What is it? Set 442

[Rob H.]

This week's set has been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

[Dennis]

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2563. Metallurgy cross section samples


Not a clue on the others.

[Rob H.]

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>> This week's set has been posted:
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>> Rob
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> 2563. Metallurgy cross section samples
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Thanks, I'll pass this on to the owner of them.

[Stormin Mormon]

2563, maybe some product samples of plastic?
2564, ladder for a very tall man.
2565, part of garden hose nozzle?
2566, garden shovel, but why the offset?
2567, no clue
2568, no clue

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[Sonny]

Guesses:
2564 - Looks like some kind of runners for a snow sled; skid
runners for delivering firewood.

2566 - An arborist's spade

Sonny

[e]

'63: potted metalurgical samples. probably polished

'64: some kind of hook on rack? Maybe for hanging bunks on a ship? <--
wild guess based on the nautical theme pictures visible

'65: abstain

'66: looks like either a spade for doing edging or a specialty
concrete tool, maybe.

'67: Jugheads hat?

'68: so familiar looking, but I have no idea why....

[Northe]

2565 looks like some sort of gasket cutter
2567 my guess is a decorative cap for a small smokejack or similar
(based on it looking rather like the top of a steamboat stack
2568 valve spring lifter tool?

Northe

[Nick]

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> Rob

'63 - Dennis & e likely spot-on.
'64 - Have seen this before, but can't remember.
'65 - ?
'66 - Turfing iron. (for lifting grass turfs).
'67 - Shade/protection for a lamp/lantern?
'68 - ?

[J Burns]

2566 looks like a tool to dig a deep trench with straight sides.

[Rob H.]

> 2567 my guess is a decorative cap for a small smokejack or similar

> (based on it looking rather like the top of a steamboat stack)

I think this is probably correct but would guess that it would be almost
impossible to say exactly if it was made for a lamp, a still, a model
riverboat, etc.

> 2568 valve spring lifter tool?

No correct guesses yet for this one, this particular tool is for a single
purpose, but usually it is seen as a notch on a combination tool.

[Zz Yzx]

On Thu, 24 May 2012 04:33:02 -0400, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com>
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>This week's set has been posted:
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>Rob
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2566: grave digger's shovel

[tiredofspam]

2564 looks like a ramp or bridge for moving possibly a cable spool or
small trolley.

[G.W. Ross]

2568 A grill scraper?

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[technomaNge]

On 05/24/2012 03:33 AM, Rob H. wrote:
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2565 is the piston from a hand operated water pump,
minus the leather washer.


technomaNge
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[Rob H.]

"G.W. Ross" <gw...@comwest.net> wrote in message
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> Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> 2567 my guess is a decorative cap for a small smokejack or similar
>>> (based on it looking rather like the top of a steamboat stack)
>>
>> I think this is probably correct but would guess that it would be almost
>> impossible to say exactly if it was made for a lamp, a still, a model
>> riverboat, etc.
>>
>>> 2568 valve spring lifter tool?
>>
>> No correct guesses yet for this one, this particular tool is for a single
>> purpose, but usually it is seen as a notch on a combination tool.
>>
> 2568 A grill scraper?

Nope. Concerning my previous post where I said it was usually seen as a
notch on a combination tool, slot would probably be a better choice of words
than notch, and there is typically two or three of them.

[phorbin]

In article <427f54ba-1250-40e7-b5ab-5ca497296681
@t35g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, enl_p...@yahoo.com says...

2568 looks like a patent knife sharpener with parts missing.

[Rob H.]

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> 2564 looks like a ramp or bridge for moving possibly a cable spool or
> small trolley.
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You were in the right ballpark, it's a ramp for beer barrels. Still not
sure about the flat shovel and the smokestack crown but the rest of the
answers can be seen here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/05/set-442.html#answers

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2012-05-24, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
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Oops -- I didn't get to usenet last night -- too much time
fighting with a drafting program for a project I'm building. :-

So -- I'd better post my opinions before I read anyone else's.

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2563) My guess here is that they are metallurgical samples for
analysis by some process or other -- microscopic or other.

The sample is cast in the epoxy (I think rather than Bakelite),
identification is scratched into one end of the cylinder, and
the other is machined and then polished to expose the metal
samples for study. Not sure whether it is simply sanded or
lapped to provide the needed surface finish. It looks as though
most of the samples were extrusions, so I suspect that grain
structure was being examined using perhaps a phase contrast
microscope.

2564) Given the U-bend in each of the cross pieces, I suspect that
this was a support for either a flexible pipe or for electrical
cables. This sort of thing (usually metal) is typically used in
the between the floors spaces in multi-story buildings. (The
ones which I have experienced are not quite tall enough to allow
walking upright even without all the pipes, cables, air
conditioning ducts and such which crowd the space

Not sure why this one is made mostly of wood, and why in the
middle of a more gentile environment. :-)

2565) Perhaps the handle for a beer dispensing tap. The large end
(which we don't see end on) would hold a medallion to identify
the beer and the brewery.

