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R. Giuly

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Mar 1, 2001, 10:24:05 PM3/1/01
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I saw some question in a puzzle book that said form a sentence with a
bunch of consecutive "had"'s in it. At least four. And they were
supposed to be actually structurally part of a sentence not something
like "She said, 'had had had had.'"

I don't have the book anymore; I was wondering if anybody could figure
this out.


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David Howse

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Mar 1, 2001, 11:04:51 PM3/1/01
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"R. Giuly" wrote:
>
> I saw some question in a puzzle book that said form a sentence with a
> bunch of consecutive "had"'s in it. At least four. And they were
> supposed to be actually structurally part of a sentence not something
> like "She said, 'had had had had.'"
>
> I don't have the book anymore; I was wondering if anybody could figure
> this out.

Possibly something similar to

"Bill, where George had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had
had the teacher's approval."

David

Benjamin Goldberg

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Mar 1, 2001, 11:37:36 PM3/1/01
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R. Giuly wrote:
>
> I saw some question in a puzzle book that said form a sentence with a
> bunch of consecutive "had"'s in it. At least four. And they were
> supposed to be actually structurally part of a sentence not something
> like "She said, 'had had had had.'"
>
> I don't have the book anymore; I was wondering if anybody could figure
> this out.

I think the it was something like: A person named Had is playing in a
word guessing contest, and lost. The correct answer for the contest Had
was playing in was "had."

Had Had had "had", Had would have won.

Can anyone think of a sentence with 6 hads? Or 6 of any word, for that
matter. Using the word as a name is only valid if you've actually ever
heard of the word used as a name in RL.

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practice are identical, but in practice, they are not.

Mark Brader

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Mar 1, 2001, 11:47:26 PM3/1/01
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Benjamin Goldberg writes:
> Can anyone think of a sentence with 6 hads?

"Today I had breakfast, then I had a snack, then I had lunch, then..."

But I think Benjamin wants them consecutive.

> Or 6 of any word, for that matter.

I've seen this one with 5 and no punctuation; I thought it was in the
rec.puzzles archive but I can't seem to find it there.

The child that Mary and Joe had had had had had no dinner yet.

Mary and Joe had had no success at natural childbirth, so they arranged
for a surrogate preganancy; they had the child had, so this was a child
that they had had had. The rest is obvious. Change Joe's name to Had
and you can get one more, but only if you allow the capitalized and
uncapitalized words to be counted as the same; I prefer not to.

At the same time I saw that, I also saw this one:

Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.

That is,

Bisons that bisons confuse
themselves confuse
bisons that bisons confuse.

but it's awfully contrived. If course, if all these bisons are from
the city of Buffalo and you allow capitalized and uncapitalized words
to be counted as equivalent, then you can make it 11 words long.
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Carl G.

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Mar 2, 2001, 12:32:20 AM3/2/01
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Mark Brader wrote in message <97n8ku$2l92$1...@news.tht.net>...

>Benjamin Goldberg writes:
>> Can anyone think of a sentence with 6 hads?
>
>"Today I had breakfast, then I had a snack, then I had lunch, then..."
>
>But I think Benjamin wants them consecutive.
>
>> Or 6 of any word, for that matter.
>
>I've seen this one with 5 and no punctuation; I thought it was in the
>rec.puzzles archive but I can't seem to find it there.
>
> The child that Mary and Joe had had had had had no dinner yet.
>
..

>Mark Brader, Toronto | ... "reasonable system" is of course defined as


Interesting.

You, while David Howse, had had 'had had "had", had had "had had". "Had
had" had had', had had "had had had had had". 'had had "had", had had "had
had". "Had had" had had' had had more consecutive hads.

The paragraph above, while David Howse's had had 'had had "had", had had
"had had". "Had had" had had', had had "had had 'had had "had", had had
"had had". "Had had" had had', had had "had had had had had". 'had had
"had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had' had had". "had had 'had had
"had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had', had had "had had had had
had". 'had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had had' had had" had
had more consecutive hads.

