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Kenneth J McNeil

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Dec 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/9/95
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Dale Thompson <d...@wwa.com> writes:

>Hi,

>My father is thinking about introducing zebra mussels into his
>backyard pond. He lives in Norther Ohio and can get them from Lake
>Erie now. Has anyone had any experience here?

Have your dad call the fish and game people and tell them his idea. I'm
sure they would love to come over and see his pond and give him a few
presents.
In Minnesota, I would suspect that transporting zebra mussels is illegal
and attempting to culture them could result in some hefty fines from the
Fish and Game Department.

Tell your father the idea isn't one of his best and that he should think
about what could happen if the mussels get from his pond to a nearby lake
or stream and someone comes up with the idea that he was the source of
the introduction.

In the pond the mussels may do just what they are so good at in the Great
Lakes, growing on everything in sight: filter inlets, filter outlets,
plants, and rocks.

Ken

Dale Thompson

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Dec 9, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/9/95
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Hi,

My father is thinking about introducing zebra mussels into his
backyard pond. He lives in Norther Ohio and can get them from Lake
Erie now. Has anyone had any experience here?

Thanks in Advance.

Dale Thompson
d...@wwa.com

Dale Thompson

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Dec 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/10/95
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Thanks Ken,

I had acutally sent him the FAQ from UMN and told him I wouldnt do it.
Legalities aside, I was curious if they were introduced into a
2000gal system what whould happen.

Dale

sper...@is.net

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Dec 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/12/95
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Zebra mussles are federally restricted.


Robert Evans

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Dec 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/12/95
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Is this a joke? I put a question up a couple of weeks ago about the wisdom of
introducing exotics into an uncontrolled environment like an outdoor pond - there
was no comment.

Anyone want to reopen the topic?

--
Robert R Evans
Needham, MA
Eva...@ICD.Teradyne.com

Peter Curran

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Dec 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/16/95
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On Sat, 09 Dec 1995 08:12:16 -0800 in article <30C9B5...@wwa.com>
Dale Thompson <d...@wwa.com> (Dale Thompson) wrote:

>My father is thinking about introducing zebra mussels into his
>backyard pond. He lives in Norther Ohio and can get them from Lake
>Erie now. Has anyone had any experience here?

I know you have received all sorts of advice advising against this, but I have
another question. WHY would anyone want to do this??? This is at least the
third time that someone has asked this question in this group recently, and I
cannot for the life of me understand why.

Zebra mussels are tiny molluscs with, to my mind, no redeeming features as
cultivated critters. Almost they're only attribute is the ability to clean up
water - almost to the point of sterility. They would create all sorts of
problems for any plumbing in the pond, other life forms, etc.

Other people have addressed the legal/ethically aspects of dealing with these
creatures, but I would like to understand the aesthetic issues - all other
considerations aside, why in the world would anyone want these things in their
pond?

My best guess is that they have found some other, more interesting, type of
mollusc, and have attached the name "zebra mussel" to it by mistake. If so,
then the other answers that have been posted aren't necessarily correct - the
molluscs that have been found may be appropriate for a pond.

--
Peter Curran pcu...@inforamp.net


Kenneth J McNeil

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Dec 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/17/95
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pcu...@inforamp.net (Peter Curran) writes:

>On Sat, 09 Dec 1995 08:12:16 -0800 in article <30C9B5...@wwa.com>
> Dale Thompson <d...@wwa.com> (Dale Thompson) wrote:

>>My father is thinking about introducing zebra mussels into his
>>backyard pond. He lives in Norther Ohio and can get them from Lake
>>Erie now. Has anyone had any experience here?

>My best guess is that they have found some other, more interesting, type of


>mollusc, and have attached the name "zebra mussel" to it by mistake. If so,
>then the other answers that have been posted aren't necessarily correct - the
>molluscs that have been found may be appropriate for a pond.

So, are you suggesting that his father should go to Lake Erie and collect
some of these other kinds of mussels? Any chance of possibly bringing
home some type of undesireable mollusc?

Your post seems to give some (not much) support to the idea that perhaps
his father could find some type of mollusc in Lake Erie that would be
beneficial for his pond. Perhaps there is. Perhaps zebra mussels would do
a great job keeping the pond clean (as well as causing all kinds of
problems). Is there an unacceptable risk involved in attempting collection
of molluscs from Lake Erie? I would expect so.

Want to try some freshwater mussels in your pond? Call up Delaware
Aquatics and order some.

Ken

JamieSheff

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Dec 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/17/95
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I've read these types of postings before, and am 90% convinced that they
are put up by people solely for the purpose of getting a rise out of the
group...ignore them and the posters will take their toys and go home.

Peter Curran

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Dec 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/18/95
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On 17 Dec 1995 11:07:26 -0600 in article <mcnei002....@maroon.tc.umn.edu>

>pcu...@inforamp.net (Peter Curran) writes:

I think my post made it clear that I was asking only about the aesthic reasons
for doing this. I have noted in previous responses to similar questions that
collecting species in the wild is a bad idea, for quite a variety of reasons.

--
Peter Curran pcu...@inforamp.net


John Calderia

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Dec 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM12/29/95
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>On Sat, 09 Dec 1995 08:12:16 -0800 in article <30C9B5...@wwa.com>
> Dale Thompson <d...@wwa.com> (Dale Thompson) wrote:
>
>>My father is thinking about introducing zebra mussels into his
>>backyard pond. He lives in Norther Ohio and can get them from Lake
>>Erie now. Has anyone had any experience here?
>

There has been speculation in prior replies on the problems that
introducing zebra mussels into a backyard pond might cause, but nobody
really has the facts on this. Legal issues aside, it would be quite
interesting to learns the facts on how they do in a pond.

This experiment is probably best undertaken where there is absolutely no
threat of the mussel spreading to local waters. My guess is that food
for the mussels will be the limiting factor in their growth and
reproduction. I'd be interested in hearing the facts if and when these
mussels are ever introduced to a backyard pond.

-John in Dallas


sper...@nps.is.net

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While I would not use Zebra mussles, other freshwater musslels can be useful as
a filter and even seeded to grow pearls. They may be placed in a net bag or
soil filled bucket and suspended in the pond.


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