2566) Looks to me like something for smoothing concrete.

2567) Perhaps something for analyzing the purity of the ore mined?
Not sure why the crown spikes.

2568) I think that this is a handle (key) for turning on and off power
using a switch with a recessed actuator to prevent the general
public from switching things on and off.

O.K. Now to stop and send this before I go on to read the
now exposed answers.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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[Zz Yzx]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 16:40:39 -0400, "Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com>
wrote:

>Still not sure about the flat shovel and the smokestack crown but the rest of the
>answers can be seen here:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/05/set-442.html#answers

My wife swears the shovel is a grave digger's spade, the offset to
allow them to scrape the sides of the hole flat. She syas she's seen
a few.

[mbuck]

Maybe. Here's a photo of an early 'turf lifter'...quite similar.
http://www.jonfoxantiques.com/product.php?id=20&prod=284&page=13

[Sonny]

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> >http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/05/set-442.html#answers
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2566 - Maybe it's not a shovel. The attachment to the handle is not
as a shovel is attached. It looks more like a grub hoe attachment.
Maybe it's some kind of straight hoe or straight adze-type tool for
soil digging, trenching, turf lifting. I didn't get any hits for
grave digging related searches.

Sonny

[J Burns]

According to my dictionary, a shovel moves earth and a spade cuts it.
With a step for a foot and the handle parallel to the blade, it looks
like it was made to cut.

It doesn't look good for lifting sod. The handle would be just above
the ground, leaving no room to lever the sod up.

It looks just right for straightening the sides of a trench. A grave
needs straight sides. You wouldn't want the casket to jam as it was
lowered.

[routerman]

442 also one of B&D's best routers but poorest sellers.
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Still with OEM components after 33 years and still running.
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[mbuck]

Yes, but find a photo.

[J Burns]

Here's Viktor Vasnetsov's drawing. Please note where the gravedigger steps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vasnetsov_Grave_digger.JPG

[J Burns]

This grave digger seems to be using a spade with a place to step above
the blade, like the mystery item.

<http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Vasnetsov_Grave_digger.JPG>

[Rob H.]

>>>> 2566 - Maybe it's not a shovel. The attachment to the handle is not
>>>> as a shovel is attached. It looks more like a grub hoe attachment.
>>>> Maybe it's some kind of straight hoe or straight adze-type tool for
>>>> soil digging, trenching, turf lifting. I didn't get any hits for
>>>> grave digging related searches.
>>>>
>>>> Sonny
>>>
>>> According to my dictionary, a shovel moves earth and a spade cuts it.
>>> With a step for a foot and the handle parallel to the blade, it looks
>>> like it was made to cut.
>>>
>>> It doesn't look good for lifting sod. The handle would be just above
>>> the ground, leaving no room to lever the sod up.
>>>
>>> It looks just right for straightening the sides of a trench. A grave
>>> needs straight sides. You wouldn't want the casket to jam as it was
>>> lowered.
>>
>> Yes, but find a photo.
>
> Here's Viktor Vasnetsov's drawing. Please note where the gravedigger
> steps.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vasnetsov_Grave_digger.JPG

I sent an email to the curator of the Ames shovel collection at Stonehill
College, maybe we'll get lucky and they will have one like it. I got an
automated response saying that they won't be back in the office until
Tuesday. The idea that it's for trenches or graves sounds good but I sure
can't find any similar ones on the web.

[Ralph]

Maybe it is a tool for removing shingles.

[mbuck]

On Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:33:02 PM UTC+8, Rob H. wrote:
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Well, the handle is precisely like this civil war era Infantry Spade on this page (scroll down 1/5 of the way, after the drum and stirrups.

I think it might be for digging ditches in the civil war.

http://caldwellandcompany.net/Catalog1.html

[mbuck]

You know, the more I look at it, the more it looks like a trowel, not a shovel. The 'back' side is mighty flat....even the hossel was attached so that it would not leave a mark.

[Rob H.]

>> Well, the handle is precisely like this civil war era Infantry Spade on
>> this page (scroll down 1/5 of the way, after the drum and stirrups.
>>
>> I think it might be for digging ditches in the civil war.
>>
>> http://caldwellandcompany.net/Catalog1.html
>
> You know, the more I look at it, the more it looks like a trowel, not a
> shovel. The 'back' side is mighty flat....even the hossel was attached so
> that it would not leave a mark.

Looks like it would work for that but most of the trowels that I've seen
were smaller and meant to be used with one hand. Still haven't heard back
yet from the shovel museum.