(I'm not positive I got that last paragraph right. My spell checker warned
me that there was a repeated word.)

Carl G.

Rod Stephenson

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Mar 2, 2001, 1:43:28 AM3/2/01
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"Wouldn't the sentence 'I want to put a hyphen between the words Fish
and And and And and Chips in my Fish-And-Chips sign' have been clearer
if quotation marks had been placed before Fish, and between Fish and
and, and and and And, and And and and, and and and And, and And and
and, and and and Chips, as well as after Chips?"

Patrick Hamlyn

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Mar 2, 2001, 2:48:48 AM3/2/01
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
> Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.

>Benjamin Goldberg writes:


>> Can anyone think of a sentence with 6 hads?

Which leads to the ObPuzzle: What's the most 'had's you can have in a sentence
(or paragraph) *without any other words*? Extra points for believability.

1) Allowing the use of the surname of little known 'Geoffrey Had'
2) Allowing also his son, foolishly christened 'Had Had'.
3) Not allowing either of the above.

st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk

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Mar 2, 2001, 5:28:43 AM3/2/01
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In article <97n8ku$2l92$1...@news.tht.net>,
m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
>...

>I've seen this one with 5 and no punctuation; I thought it was in the
>rec.puzzles archive but I can't seem to find it there.
>
> The child that Mary and Joe had had had had had no dinner yet.
>...

Mary, whereas Joe had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'Had had' had had
the approval of the examiners.

Ewart, whereas Mark had had "...had had had had had...", had had
"...had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'Had had' had had...".
Had "...had had had had had..." had
"...had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'Had had' had had..."
written in its stead, then Mark would have won. [Iterate till bored!]

-- Ewart Shaw.
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Richard Heathfield

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Mar 2, 2001, 9:42:15 AM3/2/01
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st...@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk wrote:
>
> In article <97n8ku$2l92$1...@news.tht.net>,
> m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) writes:
> >...
> >I've seen this one with 5 and no punctuation; I thought it was in the
> >rec.puzzles archive but I can't seem to find it there.
> >
> > The child that Mary and Joe had had had had had no dinner yet.
> >...
>
> Mary, whereas Joe had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'Had had' had had
> the approval of the examiners.
>
> Ewart, whereas Mark had had "...had had had had had...", had had
> "...had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'Had had' had had...".
> Had "...had had had had had..." had
> "...had had 'had', had had 'had had'. 'Had had' had had..."
> written in its stead, then Mark would have won. [Iterate till bored!]
>
> -- Ewart Shaw.


Is this the appropriate moment to trot out the old story of the
sign-writer putting up a new shop sign for the proprietors of that
well-known store, Welland and Anderson? The sign looked like this (fixed
font if you want to see it properly):

W E L L A N D A N D A N D E R S O N

Mr Welland complained:

"You've left too much space between Well and and and and and And and And
and And and And and erson!"


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Michael Hochster

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Mar 2, 2001, 10:47:59 AM3/2/01
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

: Benjamin Goldberg writes:
:> Can anyone think of a sentence with 6 hads?

I think that you can get arbitrarily many hads using embedded
clauses.

3 hads:

The cat that the neighbor that I
had had had fleas.

6 hads:

The the cat that the neighbor that the cousin
that the dentist that the friend that I
had had had had had had fleas.

etc


Benjamin Goldberg

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Mar 2, 2001, 3:10:50 PM3/2/01
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Wow. Totally buffalo.

jon wild

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Mar 4, 2001, 9:28:08 PM3/4/01
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Mark Brader <m...@vex.net> wrote:

> Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo.

> That is,

> Bisons that bisons confuse
> themselves confuse
> bisons that bisons confuse.

> but it's awfully contrived. If course, if all these bisons are from
> the city of Buffalo and you allow capitalized and uncapitalized words
> to be counted as equivalent, then you can make it 11 words long.

And if a bison naturally gets along well with his comrades more than
others do, he might be called a "buffalo buffalo" by analogy with a
"people person". Then we can make it 15 words long...

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jon wild

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