Longest adjacent keys word

[Remco Bouckaert]

What is the longest word you can type on a typewriter
with letters that are adjacent on the keyboard. With
adjacent I mean the of letter i has to border to the
key of letter i+1 e.g. D is adjacent to E, R, F
C, X and S. Examples: as, Fred, deeded.

Remco Bouckaert

[Timothy J. Tebbe]

DESSERT (and TRESSED, if you so desire)
DRESSER, DRESSED
ASSESSES, ASSESSED, though, are the longest I can come up with.

Any takers on the "IOPL" quartet?

-Tim Tebbe
timt...@delta.eecs.nwu.edu

[Timothy E. Vaughan]

The longest one I found before getting bored was "seesawed."

Tim

[Paul Isaacs]

In article <1992Mar16....@eecs.nwu.edu> timt...@eecs.nwu.edu (Timothy J. Tebbe) writes:
>In article <1992Mar16....@cs.ruu.nl> re...@cs.ruu.nl (Remco Bouckaert) writes:
>>What is the longest word you can type on a typewriter
>>with letters that are adjacent on the keyboard. With
>>adjacent I mean the of letter i has to border to the
>>key of letter i+1 e.g. D is adjacent to E, R, F
>>C, X and S. Examples: as, Fred, deeded.
>>
>>Remco Bouckaert
>

REDRESSED (9)

pauli.

[Dan Tilque]

I noted that the keys 'ght' are adjacent on the keyboard and that
'ight' is a very common combination in English. With either a 'u' or
'j' added, one gets a five letter sequence centrally located on the
keyboard.

So I greped web2 for words containing 'ight' and searched the resultant
file for 'u'.

Here are the longest two words from that file that have all keys
adjacent (17 letters each):

overrighteousness
unstraightforward

If no repeated letters are desired, the longest is

uncopyrighted

Note that it contains all the toprow keys between 'e' and 'p'. Another
one with no repeat letters and also containing all the homerow keys
between 'a' and 'h' is

unfarsighted

---
Dan Tilque -- da...@logos.WR.TEK.COM

[Timothy E. Vaughan]

No, according to the original rules, "h" and "t" are NOT adjacent.
Note that in Bouckart's message, "v" is not adjacent to "d."

Tim

[Timothy E. Vaughan]

Actually, upon re-reading Dan Tilque's post, I see that my quibble is
a little different: I think that EACH letter was supposed to be
adjacent to its NEAREST neighbor in the word.

Tim

[Dan Tilque]

da...@logos.wr.tek.com (that's me) writes:
>re...@cs.ruu.nl (Remco Bouckaert) writes:
>>What is the longest word you can type on a typewriter
>>with letters that are adjacent on the keyboard. With
>>adjacent I mean the of letter i has to border to the
>>key of letter i+1 e.g. D is adjacent to E, R, F
>>C, X and S. Examples: as, Fred, deeded.
>

>Here are the longest two words from that file that have all keys
>adjacent (17 letters each):

Someone pointed out in e-mail that I'd misunderstood the problem. I
thought that the total set of letters had to be adjacent, not consecutive
letters. I guess I was misled by the example "deeded" which treats a
letter as adjacent to itself where the instructions don't allow that.

Sorry about that.

[Paul Sharkey]

Redressed --- 9

[the.sopho...@gmail.com]

I started with the assumption that a key is not adjacent to itself (so no double letters but, if you loop back around, you can use a letter more than once)

The longest words I have found are deserty, desert, sewed, sawer and trews

[Gene Wirchenko]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 04:44:53 -0700 (PDT), the.sopho...@gmail.com
wrote:

>I started with the assumption that a key is not adjacent to itself (so no double letters but, if you loop back around, you can use a letter more than once)
>
>The longest words I have found are deserty, desert, sewed, sawer and trews

Interesting. Due to the arrangement of the vowels and the
adjacent letters, it is hard to come up with any words longer than
four letters. Note that all of your words contain S and E.

I came up with some more. All of mine each also contain S and E.
sewer
(Does "sewer" count as two words? One who sews and a waste conduit.)
redes
resew(s)
resawer
redesert
(to desert (leave) again) Eight letters is longest so far.
resewed
Swede(s)

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

[Mark Brader]

Gene Wirchenko:

> I came up with some more. All of mine each also contain S and E.
> sewer
> (Does "sewer" count as two words? One who sews and a waste conduit.)
> redes
> resew(s)
> resawer
> redesert
> (to desert (leave) again) Eight letters is longest so far.
> resewed
> Swede(s)

I did a computer search on /usr/share/dict/words, which on this system
is a version of the "Webster's 2nd" word list. It's not ideal for this
purpose because it contains a large number of very obscure words, but
no inflected forms.

Excluding capitalized words, there are 210,714 words on the whole
list, and from these, there were just 5 hits more than 5 letters long:

6: desert
6: ewerer
7: resawer
7: sewered
8: kolokolo

No, I don't know what a kolokolo is.

I do, however, observe that there is a family of terms used to describe
the replacement of X in a Y by saying that the Y is being re-Xed. So
on this basis, if the sewer in a street is replaced, we can say that
the street was

9: resewered

and with that, I stop.


