Movie Sequels
Tom Collins
sequel titles. For example:
Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
Words like Returns, Back, Final
Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past. Please
include the whole movie name.
I'm looking for variations of the sequel part, not the original titles, e.g.
Rocky IV & Star Trek IV count as only one variation.
Good Luck.
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Joe
>The producers/writers have used a variety of ways to represent movie/TV
>sequel titles. For example:
>Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
>Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
>Words like Returns, Back, Final
>Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
>
Pluralise the original title:
e.g. Alien -> Aliens.
Introduce a completely new title:
e.g. First Blood -> Rambo.
These lead to my obPuzzle:
Some films have a sequel for which there doesn't seem to be a prequel,
e.g. there are films called Alien 3 and Rambo 3, but no Alien 2 or
Rambo 2. How many examples are there?
Matthew T. Russotto
Tom Collins <tcol...@america.net.no-spam> wrote:
}The producers/writers have used a variety of ways to represent movie/TV
}sequel titles. For example:
}Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
}Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
}Words like Returns, Back, Final
}Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
}
}How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past. Please
}include the whole movie name.
}I'm looking for variations of the sequel part, not the original titles, e.g.
}Rocky IV & Star Trek IV count as only one variation.
Comparatives: Die Hard, Die Hard 2:Die Harder
The third was Die Hard with a Vengeance, which probably counts as craziness.
Rambo changed its title and sequel method midway through: First
Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part II, Rambo III
Star Wars uses "Episode" followed by a roman numeral, and an episode name
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (not the original title)
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Star Wars: Episode II.I/II - The Many Deaths of Jar-Jar Binks (OK, maybe not)
Star Trek uses a roman numeral and a subtitle e.g.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn
There's probably a ridiculous number of variations.
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The Vaughans
> The producers/writers have used a variety of ways to represent movie/TV
> sequel titles. For example:
> Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
> Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
> Words like Returns, Back, Final
> Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
>
> How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past.
Sorry, but I am too lazy to look up some specific titles. But one genre is the
"Son of" type. And I think "Bride of Frankenstein" is a sequel as well.
Mark VandeWettering
You'd have to include "Abbott and Costello meet" with those. :-)
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Mike Keith
>> sequel titles. For example:
>> Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
>> Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
>> Words like Returns, Back, Final
>> Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
>>
>> How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past.
>
(1) Nonconsecutive numbers: 2001 -> 2010
(2) I'm not sure where this falls in the various types that
have been mentioned, but the Italian movie/sequel pair
"Quando le donne avevano la coda" ->
"Quando le donne persero la coda"
is syntactically interesting, with a word changed in the
middle of the title.
James Mcadams
Mike Keith <dom...@aol.comXYZXYZ> wrote:
>
>(2) I'm not sure where this falls in the various types that
>have been mentioned, but the Italian movie/sequel pair
>
>"Quando le donne avevano la coda" ->
>"Quando le donne persero la coda"
>
>is syntactically interesting, with a word changed in the
>middle of the title.
A related American example: "Vacation", "European Vacation"...
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Eric Sosman
>
> >> The producers/writers have used a variety of ways to represent movie/TV
> >> sequel titles. For example:
> >> Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
> >> Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
> >> Words like Returns, Back, Final
> >> Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
> >>
> >> How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past.
Colors: "I am Curious (Yellow)" and "I am Curious (Blue)."
Jim Gillogly
> I'm looking for variations of the sequel part, not the original titles, e.g.
> Rocky IV & Star Trek IV count as only one variation.
There's also "and the":
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, etc.
Tarzan and the Four O'Clock Army, etc.
Or 's:
Tarzan's Desert Mystery
Or, in fact, <any> phrase after the protagonist's name:
Tarzan Comes to Delhi
Or before it:
The Mask of Zorro
In fact, there are a great many movies of the form:
The <foo> of Zorro
so that's probably a specific variation in itself.
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Jim Gillogly
Mersday, 12 Afteryule S.R. 2001, 20:16
12.19.7.15.8, 13 Lamat 11 Kankin, Second Lord of Night
Paul Bobby
and then the prequel
Zulu Dawn
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:59:18 -0500, "Tom Collins"
Mark Brader
-> I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (1998)
This example is also interesting because both titles refer to the
summer of 1996, so the second one is actually wrong. (Or so I hear
from multiple sources; I haven't seen either movie myself.) It's
about the 6th example of a feature film whose title exhibits an error.
