.) The others I don't know.


Enigma GB

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Apr 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/18/95
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Okay, maybe I should have asked a different question.

How many letters of the alphabet can you represent with people who go by
an initial for the first name, and a full middle name?

So far:
A. Whitney Brown
C. Thomas Howell (or C. Everett Koop)
F. Lee Bailey
G. Gordon Liddy
J. Edgar Hoover
L. Ron Hubbard
O. Winston Link

Any more?

BOB MORRIS

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I vote for Adolph Coors...

steveisi

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In article <xo2+Ad...@delphi.com>, Edward Latham <ej...@delphi.com> says:


>> Here are four to start with.
>>
>> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.
>

What about Kronecker, Poincare, Goedel, Goethe, X, Ramanujan,
Napolean, Shwarzenegger, Euler, and Scarlotti?

XXdant

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enig...@aol.com (Enigma GB) writes:
}How many letters of the alphabet can you represent with people who go by
}an initial for the first name, and a full middle name?
}
}So far:
}A. Whitney Brown
}C. Thomas Howell (or C. Everett Koop)
}F. Lee Bailey
}G. Gordon Liddy
}J. Edgar Hoover
}L. Ron Hubbard
}O. Winston Link
}
}Any more?

H. Ross Perot
M. Reynolds Crane (oops, he's fictional -- bonus points for
anyone who can identify him.)

You're going to have problems finding people with the letters
X, Y and Z.

--
Dan Tilque

Brian D. Phillips

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Apr 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/19/95
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: : : : >: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,

: : : : >: we should also probably try to list those famous people
: : : : >: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
: : : : >: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?

Jerry Lewis (sans Lee)
Jack Leonard

Tom andHarry, Hume Being :v)
Brian

Matthew Hubbard

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There are two Baroque composers with the last name Scarlatti,
Domenico and Alessandro.

This high toned list made me think of a few more.

Botticelli, Couperin, Handel, Turing, Nijinsky, Nureyev.

MattH


Stacy Friedman

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Apr 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/19/95
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XXdant (xxd...@aol.com) wrote:
> }
> }So far:
> }A. Whitney Brown
> }C. Thomas Howell (or C. Everett Koop)
> }F. Lee Bailey
> }G. Gordon Liddy
> }J. Edgar Hoover
> }L. Ron Hubbard
> }O. Winston Link
> }
> }Any more?

> H. Ross Perot
> M. Reynolds Crane (oops, he's fictional -- bonus points for
> anyone who can identify him.)

Along the same lines: J. Pierpont Finch. Again, bonus points for ID...

-Stacy

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Frank O'Neil

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Apr 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/19/95
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In article <3mul20$q...@nonews.col.hp.com>, c...@col.hp.com (Chris Best) writes:
|> : On a slightly less uninteresting note, how many people (real or fictional)
|> : do you know of who go by an initial for the first name, and the full
|> : middle name.
|>
|> O. Winston Link
|> C. Everett Koop
|> L. Ron Hubbard
|> F. Lee Bailey
|> B. Ar thur :)
|>

Are you all too young to remember ... J. Edgar Hoover ?

Cheers,

F. Middle-Name O'Neil

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Walter Prager

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People, please! Enough is enough!

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Rik Fischer Smoody

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>You're going to have problems finding people with the letters
>X, Y and Z.

X. Ray Vision 8-)

Pat 'Cousin It' Savino

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On 18 Apr 1995, Enigma GB wrote:

> Okay, maybe I should have asked a different question.
>

> How many letters of the alphabet can you represent with people who go by
> an initial for the first name, and a full middle name?


>
> So far:
> A. Whitney Brown
> C. Thomas Howell (or C. Everett Koop)
> F. Lee Bailey
> G. Gordon Liddy
> J. Edgar Hoover
> L. Ron Hubbard
> O. Winston Link
>
> Any more?

How about Oz author

L. Frank Baum

-Pat Savino

Kevin Gloin

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Apr 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/20/95
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In article <3n3c6t$k...@moe.cc.emory.edu>,

Brian D. Phillips <bph...@curly.cc.emory.edu> wrote:
>: : : : >: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,
>: : : : >: we should also probably try to list those famous people
>: : : : >: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
>: : : : >: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?
>
Initials:
John Sullivan [L.](the boxer)
Ulysses Grant [S.] (President) (perhaps this a borderline one)
Mary Meagher [T.](swimmer)
John Macdonald [A.] (Canadian Prime Minister)

Middle names:
Billie King [Jean] (tennis)
Grover Alexander [Cleveland] (baseball)
Amos Stagg [Alonzo] (football)
William Harrison [Henry] (President)

How about a list of people who are only virtually known by their
nickame? ie Jim Hunter [Catfish] (baseball); Earvin Johnson
[Magic] (basketball) (the baseball list would be huge!)

