Age-Puzzle
Ganesh Kamath D
A man walks into a bar, orders a drink, and starts chatting with the
bartender. After a while, he learns that the bartender has three
children. "How old are your children?" he asks. "Well," replies the
bartender, "the product of their ages is 72." The man thinks for a
moment and then says, "that's not enough information." "All right,"
continues the bartender, "if you go outside and look at the building
number posted over the door to the bar, you'll see the sum of the
ages." The man steps outside, and after a few moments he reenters and
declares, "Still not enough!" The bartender smiles and says, "My
youngest just loves strawberry ice cream."
Paul Kane
Ganesh Kamath D wrote:
The man then says "In fact I did not need all that information, I simply
needed to know that the answer is in the rec.puzzles Archive (FAQ) , I
should have looked there first"
The Bartender replies "Yeah! the Archive that would of saved a lot of
grief!".
--
Paulk
mailto:pa...@jcp.co.uk
There will be no dictators when I rule the world.
Chris Cole
Ganesh Kamath D wrote:
> A man walks into a bar, orders a drink, and starts chatting with the
> bartender. After a while, he learns that the bartender has three
> children. "How old are your children?" he asks. "Well," replies the
> bartender, "the product of their ages is 72." The man thinks for a
> moment and then says, "that's not enough information." "All right,"
> continues the bartender, "if you go outside and look at the building
> number posted over the door to the bar, you'll see the sum of the
> ages." The man steps outside, and after a few moments he reenters and
> declares, "Still not enough!" The bartender smiles and says, "My
> youngest just loves strawberry ice cream."
Welcome to rec.puzzles. You may be interested in this
entry from the rec.puzzles archive:
==> logic/children.p <==
A man walks into a bar, orders a drink, and starts chatting with the
bartender. After a while, he learns that the bartender has three
children. "How old are your children?" he asks. "Well," replies the
bartender, "the product of their ages is 72." The man thinks for a
moment and then says, "that's not enough information." "All right,"
continues the bartender, "if you go outside and look at the building
number posted over the door to the bar, you'll see the sum of the
ages." The man steps outside, and after a few moments he reenters and
declares, "Still not enough!" The bartender smiles and says, "My
youngest just loves strawberry ice cream."
How old are the children?
In a variant of the problem, it is the oldest child that likes ice cream.
Then either the product is 36 or the sum of the ages is 13 and the
product of the ages is the number posted over the door.
Then how old are they?
==> logic/children.s <==
First, determine all the ways that three ages can multiply together to
get 72:
72 1 1 (quite a feat for the bartender)
36 2 1
24 3 1
18 4 1
18 2 2
12 6 1
12 3 2
9 4 2
9 8 1
8 3 3
6 6 2
6 4 3
As the man says, that's not enough information; there are many
possibilities. So the bartender tells him where to find the sum of the
ages--the man now knows the sum even though we don't. Yet he still
insists that there isn't enough info. This must mean that there are
two permutations with the same sum; otherwise the man could have easily
deduced the ages.
The only pair of permutations with the same sum are 8 3 3 and 6 6 2,
which both add up to 14 (the bar's address). Now the bartender
mentions his "youngest"--telling us that there is one child who is
younger than the other two. This is impossible with 8 3 3--there are
two 3 year olds. Therefore the ages of the children are 6, 6, and 2.
Pedants have objected that the problem is insoluble because there could
be a youngest between two three year olds (even twins are not born
exactly at the same time). However, the word "age" is frequently used
to denote the number of years since birth. For example, I am the same
age as my wife, even though technically she is a few months older than
I am. And using the word "youngest" to mean "of lesser age" is also in
keeping with common parlance. So I think the solution is fine as
stated.
In the product-36 variant, the possibilities are:
36 1 1
18 2 1
12 3 1
9 4 1
9 2 2 (sum = 13)
6 6 1 (sum = 13)
6 3 2
4 3 3
In the sum-13 variant, the possibilities are:
11 1 1
10 2 1
9 3 1
9 2 2 (product = 36)
8 4 1
8 3 2
7 5 1
7 4 2
7 3 3
6 6 1 (product = 36)
6 5 2
6 4 3
In both cases, the two that remain are 9 2 2 and 6 6 1. The final bit
of info (oldest child) indicates that there is only one child with the
highest age. This cancels out the 6 6 1 combination, leaving the
children with ages of 9, 2, and 2.
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2, 6, 6 years old
Presumably, 'youngest' means a single person. In some places, twins are
ranked: Esau and Jacob.