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Jeremy Cooke
"I know what you did last summer" and its sequel "I still know what you did
last summer"
Not so much sequels but a series of films;
Three Colours Red
Three Colours Blue
Three Colours Yellow (I think, though I haven't seen them)
Hot Shots Part Deux
Manon Des Sources & Jean De Florette
Jaws 3D
Look Who's Talking Too - sequal to Look who's talking
Three Men and a Little Lady - sequal to Three Men and a Baby
Silence of the Lambs & Hannibal - an interesting sequel title as it's
title is a character from the original.
The entire collection of the classic "Carry on..." films (Carry on up your
convenience, Carry on Camping.....etc etc). Not sequels in the strictest
sense though.
In the same vein as the Carry On films, the "Confessions of a...." films.
(...Plumber, ...Window Cleaner, ...Driving Instructor). Classics!!!!!
Hope this helps.
Jeremy
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Joseph Mcveety
"In Like Flint" and "Our Man Flint"?
A search of IMDB ought to turn them up.
I don't know if the 007 films have been mentioned yet or not, either.
Jim Gillogly
> Silence of the Lambs & Hannibal - an interesting sequel title as it's
> title is a character from the original.
To confuse the situation more, they're both sequels to the also
unrelated title Manhunter, a 1986 Michael Mann movie with Brian
Cox in the anthropophagous role of Dr. Hannibal Lektor/Lecter.
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Jim Gillogly
Mersday, 12 Afteryule S.R. 2001, 22:00
Max
>There's also "and the":
>
> Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, etc.
> Tarzan and the Four O'Clock Army, etc.
>
>Or 's:
>
> Tarzan's Desert Mystery
>
>Or, in fact, <any> phrase after the protagonist's name:
>
> Tarzan Comes to Delhi
>
>Or before it:
>
> The Mask of Zorro
>
>In fact, there are a great many movies of the form:
>
> The <foo> of Zorro
>
>so that's probably a specific variation in itself.
>--
> Jim Gillogly
> Mersday, 12 Afteryule S.R. 2001, 20:16
> 12.19.7.15.8, 13 Lamat 11 Kankin, Second Lord of Night
Which brings to mind all the Bob Hope / Bing Crosby "Road" pictures --
(On the Road to xxxxx).
Pro-Zak
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome
Steven Howard
Spelling out the word "part", as in THE GODFATHER, PART 2 and THE
GODFATHER, PART 3.
Putting the "part" part first, as in PART 2, WALKING TALL (alternate
title of, what else, WALKING TALL, PART 2).
Same title, different subtitles, as in AUSTIN POWERS: INTERNATIONAL
MAN OF MYSTERY and AUSTIN POWERS: THE SPY WHO SHAGGED ME.
Using a year rather than a number, as in BROADWAY MELODY OF 1936,
BROADWAY MELODY OF 1938, etc. (all "sequels" to BROADWAY MELODY).
Prepending the word "another" to the original title, as in ANOTHER 48
HRS, ANOTHER STAKEOUT, ANOTHER THIN MAN, etc. (Presumably the third
movie in such a series would be "YET ANOTHER <FOO>").
Trivia: Was THE GODFATHER, PART 2, the first "numerical" sequel?
Trivia II: What was the first movie sequel where the entire title was
the title of the first movie followed by the Roman numeral II?
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Matthew T. Russotto
}Jeremy Cooke wrote:
}
}> Silence of the Lambs & Hannibal - an interesting sequel title as it's
}> title is a character from the original.
}
}To confuse the situation more, they're both sequels to the also
}unrelated title Manhunter, a 1986 Michael Mann movie with Brian
}Cox in the anthropophagous role of Dr. Hannibal Lektor/Lecter.
Where's _Red Dragon_ fit in?
Jim Gillogly
>
> In article <3A53A1FA...@acm.org>, Jim Gillogly <j...@acm.org> wrote:
> }Jeremy Cooke wrote:
> }
> }> Silence of the Lambs & Hannibal - an interesting sequel title as it's
> }> title is a character from the original.
> }
> }To confuse the situation more, they're both sequels to the also
> }unrelated title Manhunter, a 1986 Michael Mann movie with Brian
> }Cox in the anthropophagous role of Dr. Hannibal Lektor/Lecter.