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XXdant

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enig...@aol.com (Enigma GB) writes:
}How many letters of the alphabet can you represent with people who go by
}an initial for the first name, and a full middle name?
}

One more: T. Boone Pickens

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Bill Shatzer

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Apr 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/20/95
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In a previous posting, XXdant (xxd...@aol.com) writes:
> enig...@aol.com (Enigma GB) writes:
> }How many letters of the alphabet can you represent with people who go by
> }an initial for the first name, and a full middle name?
> }
> }So far:
> }A. Whitney Brown
> }C. Thomas Howell (or C. Everett Koop)
> }F. Lee Bailey
> }G. Gordon Liddy
> }J. Edgar Hoover
> }L. Ron Hubbard
> }O. Winston Link
> }
> }Any more?
>
> H. Ross Perot
> M. Reynolds Crane (oops, he's fictional -- bonus points for
> anyone who can identify him.)
>
> You're going to have problems finding people with the letters
> X, Y and Z.
>


Y. A. Tittle and ZZ Top? ;-)

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Barry and Arlene Fell

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safr...@scws10.harvard.edu (Stacy Friedman) wrote:

>
> XXdant (xxd...@aol.com) wrote:
> > }
> > }So far:
> > }A. Whitney Brown
> > }C. Thomas Howell (or C. Everett Koop)
> > }F. Lee Bailey
> > }G. Gordon Liddy
> > }J. Edgar Hoover
> > }L. Ron Hubbard
> > }O. Winston Link
> > }
> > }Any more?
>
> > H. Ross Perot
> > M. Reynolds Crane (oops, he's fictional -- bonus points for
> > anyone who can identify him.)
>
> Along the same lines: J. Pierpont Finch. Again, bonus points for ID...
>
J. Pierpont Finch is the hero of the Broadway musical, "How To
Succeed in Business Without Really Trying."
But...his name was based on the real J. Pierpont Morgan.
And isn't the general of Gulf War fame really H. Norman Schwarzkopf?

arlen...@mail.htp.com

Jim Waters

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Apr 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/21/95
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In article <3mredt$h...@crl7.crl.com>, Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> wrote:
>In article <3mpsbe$l...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> xxd...@aol.com (XXdant) writes:
>>>Matthew Hubbard <leof...@crl.com> writes:
>>>> New puzzle; find ten people who have one name not mistakable for
>>>>any other famous person, even though their other name is well known.
>>>>
>>>> Here are four to start with.
>>>>
>>>> Wilt, Uma, Gehrig, Clapton.
>
>>How about
>>
>>Newt
>>Oprah
>>Rush (Sometimes I'll be reading and see Rush in print, only to find the
> article is about the band Rush. Limbaugh is the only famous
> person with this name.)
>
>>Groucho, Harpo, Chico, Zeppo (of course, these weren't their
>>original names, so I'm not sure they should count.)
>
> There was a blues man named Slim Harpo, and some Spanish folks
>have the nickname Chico: Chico and the Man, Chico Escuela on Saturday
>Night Live back in the '70s.
>
> If Oprah, why not Geraldo?
>
>MattH
>
>


Don't forget Sinead, Arsenio, and Whoopi!


And for celebrities known only by their first names, don't forget Enya!

-- Jim Waters (jwa...@az.com)


???

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W. Somerset Maughm (sp?)

- M. Roozee
mro...@math.uci.edu

Wakko Warner

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On Wed, 19 Apr 1995, Pat 'Cousin It' Savino wrote:

>
> On 18 Apr 1995, Enigma GB wrote:
>
> > Okay, maybe I should have asked a different question.
> >

> > How many letters of the alphabet can you represent with people who go by
> > an initial for the first name, and a full middle name?
> >

> > So far:
> > A. Whitney Brown
> > C. Thomas Howell (or C. Everett Koop)
> > F. Lee Bailey
> > G. Gordon Liddy
> > J. Edgar Hoover
> > L. Ron Hubbard
> > O. Winston Link
> >
> > Any more?
>

> How about Oz author
>
> L. Frank Baum
>
> -Pat Savino
>
>

There is also W. Axl Rose, and J. Danforth Quayle

-Bryan and Mike

Wakko Warner

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> > -Bryan and Mike > > Also... S. Christa McAulliffe

