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RACCOONS--Two ways to effectively kill them

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Jake Sneed

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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I also have a raccoon problem here in California, as I live very close
to a major river. Those furry bastards have cleaned out my pond
three times now.

At present I have poison around the pond and I keep a loaded .22 rifle
near the back door. I've shot two of them and I've noticed the
poison has been disappearing as well. No more problems.

Jake


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Bahnee

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Mar 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/3/99
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I can understand your use of Rambo tactics on those raccoons. Although
they're cute, they can really wipe out a pond. It's too bad when things get
so bad that one has to resort to killing them. Perhaps a fido fence will
discourage any newcomers. Is there any chance that your poison could get
into the pond. . .or kill neighborhood pets or friendly wildlife, like
birds?

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V LAURELS

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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if the edges of your pond were straight down,where the coons couldn't wade in,
and not sloped, u would have no problem.
ron, in n.j.

Randy in Aloha

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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While I "may" agree with the .22, the use of poison makes me shudder to
think of the accidents that could happen. Dogs, cats, fish, KIDS....
Suggest an electric fence. Non lethel and it works.
Randy in Aloha
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GEWindow

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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SEE THE BIG PICTURE
raccoons are territorial.
kill the "local" raccoon family and another will move in and take over.
rather than continuing to kill a parade of hungry animals,
force the local raccoon family away from your pond and they will keep all
others away
there are many ways to do this without killing the critters. email
me or post if you want to be enlightened.
french door

GardenMaid

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Mar 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/4/99
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My DH pointed out that the racoons (and all wild critters) prefer easy to get
food. We keep a pile of cracked corn out back and as long as it's there,
that's where the critters eat. I told him many of the ponders here have small
yards and he said, "Then tell them to throw a bunch of corn over the fence into
the neighbor's yard." LOL!
Toni in Michigan

Kyla M.

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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Poison is also a rather ugly way to kill something, slow and painful. Fido
fences and deterrents that startle them seem effective for most people.
Also, depending on where you live putting out poison for animals can be
illegal.

Kyla

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Kyla M.

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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Farms around here use that same idea with their drip lines. Ground
squirrels and coyotes will check through the lines to get water. But if
they bury a small bucket at the ends of the rows and stick an end of drip
line in it, the animals will go for the easy water.

Kyla

Sue

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Mar 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/5/99
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Do NOT poisen anything or God wil getcha!

I was poisened as a child, my stepmother was ruthless and
cruel. My stomache aches were so horrible I wanted to die. I
was in the second grade. My father became very ill after
drinking his coffee at work, so he discontinued that, and
then all I remember was being shuffled off to my
grandmother's house.

It is awful, you ought to be ashamed of yourself that you
are not smart enough to build a pond with vertical sides,
straight down 3 feet. I live by a pretty good sized river,
we have a lot of racoons, they do not bother my pond.

It is awful horrible beyond belief to be poisened.

My stepmother migrated to Seattle where she poisened to
death her next husband, made all of the True Detective rags,
and the writers of those articles were so accurate. It was
all true, what she did.

She died in prision, convicted of first degree murder,
after the exhumation proved arsonic poisen had killed the
man.

Do NOT poisen, you are a very cruel person.

Sue Hanenkrat
Tillamook
OR

Gazeball

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: RACCOONS--Two ways to effectively kill them
>From: "Randy in Aloha"

I am just sick to my stomach about this post. I normally don't say to much but
to posion an animal is just awful. I have racoons and a ponds but I keep them
happy with birdseed and corn. Once in a while they try to wash their food in
the pond but I have the sides built up and they use my low birdbath for water.

I am sorry if they ruined your pond but what will be killed next the neighbors
dog!!!!!

>the use of poison makes me shudder to
>think of the accidents that could happen. Dogs, cats, fish, KIDS....
>Suggest an electric fence. Non lethel and it works.

Randy I like your idea of the electric fence.

Sandy
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GardenMaid

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Mar 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/6/99
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In article <36E05322...@oregoncoast.com>, Sue
<shane...@oregoncoast.com> writes:

>She died in prision, convicted of first degree murder,
>after the exhumation proved arsonic poisen had killed the
>man.

Good for her! What a dreadful story! Glad your family saved you from that
witch - lots of kids don't have anywhere to turn! Ever read "A Child Called
It"?
Toni in Michigan

Rod Farlee

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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In our area (suburban), the county animal control will deliver free
traps, and come pick them up. These are baited cage traps. Might
check your local county or state animal control to see if they do, too.

Raccoons can carry rabies, and will attack if cornered or trapped. It's
best to trap them out in any area where small children or dogs might
roam.

Like deer, they are prone to overpopulating any area where they
lack predators. They then start raiding garbage cans, ponds, etc.
They can become completely fearless of humans.

For all these reasons, if you have raccoon problems, your local animal
control are probably equipped to help you deal with them, safely and
humanely.

Steve

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Mar 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/7/99
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Also ask them what they do with the animals. We had a Bobcat problem and
the animal control people brought us a live trap and said to call when we
caught one, they would come to pick it up. We asked what they did with them
and were told that they would either take it a few miles down the road and
release it or take it to a person that used them to train dogs to hunt them.
We ended up disposing of them ourselves. As far as wild animals go if you
don't want them to return they would have to be released far enough
way( outside their range) and close to another food source that they
wouldn't return to you. I know of a raccoon that showed up on an Air Force
Base and was being fed by some people, someone decided that it wasn't the
safest or sanitary thing ( biting, disease). So they trapped it took it 20
miles or so out in the country and released it, a couple of days later the
same coon was back.

Steve


jenny

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Mar 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/8/99
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There is a natural food chain at work here. If you value your pond
and its contents, then you must do what you have to do to keep your
fish alive. Although I think raccoons are cute, they are undoubtedly
very devastating to a pond, and in most people's view the KOI are far
more valuable than the raccoon.

Poison, gun, whatever does the job is what is needed.

Jenny

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Gazeball

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Mar 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/9/99
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><HTML><PRE>Subject: Re: RACCOONS--Two ways to effectively kill them
>From: je...@aol.com (jenny)
>Date: Mon, Mar 8, 1999 15:30 EST

Hi Jenny, I do believe in protecting my pond but I also believe in protecting
all wildlife. I am sure the posion didn't have a note attached to it saying
for raccoons Only!!!!!!!

>There is a natural food chain at work here. If you value your pond
>and its contents, then you must do what you have to do to keep your
>fish alive.

I just hope the bullet in the gun doesn't put a hole in the liner of the pond
and the neighbors dog doesn't eat the posion.

>Poison, gun, whatever does the job is what is needed.



Sandy
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RVrtis

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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I too had trouble with racoons in California -- all the new house building was
forcing them to look for easier food. I would wake up in the middle of the
night and chase away the racoons, but soon found myself prisoner to this
vigilent stand over my pond. Rather than ruin my sleep I finally decided to
build my pond the "right" way 3-4 feet deep with straight vertical edges, no
more racoon problem for over a year. I occasionally see racoon prints near the
edge but have not lost a Koi. My biggest concern was the hawks... had a couple
of claw marks on my fish (but I put in shelves for the koi to hide under).
The only problem I had was a racoon who in his exhuberance (or frustration)
pushed one of the ornemental rocks into the pond and the edge cut a hole in the
liner causing loss of water.

Ray

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