>
> Where's _Red Dragon_ fit in?
Manhunter, Red Dragon, and Red Dragon: The Pursuit of Hannibal Lecter
are all names for the same movie.
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Andy Averill
"Tom Collins" <tcol...@america.net.no-spam> wrote in message
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> The producers/writers have used a variety of ways to represent movie/TV
> sequel titles. For example:
> Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
> Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
> Words like Returns, Back, Final
> Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
>
> How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past.
Please
> include the whole movie name.
> I'm looking for variations of the sequel part, not the original titles,
e.g.
> Rocky IV & Star Trek IV count as only one variation.
:Here's a related trivia question:
Can you name a movie that's both a sequel to a remake and a remake of a
sequel?
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>The producers/writers have used a variety of ways to represent movie/TV
>sequel titles. For example:
>Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
>Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
>Words like Returns, Back, Final
>Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
>
>How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past. Please
>include the whole movie name.
>I'm looking for variations of the sequel part, not the original titles, e.g.
>Rocky IV & Star Trek IV count as only one variation.
*Changing a place name:
Ernest Goes to _______, Road to _______.
*Taking an initial from the original title and adding a number, then
subtitling with the original's full name:
D2: The Mighty Ducks, D3: The Mighty Ducks.
*Subtitle is a number written out:
Decalogue: One, Decalogue: Two, etc.
*Vs.:
Godzilla vs. ________.
*3D:
T2 3D, Jaws 3-D
[The planned title for Jaws 3-D was Jaws 3 People 0, according to IMDB]
*Spinoff sequel merging with the original series, creating chaos:
Scanner Cop 2, a.k.a. Scanners IV: Scanner Cop.
Richard John Cavell
> Can you name a movie that's both a sequel to a remake and a remake of a
> sequel?
? Return to Oz ?
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> A couple that spring to mind:
>
> "I know what you did last summer" and its sequel "I still know what you did
> last summer"
>
> Not so much sequels but a series of films;
> Three Colours Red
> Three Colours Blue
> Three Colours Yellow (I think, though I haven't seen them)
White, actually:
1. Trois couleurs: Bleu (1993)
(Three Colors: Blue (1994) (USA))
2. Trzy kolory: Bialy (1994)
(Three Colors: White (1994) (USA))
3. Trois couleurs: Rouge (1994)
(Three Colors: Red (1994) (USA))
Evil Dead -> Evil Dead 2 -> Army of Darkness
The Addams Family -> Addams Family Values
Aladdin -> The Return of Jafar
(probably other "The Return Of ___"s)
and last but by no means least
1. Toxic Avenger, The (1985)
2. Toxic Avenger, Part II, The (1989)
3. Toxic Avenger Part III: The Last Temptation of Toxie, The (1989)
4. Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger Part 4 (1999)
[I wish I could say I was making that series up.]
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> :Here's a related trivia question:
>
> Can you name a movie that's both a sequel to a remake and a remake of
a
> sequel?
>
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SPOILER
SPACE
Father of the Bride Part II (1995) is a sequel to Father of the Bride
(1991) which was a remake of the Spencer Tracey 1950 original. Since
the Spencer Tracey film also had a a sequel (Father's Little Dividend)
which the 1995 film remakes, FOTBP2 is both a sequel to a remake and a
remake of a sequel.
Tom
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> Star Wars: Episode II.I/II - The Many Deaths of Jar-Jar Binks (OK, maybe
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Sequels?
Also, is anyone counting?
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Joe
>
>Trivia: Was THE GODFATHER, PART 2, the first "numerical" sequel?
No. Probably Henry V, Part II, or something like that :-)
Mark Brader
> Weren't there a bunch of "Flint" movies which had titles such as:
> "In Like Flint" and "Our Man Flint"?
A bunch of two, to be exact. Those two.
> I don't know if the 007 films have been mentioned yet or not, either.
Irrelevant, since they are not named in any systematic way. (Well, all
right, they do mean that "no system" is one answer. And, of course,
that has been a frequent choice.)
One interesting series as regards naming has been the Inspector Clouseau
movies written and directed (and mostly also produced) by Blake Edwards.
