Aerate a 1 acre pond
Eileen M. Baitsholts
where to buy one or is it necessary to make it from parts. Where could
you find construction plans ?
Eileen M. Baitsholts
this group and asked a question on the net. I am impressed.
Do you think a submersible sunk pump attached to the PVC would create
enough water pressure ? My pond is about 100 X 200 yards in size.
foxeye wrote:
>
> I presume your interested in using an electric pump for the power.
> Lots of pumps are available, and they need not be specifically made
> for fountain use. Just be sure to get one that can pump a decent head
> height (distance the pump can actually push the water up a pipe. My
> ponds have PVC pipe installed in the centers or where desired, and
> many spray patterns can be developed with combinations of PVC pipe and
> fittings, and sprinkler heads.just let your imagination run wild.
> Reducing large to small will increase height the water goes up, and
> the oscillating sprinkler heads do a nice job as well. I have a 4 x 4
> drove down where I want the fountain head to be, and mount the PVC
> pipe to it, and then feed this verticle pipe along the bottom of the
> pond with more pvc pipe, to the shore, where I install a quick
> disconnnect fitting. I use a gas powered pump to hook up to this
> fitting. An electric pump can be substituted. Since I have numerous
> ponds, I just hook up a gas powered pump when and where needed, on the
> shoreline. I just drop a line into the water for the suction line with
> a debris / trash guard on the end. Northern Hydraulics has a good line
> of electric and gas powered pumps, as does W W Grainger. Lots cheaper
> than buying from a pond supplier.....
>
> Basicall its just a simple matter of using some PVC pipe and
> experimenting to get the desired effect and spray pattern. Most
> expensive part is the pump...PVC pipe is cheap and easy to work with.
> foxeye
Mike Lazzari
having a fountain with the air as added bonus then it is more efficient to
pump air directly into the water with a compressor. You get way more air in
there with a much smaller pump. Ľhp or less would do fine running a few
hours a day.
If you like the idea of a fountain, go for it :·)
Mike
foxeye
Lots of pumps are available, and they need not be specifically made
for fountain use. Just be sure to get one that can pump a decent head
height (distance the pump can actually push the water up a pipe. My
ponds have PVC pipe installed in the centers or where desired, and
many spray patterns can be developed with combinations of PVC pipe and
fittings, and sprinkler heads.just let your imagination run wild.
Reducing large to small will increase height the water goes up, and
the oscillating sprinkler heads do a nice job as well. I have a 4 x 4
drove down where I want the fountain head to be, and mount the PVC
pipe to it, and then feed this verticle pipe along the bottom of the
pond with more pvc pipe, to the shore, where I install a quick
disconnnect fitting. I use a gas powered pump to hook up to this
fitting. An electric pump can be substituted. Since I have numerous
ponds, I just hook up a gas powered pump when and where needed, on the
shoreline. I just drop a line into the water for the suction line with
a debris / trash guard on the end. Northern Hydraulics has a good line
of electric and gas powered pumps, as does W W Grainger. Lots cheaper
than buying from a pond supplier.....
Basicall its just a simple matter of using some PVC pipe and
experimenting to get the desired effect and spray pattern. Most
expensive part is the pump...PVC pipe is cheap and easy to work with.
foxeye
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:16:42 -0400, "Eileen M. Baitsholts"
foxeye
really a pump made for pumping water to create a fountain type
dispaly. It lacks in volume as it does in pressure. It will shoot the
water in the air however, but these are on the minimal size needed to
do a job effectively, and they are not designed to work against much
other than a little bit of head pressure. Your gonna need a pump that
can create both volume and pressure to create a fountain effectively..
If your gonna do a fountain why not make it serve for display as well
as function for aereation. Personally I do not think I would go the
sump pump route.
foxeye
>Thanks for the ideas and quick response. This is the first time I used
>this group and asked a question on the net. I am impressed.
>
>Do you think a submersible sunk pump attached to the PVC would create
>enough water pressure ? My pond is about 100 X 200 yards in size.
>
>foxeye wrote:
>>
Rod Farlee
>know where to buy one or is it necessary to make it from parts.
Aquatic Eco-Systems has a variety of pond or lake fountains (and
other aeration devices) which are economical to purchase and
operate.
http://www.aquatic-eco.com/index2.html
- Rod
mak...@pop.flash.net
to chew up fish! I nixed that one.
Lynn
> > >I would like to aerate a large pond with a fountain. Does anyone know
brett rowley
"Eileen M. Baitsholts" <eba...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>I would like to aerate a large pond with a fountain. Does anyone know
>where to buy one or is it necessary to make it from parts. Where could
>you find construction plans ?
If aeration is your primary goal, the device by which all others are measured against is the
"paddlewheel aerator". When other devices are tested, the paddlewheel is assumed to be 100%
effecient and all other devices will be less than that.
For 1 acre, without a completely full load (8000 pounds of fish), a 1/2 or 1 hp aerator is
plenty.
If the aeration device is primarily for aesthetics, either a fountain device as described by
foxeye (I've seen many such and some are quite impressive) or a commercially available one from
someplace like Aquatic Eco-Systems would do fine.