Bryan and Christine


elsa...@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu

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In article <3n15v7$l...@decaxp.harvard.edu>, so...@course3.harvard.edu (Michael Soss) writes:

>: In article q...@nonews.col.hp.com, c...@col.hp.com (Chris Best) writes:
>: > : On a slightly less uninteresting note, how many people (real or fictional)
>: > : do you know of who go by an initial for the first name, and the full

>: > : middle name.
>: >
>: > O. Winston Link
>: > C. Everett Koop
>: > L. Ron Hubbard
>: > F. Lee Bailey
>: > B. Ar thur :)
>
>F. Lee Bailey!!!! No, don't . . . Noooooooo . . . *THWACK*

T. Coraghessan Boyle

robert whaples

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Apr 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/24/95
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On 20 Apr 1995, Kevin Gloin wrote:
> William Harrison [Henry] (President)

Don't forget these presidents whose first names are generally not
known:
Stephen Grover Cleveland
Thomas Woodrow Wilson
John Calvin Coolidge

R. Whaples

Angus Walker

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Apr 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM4/24/95
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> There is also W. Axl Rose

Since when did he have an initial W? His name wouldn't be an anagram of
Oral Sex if he had another initial, which is presumably the point.

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Richard Sabey

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Here are some names of real people (no fictional characters needed here!):

A. Valé Vins (2nd name's 4th letter is e acute)
C. Northcote Parkinson
F. Murray Abraham (played Salieri in "Amadeus")
F. Scott Fitzgerald (suggested by Sue Garcia)
H. Rider Haggard
J. Arthur Rank
J. Edgar Hoover
J. Paul Getty nth
L. Frank Baum
L. Sheridan LeFanu
R. Buckminster Fuller
T. Dan(forth) Quayle
W. Somerset Maugham

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In article <3n3c6t$k...@moe.cc.emory.edu>,
Brian D. Phillips <bph...@curly.cc.emory.edu> wrote:
>: : : : >: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,
>: : : : >: we should also probably try to list those famous people
>: : : : >: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
>: : : : >: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?

Good idea! One time I was writing a story and mentioned an entertainer named
Mary Moore, thinking I was was making it up. When I remembered MTM, I
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Also, you should consider Sting and Fish.
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fin...@vax.sbu.ac.uk

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In article <3n7f3k$2o...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, kgl...@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kevin Gloin) writes:
> In article <3n3c6t$k...@moe.cc.emory.edu>,
> Brian D. Phillips <bph...@curly.cc.emory.edu> wrote:
>>: : : : >: Not too interesting a thread, but for completeness sake,
>>: : : : >: we should also probably try to list those famous people
>>: : : : >: whose names are almost unrecognizable without their middle
>>: : : : >: initials such as Mary Moore and George Scott. Others?
>>

How about we let this strand die, and those who want to continue with it go to
rec.games.trivia.

Failing that, why don't we include names of people no one has ever heard of,
with or without initials?

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Larisa Migachyov

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XXdant (xxd...@aol.com) wrote:
: What famous people are known only by their given name? That is, their
: personal name as opposed to their family name or some name, title or
: sobriquet they acquired along the way. Ignore people who do not have
: a family name (e.g. Pericles, Jesus, and Cleopatra).

: Please note that I said given name rather than first name. Some
: societies (Roman, Chinese) put personal names after family names.

: The main criterion is that the person is generally refered to only
: by their original given name without addition, although at times their
: family name may be used.

: So far, I've only found four:

: Napoleon
: Galileo
: Rembrandt
: Elvis

: Can anyone come up with more?

Madonna

Matthew Hubbard

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In article <637089...@imiyct.demon.co.uk> aust...@imiyct.demon.co.uk writes:
>Pele
>

Not his given name; Pele is a nickname, like Butch, and his real
name is Edson Arantes do Nasciemento.

MattH

Richard vine

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In article 637089...@imiyct.demon.co.uk, Gary Austin <aust...@imiyct.demon.co.uk> () writes:
> Pele
>

Michaelangelo

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Dennis Cockburn

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-=> Quoting Larisa Migachyov to All <=-


LM> : Can anyone come up with more?

LM> Madonna

Cher
Bono


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Many entertainers do this:

Madonna
Roseanne
Cher

and for the more eclectic:

Charo (real name?)
Morganna

and also, I think, the recently deceased Selena.

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Bjork (I think that's her first name, but I'm not sure)
Nena
Martika
Enya
Sandra
Sabrina
Sinitta
Taco

There are/were lots of these, especially female singers.


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