The first two, which were made at the same time and released very close
together, had no systematic names: "The Pink Panther" (1963) and "A Shot
in the Dark" (1964). The second movie was actually an adaptation of a
play that did not have Clouseau in it, and he, played by Peter Sellers,
was the only character in common between the two movies.
A gap of several years followed, during which a different set of people
made the movie "Inspector Clouseau" (1968), directed by Bud Yorkin and
starring Alan Arkin as Clouseau.
Edwards then resumed his series with "The Return of the Pink Panther"
(1974), which was a combined sequel to the first two movies, using
characters from both. Obviously, this used the "The Return of" naming
convention, which was justified because the stories of the first and
third movies each revolved around a jewel named the Pink Panther.
The jewel was never seen again, but there were 5 more movies in the
series after that (three of them after Sellers had died!), and they
all had Pink Panther in the title: "The Pink Panther Strikes Again"
(1976), "Revenge of the Pink Panther" (1978), "Trail of the Pink
Panther" (1982), "Curse of the Pink Panther" (1983), and finally
"Son of the Pink Panther" (1993). Clearly the viewer was supposed to
view the name as being transferred to Clouseau himself; the last movie
was indeed about his son.
("Clous", by the way, is French for nails, and "eau" means water. Hmm.)
A similar case was that of the Thin Man series, starring William Powell
and Myrna Loy as mostly-retired detective Nick Charles and his wife
Nora. In the original "The Thin Man" (1934), the title character was a
crime suspect, and his thinness figured in the story. The second movie
was about Charles's next case, hence the title "After the Thin Man" (1936).
The third movie was "Another Thin Man" (1939), its title clearly referring
to a new character, whose measurements were purely incidental.
But as the series continued with "Shadow of the Thin Man" (1941), "The
Thin Man Goes Home" (1945), and "Song of the Thin Man" (1947), the same
sort of transference to the continuing character occurred. Certainly
this had occurred by the fifth movie, where nobody "went home" except
Nick himself. Even the third movie, according to the IMDB, was promoted
under the alternate title "Return of the Thin Man".
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>> Trivia: Was THE GODFATHER, PART 2, the first "numerical" sequel?
> No. Probably Henry V, Part II, or something like that :-)
Actually it *is* something like that. The first "numerical" sequel movie
was "Karl XII, del II" (1925). The title character was a King of Sweden
and, yes, "del" is Swedish for "part".
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> Joseph Mcveety writes:
> > Weren't there a bunch of "Flint" movies which had titles such as:
> > "In Like Flint" and "Our Man Flint"?
>
> A bunch of two, to be exact. Those two.
"Fletch" and "Fletch Lives" also come to mind.
> One interesting series as regards naming has been the Inspector Clouseau
> movies written and directed (and mostly also produced) by Blake Edwards.
> The first two, which were made at the same time and released very close
> together, had no systematic names: "The Pink Panther" (1963) and "A Shot
> in the Dark" (1964). The second movie was actually an adaptation of a
> play that did not have Clouseau in it, and he, played by Peter Sellers,
> was the only character in common between the two movies.
Several Kevin Smith movies ("Clerks", "Mallrats", "Chasing Amy", "Dogma"
- I think) have the common characters Jay and Silent Bob.
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"Tom Collins" <tcol...@america.net.no-spam> wrote in message
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> sequel titles. For example:
> Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
> Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
> Words like Returns, Back, Final
> Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
>
> How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past.
Please
> include the whole movie name.
> I'm looking for variations of the sequel part, not the original titles,
e.g.
> Rocky IV & Star Trek IV count as only one variation.
>
> Good Luck.
House 2 - The Second Storey
Norman L. DeForest
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Tom Collins wrote:
> The producers/writers have used a variety of ways to represent movie/TV
> sequel titles. For example:
> Strait numbers like 2, 3, 4
> Roman Numerals like II, III, IV
> Words like Returns, Back, Final
> Or just craziness like 2 1/2, 33 1/3.
>
> How many different ways can you find that have been used in the past. Please
> include the whole movie name.
> I'm looking for variations of the sequel part, not the original titles, e.g.
> Rocky IV & Star Trek IV count as only one variation.
I heard of a porn comedy in the '60s or '70s titled:
"If You Don't Stop It, You'll Go Blind!"
The sequel was called:
"Can I Do It Until I Need Glasses?"
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