Fountains are not very effecient aeration devices, rating around 25% to 40% as compared to a
paddlewheel aerator. However, paddlewheels are not very pretty to look at, kind of like being
by the side of a sewage lagoon or fish hatchery pond. For most lightly loaded backyard or farm
ponds, fountains give penty of aeration as well as aesthetic appearance. For ponds where fish
are seriously being grown, paddlewheels are far superior. Higher "oxygen transfer rates" and
more oxygen transferred per horsepower.
Brett
Cindy McCord
I will be more than happy to give you some info, pics, and pricing for a
fountain and lighting (if you like) for your larger pond.
Cindy McCord
Cindy McCord
> sump pump route.
>
then by so-called "experts", typically landscape/lawncare guys who
should keep their energies focused on mulch and pavers! <G> The sump
pumps are not designed to operate continuously.
In my opinion, often times you can save money by substituting items into
your pond. For every "rule" written in the pond books out there, there
will be ponders who have found exceptions to the rules and are doing
just fine.
In general though, save yourself time and future expense and headache -
buy the best pumps, liners, filters, etc. that your budget allows. You
will not regret it.
Cindy McCord
brett rowley
Cindy McCord <cmc...@one.net> wrote:
Just a note. I gave up on "sump pumps" for most anything years ago. When depending on a pump
for a job (say irrigating my fish holding facility), if a submerged type pump, I use a "solids
handling sewer pump". Mostly, I use Goulds industrial pumps on my farm. They cost a lot in
initial expense but more than make up for the cost in performance (water pumped for electricity
burned) and life expectancy (I've got some still running after ten years).
Brett
Cindy McCord
On a similar note, best investment I have made to date since beginning
my company in 1996 was a big "trash pump" - fitted with 1 1/4" discharge
hose, it makes draining a pond for service or cleaning a snap! Of
course, we take care to make sure fish and frogs don't end up in the
pump!
Cindy McCord
brett rowley
Cindy McCord <cmc...@one.net> wrote:
Good choice.
Big??? Maybe our 6 inch trash pump is big (1200 gpm or 72,000 gph). Or maybe the 18 inch axial
flow pump on the bayou (5000 gpm or 300,000 gph).
Both of those pumps will pump fish up to 12 inches long, even bigger, without killing them.
Brett
jan jordan
>>my company in 1996 was a big "trash pump" - fitted with 1 1/4" discharge
>>hose, it makes draining a pond for service or cleaning a snap! Of
>>course, we take care to make sure fish and frogs don't end up in the
>>pump!>> >>Cindy McCord
If one is looking for a "trash pump" where and what brands should one be
looking for? I'm looking for something in the range for 1,000 gph, do they
make them that size? I gather muck in a filter won't clog them up? ~ jan
brett rowley
JJs...@ibm.net (jan jordan) wrote:
That would be a pretty small trash pump. They might make them that small. I've two trash
pumps, one is a 3" and the other is a 6". Both are Gorman Rupp pumps powered by Duetz "Air
Diesel" engines. I think the 3" pumps about 24,000 gph and the 6" about 72,000 gph. They call
them a "trash pump" not only because they can pump solids about the size of a golf ball, but
also because you can remove the case from the volute fairly easily and unstop it if it gets junk
in it.
I also use pumps called "solids handling" pumps. I've two of them, both 1.5 inch electric sump
pumps normally used to pump sewage. They can pump solids up to about 1 1/4" dia. Both my
sewage pumps are "Goulds" pumps. Both pump about 5400 gph. They can pump water with muck,
weeds, sticks, fish, etc. with no problem.
Brett
foxeye
trash pumps as well. which are suited best for occassional users.
They come in any size you have the $$$ to pay for. The above pumps are
available with Briggs & Stratton or HOnda or Robin engines. Online
pics and prices at reasonable rates at:
http://jerrybleach.com/pacer.htm for pumps of the Pacer brand, or
http://jerrybleach.com and select pumps and go from there for Homelite
and Leach (basicallly a cross between a Homelite and Pacer) brands.
Trash pumps are exactly that. Mud, and debris don't interfere with
their pumping actions, and typically most even the small ones will
pump 1" objects with ease. There are two types. A bellows //
diaphragm type which can pump mud, etc and centrifugal / volute. Both
are good, with the bellows or diaphragm being able to pump larger
solids on average.
Take it for what its worth.
foxeye
Cindy McCord
I'm laughing as I type this but, believe it or not, my latest trash pump
was purchased at Home Depot!! <G> With fittings, you can attach a 1
1/4" or 1 1/2" discharge hose. Prior to that, we'd use a 1/3-1/4 HP
sump pump for draining ponds, but the muck would clog the intake too
often.
You can also check out www.farmtek.com - they will quickly send you
their catalog and it's packed full of fun stuff! These pumps are called
"solids handling", "sump/effluent" pumps and the catalog will describe
motor size, discharge size, and how big the solids they'll handle. Just
an example -
cast iron pump, 4/10 HP, handles up to 2" solids $224.00
economical effluent pumps, 1/3 HP $139., 4/10 HP $149.00
Hope that helps!
Cindy