Here's the Perl program I used for the search, in case anyone wants to
try it on any other word lists. The hardcoded constant 4 is, of course,
the shortest hit to report.

my @kbd = map { [split //] } qw<qwertyuiop asdfghjkl zxcvbnm>;
my %adj;

sub pair {
my ($x, $y) = @_;
$adj{"$x$y"} = $adj{"$y$x"} = 1;
}
foreach my $row (@kbd) {
for (my $i = 0; $i < @$row - 1; ++$i) {
pair($row->[$i], $row->[$i + 1]);
}
}
for my $r (0 .. 1) {
for (my $i = 0; $i < @{$kbd[$r + 1]}; ++$i) {
pair($kbd[$r]->[$i], $kbd[$r + 1][$i]);
pair($kbd[$r]->[$i + 1], $kbd[$r + 1][$i]);
}
}

MAIN:
while (<>) {
chomp;
next if (length() < 4);
my @pairs = /../g;
s/^/ /;
push @pairs, /../g;
foreach my $pair (@pairs) {
next MAIN if (not exists $adj{$pair} and not $pair =~ /^ /);
}
print length() - 1, ": $_\n";
}

--
Mark Brader "...there are other means of persuasion
m...@vex.net besides killing and threatening to kill."
Toronto --Dashiell Hammett, The Maltese Falcon

My text in this article is in the public domain.

[Gene Wirchenko]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:40:09 -0700, Gene Wirchenko <ge...@telus.net>
wrote:

And
sawed
resawed

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

[Gene Wirchenko]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:03:56 -0500, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

>Gene Wirchenko:
>> I came up with some more. All of mine each also contain S and E.
>> sewer
>> (Does "sewer" count as two words? One who sews and a waste conduit.)
>> redes
>> resew(s)
>> resawer
>> redesert
>> (to desert (leave) again) Eight letters is longest so far.
>> resewed
>> Swede(s)
>
>I did a computer search on /usr/share/dict/words, which on this system
>is a version of the "Webster's 2nd" word list. It's not ideal for this
>purpose because it contains a large number of very obscure words, but
>no inflected forms.
>
>Excluding capitalized words, there are 210,714 words on the whole
>list, and from these, there were just 5 hits more than 5 letters long:
>
> 6: desert
> 6: ewerer
> 7: resawer
> 7: sewered
> 8: kolokolo

Congrats on the only word not containing S and E.

>No, I don't know what a kolokolo is.

Neither does dictionary.reference.com.

>I do, however, observe that there is a family of terms used to describe
>the replacement of X in a Y by saying that the Y is being re-Xed. So
>on this basis, if the sewer in a street is replaced, we can say that
>the street was
>
> 9: resewered

And
resewerer one who did the work
desewered when it is ripped out
desewerer one who did that

>and with that, I stop.

Really? When you are *tied* for first?

[snipped code]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

[Richard Heathfield]

On 14/07/15 05:03, Mark Brader wrote:

<snip>

> Excluding capitalized words, there are 210,714 words on the whole
> list, and from these, there were just 5 hits more than 5 letters long:
>
> 6: desert
> 6: ewerer
> 7: resawer
> 7: sewered
> 8: kolokolo
>
> No, I don't know what a kolokolo is.

I don't know what they are either but, if you look hard enough, you
might find one at 10.783134N, 4.8579137W. Or it might be an Argentinian
wossname for the scarlet ibis.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

[Mark Brader]

Mark Brader:

>> No, I don't know what a kolokolo is.

Gene Wirchenko:
> Neither does dictionary.reference.com.

Neither does the OED Online, nor the RHU1, nor any of the real dictionaries
in onelook.com. Some of these sources do list "kolo" as the name of a
dance from some part of what used to be Yugoslavia, leading me to wonder
if "kolokolo" could be a word derived from that.

However, Wordnik does list "kolokolo" as "a name applied by the natives
in Hawaii to a number of plants with a creeping or prostrate habit",
and cites the Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia; so I'm guessing that
that's the one that got into Webster's 2nd.

There is an entry for "Kolokolo" in Wikipedia, but that's a place name
(in Burkina Faso, and Google Maps knows two instances in other countries
as well as a Kolokolo Point in Hawaii), so it doesn't count.

I tried searching for "kolokolo" as a word (rather than an article
title) in the English-language Wikipedia, and came across several
articles where the Hawaiian bird name was used. (There's also a
fictional "Kolokolo Bird" in Rudyard Kipling's "Just So Stories".)

There were also some false hits on related spellings such as "Kolo Kolo",
including two songs, one in Bosnian (no doubt referring to the dance, so
my original guess wasn't so far off) and one in Telugu.
--
Mark Brader | "... there is no such word as 'impossible' in
Toronto | my dictionary. In fact, everything between
m...@vex.net | 'herring' and 'marmalade' appears to be missing."
| -- Dirk Gently (Douglas Adams)

[swp]

https://translate.google.com/#bn/en/kolokolo

shows the translation to english as "murmur"

swp